Will the LGBT Community Recognize the Real Enemy?

It wasn’t a Christian baker who killed 50 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando this weekend. It wasn’t a conservative Republican. It wasn’t a county clerk from Kentucky.

It was a Muslim.

And yet, where are the LGBT activists this week? Are they protesting outside mosques across the country? Are they organizing petitions to boycott Islamic events? No, they’re out there trying to link Saturday night’s tragedy to transgender laws and opponents of gay marriage and that oh-so-nebulous term they call “hate speech.”

Why?

Because these groups are just subsidiaries of liberalism when you get right down to it. One group might call themselves “pro-choice,” one group might call themselves “feminists,” and one group might call themselves “Black Lives Matter,” but they’re all just pieces of the same whole. They all have their little goals, but they are all working towards the same ultimate goal: the gradual and total extermination of American conservatism.

Rest assured, if it had been a white Christian man who walked into Pulse with an AR-15, that man would become the new symbol of evil for the LGBT movement, replacing Kim Davis. Because that would fit into the overarching goal. But it wasn’t, so it doesn’t. And that’s why you’re not going to see LGBT activist leaders say one word about the virulent strain of violent homophobia that thrives in the Muslim community. They’ll stick to the more useful strategy of pretending like Christian bakers are the ultimate in American evil, just like feminists will continue to ignore the way women are treated in Islamic countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia.

It can be frustrating to see so many people miss the obvious truth, so if you ever find yourself pounding your head against the wall, just remember: They aren’t as delusional as they seem. They know. They aren’t blind. It’s just that what they say…well, it isn’t always exactly what they actually believe. They have an agenda and they have an enemy, and not even the worst shooting in American history is going to knock them off their gameplan.

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  1. StupidConservativeValues

    Conservatives are losers!

    • It appears that the lgbt community are the losers… 102 killed or wounded by a registered democrat who is also a muslim…
      Bet money he voted for obama…
      Now the dems are putting up an unscalable wall, with armed guards inside, to protect their convention from democrats and muslims…
      pretty funny, EH?

      • and you will be required to show a government issued form of picture ID to get in, unlike idiots like stupidcuntservativevulva’s heroes demanding that illegal aliens and convicted felons be allowed to vote along side the parasites that are voting the welfare ticket….either berni or the hore…it matters not to the clowns that hate America…

      • Funny, but only Putin and ISIS is laughing!

    • Your a liberal disease on the back of hard working American people that want to be remain FREE.

    • Hey! The tax and spend blamer is back! LibTURD values……..Blame Bush, tax the rich, exploit the minority, hand outs for everyone, regardless of eligibility, rant, rave, whine, “safe space”………

    • Conservatives are faced with feeding libTURDS, clothing libTURDS and satisfying their women. The swishy little eunuch cupcakes are helpless.

  2. StupidConservativeValues

    I mean real LOSERS!

  3. StupidConservativeValues

    Got cha!

    • Islamic training bras?

    • LibTURDS sit down to pee, the smarmy, whining little cup cakes!

    • This little girl is the future of a free USA, she’ll protect the run & hide Libturds from all enemies domestic or foreign, she’ll tell the libturds when it’s safe for them to come out of their caves & start anew the destruction of the free USA. If the libturds don’t murder her before then or jail her in Obamas’ FEMA camps.

  4. No, they won’t since they have so many D I C K S in their mouth and A S S

  5. MuslimLuvChrist

    they don’t care that muslims throw gays off rooftops,

    they just consider this a “hate” crime and they want hitlery to take your guns,

    and they think Trump is a homophobe

    • You are wrong. Many are thinking that Trump was right all along and that he is not the racist the Democraps paint him to be. They are looking at the second amendment and about defending themselves against this terrorism. They see this as more than just a hate crime and see islam as an enemy of the LGBT community. OH, another thing, they are seriously changing their from Killary to Trump.

  6. They think that after they help destroy the white America the Muslims will accept them as “brothers” because they helped destroy the hated America. They are do ignorant that they do not understand that since they are not of their tribe they are the enemy and the Islamic laws says Muslims MUST KILL gays, otherwise the Muslims that do not do that will be killed by other Muslims. Period End of statement. What part of ” if you are GAY you will be killed” do you not understand? No friends, they are not just talking, one of them will do what they say.

      • Don’t you ever get tired of spamming other web sites? You are a troll.

      • Nothing new about this. Operating a call-girl business is and always has been profitable.

      • BT that is one thing we will agree on.. Best thing to do is Send an email to the company that she is Supposely working for and report her Spamming. I knock three “Flower delivery” Spammers off they domain names by reporting them to the domain company they were using.

      • Is that what on line hooking makes there days?

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      Nah, the liberals have tossed them under the bus already! In the common liberal mindset it seems that Muslim rights of religious beliefs trumps the lives of those in the LGBT community. Been in a series of crazy arguments already where the liberals feel this is “just another murder,” and that the “hysterical right,” is trying to make it about Islamic radicals when it is not. Then of course they go on about how Christians kill hundreds of Americans everyday and no one says anything. The crisscrossed backwards logic is stumbling over itself. The lines of the indoctrination are causing mental shorting out and they are speaking like barbaric fools. Which proves that they just regurgitate whatever Hillary preaches and have no self-actuated thought.

      • Leviticus 20:13: “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          While a crowd was questioning Jesus on marriage and on sexual immorality – this lesson was spoken.

          Matthew 19:12 (Jesus speaking) For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.

          Eunuchs from birth – a term meaning effeminate men, gays/asexual types, who cannot reproduce as a castrated man because of their sexuality. Eunuchs made by men – those castrated. Eunuchs for the sake of heaven – those who chose to remain virgins.

          Matthew 22:36-40 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

          The old way is gone, lets make way for the new!

        • So, you’re at it again with your vile, unwanted comments.
          Guess you must be jumping for joy, that those loving human beings were so brutally murdered.
          Probably wish you could have been there to help him out.
          Sorry excuse for humanity you are.
          And I DON’T care that you don’t have respect for those that disagree with you. So don’t bother with your snotty comebacks.

          • BOOM! This whore never gets tired of being pimp slapped.

          • Really?
            I’m guessing that you would have gladly handed him more clips for his gun had you been there to help Omar Mateen out.

          • I have no idea where you are getting that from. I was criticizing one of the regular vile trolls who has no compassion for those who were killed.
            Help that miscreant out? YES… Out of his miserable existence if I was able to get the chance.

        • Slightly old testament.

    • The Holy Bible says the same thing.

      Leviticus 20:2 Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.

      • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

        Everything you quoted is old testament, and therefore old covenant, ergo, no application to modern Christians.

        If you accept Christ you are under the new covenant. This once applied to the Hebrews in the days of Moses and Aaron under the Levitical priesthood. Jesus abolished the Levitical Order and the need for Temple in His ministry and through the gift of the Spirit.

        Nice try, and you honestly quoted scriptures better than many ministers I once worked with, but small application fail. Wrong religious creed. The Jews today don’t even follow these rules in an absolute manner. Many don’t even believe that they are truly inspired words of God in a 100% nature. They feel that most of it is just stories designed to help people gain direction in life.

        Don’t get me wrong, there are radicals in all walks of faith. However, today, most people are far more educated than people have more-or-less ever been (versus ancient history anyway, a little failing in these last few decades but… all-in-all) and we know the Sun doesn’t revolve around the Earth and that species do in fact evolve, there is proof! So, those clinging so tightly to these teachings in a literal sense are becoming fewer and further between. Most Christians today are typically Evangelical or Charismatic Protestant Calvinists. The Arminianist movement is next to dead and typically found in fringe Baptist Churches and other more traditional, old fashioned churches.

        I know many Americans aren’t the most intelligent, but you insult even yourself suggesting such insane ideas sometimes. I know you are better than that! I have seen you deliver prolific messages on some topics here and there! I myself bared witness!

        Which makes me wonder why you do it. I know you are smarter than some of what you say. Is it just trolling to see how some nutballs will react? Or do you just like inciting me talk ad nauseum? LOL!

        • AK is here to make a buck as some others also and here is what needs to apply to them; “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, say’s the Lord” Take It for what It’s worth as so are hasty In what they spew!

      • Blather, prattle, spew and slobber!!

    • Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    • the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, It says to kill homosexuals (Lev 20:13). In addition, Christians should be killing adulterers (Lev 20:10)(Deut 22:22), kidnappers (Ex 21:16)(Deut 24:7), mediums (Lev 20:27), idolaters (Ex 22:20)(Deut 13:6-10), disobedient children (Deut 21:18-21)(Ex 21:15,17

      • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

        The disobedient children one I use when I get one of those Christians that claim that they do not sin and follow every letter of the law of Moses. LOL! Most never read the 616 commandments.

      • Blather, prattle, spew and slobber!

  7. You people don’t realize how radical the LGBT movement is?, they won’t stop until their twisted views are taught in school to our young children. For instance they want children to be taught and chose there sexual identity by third grade. There real goal is to destroy Christianity as it is written now and gay marriage was the first step. I don’t condone the terrorist act in Florida but the LGBT movement is a moral terrorist of Humanity.

    • This world is becoming real sick and has been for a long time.

      • Agree with you completely Dolores anytime A con man and bigot is considered a Party Nominee for President then it really is sick.

        • Maybe so. But, what does that say for the Hillary acolytes serving a megalomaniacal master; a disease for which there is no antidote.

          • BOOM! Nuf said!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Its a disease that festers itself.

          • only Megalomaniac I see has a name that Starts with a T and Rhymes with DUMP.

          • Bill Clinton’s own economic adviser didn’t support Hitlery during Obama’s first run for president saying that the service economy the Clinton’s and he started or pushed for wasn’t working only for the top 20%. He also stated corporate America got greedy. She wouldn’t change a thing. She is a crook rotten to the core only a brainless imbecile would vote for her.

          • Well tell you what why don’t you go ahead and start practicing now so maybe it won’t be so hard for you later on.. Madam President. President Clinton. just say it over and over. Because based on the non party affiliated polls you have a snow balls chance in hell of it being President Trump. Because “president Trump” scares the hell out of a majority of the population and its because of the Disaster he would be.

          • Seems to me as you worship Satan ! I’M just here to chew bubblegum and kick his *** !

          • No, Rick does not worship me, but I do have supporters who shall remain unnamed.

          • ‘I’m sure you do there are many out there without a job and brain, they have to earn a living some how !

          • Thank you for proving my point. If someone does not agree with you you default into claiming they are Evil.. Well guess what the True Evil is trying to force other into you twisted little Cults.

          • No one can force anyone to do anything, I’m just trying to help save the only country left that has the chance to allow a safe haven for those who deserve and no not the cults who are allowed to pour in illegally, PERIOD !!!!!!

          • And Exactly WHO gets to decide who “Deserves” it? YOU? YOUR CULT??

          • Trump scares the hell out the majorities b/c they are brain washed , whiners and missing two part’s of their anatomy !!!!

          • You might as well get used to it. You’re going to see that name a lot over the next eight years.

          • why.. is he going to start more Business that will go bankrupt with his name on them. cause unless you have been living under a rock.. (and that might not be so far fetched for Drumpt supporters) then you know ever major poll. Every expert that have has called elections elections in the last 20 years says Trump loses in a landslide. Trump does one thing right. the idea of him with nuclear weapons scares so many more people that say a romney or McCain the he will bring out people that have not voted in years just to vote against them.. So you want to know who says Trump will win..Pretty much the same Groups that said Romney would win.

          • And Romney would have won if not for the back-handed actions of the liberal media (too many CNN watchers) and the number of welfare recipients (sheep) that turned out for the various elections. The man knew business. The airhead in the White House right now doesn’t have a clue. All is well as the national debt approaches twenty trillion dollars. This country is in a sad state of affairs the likes of which I have never witnessed.

          • when pigs can fly.. oh wait I can’t use that one anymore.. Everytime Trump gets on a play a pig is flying

          • that man was a scum bag corporate raider who Broke up companies, Laid off works and Sent jobs overseas. If you don’t realize that when the proof is out there and easy to find you are beyond help.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Which one?

        • I don’t know of any con man and bigot. you must be drinking the left’s Kool Aid.

          • Only one drinking kool aid is you.. Trump has been sued by Suppliers, Partners, employees, and Customer to the tune of over 3000 times for his shady practices. The TRUMP University Scam (Which by the way they have former Trump University employees saying was a scam). He said in the his book that one of his methods to negotiate was to wait till the work was done then trying refuse to pay till he negotiates a lower price.. So CON MAN, Swindler, Deadbeat, Bigot ( based on his Mexican Rapist statements).. Yea that pretty much covers it.

          • Rick Rogers. Have you really researched ALL the things you are saying, or are you just quoting some sleazball on the media?

          • New York times, Time Magazine, Washington post , Wall Street Journal have all had articles on the number of lawsuits he has had to deal with. And His own book says to refuse to pay people and then Negotiated a lower price. He I saw those words come out of his mouth about 6 months ago.

          • those news paper all lie only play the news paper to put under the bird cage
            to crap on

          • thats funny I have been trying to figure out how to get a TV with fox news on it in the bird cage for years.

          • And he lost 38 (or maybe 35) of those lawsuits.

          • Let’s say you’re correct on the number of lawsuits the lost, that is still quite a few and when you have vast legal resources, you can will in court, ask OJ Simpson.

          • There is an over-whelming source of news and credible information on Trump’s miss-deeds, all you have to do is look with an opened-mind.

          • All you have to do is research and find the real truth but that’s not what you’re about. I would just like to know what this new kind of life you and akin are looking for is going to benefit you, Think of It no matter what how long will it benefit you as no one Is exempt from a nomad mind and where did It get all the others before, can you give me a logical answer, gee just maybe you can change my way of thinking !

          • Well Effie,
            “All you have to do is research and find the real truth but that’s not what you’re about”.
            Really? Have you ever lived out side of the United States? Say Israel, Jordan or Morocco? Just how many Jews and Muslims do you personally know? How many have you done business with, worked for, worked with or had work for you?

            There is some ignorance here Effie, but I’m pretty dam sure it’s not on my part.

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          • I DIFFER AS THERE ARE MANY I KNOW OF ALL ETHNIC AREAS, i RESPECT THOSE WHO RESPECT ME AND RESEARCH IS ON GOING CONSTANTLY AND YOU DO NOT DO ENOUGH IN THAT AREA,,,,,,,

          • You cleanly need to get a grip as well as an education beyond the propaganda Effie.
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          • Still light years better than the Marxist Couch Potato or the Cankled Liar!

          • Yeah that’s pretty much what the German’s Said in the 1930’s

          • I want to see you’re proof of all those statements against Trump as at this point they ” the commie’s” cant come up with anything !

          • Don’t worry about that. If anything, he’s summing up Obama for the last seven and a halk years.

          • You have two wrong out of six and the rest rightfully so ! He will get rid of their sorry ***’ ‘s THIS IS OUR AMERICA, NOT THEIRS !!! You aught to be ashamed of you’re self and if you feel that way then why don’t you go and live among them ! Or do you now !!! That explains it all !!!!!!!!!!!

          • Have you ever considered medication Effie? I don’t believe that Tin-Foil hat is serving the purpose that you had hoped for.

            I’m not quite sure who “their” is that you are referring to -could it be the imaginary people who torment you?
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          • OMG.. I dont’ have to prove a thing to you. All you have to do is listen to just about any of his campaign Speechs.. BUY ok.. here goes..parapharsing here for the most part because I don’t have time to do your research.

            Cruel— He said we have to not only go after terrorist but they women and Children. (which by the way is a war crime)

            Racist- Calls Mexicans Rapist and Murders..

            Oppressor- Threatens to Expose Ted Cruz’s wife for some Secret she is suppose to have then then Slanders are. Of course I did not mine that one so much. I love to see Jackels eat their own.

            Vicious and Vindictive: Think about all the names and things he said about Megan Kellye when he did not like the questions at the debate. Always makes me wonder he claims he can deal with Putin and Kim Jung-un but A blonde reporter terrifies him?

            Claims everyone loves him: Even though he has insulted or offended Hispanics,

            Women, African Americans, Muslim Americans… well just about everyone of them he claims loves him.

            Loves other Dictators: on Record praising Putin and Kim Jung-un. his Ex wife (who supports him) said he kept book of Hitler’s speeches by bed …

            They Overreact to criticism: Please tell me your not going to deny this one.

            Popular among Ignorant and Low income..Well lets see.. The KKK came out in support of him. Neo Nazi groups have endorsed him.. Says a lot about you when the scum of the earth thinks your a good man

          • For one thing , yes you should show proof, as you’re words are not viable and so you need the proof for you’re self ! Yes we do have to go after all whom destroy America and our children that murder and use propaganda, ect; !
            Many whom are here illegally and otherwise are rapist and murderer’s their own country’s were glad to release them as well as this regime to use for their purpose as we see in the streets and most debate’s!
            As far as exposing others whom are possible traitors and work or join in groups that are anti- American (Cruz) or others, yes they should be exposed and deported for treason or worse!
            As far as vindictive as what is said against Trump He has every right to retaliate !
            AS far as other dictator’s; I ‘m sure he will have better results than the existing regime !
            When it comes to criticism; how do you fair in that !
            Popular among the ignorant? A lot depends on their politics towards America and alliance,or on standby,, after all it seems those whom have been shipped here by our own regime have no alliance to America or her people, flag, speech Ect:

          • That pretty much sums up Obama for the last seven and a half years.

          • Look, this country is waiting for the last straw and soon to happen, they do not want Trump in for a big reason. Trump is the only one who wants to protect America and you are not going to the right places to get information, or you are in bed with the commies that are running this country now and it’s worse than communism , so if these satanists steal the election again and get away with it you might as well sit back as they all run to their bunkers while the enemy come’s a knocking as they only use people like you to do their dirty work. Think ; weather or not you are planted here and getting payed for it and brainwashed, or have no idea of the fact that “THERE IS NO WHERE TO RUN’ NO WHERE TO HIDE” ALEXJONESSHOW.COM

          • Thank you for showing you don’t need to be regarded as a serous person. Trump has contradicted him self so many times he can’t remember which lie he told 5 minutes ago. After the Orlando Shooting he was claiming the Shooter was born in Afghanistan. Turns out he was born about 3 miles from where Trump was. So if Trump is suggesting we should ban anyone from that area Then can we start with him. As for Alex Jones.. SERIOUSLY??? oh my god.. My side hurts from Laughing.

          • I know what I am, what I stand for and what I believe; and will not stand for anyone whom will continue to take America down as we whom believe in America as was, the only great country until the satanists infiltrated. Knowing the truth of how the other 3rd world country’s cannot over the year’s have never been able to find person’s of some intelligence to lead them to fight their way out of a paper bag thus continuing to their demise. While those Americans whom have not inherited riches went on to suffer the strife to go on and at least create a living existence while those ahead may prosper, so who the hell are you to think you have earned the right to think we should lie down and submit to idiocy !!! There are many in my life whom regard me as more than just a serious person !!!!! As far as Alex Jones, He is one of the few men left to save you’re ***

          • ha ha ha ha. Oh god my side hurts.. Alex Jones?? oh god I can’t breath laughing so much.

          • And he lost 38 of those suits.

          • And he settle most of the others with non disclosure agreements.

          • Ricky baby…..corrupt lawyers only go after deep pockets……
            i.e., the don’t waste time with deadbeats. Like reading your crap! DUH!

          • Angela,
            Time to put the tin foiled hat back on, Trump is clearly a master -marketing genius and should be doing infomercials for people who lack substance.

        • Bernice’s family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check. “I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first
          real job as mayor of Burlington.Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

          • Sorry Barry I am not a Bernie Support any way shape or form. HE lost he needs to move on. BUT He did suggest once that it is the ultimate Arrogance to think that all good ideas come from The United States. To disregard an idea that is working well in other countries is sort of Stupid. Other countries are making it easier for their citizens to have access to higher education. The U.S. on the other hand is Saddling they young people with life long Debt to pay for it. Most Companies want College graduates to fill their open jobs and help them make a profit. I see no reason what so ever that they should not help Train those people that they are going to need in the future. I can’t remember which finance Magazine I read it in but a 1% increase in Corporate income tax would allow very low interest loans for those students that want to pursue those educations. The problem with the “free Market” is for the most part it has short Term Vision not long term. Sort of like a Lumber company that clear cuts a forest but does not bother to Reseed it.

          • I bet he got payed for what you just described !

      • WHEN GOD is removed from people’s lives….SATAN fills the vacuum!!!

      • We Christians must fight for what is morally right to save our country.

    • Some Muslims use young boys as sex slaves, one of our military men hit one of these men for abusing a 13 yr old and they tried to kick him out for not overlooking customs in another country. Many petitions kept this from happening.

      • and yet that seems to be what the Koran is all about.

      • Just one more situation the media mostly kept out of the main news, I guess. I didn’t hear about it.

        • It was on Fox, I got e-mail petitions. It went on for quite awhile before our military decided not to ruin our military guy’s career. I forgot what rank he was but he was in charge of the area they were stationed in and I think it was an Afgan commander that had the kid chained up. I think the name of these children are “girly boys”. Sometimes they dress them as girls. The Islamic customs are barbaric and most will never change.

          • (CNN)Sergeant 1st Class Charles Martland, the Green Beret being separated involuntarily from the U.S. Army for kicking and body slamming an Afghan police commander he describes as a “brutal child rapist,” began telling his side of the story Monday.
            Martland is under a gag order imposed by the Pentagon, but at the request of Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif, he wrote a statement detailing his actions on Sept. 6, 2011, which was obtained by CNN. “Kicking me out of the army is morally wrong and the entire country knows it,” Martland writes. Last week the Army rejected his appeal.

            Martland and former Captain Daniel Quinn were disciplined by the Army after they beat a powerful local police official who they concluded had been raping a small boy. They say they had been encouraged by higher-ups that there was nothing to do about such horrific acts, that these were Afghan problems for the Afghan authorities to work out.
            But the Afghan authorities wouldn’t do anything about it, the two soldiers say.

            Notice that it took a Republican to bring this out into the open. The slime military higher ups suck worse that the taliban maggots! Ocumstain has gotten rid of the patriotic military brass and now only ass kissing vermin remain as evidenced by this story!

          • Absolutely ! We have no army except for the one’s planning to do something, and regime in place are bringing these barbarian’s into all cities around the US to join the new army; where do these people with no brains think they all disappear to, who do they think is funding them ???

          • You are correct, it will never change. That is the reason I would like to not “import” any more muslims to America.

    • “Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation requiring public schools to include the contributions of
      gay and lesbian people in their curriculum, making California the first state to adopt such a requirement.”

    • Don’t you realize most of them just want to be left alone to live their lives with the same rights as anyone else has. And The Right wing Christian extremist are doing a good enough job scaring off young people from Christianity they don’t need to help it along.

      • Who is “them”, gays or muslimes?
        “most of them just want to be left alone to live their lives” is that why the thugs push so hard for institutionalized LGBT agendas? Transgender this, transgender that!

      • They want special rights, they are pushing their way of life and beliefs on the masses ridiculing Christians as they stand with God or as you stated their extremist who is the extremist. And now pushing for legislation to teach our children and calling it rights it’s sick I say leave us alone. In nature its a male and female that breed that’s all that should need to be said.

        • Most of the so Called “christians” do just fine Ridiculing themselves. SO they don’t need any help with that. But please tell me what Special Rights they are demanding.. Just curious.

          • Marriage Defined as a union between a man and a woman, Rights for a man or woman to use restrooms not based on actual sex but their choice of sex, Trying to pass legislation to teach, promote and force their views on the rest of American’s and there young children in grade schools. You mock Christians but fail to realize they are trying to help them as God has instructed them to do for fellow man. The LGBT fails to realize, all war’s fought from the revolutionary war till now by Americans were fought overwhelmingly by Christians trying to bring or retain freedom and liberty for all. Our founding fathers that started the United States changed the world and you should thank god for that?

          • Marriage is Defined by the Laws of the Land not hebrew Fairytales. Only ones I have seen trying to Teach, promote or Force their Views on American Are the so Called Right wing “Christians”. Remember that statement next time you see someone say we “HAVE TO HAVE PRAYER INC THE CLASSROOM”

          • “Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation requiring public schools to include the contributions of gay and lesbian people in their curriculum, making California the first state to adopt such a requirement.”

          • IF a person makes Contributions of importance why shouldn’t he be included in a History class. Ever hear of ALAN TURING. He was pretty much responsible for the breaking of the Enigma code that the Germans used in World War II. If not for that a lot more lives and material might have been lost to the German U-boats. Oh .. and he was Gay. So you going to complain about it if teacher wants to discuss his Contributions in a History or computer Science Class. This idea there is the Master plan “Gay Agenda” is just dumb. Do you think they have a secret handshake or something so they can only talk about it among themselves.

          • Law of the land was the people, 65 to 70 % of Americans say that a marriage is between a man and a woman, same as the dictionary. A few criminal faggots and faggot lovers on our supreme less court over rode the people dumb ass. Its called legislating from the bench. I blame the liberal anti God scum for most of our moral depravity you faggot. Why do you think we have the school shootings by young adults in this country it’s not the guns it’s no morals guiding them, in this country you liberals are so offended by God and Christianity your stripping this country of a moral code and its going to get worse I’ll bank on it. Whether you believe in God or not the ten commandments are an excellent code to live by. But the ten commandments displayed on our court houses or any public building offends you scum and is being removed by you scum liberals because it offends you scum. Let me state what liberals are for radical Gay and transgender rights, abortion. communism, oppression to name a few. Your against freedom of religious beliefs namely Christianity (but not islam) , freedom of speech when someone stands up against them it’s politically incorrect. You people will destroy every American rights liberty or freedom trying to protect ignorance and evil.

          • You all spout the same garbage.. Please tell me how allowing two people that want to commit to a loving relationship with each other is going to “destroy marriage”. You going to claim it cost Kim Davis her 3 marriages. No because it was her not being able to up hold her marriage Vows that killed those. Did it break up Trump’s first 2 marriages.. nope that was TRUMP not being about to up hold his. Its really simple even some with Simple logic should be able to follow. Marriage is a Religious Creation. But it is also a Civil union recognized by the state with benefits attached to it. As long as that is the cause then denying those same benefits to LGBT couples is discrimination. Its no different then discriminating against them because of the color of their skin or what part of the world they were born in. And don’t throw its against god because if you Read ALL of Leviticus and you find that quite a few people are committing “Sins” according to that Book.. Oh.. You don’t by chance have a tattoo on you do you? You should use the same measure I do. Gay marriage does not offend me because I am not gay and am not going to be in one.

          • No I don’t have a tattoo and I’m sure as heck not perfect and God knows that but i would never lead a person in the wrong direction period. The (word) marriage should not be used period. they can use any other word of a similar meaning that’s the problem, civil union who the fuck cares but what they are doing is attacking Christianity dumb ass. And don’t act like their so perfect I seen on confessions in a taxi cab, a gay man talking about a gay bar that multiple men would stick their penis in a hole in the wall and the gay men would randomly suck other mens cocks how sick is that. In Michigan a decade or so ago faggots where caught doing the same type of shit in our rest areas, some of them people were collage professors. The actor Rock Hudson had multiple orgies fests with young men as noted by the FBI. I read on the internet the average gay male has upwards of a 100 different partners a year where as a heterosexual male averages less than five that’s why STD’s run rampant in the gay community and the faggots blamed Reagan for Aid’s how stupid are they. You say their just looking for love yah right.

          • Thanks for clearing that up .. I thought you were just a homophobe. Now I realize I was wrong and your just a plan old bigot..

          • No I’m a realist and they are a cancer in any society. Don’t get me wrong I don’t give a damn what they do but keep it to them selves. But what do they do, they get in our face forcing and promoting there filth that I have a big problem with.

          • Funny I feel exactly the same way everytime I see someone stand up and demand that the Government follow the Law to the Bible as the law of the land. Yea that some Filth I can do without.

          • You’re something new… a “reverse bigot”.

          • You know what I won’t deny it. I am against anyone that wants to use someones Race, Sexual Preference, Country of Origin, Gender, or Religion to define a group of people..I am against anyone that demands the rights defined in the Constitution but is ready to deny those rights to others because they don’t agree with them. I am against anyone that thinks its ok to force they religion down someone else’s Throat and demands our government follow the “rules” of their Religion. So yea.. You can call me a bigot because I admit to those things.. But you know what other rule I follow… “Do on to others has you would have them do on to you.”

          • Looking for love in all the wrong places, as far as I’m concerned.

          • They are a moral cancer on humanity, sadly its going to get worse as people do or say nothing

          • You’re right. Between the the American public and the numbnuts in government.

          • What you are is an empty headed… something. You anount to a sungle fallen leaf in the autumn… bumping along the ground, going anywhere the wind takes you. Welfare much?

          • WE DON’T NEED THIS FILTH SHOVED DOWN OUR CHILDREN’S THROAT !!!!! “LEVITICUS” ” IF MAN LIE’S WITH MAN AS HE DOES WITH THE WOMAN IT IS AN ABOMINATION” THE BLOOD IS ON HIS HANDS” ALSO THE SINS OF THE FATHER WILL FALL UPON THE CHILD !

          • You people sure love to pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to follow.

            Hey Effie you wearing a cotton Blend shirt??

            Leviticus 19:19 uh oh.. you committed one..

            Hey Effie You like Shrimp cocktail?

            Leviticus 11:10
            But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.

            ome other commands in Leviticus 19 are also no longer associated with idolatry: “Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material” (19:19), and “’Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard” (19:27)

          • Excuse me, how is this pertinent to saving America, yes I’m aware of the cloved foot , shelled fish ect;: and was revoked in later versions !

          • Because Genius Your judging other people. Something that I believe was write that YOUR not the one to Judge. That God Judges.

          • How about watching my grand-daughters pee, shower, dress….

          • Hey JUGhead.. I mean Jarhead I have some bad news for you.. Before this was a Made up problem most transgender were taking care of the Bathroom needs in the same room as your grand daughters you did just not realize it. Or do you think trans Gendered is some new thing that has not been around for years.

          • Ricky baby thanks for that info and hope you can kick your perverse sexual addiction soon.

          • Only thing I find perverse is how all of a sudden people seen to think going to the bathroom is a sexual thing. You into golden showers or Scat there Jughead

      • And LGBTQ like ricky baby allow straights to pay for the higher health cost due to their un-healthy, disgusting addiction.

    • Anytime social programs crowd out substantive studies, leftists (Syn. socialist, anarchist, communist; see AGITATOR, LIBERAL, RADICAL, [PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT]; Webster’s College Dictionary, Fourth Edition) celebrate because it eases the process for their political agenda to prevail.

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      True – but, these people didn’t deserve to be mass murdered by some Islamic radical either. BTW – their views are taught in schools, which is one of the reasons my son was pulled from public school. Look up info on NAMBLA school assemblies. Yes, the “North American Man Boy Love Association” – a pedophile/pederast organization presents assemblies “sexually empowering” children between grades K-8 on homosexuality, pederasty, and gender selection. Also, their pamphlets feature a Catholic priest as the evil child rapist and a gay camp counselor as the oppressed hero that saves them – in a 15 page full color activity book! YAY!

      • How progressive!

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          LOL! Yeah, moving things forward… one child at a time. I’m sorry but the nuthouse I am seeing rise here is shaping up worse than der Drittes Reich pre-Holocaust.

          The most horrible things I have heard come from the left on this subject EVER – I heard today. According to many (not all) leftists, we need to drop this “mass shooting” topic and terms about Islamic terrorism and religious radicalism BECAUSE: “Muslim-Americans should be able to freely practice their religion in the US under protection of the US Constitution.” When I asked if this includes shooting gays in a night club I received responses like this on, “Well, how many have the Christians killed through the years? Yeah, you don’t hear anyone whining about that!” So, clearly many lefties have donned their tin-foil hats in a way that is totally reprehensible beyond the description of words.

          I thought we could wrangle in this mess and reunify our country but I don’t know that I want to anymore. I feel it is safe to say you can include my vote for Trump this election. I was leaning Bernie but the media has lied as much about him as Trump and his following brags strength but is truly weak and falling apart in numbers. There is no way in hell I am voting for Hillary!!! I’d sooner happily die a free man.

          • You’re absolutely right in everything that you say. I hate to say it, though, but you’re never going to sway the “sheep” that this country has been filling up with over the last seven and a half years… welfare recipients for the most part.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            It’s just this damned media and all it’s lies. It is so difficult to find the truth anymore. It is insane not to be a skeptic but being skeptical drives you nuts when logic is absent in most debates.

            Speaking of debates – I love this new cushy dumbed down method of political debates we are seeing. Left and Right both have their own forums, with their own chosen hosts to ask prescreened “easy” questions. Then they randomly attack the lesser favorable candidates in each party devaluing their logic in support of trash talk rants! Wonderful. I hope Jerry Springer runs next election – he is certain to win!

          • All true. And this latest Orlando tragedy has turned into a much needed distraction for the electoral college and the powers that be. Anything in the way of TV news isn’t worth turning on anymore. Anyone that is knowledgable needs to go much deeper into the Internet to find anything that actually pertains to the immediate future of our country.

            You have a very solid background and one that isn’t found, at large, anywhere in this country anymore.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            The “sensible” ones are a dying breed Skip – the world is moving towards extremisms. Everyone wants my way or no way with no budge room for compromise. Most Americans have never been outside their hometown region let alone witnessed extremist societies in the world where one side of the political paradigm rules and all others are crushed under heel.

            It would seem that the republic and democracy are dying swiftly and we are trading it for demagoguery and fascism – extreme left or extreme right, but extreme either way. In the end it is ultimately a lose-lose situation for a nation like ours. This election isn’t going to be about what is best for America and her people, but what is best for individual interests. Our selfishness (and sheepishness regarding the media) has seemingly placed in a no win situation.

            Makes me want to rally people together to create a commune in the midwest somewhere. Go off grid like the Mennonites. I know it sounds like survivalist nonsense but I think the nation is choosing a dark path. The conversations here are proof of it – it would seem a great many US citizens are becoming “radical” in the sense that if a conversation steers off course they get all nasty and aggressive. People believe that everyone MUST agree with them all the time (or else). People rant about the things this nation was founded on… COMPROMISE would be one of the most important things. Something that is rarely seen anymore.

            I used to identify with “the Right” strongly but held some “Leftist” ideals. Through time and personal life changes I have adopted a few more leftist inclinations but at the same time – that is what being American is about! Having the choice and freewill to change your position with times. It always seemed that the right was more tolerant and understanding of that, so I have always registered republican… But lately I am torn… The left pretty much falsely accused the right of so much across the last four years, primarily anyway, that is seems the arguments desensitized both sides equally. We have dehumanized one another in an obscure way (it’s no longer uncommon to see death threats and prejudice slanders in public posts). Also, I don’t see the tension mending but worsening through time. I would say, that through experience, it would seem that about 20% of our country (of each side) have gone very extreme right/left. Their ideologies are unbudging and bigoted. Their rationalization of it shines with the purest form of ignorance I have ever seen – because they aren’t stupid people but willfully ignorant. One thing is certain, many people on both sides are rabidly angry.

            Who knows what the future holds, but I have a bad feeling.

          • You said much in return to my contacting you and I appreciate it very much. I think that you are right. There is no longer much to be said for the citzens and, unfortunately non-citizens, of this country. I, too, see a complete disaster, here, on the horizon.

            Throughout my working career as an electronics and digital electronics employee and consultant I did acquaint myself with a great deal of this world. I lived and worked all over the U.S., Canada and even Kuwait, Saudi Arabia along with a few other countries in the middle east. I used to spend much of my “down time” in Frankfurt, Germany. I really enjoyed that part of Germany… after I figured out how things “worked” there. None of that time was ever spent in “American compounds” or the like. Usually in apartments in Khobar, Dammam or wherever I happened to be working at the moment. I had many good friends that were Saudi. I found that a very safe place to be living. Living with them and doing work with my “gang of Saudis” could be challenging at times but, overall, they were good times. I found, at least when I was living there, that Saudis liked Americans. They did have a hard time understanding the government in the U.S., though. They couldn’t quite grasp a country where the complete government would change every four or eight years.

            They had but one day off every week (Friday); I was able to schedule myself as I saw fit; but they were always more than happy to spend that day off driving me from the southeast of their country all the way to their capitol city… just to show it off. I enjoyed my time there very much… even if the summers were like highs of 128 degrees with 89 or 90 percent humidity. All of that I don’t believe that I ever experienced any rain during the time that I was there… most of two years.

            At that time driving in the KSA was taking your life into your own hands. Even the police were wise enough to remain on foot. When leaving Dahran in an ARAMCO car, the first thing to do was to test fire the horn. If it didn’t work it was back to the motor pool for another vehicle that was properly “armed”.

            I came out of the Al Khobar hotel one morning to drive my ARAMCO car back to Dahran only to find out that there was a cinder block under the missing wheel and tire on the opposite side of the car where you couldn’t see it. It resulted in qhite a “crash” upon pulling away from the curb! Khobar being what it was there was little need; more correctly “no” need; to report it to the local police. They didn’t tend to speak any English, anyway.

            Some other places of merit? I spent about a year living in the Skyline Hotel (now The Brock) in Brockville, Ontario, Canada while consulting for GTE, Automatic Electric just outside of Brockville. The people in that town were like none that I was familiar with in the U.S. There were a lot of little hamlets, just across the bridge into upstate NY, that were nice to weekend in and had some of the best live country music around.

            I think that just about the same can be said for Ruidoso, NM. I lived there for a year while I was engineering the replacement of all of the telephone exchanges, and replacing all of the copper cable with buried fiber optics, for the Mescalero Apaches 800 square mile reservation in Mescalero.

            Ruidoso or Brockville are two of the places that I should have retired to… instead of these mountains of northeastern California… where it sometimes snows in July!

            It’s been a long, strange life, most of it spent in one facet of telephony or another and, I guess, all over this small world.

            After my first six years with GTE down in L.A. (the late 60s through the early 70s) I got to the point where I didn’t have to apply for positions anymore. Wherever I was working I would be “found” and offered another project someplace else… even Saudi Arabia. If I accepted the position they had to agree to waiting until I was finished with the current project and had to agree to paying all expenses in connection with the new position, including transportation for passports and all travel involved in relocating. Also they had to spring for acceptable housing wherever it might be that they were.

            My last time “out” was with the Mescalero Apaches for the year 2001. That was for $196,000 plus all expenses. They rented my Jeep (eight hours a day was all that they would pay for my Jeep – no overtime for the Jeep), rented my tools, paid for my place in Ruidoso and sprung for all of my gasoline and food. Not too bad after starting out with GTE in southern California in the late 1960s for $2.12 an hour!

            Christmastime 2001 I decided that it was time to hang it up. Every day, now, I give some thought to relocating to Brockville Ontario. I was out of west Texas the year that I spent up there and I did explore with them the possibility of relocating to Canada at that time (the girls were really something).

            At that time they said that I could move up to Canada, get a job anywhere… a Circle-K or whatnot… for a period of six months (or a year – I don’t remember) in order to start naturalizing as a Canadian. That was clear back in 1977/1978 so their rules about that may have changed.

            I did a stint in the army starting in 1964 as a personnel specialist. The draft was in effect at that time but I beat them to it… I enlisted. At the time draftees had a “US” service number and enlistees had “RA” (regulat army) service numbers. THAT’S one number that will stay with you for life!

          • I thought you’re statement might warrant this little tid bit ; Get ready for all hell to break loose… Obama set to issue gun confiscation decree !! Stating, “If patriotic Americans would simply let us ban their fire arms, then radical Islamic terrorist’s will stop slaughtering innocent Americans.” OMG what i feel like saying ! You see that’s how stupid he knows most of the sheep are ! Same as saying now bend over and you can kiss my *** and they would ! A good reason to ban election, they have to do something as they have come to far with their OWO AGENDA ! Trump is a win-win and they know it now just waiting to giver the sign to the new army while they run to their bunker’s and wait for the finish !!!!!!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            I ran a search and could not find anything on this statement you are claiming Obama made. Can you site a news report or article please?

            Don’t get me wrong, I am not nor have ever been an Obama fan – but people online sometimes say the darnest of things, and by nature, I am a skeptic.

            I realize that Jade Helm was a military crowd control exercise held in American soil and every current enlisted military participant has been screened with the “Would you engage American citizens with lethal force if given the order?” – question… However, that doesn’t necessary mean they are “planning” something nefarious. They could be planning a defensive strategy against enemy infiltration within our nation borders.

            I will believe it if I can see it for myself but your claim seems a bit far fetched at initial ingestion. I would surmise that if the president said something like that every anti-government nut would be frothing at the mouth, but a Google search turned up nothing at all.

          • Come on Sgt: Thou doth protest , It seems you have a higher IQ than that! I’ll throw you a bone;

            Obama Set To Issue Gun-Confiscation Decree

            Patriot Update Alert <alerts@patriotupdat

            'If
            Patriotic Americans Would Simply Let Us Ban Their Firearms, Then
            Radical Islamic Terrorists Will Stop Slaughtering Innocent Americans.'

            Is that not what Barack Obama and his liberal
            cronies are actually saying? If it were not so serious, it would be
            laughable. But if you're wondering why Barack Obama is trying to sell
            the American people on the insane idea that the solution to radical
            Islamic terrorism is to ban firearms for law-abiding Americans… here's
            the back story.

            Frustrated by repeated failures to force Congress to pass gun-control legislation,
            Barack
            Obama's Department of Homeland Security has been signaling for some
            time now that it is willing to bypass Congress and take executive
            actions to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the
            United States.

            Bolstered by the politically motivated narrative
            that Obama is weaving about the Islamic terrorist attack in Orlando,
            Florida, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson has just gone so far as
            to say that
            "gun control is now part and parcel of homeland security" and he added:
            "it's coming," and it's something
            "the American public has to face." Meanwhile, Obama just confirmed his intentions by stating that gun control and terrorism is no longer an
            "either-or" debate.

            As for the dog-and-pony show presently going on
            in Congress, it is nothing more than political cover. The real plan is
            to bully and intimidate Republicans, and sap their will to fight Barack
            Obama's imminent
            Imperial Gun-Control Decree; and
            we're
            not about to let Obama get away it. These elected officials need to
            hear from you right now because if they don't hear from you, they will
            buckle and we can all kiss the 2nd Amendment goodbye.

          • I thought I had posted the info you asked for days ago and I do not see it. I will try again;
            alerts @patriotupdate.com

    • “Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation requiring public schools to include the contributions of
      gay and lesbian people in their curriculum, making California the first state to adopt such a requirement.”

    • Yes, you are correct. But it didn’t use to be that way when I was young. The gays and straights got along and didn’t try to push any agenda on each other. It was live and let live when I came from.

    • “Gov. Jerry Brown has signed
      legislation requiring public schools to include the contributions of
      gay and lesbian people in their curriculum, making California the first
      state to adopt such a requirement.”

    • I agree. I had to spend some time at my local hospital today. In the lobby there used to be two restrooms… one for “men” and one for “ladies”. That is no longer the case. Today they’re for whichever sex gets there first (and maked accordingly).

  8. EnemyoftheState

    The problem is sin. All political dancing around finding an “enemy” and seeking a political solution is a waste of time.
    America is under judgment and needs to repent. Sorry if you don’t like the truth but otherwise it is all sentiment wrapped as patriotism. Righteousness exalts a people (nation) but sin is a reproach to any people.

  9. Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    We live in a world that today GOOD IS EVIL AND THE EVIL IS GOOD. THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT CAN COME AND MAKE PEACE ON THIS EARTH.

  10. I believe there is a group of LGBT in Phoenix, Arizona who are backing TRUMP!!! Maybe some are intelligent enough to get the Muslim Message!!!

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      They better get from behind Hillary. Liberals are already chalking this one up as “just another murder,” “what are the rabid right-wingers so up in arms about,” “why is this being viewed by the right as Islamic terrorism when it is just another shooting,” and “why does the right want to make this about Islam?”

      So yes, if you are gay in the left, your LIFE is worth less than Islam’s right to freely practice THEIR religion – even if that means killing you and your friends. THAT IS THE IDEOLOGY OF THE COMPASSIONATE LEFT CURRENTLY PRESENT! Just like assertions Islamic terrorists are peaceful… just completely misunderstood. (like Charles Manson is)

      What do you expect from the party that birthed the KKK and protects the likes of Neo-Nazis, Communists, La Raza, PETA, and the New Black Panther Party. Killing and razing villages others over aggressive defense your privilege is a VERY leftist practice already. They are savages I tell you – wolves in sheep’s clothing.

      • Mass murder is as American as apple pie.
        Religious freedom is the basis America was founded upon.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Does that make it right?

          Are you suggesting that you believe it is Islam’s Constitutionally protected right to mass murder homosexuals because the Koran/Quran commands it?

          –EDIT–

          Well, I invested 30 minutes to compiling a list of stories for you with links but – it seems that Disqus is being controlled by the liberals today and it failed with an error.

          Believe me, there are literally hundreds of mass killings throughout the EU, Canada, and Australia as well. I just posted roughly a hundred links most occurring withing the last 5 to 10 years (a couple especially gruesome grizzly tales I allowed to go as far back as 2000 like the grenadier in the Ukraine that killed 78 people and a guy that set fire to an entire countryside resulting in hundreds of deaths). They just call them different names so they turn up little on Google unless the New York Times or CNN reports it. They tend to most commonly call them “massacres” and “rampages.”

          I will redo this post (just for you because I love you) but I need to get out on patrol at this precise moment.

          • Thank you, OfcShane. Please do try to repost.

          • The Constitution protects CITIZENS from government excesses, or should, were it not for Demorats and RiNOs. The vast majority of Muslim “immigrants” are not citizens with even the minority retaining loyalty to the Quran, not to the US. Second generation Muslims, because of their religion, garb and habits do not assimilate well and are susceptible to ISIS recruitment. No Muslim should be trusted, lying to promote the faith is permitted.
            Hey, Barry, if you were not so intent on destroying America, you could spend some taxpayer money to establish refugee camps in the ravaged areas of their OWN countries. Rebuilding cities there is cheaper than rooting out Muslim terrorists once they’re here.

          • Therein lies the problem.

            Unfortunately even the enemy is entitled to the protections of the constitution. – I fought and bled to keep that right even for those scumbags, but I am changing my mind.

            TIME FOR A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS>
            1- Only US citizens will be covered by our constitution.
            2- At lest ONE of you parents must have been born here to be a Citizen or you must be naturalized to become a citizen.

          • Pls show us where in the constitution either enemy combatants or foreign terrorists or especially those who have sworn to overthrow the US by force are protected. IF a law (Drmorat or RiNO) has been passed granting these non citizens constitutional protections, please cite your source(s). Until then, no amendment is necessary.
            Home-grown, citizen terrorists should be killed by police in battle; no more taxpayer-paid scumbag lawyer fees to defend those terrorists. Should be a modicum of deterrence in this.

          • Sieg Heil!!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Neither of my parents were born here but I was…

          • I’ve noticed the “Sorry” messages have been popping up more often these days…

            I have noticed a glitch where the post box disappears right before I hit the Post button, and if you can get back to the post, copy the entire thing and place it in a word document.

            It might conserve your work…

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Yeah, I did that but got the screen with the Adam West Batman having a fit. I think it is because of all the external links, may set off some kind of anti-spam bot or something. I’ll be off tomorrow so I will get back on that comment. It was just a series of mass murders – well, erm, massacres and rampages throughout many EU/UK nations that many liberals site as not having these things happen. Even Obama stated in his speech after this shooting that it only happens in the US. I just wanted to point out what a crock of crap that is with citations.

          • It just happened to me again, Hans Solo working on some wires… with the Sorry.

            I noticed JUST before I hit the post button that the entire post screen glitched… That was my signal that when I hit the post button that I was going to get Hans… So right before I hit the post button I did a copy and back up… Then I got the Hans, and went right back to the same post via the email link… pasted and posted…

            It has saved me several times now… Just do a copy and paste before you hit post as a back up… If you don’t need it, then move on..

            Good luck, I know how hard it is to recover those long posts after you have done them once.

          • Therew is a loing lost of Christian murder — one that goes back centiries.
            Religion is the scurge of mankind — all religion.

          • Every sensible person knows that a killing of someone about to commit murder is permitted in any sensible society, so qualifying attacks on Planned Parenthood and abortionists as murder or terrorism, should probably be revisited.

          • OH AREN’T YOU PROUD OF THAT STATEMENT ! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THE “BABY WILL NOT GET THROWN OUT WITH THE BATHWATER”???? TELL ME SOMETHING , WHO OR HOW DID YOU LET SOME ONE BRAINWASH YOU ???

          • Matthew 5:44
            King James Version (KJV)

            But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

          • U.S. Christian Terror Organizations

            Animal Liberation Front

            Alpha 66

            The Jewish Defense League

            Omega 7

            Army of God

            Aryan Nations

            Black Liberation Army

            The Covenant

            Earth Liberation Front

            The Sword

            The Arm of the Lord

            Ku Klux Klan (Now International)

            May 19th Organization

            Occupy Wall Street

            The Order

            Phineas Priesthood

            Sovereign Citizens

            The Crips

            Symbioses Liberation Army

            United Freedom Front

            Weathermen

            The Silent Brotherhood

            Phineas Priesthood

          • PROOF you are on drugs.

          • PROOF Mathew Molk CANT Dislodge his[?] Head from his[?] ANUS.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Several of those are far left organizations – and about as Christian as my toilet paper. THE CRIPS!!! ALF! KKK! Aryan Nation (Neo-Nazis are non-religious, real Aryans are pagan)!!! OCCUPY!!! ROFL!!! Others may be far right extreme groups but at the same time – extremism isn’t a religion!

            Isn’t that what you preach about Muslims? If this is your point of view then you should agree with the extreme right’s belief that ALL Muslims are radicals because look at their their list! (By the way – this was reported by the United Arab Emirates)

            The UAE Muslim Brotherhood.

            Al Islah (or Da’wat Al-Islah).

            Fatah Al Islam (Lebanon).

            Associazione Musulmani Italiani (Association of Italian Muslims).

            Khalaya Al Jihad Al Emirati (Emirati Jihadist Cells).

            Osbat Al Ansar (the League of the Followers) in Lebanon.

            The Finnish Islamic Association (Suomen Islam-seurakunta).

            Alkarama organisation.

            Al Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM or Tanzim al-Qa‘idah fi Bilad al-Maghrib Al-Islami).

            The Muslim Association of Sweden (Sveriges muslimska forbund, SMF)

            Hizb Al Ummah (The Ommah Party or Nation’s Party) in the Gulf and the Arabian Peninsula

            Ansar Al Sharia in Libya (ASL, Partisans of Islamic Law).

            The Islamic Council Norway (Islamsk Rad Norge, IRN).

            Al Qaeda.

            Ansar Al Sharia in Tunisia (AST, Partisans of Sharia) in Tunisia.

            Islamic Relief UK.

            Daesh (ISIL).

            Harakat Al Shabaab Al Mujahideen (HSM) in Somalia (Mujahideen Youth Movement)

            The Cordoba Foundation (TCF) in Britain.

            Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).

            Boko Haraam (Jamaatu Ahlis Sunna Lidda’Awati Wal-Jihad) in Nigeria.

            Islamic Relief Worldwide (IRW) of the Global Muslim Brotherhood.

            Jamaat Ansar Al Sharia (Partisans of Sharia) in Yemen.

            Al Mourabitoun (The Sentinels) group in Mali.

            Tehrik-I-Taliban Pakistan (Taliban Movement of Pakistan).

            The Muslim Brotherhood (MB) organisation and groups.

            Ansar Al Dine (Defenders of the faith) movement in Mali.

            Abu Dhar Al-Ghifari Battalion in Syria.

            Jamaa Islamic in Egypt (AKA Al-Gama at al-Islamiyya, The Islamic Group, IG).

            The Haqqani Network in Pakistan.

            Al-Tawheed Brigade (Brigade of Unity, or Monotheism) in Syria.

            Ansar Bait Al-Maqdis (ABM, Supporters of the Holy House or Jerusalem) and now rebranded as Wilayat Sinai (Province or state in the Sinai).

            Lashkar-i-Taiba (Soldiers, or Army of the Pure, or of the Righteous).

            Al Tawhid Wal-Eman battalion (Battaltion of Unity, or Monotheism, and Faith) in Syria.

            Ajnad Misr (Soldiers of Egypt) group.

            The East Turkistan Islamic Movement in Pakistan (ETIM), AKA the Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP), Turkistan Islamic Movement (TIM).

            Katibat al-Khadra in Syria (the Green Battaltion).

            Majlis Shura Al-Mujahedeen Fi Aknaf Bayt Al-Maqdis (the Mujahedeen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, or MSC).

            Jaish-e-Mohammed (The Army of Muhammad).

            Abu Bakr Al Siddiq Brigade in Syria.

            The Houthi Movement in Yemen.

            Jaish-e-Mohammed (The Army of Muhammad) in Pakistan and India.

            Talha Ibn ‘Ubaid-Allah Compnay in Syria.

            Hizbollah Al Hijaz in Saudi Arabia.

            Al Mujahideen Al Honoud in Kashmor/ India (The Indian Mujahideen, IM).

            Al Sarim Al Battar Brigade in Syria.

            Hizbollah in the Gulf Cooperation Council.

            Islamic Emirate of the Caucasus (Caucasus Emirate or Kavkaz and Chechen jihadists).

            The Abdullah bin Mubarak Brigade in Syria.

            Al Qaeda in Iran.

            The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU).

            Qawafil Al-shuhada (Caravans of martyrs).

            The Badr Organisation in Iraq.

            Abu Sayyaf Organisation in the Philippines.

            Abu Omar Brigade in Syria.

            Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq in Iraq (The Leagues of the Righteous).

            Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

            Ahrar Shoummar Brigade in Syria (Brigade of the free men of the Shoummar Tribe).

            Hizbollah Brigades in Iraq.

            CANVAS organisation in Belgrade, Serbia.

            The Sarya al-Jabal Brigade in Syria.

            Liwa Abu al-Fadl Al-Abbas (rigade of Abu al-Fadl Al-Abbas) in Syria.

            The Muslim American Society (MAS).

            Al Shahba’ Brigade in Syria.

            Liwa Al-Youm al-Maw’oud in Iraq (Brigade of Judgement Day).

            International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) : Al Ka’kaa’ Bigade in Syria.

            Liwa Ammar bin Yasser (Ammar bin Yasser Brigade).

            Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe.

            Sufyan Al Thawri Brigade.

            Ansar al-Islam Group in Iraq (Partisans of Islam).

            Union of Islamic Organisations of France (L’Union des Organisations Islamiques de France, UOIF).

            Ebad ar-Rahman Brigade (Brigade of Soldiers of Allah) in Syria.

            Jabhat Al Nusra (Al-Nusra Front) in Syria.

            Muslim Association of Britain (MAB).

            Omar Ibn al-Khattab Battalion in Syria.

            Harakat Ahrar ash-Sham Al Islami (Islamic Movement of the Free Men of the Levant).

            Islamic Society of Germany (Islamische Gemeinschaft Deutschland).

            Al Shayma’ Battaltion in Syria.

            Jaysh Al Islam in Palestine (The Army of Islam in Palestine)

            The Islamic Society in Denmark (Det Islamiske Trossamfund, DIT).

            Katibat Al-Haqq (Brigade of the Righteous).

            The Abdullah Azzam Brigades.

            The League of Muslims in Belgium (La Ligue des Mussulmans de Belgique, LMB)

          • Keep you head down Sarge,

            And bring back some Moslem ears!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Whoops – somebody pulled that comment down… Guess once again the “radical liberal” mindset has crossed the wires.

            You cannot say that you support LGBT rights and the rights of radicalized Islam to freely perform their religious rights of Sharia under Constitutional protection from US law – while in the same series of thoughts regarding the greatest mass shooting in US history. A shooting perpetrated against the LGBT community, at the hands of a deranged man that identified with radical Islam while committing an act of terrorism. The conundrum is too paradoxical.

            Then to choose to defend the religious right of the shooter over the LGBT community’s right to life without illegal executions from religious extremists is absolute insanity.

          • A SAMPLE OF HOMEGROWN CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS – JUST THE PAST 10 YEARS

            Robert Lewis Dear — 3 dead, 9 injured – Colorado
            Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer – 9 dead, 9 injured – Oregon
            Dylann Storm Roof — 9 dead – S. Carolina
            Elliot Rodger – 6 dead – California
            Aaron Alexis — 12 dead — DC
            John Zawahri – 5 dead – California
            Adam Lanza – 27 dead – Connecticut
            Radcliffe Haughton – 3 dead — Wisconsin
            Andrew Engeldinger – 6 dead — Minnesota
            Wade Michael Page – 6 dead – Wisconsin
            James Holmes – 12 dead – Colorado
            One L. Goh – 7 dead – California
            Scott Dekraai – 8 dead — California
            Jared Lee Loughner – 6 dead – Arizona
            Omar S. Thornton – 8 dead – Connecticut
            Amy Bishop – 3 dead — Alabama
            Jiverly Voong – 13 dead — New York
            Steven Kazmierczak – 5 dead – Illinois
            Robert Hawkins – 8 dead — Nebraska
            Seung-hui Cho – 32 dead – Virginia
            Charles Carl Roberts IV – 5 dead — Pennsylvania
            Jennifer San Marco – 6 dead – California
            Jeffrey Weise – 9 dead — Minnesota
            Doug Williams – 5 dead — Mississippi
            Robert S. Flores – 3 dead — Arizona
            Charles Andrew Williams – 2 dead — California
            Michael McDermott – 7 dead – Massachusetts
            Bryan Uyesugi – 7 dead – Hawaii

        • Religious freedom does not include threats and actions to kill those who are not of your religious faith!! This country was NOT FOUNDED UPON MURDER. We need to do what we can to keep this from happening again.

          • Not founded upon murder?! You might want to ask some Native Americans about that.

          • Dredging up more crap to stir the pot Twinkie? LibTURDS blow, not America!

          • MuricaBlows did you ever hear the Native Americans referred to as savages? Want to know why? It’s because many of them were savages. Just like the muslimes are savages. And anyone who buys into that religion of peace crap is ignorant, naive and has their head up their ass.
            Furthermore if you think muricablows is cute then you’re an asshole so just get the f**k out and stay out.

          • Wow. You’re incredibly dumb.

          • And you’re still an asshole.

          • I can get over being an asshole. You’re stuck with your weak intellect for life.

          • I don’t see you making any effort to eliminate your self-imposed ifnorance

          • What’s “ifnorance”? I’m ignorant as to its meaning.

          • You may get over it (just because you’re “over it”, doesn’t mean you’re not anymore) but I doubt the people you come in contact will ever get over it.

          • I’m hoping that you don’t, you drooling imbecile.

          • Heheh…you probably consider abortion a reasonable birth control method…and you call ME an imbecile…MENSA…and I don’t mean the High IQ group…I mean the Spanish definition.

          • No, I don’t consider abortion a reasonable birth control method. Any other assumptions you’d like to share?

          • Do you consider abortion, murder?

          • No, I don’t.

          • Nope.

          • If someone ripped your unborn baby from your womb and killed it…would you consider it murder.

          • If the life of a mother depended on aborting a three-week-old fetus, would you consider that murder?

          • Now you want to answer a question with a question don’t take the liberal way out. But in answer to your question… I would say that nature had it’s way of working itself out without the help of anyone to decide whose life has the most value. In the case of multiple abortions I would have to place a greater value on the child considering the irresponsibility of the “mother”.

          • I answered with a question for rhetorical purposes, to demonstrate that the question you posed is not as simple as you think. I’m not sure how you get to “irresponsibility of the mother” here.

          • You didn’t answer, period. The irresponsibility of the mother comes in when more than 90% of “unwanted” pregnancies could be avoided if the woman cared enough about what to “do with her body” BEFORE she got pregnant. Many going right back to their promiscuous and irresponsible behavior so as to “need” multiple abortions. But let someone suggest sterilization and the roof blows off. It’s so much easier to expect society to pay for their mistakes. In any event, I asked you a question first which you are STILL avoiding.

          • I’m happy to answer. Just to refresh my memory, the question was this: “If someone ripped your unborn baby from your womb and killed it…would you consider it murder.”

            I’ll ignore the fact that I don’t have a womb, and that it would likely be a murder anyhow because the mother would likely die, and say this: it would depend on the age of the fetus. If it were a week old? Nope, not murder. If it were 30 weeks old? Yes, that’s murder.

            Now I hope that you will answer my question: where did you come up with the statistic that “more than 90% of “unwanted” pregnancies could be avoided if the woman cared enough about what to “do with her body” BEFORE she got pregnant”? Did you just make it up?

          • My question was hypothetical…assuming you had a womb and not considering that the mother would likely die. I was referring strictly to the baby being taken from you and destroyed.

            So since the baby was ripped out at one week, denying you the benefits of the joy of motherhood, it would not be murder as opposed to 30 weeks? Ok….that’s a lot of leeway but at least you answered.

            The 90% of aborted unwanted pregnancies was actually rather generous and was based on the 10% failure rate of contraception whether it be condom or other forms, provided anyone made an attempt at being responsible against an unwanted pregnancy. So 90% is a “convenient” form of birth control.

          • In other words, you made up that statistic. Thanks for being honest.

          • It is a FACT that 90% of abortions are done for convenience NOT for any “health” concerns. In other words just a means to promote more promiscuity and irresponsibility.

            What I don’t find shocking is your determination of when one could consider abortion, murder.

          • You have no source for that “statistic.” Ergo, you are making it up.

            Have a pleasant evening.

          • Do a little research and you may be surprised. But let’s say that I did “make it up”…let’s say only 500,000 babies were killed each year in America for convenience sake, when is it too much?

          • I’d say it’s too much long before the 500K mark.

            And at this point I’ll politely exit our conversation. Cheers.

          • Good to see we do agree on something…cheers to you to.

          • I agree with the sentiment, but no tthe foul language.

          • Speaking of foul, did someone change your depends lately?

          • Holy crap, you’re stupid.

          • You, on the other hand, suffwr from self-imposed ignoance — a fate worse than death.

          • Chris Robinette

            El, native Americans were not savages and I will not go into attempting to explain why. Just say we were more civilized than you obviously are.

          • Scalp em Tonto…

          • Chris Robinette

            Scalping was a “White man” invention, Paleface.

          • BS

          • Chris Robinette

            It’s not BS as GrizzMann stated.

          • The French needed a way to tally the dead. Like ears in Viet Nam.

          • Chris Robinette

            You know your history, thanks.

          • Just what year were YOU in country?

            If you weren’t there then shut the fuck up.

            BTW Virtnam is ONE word, kid?

          • Michael Dennewitz

            WTF is virtnam?? ?

          • Michael Dennewitz

            Lot of ears on boot laces when we left… ??

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Technically, although not “invented” by Native Americans, it was first used by the Scythians (Iranian Eurasians) of the Eurasian Steppes (modern Ukraine) and was first commonly used between 899-20BC. The Scythians would behead their enemies and the warriors would present the heads to the king. They would then cut a circle from behind the ears and shake the head by the hair until the hair and scalp came free. Then they scraped away all the flesh with the edge of an ox bone tool and would work the skin until it became very pliable. In the end they would sew these to their horses bridle and wear them with pride. The Saka tribe of central Asia, a kin of the Scythians also practiced this ritual of warriorhood. The Alani, another Asiatic Scythian tribe practiced this rite as well.

            Around that same period of time the ancient Teutonic tribes of Germania, later known as the Lombards and Ostrogoths adopted the practice that the Romans called “decalvare” which meant “shaving.” The Visiogoths however carried a similar practice of “capillos et cutem distrahere” which meant “retailing the hair and skin,” and scalps were traded with great value and believed to grant supernatural powers as well as bring luck. Obviously this is akin to the modern definition of scalping. The Vandals also adopted a similar custom known as “barbere huden og haret,” which meant shave off the skin and the hair, and is where the modern word “Barber” comes from. The Germanic tribe of the Franks and Frisians were well accustomed to dealing with these aforementioned tribes and their customs.

            After the fall of the Roman Empire and the division of the Gothic kingdoms (during the Iron Age) different nations adopted customs from their neighboring kingdoms. The Gaulians (ancient Franks, modern French) who settled in modern France and Germany adopted this as a method of keeping a kill count in wars, as well as the Hollanders, Zeelanders, Freislanders, and Guelders (ancient Frisians, modern Dutch).

            Ironically, around the same time, some native Americans began practicing scalping on their own. Around 1325, about 450 of the 500 bodies discovered at the Crow Creek Massacre site showed obvious signs of scalping. However, this was not widely practiced by Native Americans although it may indicate that some ancient native American tribes are descended from the Scythian bloodline found in the Mongols, Ainu, and Abisu peoples.

            Scalping in the Colonial period was first performed by Dutch settlers in the Connecticut and Massachusetts colonies. During the Pequot War (1634-1638) the colonial officials offered bounties for the heads of any natives thought to be conspiring with the Pequot Tribe. When hunting parties would go out and return with 20-30 heads, carrying all the 15lb heads around was tiresome so the colonial officials began calling for the scalps. Hannah Duston also killed and scalped 10 of her Abenaki captors, two men, two women, and six children, as they sleeping in 1697. She was branded a hero and offered a reward for their scalps.

            Scalping performed by native Americans became more common after the actions of the French from around 1710 and into the early 1730’s, during their wars against the Natchez and Meskwaki peoples. During this point scalping natives for reward was a common bounty practiced and quite profitable so the French soldiers saw this as a great opportunity to cash in and scalped them en masse. The French and Natchez peoples were peaceful neighbors and France traded with the Natchez nation (modern Mississippi) for several years greatly profiting both the Natchez and the French Louisiana colonies. War broke out when Commandant Sir Chepart demanded undeserved land for his plantation Fort Rosalie, from the Natchez tribal chieftains. When the Natchez refused the French attacked them killing 600 men. The Natchez planned a counteroffensive and launched a guerilla type attack on the French nearly killing all of the men(230 men) in the Louisiana colony of Fort Rosalie (NOTE: the savage Natchez let the women, children, and African slaves go).

            The French Governor of Louisiana Etienne Perier ordered a force of black slaves to massacre the entire Chaouacha community (a tribe not affiliated with the Natchez) out of fear (and ignorance) of an “Indian uprising” in retaliation to the attack. The attack on their villages was so fierce and unexpected that Baudry de Lozieres even noted that their entire civilization was reduced to only 40 warriors, who fled the massacre. Every other man woman and child in their tribe was killed. The Ouacha and Opelousa people were the next to be destroyed in this obscure wake of events. At this point the French had massed between 1200 and 7000 scalps (historians debate the numbers) leaving trails of scalped bodies rotting in the sun in their wake. Later the French massed an army and launched an offensive against the Natchez killing thousands and enslaving about 700 of them. The Natchez fled into the neighboring Chickasaw nation and planned small strategic strikes against the French for several years to try to drive the French back out of their lands. However, French retaliatory expeditions against the Natchez from 1730 thru 1732 destroyed the remaining Natchez forces and forced them to retreat among the mightier Creek and Cherokee nations as refugees. The Natchez never again existed as a free and independent tribe of people. In a related retalliation the French colonies in what is modern Ontario also attacked the Mekwaki tribe which all but destroyed the tribe entirely (survivors ran southwest of the Great Lakes and were allowed to settle in Iowa) from which 700 more scalps were retrieved.

            However, it wasn’t until the 75 year war of the New England Colonies (who were allied with the Iroquois Confederate nation) against New France (who was allied with the Wabanaki Confederate nation) starting with “King William’s War” in 1688 (where scalping was occurring on both sides) that word of this practice began to spread among the warriors of the native tribal nations. It was after this point you finally began seeing it as a random occurrence when native warrior raided the European colonies.

            In retrospect, scalping was originally a primitive Scythian practice that made it’s way around the world. However, it was the European settlers that provoked into a common practice of the natives from acts of European barbarism against the natives and then the natives mimicking the practice in a form of aggressive protest against the atrocities committed against them. It was to spite the colonists.

          • Chris Robinette

            Thanks Gunny for the history. Did not realize that about the Crow Creek Massacre and wonder which tribe of native Americans did that. You seem very versed in history more detailed than I remember. Any time you need it Gunny, I have your 6. MOS 8404 Fleet Marine Corpsman. USNR.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Well, Semper Fi Chris! MOS 5711 CBRN Defense Specialist with the 22nd MEU. Got to spend quite a bit of time with you fleeters on the USS Bataan (ARG) with the 22nd’s BLT 1/6 (in the Arabian Sea, Gulf of Oman, and Persian Gulf), throughout OIF and OEF. Also got to take a cruise on the USS Fort McHenry in the Persian Gulf.

            As far as the Crow Creek Massacre it seems only three ancient tribes lived in the region of modern Chamberlain, South Dakota (where the mound was discovered). There were the Siouan and Mandan speaking peoples that were residents and possibly some Caddoan people that were alien to the region. No one knows what happened or why the massacre occurred nor the events leading to it. There is just a mass grave of seemingly and entire village that had been dismembered, tongues removed, bodies mutilated, decapitated, and scalped. Bodies were also burned – and most scholars agree that most of the mutilations seemed to be on living victims and the traumas of these mutilations would have been enough to cause death in many through trauma. It is believed that this was an entire tribal village and remains of men, women, and children were all discovered in similar conditions (except the children were scalped higher on the head). It also seems that their corpses were left to rot above ground for a time pre-burial where birds and other mid-west scavengers of the time had at the bodies before they were buried.

            My assumption – they must’ve done something terrible and really pissed someone off… That is just way too violent, angry, and passionate – it’s involved. The perpetrators were really seeming to enjoy that. Or – they had very psychotic neighbors. Ironic thing, I have seen it mentioned several times that the act is reflective of Aboriginal butchery of animals and it may have even been a lost ancient nomadic tribe of North American Cannibals (which were more prevalent in the far reaches of South America).

            As far as my historic recollections, I remember much of what I read (somewhat a photographic memory – being an investigator and exercising that part of the brain often probably helps), but also, being completely honest – “Google is strong with this one.” I remember things like “Crow Creek Massacre” and other related subjects, topics, people’s, stories, etc., that I recall hearing or reading about. I write my post then check it. Anything in doubt I Google it and read for a few minutes. I usually don’t recall dates or precise numbers in statistics but have a general idea. If I prove myself wrong in the process of gathering my evidence – I won’t post my response or will change it. Sometimes these things help my adjust where I stand on topics to the side that I feel is “most” correct. My process has influenced me before – I come into the argument from the right and leave on the left, or explain my left belief and see the truth in the right. I feel that reserving the right to initially be wrong and improving my beliefs in their errs as new evidence reveals itself is the most American process of thinking. It also is about as close to universally fair as one can be.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow_Creek_massacre#The_massacre

            Once I make sure my facts are in line, I post. When people say I am full of crap – I tell them to refute me with facts and reliable citations (they usually go away or say stupid stuff after that). Sometimes they take me up on it, usually it ends up failing but sometimes I am proved wrong. I will confess victory to my fellow debater and reform my beliefs around the newly perceived truth. Which places my beliefs in an ever evolving state that changes drastically through time. I never assume I know everything about a subject because that is a bigoted and ignorant way of thinking – once you go there all learning ceases. I like learning new things and different perspectives.

            I love it when people that don’t know me tease on my beliefs or political leanings they assume they know of me. My “beliefs” are based in logic, facts, and evidence. (the faith is weak in this one – but skepticism and will to research is strong) “I want proof!”

            Technically, I am a right wing white Christian. However, I have left leanings and if the right is wrong I reserve my right to change sides on that matter. I feel those that blindly follow (anyone) are likely to be led into more foolish mistakes and situations than one that stands back a second and looks at the whole picture briefly before deciding. Sometimes, considering another’s position in the matter changes yours.

            Unfortunately, society seems to be heralding against this way of thinking. They seem to assert that the lines have already been drawn and you must pick one side or another (such an ancient and ignorant practice). If you see in black and white this is fine. If you see shades of grey you may question it sometimes. If you see in 3D with full color HD – you realize that black and white is not real. There are many angles that must always be considered and if you refuse to consider them you may miss the most important detail of the story and are doomed to make a bad choice… and will learn nothing from it but regret.

            (I also tend to edit a lot for the first 30 minutes after posting to correct errors – a luxury I do not have right now because I need to patrol – but it will likely be done before you read this post… lol!)

          • Did a little check too and your facts what I quickly found checked out. Again thank you for the native American history lesson. And like I said before, I have your six should you need it.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Your extension is most welcome.

            The Crow Creek thing was a singular, totally isolated event. The only known one of it’s kind among the North American natives pre-European expansion. I was not trying to imply that North American Natives were savages or support the ignorance of other postings.

            I always make sure my facts check out. (I actually double-check when writing) LOL!

          • THANKS!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            I have to agree with that… Too many “far” left/right nutty bars out there anymore. There is no capability of compromise and most issues go back and forth until forgotten and no resolution is ever struck.

          • I, for one am tired of the total dysfunction of government. No one group or party is without blame and it is time to clean house as both parties are bought and paid for.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Hell yeah!

            Time to “correct the sins of our fathers.”

            Everyone always swears they want it but Jesus, isn’t time someone lifted a finger to DO something about it? I heard things like this ever since I was kid! Yet, when you shout “Alright let’s go!” You soon find yourself alone, because change, requires a ton of work.

            I don’t understand why you get such a hard time here, you seem a reasonable enough guy to me. Probably more so than most I encounter on this kind of forum. I find I also enjoy most of your comments. You seem to be logical and present yourself as a person that uses facts, reason, and resources to decide what is and is not to be believed. (Good for you – seriously… too few care enough to investigate what they believe)

          • El Vagabundo,YOU Must Be one of them Ill Eagles Trump wants to Deport!

          • Looking in the mirror El Savage?

          • Chris Robinette

            Murder for land and for the land’s treasures is not the same as murder in the name of a false god called “Allah” According to the Encyclopedia of Religion, Allah corresponded to the Babylonian god Baal, and Arabs knew of him long before Mohammed worshipped him as the supreme God. Before Islam the Arabs recognized many gods and goddesses, each tribe had their own deity. There were also nature deities. Allah was the god of the local Quarish tribe, which was Mohammed’s tribe before he invented Islam to lead his people out of their polytheism.

          • When one is at war and one side loses, the loser is never considered “murdered”.

          • Colonization and war are not the same thing.

          • Some call it war, some will call it colonization. The end result is appropriation of “someone else’s land”. The Native Americans did it themselves. Many Inter-Indian wars resulted in in land gains for the sake of one tribal COLONY or another. Apaches acquired Mexican lands, The Sioux took massive lands from their neighbors (not to mention their wives),the Navajo was very “possessive” and the Comanche took everything and anything they could. There are no saints on Earth. Murder is the willful taking of a life for NO REASON. Kinda like ABORTION.

          • It is a historical fact that Native Americans did the things that British and European colonizers did, on a smaller scale. (Including holding slaves in some bands.) Some of those activities involved what amounts to murder–on both sides.

          • There is no doubt that every culture has their share of murderers.

          • Every race in human history practiced slavery. For example Muslims enslaved an estimated 60-100 million Africans. All the men were castrated to prevent them breeding. They treated slaves with unimaginable cruelty way beyond any other race in human history.

            The European white race had a small number of slaves estimated between 2-4 million and due to their Christian background treated them better than any other races treated their slaves. The 99.999% of the European race hated slavery (moral compass) from the start so they ended it globally at great cost to themselves.

            Another interesting fact is no Republican ever owned a single slave. All slave owners were Democrats. Funny how things work out in the end wouldn’t you agree. I mean, how its only white people blamed globally for it. Seems like there is an agenda there. Im sure you agree.

          • I love that I’m so inside your head that you’re looking up 2-month-old posts of mine. Why so mad, bro?

          • Know thy enemy

          • Come get some, honey. I’ve got a big load saved up for you.

          • And the Native Americans did not murder? God had a reason to subdue the Indian population because of their satanic religious practices just like the muslims who worship a dead false god. The NA were detrimental to our new client nation to God just like the nations who went against Israel. God knew that they would never accept His precepts just like the NA would not. There is only one God; the God of the Bible. The NA even have a greater opportunity to better themselves with government money but they prefer their satanic lazy way of life. However, there are a few exceptions as in any group.

          • Wow, you’re fucking nuts.

          • Murica, Angela is correct. This Nation was not founded upon murder. The white men that came here bonded with the Native Americans and taught them many things and Indians taught the white man many skills to live off the land. Like what plants they could and couldn’t eat, etc. The Indians were a big help to the white man. White man taught the Indians skills also and to read, etc. What you’re thinking about are the few Indians that did not want to accept the white man and tried to kill them. Naturally the white man had to fight those. The white man also married Native America Indian women. etc, etc, etc. It’s a long story. But you can find it if you’ll look it up. My Grandmother was FULL blooded Cherokee Indian. So i got alot of my info from my grandmother. Alot of first hand knowledge that i cherish. Indians also helt government seats in some of the towns and wore suits. Picture that. You can find it in your history books. I hope you look it up. I think you would enjoy reading about it and seeing how much the Indians and white men did get along and build this nation together. I’ve taught my children and my grandchildren this history. I wanted them to know their true history and that they are part Native American Cherokee Indian and part White Man. God Bless

          • And that is buy keeping our gun’s and getting rid of obummer and hitlary.I’m sure there is a country far far away that would have them

          • right,mike:buy,buy,buy,Dumb Shit!

          • OK ass wipe lib.If you don’t like it here you can leave anytime you want,Dumb Shit.Yes I spelled by wrong,Idiot

          • Ridding the world of Infidels is the objective of Islam.

        • Cashed your welfare check AKwhore?

        • Come on, you are smarter than this. Mass murder is as human as apple pie and religious freedom doesn’t permit murder. The article highlights a disconnect that should deeply trouble honest people regardless of their political, religious, or sexual orientation.

          • BOOM!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Shame that no one seems to care – jump back to politics – blame Christians and guns because there was no hate crime here, no disgruntled young psychopath that subscribed to radical Islam… Nope – if he wasn’t oppressed by white Christians, who own guns, then this would have never happened. Let’s focus on the real issues here. (sarcasm of course)

            The really sad thing I see in this is they didn’t even do that big national tragedy moment of silence thing where the news networks, government offices and everything stop for like a measly 10 minutes of silence out of respect for the victims, survivors, and family and for prayer and reflection. Liberals claim they want LGBT to have equal rights but their media is avoiding acting like this is a tragedy and the furthest lefties speak as if it is just another day and requires no special attention!

            They have reached a point where they just confuse the holy hell outta me.

          • Hate is hate, regardless of which religion teaches it.

            Christianity is not innocent of snseless murder. Christian based murder is taking place in the Central African Republic as we speak.

            Here in America, Christian religion-based murder justifies killing doctors and bombing clinics.

            Not long ago, innocent Sehks were murdered in Oklahoma City — because some ignorant Christians thought they were Muslims.

          • That fool that murdered all of those people in Orlando was a special kind of mental case.

            He “thought” that he might be gay, knew that his father “hated” gays and knew that his religion did as well.

            Because he “thought” that he was gay (or might be gay) he had been going to that same club two or three times a month for the last two or three years… trying to “fit in” to a sxual cubbyhole that he probably didn’t belong in in the first place. He thoght that the gays were “cool” and wanted to be “cool” too but never really did fit into the “scene”.

            He was probably rebelling against his father’s hate of gays but at the same time didn’t understand it; himself being around so many gays so much of the time.

            What he was doing was torturing himself for those two or three years but was probably trying to illustrate to his father that gays were nothing to hate; even if he, himslf, couldn’t quite cross that line.

            To make a long story short, it may have taken him two or three years but in the end he totally f**ked up his own mind (basicall over nothing) and the end result was “what you see is what you get”.

            Not once in those two or three years did he even attempt to get any of the help that was available to him (he probably didn’t know that there was such a thing).

          • As I live in Florida and spend a lot of time in Orlando (all of the last week), I got 24/7 news coverage and got to witness personally the way this event has unfolded and how the city is dealing with it.

            You are correct that Omar Mateen was a very twisted individual and listening to both the reports of how co-workers and friends described him, he would be considered a candidate for medication and a rubber room no mater what religion he belonged to.

            If you look at any of the interviews with his father, one can clearly determine that sound mental health is not genetically linked in that family as “dad” posted a video on a Facebook page called “Provisional Government of Afghanistan — Seddique Mateen.” In it, he seems to be pretending to be Afghanistan’s president, and he orders the arrest of an array of Afghan political figures.

            While Omar did claim to be a member of ISIS, I would say the he was far more delusional like his father and both used religion as a means to justify an altered sense of reality.

            Yea, one could say Omar was a Muslim with all of the stereo-type radical tendencies and those of you who vilify Islam will do your best to link him as such, but he was clearly more emotionally and mentally unstable than he was religious.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

          • Completely right. And, as it turns out, all of this is a welcome distraction where the elctoral college and the powers that be are concerned. The liberal media have shifted their focus from anything that actually matters… to Orlando.

            The TV deserves to be left “off” and the only place to obtain actual news is deep within the Internet… for those that know what they’re doing with the Internet.

          • You must have taken brainwashing 101, repeat, repeat, repeat!!!!!!

          • Same tactic Hillary and Obama use…”If you like you’re doctor” “it was the video” “I have turned over ALL my emails”. Sort of what the chieftains used on the children in Cambodia.

          • You know what they say about those who lie, they end up believing their lie’s, little do they know they are brain washing themselves.

          • Exactly…just look at Hillary every time she opens her mouth. She believes herself enough to convince other people as foolish as herself to actually believe her also.

          • Well it’s sad when you realize that many sheeple actually stand by her especially the younger generation but It’s worse when the parents of these brain dead robot’s never cared what their children were learning or did nothing when people such as Ayer’s and many others akin, teaching in our colleges but now it starts at kinder garden level …. Problem is they are now the future and that’s why any form of infiltration Is totally dangerous as It takes years to undue that mindset and one of the reasons why communism, socialism, ect; Is never defeated and has to be dealt with instantly ! Activity such as this has been allowed in America at least since WW1 . The movie industry was big accomplishment in this area and created were ways of ground level’s up in every industry. I saw this as a young person and faught my fights along the way but I guess I was only one of the very few who really saw what was coming and look where it got us as the dumb down are only for me, me, me kind of people so the American sheeple along with the innocent may see an area of “only the fittest will survive” and I doubt that will be none to speak about. We may have one more hope but I have a feeling and ?????

          • I totally agree…except for the “none to speak about” part. I feel that the “survival of the fittest” time is already upon us. Time to lock and load.

          • I agree to a certain extent except for many the innocent will be a target to impossible gun rules as the enemy will continue to have access right here in America after all that is the plan for the regime of the OWO !!! THANKS TO THE DUMB SHEEPLE

          • As has been reported…AR15’s are flying off the shelves because in spite of the Senate voting down any reform tactics attempted by the left in true Obama fashion, he will do something drastic by executive order before November which I believe may send us further down dire straits. I have “some” weaponry but I think it’s time to stock up not so much in more arms but ammunition and better magazines.

          • BETTER STOCK UP ON A FEW MORE CREW; WELL THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET TRUMP IN, SOOOO????

          • It’s sad that you don’t qualify the death of millions at Planned Parenthood as murder but I bet you were furious about the killing of Harambe. Liberal priorities are un-explainable.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            I agree – and as I have stated to you and others ad nauseum now – it is not Muslims that are to blame… BUT to ignore the issue of social media indoctrinated terrorists that are being radicalized on the internet is a spreading issue that should not be ignored. I understand that you have recently been filled with hate recently and just want to see the blood of Christians flow through the streets – but that is not the issue at hand, only the one in your head.

          • History says something very diffferent. I strongly suspect you are confusing the actions of individuals with that of governments, armies, etc.

          • They deleted your response, however, 99% of your examples were carried out by multiple people — not a lone mass murderer.

          • Your statement “however, 99% of your examples were carried out by multiple people — not a lone mass murderer” is simply not true. While some were committed by more than one individual and one article categorized a number of different types of murders into a total, none of them met your statement criteria of being carried out by “governments, armies, etc.” and are therefore evidence that your assertion about mass murder is not accurate. As far as my comment being deleted, I just went to it to review the articles before I responded, so I do not know why you are unable to view it. Regardless, anyone can open the articles, which were just a sample of those available on the topic, and judge for themselves if your statement was accurate.

          • You know this how? If they were deleted you never saw any of them.

          • I had to have seen your post in order to know it had been deletd, wouldn’t I?
            How about a little common sense?

          • A lone mass murderer working for a cult can just as dangerous if not more so than several people.

        • Freedom of Religion is the Right of ALL Citizens ( there are over 400 recognized Religions in the USA) – it is NOT the basis of the US Constitution except in the minds of Religious Zealots/Bigots.

        • You sound like you are part of the Muslim Brotherhood.

        • You are an ugly spirited, bigoted American HATER…

          We all know that Apple pie was invented by Mrs. Smith in New York…

          And mass murder has been around since history has been recorded…

          Being American has nothing to do with murder… shut your pie hole troll.

        • Chris Robinette

          Islam is not covered under the constitution.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Well since Islam is technically the name given to the body of Muslims that accept Sharia as a universal law system for all of mankind – I would suppose not. Since murder is not a Constitutionally protected form of religious expression and there is no law higher than the Constitution, which governs the SCOTUS. Since the SCOTUS doesn’t recognize Sharia as an acceptable variant to US law – it cannot be protected. Although, contemporary Muslims are, provided they are abiding US law in the USA.

          • So technically we are looking at a “Catch 22”? Protection till proven wrong?

        • Uhhuh and will you accept the responsibility when the rapist killer muslims start raping and killing , so far all you liberal dem bloodsuckers have done is try to pretend the muslims weren’t involved in this

        • Just like free speech is yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theater.

          You need to get a life,, and a brain too..

        • As long as we differentiate between a religion and a cult we should be alright. There is nothing American about mass murder.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          “Mass murder is as American as apple pie.
          Religious freedom is the basis America was founded upon.” ~AKLady2015

          And you believe that both should be equally protected under the US Constitution. Especially against Christians (as you have made abundantly clear) for so long as it is Muslims that do it. It is okay for gays to be gay but as long as the US government allows Muslims to kill them under acts of protected religious expression. That is your argument right?

          Oh and anyone that disagrees or points out your failed ideology is a bigot, idiot, and racist… GOT IT!

      • Semper Fi!!! Thank you for your service MGySgt!!!

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Thank you for your service and sacrifice for our nation Joe! I read about your situation in other posts.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Fuck you for fighting and fucking up the world asshole!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            I feel sorry for you… You’ll be the next one to shoot up a public location.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Right, you feel sorry for me!?! Slurp slurp.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            How many people oppressed by foreign terrorist regimes have you saved? How many trapped lives have you pulled from under the rubble of downed buildings? How many cases of radiation or chemical poisoning have you diagnosed in assistance with field medics saving the lives of innocent people caught in a crossfire between warring governments?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            37 people.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            If you have walked a mile in those shoes, then why would you criticize others that have done the same?

          • Here’s some reading for you, maybe you will calm down

            VICTORY of Brexit!
            Posted on
            24 June, 2016
            by
            admixofensiva
            Posted in
            Courtesy of https://davesnewsblog.wordpress.com/author/justnews4m1/
            By Dave Shea
            Posted by justnews4m1 on June 24, 2016
            For the general public of the U.K. and “a slap in the face” for the
            elites and their stooges who’s scare-mongering exposed their own fear
            and clearly did not intimidate the people as it was intended to do. The
            “remainers” did not have any credible arguements and the Brits have had
            their fill of the way the UK Government has treated them, so those that
            have actually used their heads have now made their statement. Yay!

            “The usual suspects” are reeling in shock as the referendum on the EU
            went completely opposite to what was expected, and now all the “sour
            grapes”, “face-saving” and “finger-pointing” goes into overdrive, as
            well as lots more “waffling” by “experts” about “what’s going to happen”
            as a result, including “who” “should do” what. Political wrangling is
            not going to go away, sadly.

            The Dutch opposition are already calling for a referendum of their
            own, and seven other countries with a majority of eaurosceptics were
            also considering considering leaving the EU if the UK voted to leave,
            which is something that has never been done before, by anyone.

            It would be helpful if level-heads kept their cool and the country
            now united to carry out the will of the majority. It will take time.
            However, the possibilities for dramatic change in so many areas are all
            out on the table now and it will take brave people to take on the
            responsibilities needed to go forward into new “uncharted territory”.
            You can be sure that “the powers that be” will not make it any easier
            though.

            Personally, I am happily surprised at the result. I honestly didn’t
            expect it, as there were so many “heavyweights” on the “remain” side,
            especially in the media, but I am impressed that there are enough Brits
            that have been willing to do their homework and make their voice heard.
            Well done!

            P.S.

            Following is my response to a friend who just asked “What victory?…the pound just fell 10%!”

            (Note: that the banksters, fraudsters and profiteers in “the financial
            sector” were betting on a “remain” win, as were the gambling
            institutions, so when things were obviously going clearly “wrong”, from
            the early stages of the results, they decided to dump their £’s and
            stocks (this is what they do, only in it for themselves). It went as low
            as 12% “loss” on the £ and global stock-markets “crashed”. HOWEVER,
            when the governor of The Bank of England, a Canadian import by the way,
            told them all that “he had it covered” it rebounded and recovered by
            half at least within hours! – London and the U.K. is one of the major
            financial centres of the world, from where some of the most nefarious
            deeds originate. You didn’t really think that they weren’t going to
            cover their own arses did you? Anyway…)

            My response to the question/statement from my friend…

            “The ONLY people who “win” or “lose” are in the financial world and are
            the those who use/misuse it. They are only trying to “cut their losses”
            so that they can keep whatever they can, selfishly.

            Governments are supposed to issue money and govern its distribution,
            on behalf of the people, not the banksters and corporations.

            The problems of the world are all about money and its manipulation by
            those who have (stolen) it, by hook and by crook. The rest of the world
            suffers as a result.

            We don’t have to pay those who steal from us to do so. This is all basic economics, or should be (but isn’t).

            The people have the right to determine their future, and every right to take it back from those who’s interests are not theirs.

            Freedom is not something that comes without some cost or sacrifice,
            and you can be sure that the elites will make the ordinary man “pay” for
            his audacity to stand up and refuse to comply with the slavery imposed
            on him.

            ‘Nuff said!”

          • GodBlessRealAmerica!

            Nothing you Liberal racist thugs can do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            We comin 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eitsnews.com/politics/2016/04/chilling-video-muslims-screaming-death-to-america-in-this-us-city-media-

            MUSLIMS SCREAMING “DEATH TO AMERICA” IN THIS CITY!

        • StupidConservativeValues

          You’re a gullible goober.

      • Chris Robinette

        Well said gunny, well said.

      • SHHHHHHH! THOUST SHALL NOT SPEAKETH, THE TRUTH ON HERE!!!!
        THOUGH YOUR 100% CORRECT

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          I was recently thinking of trying out for the Coast Guard, from what I gather they have an awesome leadership program for former military personnel. But… I used to work on a crab boat in the Delaware bay (and fell overboard in the bay more than once) and being on the East Coast I know they’ll send me to Cape May for training… So I need to time my application appropriately so I don’t end up in the soup during the colder months. LOL!

          Thank you for your service to our nation.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            You pander you POS!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            How so? You’re allegation makes no sense… My comment to Patriot068 was honest – it is something I have been considering. However, the Delaware Bay is frigid as hell from September through May. I don’t want to be tossed out of a helicopter in 40 degree water. How are these facts pandering? What immoral desire am I indulging?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I’d try to explain it, but I’m dealing with you, which is an intellectual dead end.

          • HERE’S SOMETHING INTELLECTUAL FOR YOU !

            Donald Trump won a key legal battle last week when a federal
            district court in California partially decertified a class action
            lawsuit against Trump and the now-defunct Trump University, which once
            offered real estate classes.

            The lawsuit is one of several against Trump regarding the university,
            and claims that students were lured into the classes with false
            advertising, “like an infomercial,”
            with no real hope of recouping their educational investment. The
            plaintiffs in the case included six former students from California,
            Missouri, Florida, and New York.

            The court allowed the suit to proceed on the claim of liability.
            However, it found that there was no common claim for damages. The
            students wanted full refunds, but Trump’s legal team argued, and the
            court agreed, that some representatives of the class had admitted
            receiving at least some value from the courses. The result is that
            each plaintiff would have to proceed with separate legal actions to
            recover damages, which will be prohibitive for most.

            A statement by the Trump legal team said the ruling “validates the
            fact that Trump University provided a legitimate and valuable real
            estate education.”

            That, coupled “with the fact that 98% of all Trump University
            students rated the program ‘excellent,’ and was also rated ‘A’ by the
            Better Business Bureau, will ultimately doom Plaintiffs’ claims.”

        • StupidConservativeValues

          Goat fuckers like you need to go Semper Fi their mom’s crotches.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Do you have evidence to prove that Patriot068 has in fact fucked a goat?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Yes, you tasted goat shit on his cock when you were blowing him.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Wow, again with the hatefulness… So you are also a homophobe. Okay. Again I confess to feeling sorry for you. Your life must be terrible to behave in such a manner on a thread regarding a national tragedy. I don’t even understand how anything human could behave in such a manner without feeling the deepest of shame. I’m sorry whatever trauma you’ve suffered in your life has made you hate humanity so much.

      • Right on Sergent.

        Peaceful coexistence with a virulent stein of an aggressive malignant cancer. — Kind of like Hillery Clinton only even worse,

        Molk the Dogface.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Thank you for your service Molk! People just don’t get it.

        • StupidConservativeValues

          Fuck you “Sarge!”

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Isn’t the internet awesome!? Spineless yellow-bellies like yourself would never talk to anyone like that in real life. It’s nice to hide behind an encrypted connection isn’t it?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Come on Sarge, how do you really feel big boy? Is it true the Marine code includes engaging in butt fucking chains while you sing God Bless Amurika?

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            No that would be false.

        • THIS SAYS IT ALL !

          Judge Jeanine Gives Hillary A VERBAL BEATDOWN! – ‘Every Time She Opens Her Mouth, She Lies’…
          By Bob Amoroso on in Politics

          The following excerpt is from an article that originally appeared on US Herald
          Scroll down for video

          It’s become almost universal acknowledgment even within the most liberal establishments that Hillary is a pathological liar.

          Which once again prompted Judge Jeanine Pirro to exclaim: “Every time
          she opens her mouth, she lies. I don’t think she even knows the
          difference between the truth and a lie,” Judge Jeanine said.

          The comment was made on Fox’s “Hannity” show were the good judge
          appeared last night, and once again predicted that the FBI would
          recommend a criminal referral to the Obama Justice Department, where it
          will eventually die.

          Pirro got into the weeds pointing out the numerous inconsistencies
          within the changing narrative surrounding Hillary’s emails, and her
          claims as Secretary of State that she was allowed to use private emails
          for sensitive government business, when obviously she was not, or that
          someone gave her permission to do so.
          Pirro continued her verbal assault: “This woman

          Click here to Read this Entire Story on US Herald

      • Who is David Duke supporting?

        • David Duke came out the next day after that false story and condemned the media. Will Quigg of the CA. chapter of the KKK is supporting Hillary and that’s not a false story. The KKK has also donated to Hillary’s campaign. Nice try, Skippy!!

          • HORSE SHIT,mac12sam12!!

          • You are a sad sad individual Bill you have to up vote yourself to make it seem like you are important in which case you are not you never even responded to logic and factual statements I threw at you in another discussion.

            Yet here you are sucking down more obama o’s and probably drinking his ass gravy with a spoon and trying to act like your cool calling other people out who have more intelligence than you.

          • You can find Duke’s statement on YouTube. Yahoo search engine, “KKK donates to Hillary” also, Will Quigg of the CA. KKK endorses Hillary

          • Something that might interest you !

            Another one bite’s the dust ~!!!!!!

            http://libertyalliance.com/witness-mysteriously-dies-testifying-hillary/

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Again, not a big Trump fan but now that it is solidified as a Hillary v Trump race – I’d sooner die than vote for that corrupt liar hellion Clinton… So, looks like Trump will be the only option since we know all the media led sheep won’t vote for any of the better options we had. However, here it is straight from the horses mouth.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avfxe5fbkI4

            Duke never endorsed Trump, he just agreed with his “vetting” immigration reform. You know who agrees with that? Someone that most whites probably view as the most racist black person in America, one of the founding fathers of the New Black Panther Party, founder of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bai0w3eU04

            Context is always important to consider… and proof that PC media is, how’d you say, oh yeah “HORSE SHIT!”

          • Skippy?,
            Really Mac? The KKK guy in California got pissed at the GOP and supported Hillary out of spite, get a grip Mac-google KKK and you will get more than https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9203a06691cc6d9af5e611f2386236aedcd9ae4155baeb3a364e3a4a9a388348.jpg 10K hits for for trump

            Nice try Mac-keep fantasizing!

          • Man, I wish we had nice silk hoods like that. Must be the Brentwood chapter.

          • Will Quigg and the KKK support and donated to Hillary because the democrat party is the party of the KKK and the stars and bars.

          • Google Hillary and KKK Mac, you get a hundred hits of the same story. We have been down this road before-are you a gluten for punishment and embarrassment?
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4058d766f692029665a94c42b93fe8f517568e6e1ca7022fdb06a1657eb0cef3.jpg

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            I prefer a gluten-free punishment myself. 😀

          • Hillary hates the NRA, after the Civil War the NRA protected and provided weapons to the slaves to protect themselves from their former democrat slave owners. Hating the NRA is in the democrats DNA. Clinton’s mentor was William Fulbright and Fulbright along with KKK recruiter Robert Byrd fought to save the JIM Crow laws and filibustered the Civil Rights Act. Like I said, the democrat party is the party of the stars and bars. Slap slap.

          • Too bad that’s an ancient spin on history and has little to do with the here and now.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            In technicality what both sides of the debate has to say is true.

            Yes the democratic south was opposed to the republicans and the union. Yes, republican president Lincoln has socialist ideals while also being a total tax whore. Yes, the south initially seceded because of taxes not slaves. It is true that slavery was not an issue at the onset of the war but only after the book Uncle Tom’s Cabin. Yes, Lincoln freed southern slaves in an attempt to cripple the Confederate army because the north was losing it’s shirt. It is true that the north did not emancipate slaves and many Union states did not put “slave laws” on the books until later even though it had always had certain bans (which disallowed the purchase of new slaves but the trade of existing slaves was okay). Yes the KKK was originally formed to protect southern families from the torture, rape, and murderous actions of Union solders that had been installed as Sheriffs and Wardens across the Confederate states and originally had nothing to do with anti-black racial violence. Yes, the NRA was a minute-man type gun running establishment created initially by the north to arm disenfranchised black runaways in the south in an attempt to further destabilize the south. The truth of the matter is that it was all politics as usual and Lincoln and Davis had their own agendas as always. Of course, history is told by the winner but if Davis were a traitor why was he secretly tried and released? It’s all bullshit! The mover and shakers can say anything they want, and as long as they repeat it for two generations only crazy old coots will remember the truth and no one will believe them.

            If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to accept it as the truth. ~Joseph Goebbels

            As far as here and now, all normal thinking people need to quit following all leaders that represent extremist ideology – left, right, sideways, or backwards doesn’t matter. The extreme left is as dangerous as the extreme right and vice versa. There are no winners in extremism. We need to stop trying to rationalize “which extreme is better.” Sure for conservatives the extreme right seems better and for liberals extreme left seems better – both sides are wrong – no extreme is better and arguing to support it is futile since you will always have a few that agree but most will disagree.

            Sadly, it looks like the election is rigged in extremes this go around. Especially with who the media and parties are pushing at us. Hopefully that independent silent majority will weigh in on the write ins. It would be amazing to see Americans thinking and see like a 5 or 6 way split in the national ballot final tally.

          • Yes it does, Jimmy Crow.

          • Jimmy Crow? Quite funny since it’s the same party of Jimmy Carter and he was was no racist or member of the KKK.

            Do you live for embarrassment? I believe that Rick and I are starting to fell embarrassed for you……………
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/274e201905c284e97e49382bd2011e78bc7e1dcb72a3539df877bc761cd1f598.jpg

          • Muslim isn’t a race, numb nuts.

          • Ok.. now you just proved you don’t know anything about history.. At one time the Democratic party might have been the “party of the Southern Racist” but that changed with Nixon’s Southern Strategy old white men that were against the change the Democrats wanted to make for Civil Rights drove those Old white men out of the Democratic party into the waiting arms of Nixon and his crony’s.. The KKK today is an arm of the GOP and nothing you can say makes it any less true.

          • Heard that before, they magically changed hands. The KKK is not an arm of the republican party otherwise they wouldn’t be donating to Hillary. Hillary also hates the NRA which provided weapons to the former slaves. Democrat=stars and bars.

          • Just because you say it does not make it true
            . The Bigots and Racist Vote republican. And you can’t Deny the Truth”.

          • Bigots and racists vote democrat. If you look at the number of crimes committed by blacks on whites on the FBI website it shows who the real racists are. Last time I checked blacks vote democrat. What they don’t realize is that they’re still picking cotton.

          • You and Bizarro Superman would be great friends. You both have everything ass backwards.

          • You’re saying that whites are more racist? You can check it out for yourself.

          • Should not have to say it should be pretty clear to our Great same that they are

          • Oh ! just b/c you say bigots and racists vote republican we are supposed to believe you ? Truth is most conservatives white or non white are fighting for a safe free America and against the dam owo bastards !

          • Really?? not what I saw at the Trump/Klan Rally in SC a few weeks ago. Saw more Stars and Bars there then in the last Civil War reenactment. Trump has made it pretty clear. his “Make America Great again” means Make America White again

          • Some of us are not brain dead , brain washed, and are perceptive enough to read between the lines of you’re comrade’s speech’s, AND JEALOUS OF ALL THE WHITES AND ALL WHOM CAME AFTER (NON WHITE) WHO HELPED TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT! All those who burn, spit, attack, Trump voters and the American flag can go to hell ! GO BREXIT !!!!!! WE WILL FOLLOW !!!!!!!! AMERICA; LOVE IT OR LEAVE………….

          • WHY OF COURSE, I NEVER EXPECTED YOU AND YOURE’S TOO LISTEN, HOWEVER EXPECT THE SAME, WE ALL READ THE POST’S GIVING THE CHANCE FOR YOU TO EXPRESS YOU’RE VIEW BUT ALL YOU CAN DONATE ARE ALIEN COMMENT’S !

          • It’s OK effie,
            Get back on your med’s and put the hat back on and you can rant with the cap lock key on tomorrow.
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          • For starters the tin hat is getting old and I hope you are getting paid enough to continue you’re propaganda against America, as far as caps go, I use them when I don’t want to waste time on punctuation ect ; Curious whom will you vote for as If I need to ask? As far as fighting over the internet goe’s I don’t consider it as that however I’m sure you are equipped with the tools you will need, to me It seems like the cowards way as so many get caught in this like the chem trails, gmo’s, you know weapons of slow death to the population, hell even OUR CHILDREN, funny you all don’t seem to be complaining ABOUT THAT, AND YOU BEING SO SMART MUST KNOW WHOM MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE !! Elaborate! Meds,don’t touch them not even for pain, but if America goes down might have to to discover the bliss of ignorance !!!!

          • Oh we love it and we would be happy to take up a collection to pay for you LEAVING IT because it very clear you don’t understand it. When Trump runs for CON MAN of the United States I might think about voting for him.. But NEVER POTUS. Really going to enjoy his concession speech in November if he has the Guts to give one (Which I doubt he will) I be sure to record it and post it on these website so you can “SUCK IT”

          • It’s so unfortunate that when those who turn on the light do not realize they see only part of the roaches not even trying to consider that there are so many more whom only care about the riches they feel they will gain while these roaches will do anything to see that whites, black, pink, purple except them will be slaves and in the process further destroy America until there is nothing left to live off while all of their muted robots running after the humanoids left are non existent. Remember the old comic books years back when some thought it is all make believe, well we see now that isn’t so. Most of the new generations so easily believe the propaganda and a generation lost as they have not a clue that they are but puppets on a string ( being used) by the very one’s they follow all they know how to do is spew hate with vile mouths no morals what so ever: I mean that must sound familiar as we look at other third world’s whom have followed these tactics and now they are lambs just headed to the slaughter and will never at least know the meaning of freedom ! There will not be protection for the generations ahead from the generation of past anymore ! Explain to me why you think Trump will not have the guts to make any speech, to me just putting his life on the line for most of the jokers in this world is more than enough guts! Because he wants his family and rest of society to survive and America back , since you know it all , how would you go about un doing all the wrong that is destroying the only country left !

          • ok.. 1. Trump is complete unqualified. He is has been sued so many times for not paying his bills and seems to think that he can solve all the problems by telling the treasure to “PRINT MORE MONEY” His quote by the way.
            2. He does not gave a damn about anyone but Trump. He has a foul mouth Temper and has shown he has a problem of not thinking before he speaks. HE IS A BULLY. and a Narcissist who thanks he stuff does not stink. He would not have any of his wives if he did not have his stolen wealth.
            3. This one is your biggest misconception. People like TRUMP ARE what is wrong with the country. He has no respect for half the the American Population. Mental illness is the only thing I can come up with for a reason that a woman would ever vote for him because of his comments. As to the Misconception part.. NO ONE can UN Do the things you think are destroying the country because we don’t agree on what it is that doing it. I believe complete in the Statements made in the Declaration of independence. That all men (and Women) are created equal. I believe in the Bill of Rights that people have the right to their opinions (even if they are wrong). That they have a right to their Religion (or freedom to not have a religion). That no one gets the Right to say some else’s beliefs are no less Valid then theirs. That they can live the life as they see fit as long as that life does no hurt to others. That citizen has the Right to cast a vote without a political party trying to stop those they think won’t vote for them. That the right to live a life without worry that my loved ones won’t be gunned down when they go to a Mall, or Theater. A night club to go dancing. They have the right not to have some Nutjob that had easy access to a assault Rifle take their lives from them. That Government is designed to do the things individuals can do by themselves with worry about is it “Making money in the end”. That there has to be a separation of church and State because we have seen all over the Middle East what happens when there isn’t one. If I want to Worship the Great Spirit of my Cherokee Ancestors its no less valid then your christian beliefs but when you insist that the country has to follow the Law of the Bible you are trying to force me to follow your beliefs. So you see your last question can’t be answered because unless you understand the purpose and Meaning behind the Constitution then you have no idea what the problems are. To me the biggest problem is we are trapped into the terrible idea that he who has the cash makes the rules. Which is just what Thomas Jefferson wrote about has his greatest Fear. So if the guy that was one of the founding fathers was concerned about it why the heck aren’t you.

          • First of all; I am very aware and concerned about the constitution as well as the communist manifesto and any abomination against the constitution, flag America !I am aware of every problem there is In America and have been since a young child.and have been active since no matter what was in the way.There are things that each and everyone can do to get this country back; the problem is too many do not put work into doing research on all candidates for the presidency .I would like to see evidence you refer to on the accusation’s against Trump, I will check it out! I don’t trust anyone in politics and no one is perfect, However I see something In Trump and he is not an insider and in no one’s pocket. I would like to know you.re input as to why you think Trump is not qualified. Also whom do you feel is forcing you’re beliefs to the bible? I might mention terms of the bible at times but that is my right to freedom of speech and to get a point across; Many people are aware of the fact that the far left and some on the right that has destroyed many of the foundations America Is founded upon, It happens every day! Some of us aware of this act of treason work to remove those who do this by way of votes, petitions volunteering in many ways as freedom is not free!!! Protecting America is protecting all. We cannot dismiss what is happening in 3rd world as It is also happening here like the Orlando shootings and much more that is not reported ! This election ( if to be) is too important to waste a single vote as they steal the election as in past election. The far left OWO people are paying poor minorities blacks, white ect; to pit all against each other for the purpose to further their agenda requiring marshal law as a false flag to end the elections and many lives as they have a new army to be released and whom do you think the new army will consist of ? Tell me! No one is exempt from nomads ! This is the last chance for a free America !!! ” UNITED WE STAND” ” DEVIEDED WE FALL”

          • Ok that’s it.. Not going to care on a discuss anymore with a conspiracy nutjob. Or maybe you could be Right. I bet he has those plans in the Same Warehouse that also holds all those Guns he has seized in the last 7 years.

          • I think printing more money was a quote from Obama..

          • Yes they do this all the time hoping the sheeple will take it hook, line and sinker !!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            That’s SC – and a lot of the American Southerners. Funny thing though, to most of those people (not specifying the Trumpeters but Southerners) who come from southern bloodlines that served in the Confederate Army – that flag is a symbol of pride and America’s unwillingness to budge under tyranny – even if it is domestic tyranny. To that number my hat goes off to the rebels – fight against unlawful taxes and for your state’s rights! Hell yeah! It’s good to raise some hell once in a while! Keeps the government in check.

            Now for those that fly that flag under the misguided conception that the Civil War STARTED out about slavery (not almost two years into the war – at which point I believe the lines were already drawn) and you think you are cool for using psychological abuse to attempt to mentally oppress others and bring them down — big shame on you scumbag.

            However, I am against the “ban” on the Confederate flag and all that other nonsense. First and foremost – if you think it represents racism and slavery – fine… Good job then on teaching people to forget the mistakes of their history thusly dooming them to repeat them. Clearly there will be no lesson learned in the modernist world. Second, it violates free speech and free expression. If you make the Southerners take down the Stars and Bars, then Muslim radicals should not be allowed to wave ISIS flags nor should gays be allowed to display rainbow flags (I do not feel that way – just pointing out that we should not discriminate; even if against those that would discriminate against you – tit for tat is never right). Most liberals thought it was cute that people were unable to order a Confederate flag cake but bought ISIS Flag cakes, Black Panthers Cakes, and Swastika Cakes at Wal-Mart, showing support and that it mildly entertained them. However, reveling in a victory such as that is not the greatest. What happens when a lawyer finds the loophole in the same laws used to oppress “proud Confederate Southerners” are turned against once of your movements. — And I assure you, it is only a matter of time.

            One oppressive law – oppresses all of America.

            (Rick – the whole of this comment is not directed at you but the conversation in general. Be careful arguing with those void of logical processes)

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC) My Great Grand Father many time removed fought with the Kershaw’s Brigade At Gettysburg. he was mention in Ken Burns “Civil War” a number of times. In his Letters and Diaries he makes it clean most of they people who fought thought they were Defending their homes. They did not own Slaves and some of them Disliked having to compete against the plantation owners that did own them. So when people say its not about Slavery I agree with a small part of that argument. I use to look at that Flag and think it was about history as well. Till one day a African American friend ask me ” I know your not Racist so why do you have that Flag” When I gave him the reason he said “I understand” but .. To my ancestors That flag has been used as a symbol of hate and oppression. Its the flag the Klan Flies at their rallies. Its for a country that said we were not equal to a white man.” That was when I started look at it thru his eyes and realized the best place for that flag was to leave it to history.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Don’t believe this rim job of an excuse for a person. This “person” spews hatred and sedition against our great liberal nation! Go away bigot!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            You called another bigot while delivering a bigoted message that sounded similar to the ravings of Goebbels. Good job on the hypocrisy! “Your great liberal nation,” anyone who offends you must go! Awesome… The deep left sounds precisely like the far right. You sound just like Donald Trump!!! Let me ask – will you deport the bigots? ROFL! Build a 50ft wall to keep them out!!! HAHAHAAAA!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Dr Phil says, “You behave like you hate the far right because they mirror the image of yourself that exists deep inside. You don’t really hate the far right, but you hate yourself for loving it’s ideologies that you know are wrong. That is why you displace your anger against those that you believe embody the things — that you know you agree with — but you hate yourself for feeling that way about it.”

          • You are denying the truth. Will Quigg of the KKK endorsed Hillary and the KKK has donated to her campaign. Want more examples of lefts wing racism? Bill Clinton on a hot mike to Ted Kennedy. A few years ago this guy would have been serving my coffee when tailing about Obama. Harry Reid, Obama is a good looking negro with no negro dialect. Biden talking about Obama, he’s very clean. The democrats are more racist so no moral high ground for you.

          • I grow up in North Carolina and Virginia. I saw racism every day. The only thing it has to do with political parties is that for some reason alot more of them are coming out to Support Trump then they are to support any Democrat. In a way we owe TRUMP a Bit of thanks. He threw on the Kitchen Light so we could see the Cockroaches.

          • Black on white crime is 11 times higher than white on black crime. Who are the racists? What did Trump ever say that was racist? You’re the typical liberal, race obsessed and trying to secure the moral high ground. It’s the cockroaches that vote democrat.

          • You are aware that there are more kinds of racism the Black and White right? Direct quote from the DUMP..

            “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”

          • Instead of arguing with you on this just going to let the video and Pictures of do all the speaking for me. The Video is from a Trump rally and the Picture is of a Campaign billboard for someone Running for Congress.

            http://newcenturytimes.com/2016/06/22/go-fuing-make-my-tortilla-trump-supporter-goes-berserk-on-latino-protester-video/

            http://newschannel9.com/news/local/congressional-candidates-controversial-billboard-has-polk-county-abuzz

            OH and by the way after Rick Tyler pull his website after this hit social media but Google has reference to it all over the web

          • Outrage over cosy=ting taxpayers $150 billion a year. That’s not racism. Ever see the comments from liberals when there’s a black conservative candidate? They’re called Uncle Toms, the house negro or the republican lawn jockey.

          • So what do you call someone that sides with the Group that is trying to make it difficult for other african Americans to vote. And don’t give me its to protect against voter fraud becasue thats a myth and I can pull quotes from more then One republican that its to keep them out of the voting booth.

          • Making it difficult to vote, you mean voter ID like every other country in the world?

          • for about 200 years the only thing need to vote in this country was a voter Registation car or name on the voter Rolls. The Republicans have made up this fiction problem because the don’t want to accept the Majority of Americans DON”T agree with them and this is the only way they can get in office by shrinking the number of people voting.. IT is a historical Fact that Republicans ONLY win when there are low turn out elections.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrjBdEFYeB4

            To my misfortune this is out of my home state.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87NN5sdqNt8

            From out of the mouths of Republicans THE REAL REASON

          • Or how about a former Chief of staff of a Republican State Senator

            http://isthmus.com/opinion/madland/republicans-were-giddy-about-suppressing-voters/

          • Let’s put it this way, if you’re too stupid to get an ID you’re too stupid to vote. They claim they don’t have ID’s and yet you need an ID for driving and banking. The democrats protect them because they know that dishonest people vote democrat.

          • Love how you don’t deny why they passed the bogus laws

          • Voter ID is not a bogus law and prevents voter fraud.

          • from 2000 to 2006 roughly over 196 million votes were cast. In that time there were 86 case of proven voter fraud. That’s .00004%. So you have a solution for something that is not a problem. But here is the problem all these states that passed laws had Republican Legislatures and Republican Governors. Estimates are there are about 20 million American Citizens that don’t have any of the Required Type of Photo ID these laws require. I Texas for example If a woman has a Photo id in her Maiden name she is not allowed to vote unless its in her maiden name. Add to the fact that in large turn out elections in the last 20 years no republican has won when there is a large Voter turn out. There are more registered Democrats then their are Republicans. And with Trump that number of republicans is shrinking even faster. Plus add in the fact that Gallup poll just
            released Job approval ratings ( You know those things Fox news like to quote when they are low for the president.

          • I think that there’s more fraud than that. Voter ID with a current ID shouldn’t be a problem.

          • As I said there are about 20 million US citizens that don’t have what would be considered a acceptable Voter Id. Some never Drive, Some have given up their Drivers License. A number of states require id that has complete uptoday information like if you just got married and changed her last name but its not on her id. Yet she can’t vote. Sorry this is a bogus law and Every Time I hear someone pushing it Takes me back to the Old Cold War Movies.. With the Evil Soviet ask “Papers.. Papers please.” If your one of the one that wants to follow the consititution so much how about showing me where it says you have to have a Valid ID to vote in an election.

          • It’s against the law not to have a valid ID. If a cop stops you he’s suppose to believe who you say you are? No ID, no vote, and if you were honest you’d admit that people who are too stupid to get an ID votes democrat. All other countries have ID’s requirements for voting. You also know that illegals would and do take advantage of it. A lot of cities give you one for free if you provide a birth certificate and an SS number.

          • you might want to bone up on your constitutional Law there bud.. IT is not against the law to not have a valid ID. And unless a cop has seen you commit a crime or you match the description where this is no reasonable doubt your who he is looking for he has no right to ask you for that ID and you have no requirement to provide it unless you are driving a car. As for Free.. The state of North Carolina past one of these bogus laws and they charge 25 dollars for an ID. Requiring an Photo Id that much be paid for is a Poll tax which is illegal.

          • If someone commits a crime and it’s reported to the police and they stop him, the police are supposed to believe him without a valid ID? Sure. Funny, a lefty talking about the constitution.

          • Police can hold someone on suspicion if the person matches the Description. They can’t hold someone because he does not have an id in his pocket. Unless your driving a car you do not have to produce ID to a police officer. This has been confirmed time and time again in court cases. In fact if the detain a person and it turns out that was not the Suspect they can sue for false arrest. Oh it it should not be so funny We believe in what the constitution says.. Your side believes in what you want it to be. Big difference.

          • How do these people do their banking without an ID or receive welfare? How do they rent an apartment without an ID? If you don’t have an ID you’re an illegal, get a clue.

          • Don’t see how you can support a program that has had republican after republican do interviews and go on TV and say “the reason is to keep people that would not vote for us from voting.” It is the most disgusting thing I can find. So let me tell you what is more then likely to happen. Hillary is going to win. There is a very good chance that the Republicans will lose the Senate. In the near future Hillary will appoint 2 maybe 3 Supreme Court Justices. When that happens The ACLU will Sue every state with a Voter ID Law. This New Supreme Court will rule that Voter ID laws are unconstitutional. They will also over turn Citizens United. There will then be a class action suit against of number of states. Most Likely Florida and they gerrymandered districts which this new court will also find in unconstitutional. And then The republicans will go the way of the WHIG party.

          • Bottom line, if you can’t get an ID it’s because you’re an illegal. So if an ID is not required, I can vote in multiple towns? Yep. You don’t see the chaos this will cause? Why are you a democrat? Obama has set record numbers, all of them record lows. Do my taxes fund your lifestyle? Are you one of the 47%?

          • Well you are pretty much wrong about all that you said.. But its your right to be wrong. I just don’t have to go along with it and will do everything I can to work to make sure that anyone with the (R) behind there names (with one exception) will be on the unemployment Line after November Elections.

          • We already have 750,000-1,000,000 a month going to the unemployment line. That’s Obama’s record and Hillary is running on Obama’s third term

          • IMPEACH HITLERY !!!!!!! AND ALL THE REST OF THE BASTARDS DESTROYING AMERICA !!!!!!!

          • only ones that are destroying america are the ones that keep sending do nothings to congress term after Term..

          • THE PROBLEM IS the regime wants all whom are illegal to have a voter id so they can vote for the anti-american far left AMERICA DESTROYER’S; It’s not bad enough that they find all ways against the constitution to steal votes !!!!!!

          • You’re video’s are only one of few as compared to the far left brain dead and you know it, like i said and been proven that these people are payed as you are on here to make it look like it is Trump who is causing the progression of a racism affect to start wars in the streets to provoke matters so the people you follow will have an excuse FOR THE REGIME to start martial law and meant to not only kill the innocent but the people you follow will make sure you go down also. YES WE THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT IS REALLY WRONG AND THOSE HIRED TO INCITE THIS AS THEY KNOW TRUMP WILL PUT ALL THEIR ASSES IN JAIL ARE FINALLY FED UP AND ABOUT DAM TIME !!!!! SEE NOW !” GOOGLE HAS REFERENCE TO IT ALL OVER THE WORLD ! TELL ME WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT GOOGLE?? ENLIGHTEN ME PA LEASEEEE !!

          • Actually since he is never going to hold an elected office he won’t be putting any one in Jail. How the hell can you even consider a vote from someone that won’t reveal his tax returns. There is only one reason not to and thats because it will show something that he thinks well Damage his “image” One other thing . Why is it that you think people have honest Objections to protest Trump (and there are millions that do) are paid and not doing it out of the outrage that a modern political party would even consider a man like this.

          • Why DO I have the nerve to think there are millions being paid to cause division, kill cops, toss cars, use profanity constantly, can’t answer questions when asked, want everything for free, b/c I have proof ! Im intelligent, I believe in God and the Son and most of all believe in freedom. As opposed to the fact also that they are stupid, they are brainwashed, as an agenda to promote a sharia law , they lie and are stupid enough to believe their lies and worse they are stupid enough to believe they will not be approached by the sword as they think they will not be exempt !!! You are one as you believe the lie’s, what you hear , read and walk in lock step of the very enemy and are jealous of America and how hard most Americans work to save people like you from starving and all above !! Why don’t you use all that anger wherever it comes from to save you’re ASS and children if you have any, In the end ; No where to run, no where to hide !!!

          • LOVED THAT BILLBOARD !!!!!!

          • only thing to love was that it showed the Direction that the Republican party is heading for. Its no wonder Minorities don’t vote GOP

          • Let’s try some simple math. Maybe that won’t go over your head. http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-trump-hispanic-latino-vote-hillary-clinton-2016-7

          • LiberalismaDisease!!!

            Let’s try to have some common sense you Liberal Moron!

            Crooked evil lying Hillary below.

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          • LiberalismaDisease!!!

            Grab a broom stick Rick Rogers because you’ll need it in November when you leave America!

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          • you poor soul.. you don’t understand how truly disturbed you are. Did you read Trumps Art of the Deal? You know the part where he is quoted that you tell them the same lie until they believe it. ??

          • LiberalismaDisease!!!

            Start say PRESIDENT TRUMP! We comin you can’t do nothing you little weak cowardly liberal fool…PRESIDENT TRUMP ART OF SAVING AMERICA from Liberal socialist morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c512c1ebfae4bd9f192802c20a494da5db5ac34200b0299a9fa0f8f55ba8b0d9.jpg

          • You know the funny thing.. Only people that click on that are the ones that Agree.. If you had a DISLIKE Button on there you would be blown away. The only poll that shows trump anything but Behind Hillary is the one that called the Election for Romney they day before the election. .Nothing gets people out vote more then To have the chance to make sure we don’t spend 4 years under a Fascist Tyrant. I can’t wait on for the debates because Trump won’t have his hand picked Moderators and The League of women voters who Sponser the Debates don’t put up with the kind of crap he pull on the “Friendly debate stage” he had when he out yelled the other losers.

          • The KKK and the Orlando Terrorist were all Democrats

          • “The KKK and the Orlando Terrorist were all Democrats”
            That really is a special kind of stupid, got any facts to back that up? was the KKK involved in the Orlando attack?

          • Remember Robert Byrd?
            Orlando killer’s father held meetings at the White House … ??????
            itsallaboutmuhammad.com/…killers-father-held-meetings-white-house
            The father of the Orlando killer and outspoken supporter of the Taliban, … has also been a guest at Obama’s White House and Hillary’s State Department.

          • Do you mean Born: November 20, 1917, North Wilkesboro, NC
            Died: June 28, 2010, Fairfax, VA? Robert Carlyle “Bob” Byrd was a United States Senator from West Virginia. A member of the Democratic Party, Byrd served as a U.S. Representative from 1953 until 1959 and as a U.S. Senator from 1959 to 2010?

            Yes, Old school democratic member of the KKK for from the 1930-1950s?

            Did someone freeze dry you back in the 1960’s and recently thaw you out? If you could poll KKK members today, they would be a majority GOP member as they are evangelical as the Klan preaches it’s own warped brand of Christianity.

            Eisenhower was the last real republican president and Kennedy was the last real democratic president.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            That is true – Pillar of the Fiery Cross Church and they have a publication, “Heroes of the Fiery Cross.” As well as their own edition of the Bible (it emphasizes a lot of Jesus being a white Nazarene from Greece with straw colored hair and blue eyes, slavery, and how God made whites superior to all other races (thus the gift of Christ is bestowed on the gentile).

            I doubt there is really any one party majority in a group with roughly 1500 active members nationwide.

            I’ll agree with your presidential observation, I’ll also add in that I feel Carter and Reagan were the last “elected” US presidents (democratically anyway). Everyone else since seemed hand picked in advance. I think Carter and Reagan (with all their flaws) frightened the establishment.

            Democrats and Republicans need to both keep in mind the meaning of our party namesakes and the importance both serve to the nation. Democracy and the Republic are the basis of America’s liberty. We need to quit squabbling like the media talking heads want and unify against those that would oppress us. At the end of the day, we’re still neighbors, coworkers, friends, and family.

          • Primary Day, March 8, 1988

            Candidate Affiliation Support Outcome
            Jesse Jackson Democratic 221,522 (35%) Won Louisiana
            Al Gore Democratic 174,971 (28%) Lost Louisiana
            Michael Dukakis Democratic 95,661 (15%) Lost Louisiana
            Dick Gephardt Democratic 67,029 (11%) Lost Louisiana
            Gary Hart Democratic 26,437 (4%) Lost Louisiana
            David Duke Democratic 23,391 (4%) Lost Louisiana
            Others Democratic 16,008 (3%) Lost Louisiana

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            The KKK was formed by white southern democrats in opposition to the vastly mixed race republicans. (In 1865 at least) In the 1990’s it was heralded as the “terrorist wing” of the Democratic left. So the roots in the Democratic party are historically present and it’s anti-Republican agenda is clear.

            The fallacy of the idea is this: it does not mean in any way that all, most, many, some, few, or any modern day Democrats are in the Klan or support the Klan. The SPLU is also technically a Democratic organization and lists the Klan as a terrorist hate group. The DP is a huge group of people (about 1/3 of the nation so over 100 million people) the Klan has maybe 1500 active members today… That is a fraction of a fraction of a percent – if anything. The argument is moot both ways. Besides they are fringe idiots anyway.

            I don’t think the Orlando terrorist can be assigned to any political party, and even if he is, who cares? Again, just a fringe nutbag being insane. Neither you nor I are responsible for his actions, nor could any of us do anything about it, so arguing over that is a waste of time.

            Extremists will be extremists… Unfortunately, the Constitutional freedoms that protect those that use their freedoms responsibly also protect fringe whackos alike. It is tough to tell when crazy becomes dangerous in an immediately life threatening manner. Since nutjobs can randomly crack, there is little to no method of anticipation in real life scenarios.

            In hind sight all is 20/20…

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Bam!

          • Also Saudi Arabia has come out and said that 20% of her funding is from them which is a political no no accepting money like that from a foreign country but no one will do shit to stop her and her illegal bullshit

        • Who cares?

        • Here’s something that might interest you !

          Brigitte Gabriel gives FANTASTIC answer to Muslim woman claiming all Muslims are portrayed badly » T

          http://www.you tube.com

          • There was noting but a deleted website on your link.

          • I found this half wit with another half wit (Jimmy Swagger) on Youtube. You really need to find a legintimate source of information on Islam as that was comical and bad.

            Brigitte Gabriel, born October 21, 1964, is a conservative American journalist, author, political lecturer, anti-Islamic extremism activist, and founder of two non-profit political organizations, the American Congress For Truth and ACT! for America.

            Both backed and supported by right wing christian groups.

            This comes from Google, not me.

      • right.YOU,OfcShane,are Badly in Need of Good Psychiatric Care…Perhaps a Prescription for the Strongest Possible Formulation of Thorazine and for Unlimited Injections of it will Control your Outbursts of Paranoid Schizophrenia.

      • Michael Dennewitz

        Thanks for your sacrifice Of Shane.. FTG3 on board USS Boxer, LPH4 during Nam..

      • Top, I agree with you emphatically about the LGBT supporting Mr. Trump, but there is point to be considered. LGBT is made up of what? Queers, lezzies, and a group calling themselves bi-sexuals. How does a bi-sexual decide which way he or she is going to be on a given day? Do they flip a coin the first of every morning? I admit, when I was in the Corps in the early 70’s, we didn’t have to deal with political correctness. Queers were the guests of honor at blanket parties, but now, we are forced to protect their widely stretched asses from themselves. There simply is no logical reason for good Marines, soldiers and sailors.I think it is a waste of manpower to protect someone who wears his skivvies backwards and has a nosebleed every 28 days. Sgt. USMC

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          ROFL! Yes Jarhead, Master Guns, I hate being called Gunny and Drill Sergeant (but most of them don’t know – they’re just inexperienced civies, [shrugs] the fact that they try to show respect is a nice gesture) However, “Top,” is typically used in reference to a MSgt or 1st Sgt., the E-8. I was operational E-9 MGySgt., equivalent (probably not the best choice of words) to an administrative Sergeant Major – which I valued my life enough never to actually say those words in front of any Sergeant Majors. I assume, by the reference to “Top” – that places you in the Desert Shield/Storm era of US military deployment or a little before running back to Vietnam/post-Vietnam era. I usually don’t get into it with people about it on the internet because so few seem to know or understand it.

          (I started writing this before reading your whole post – ” I admit, when I was in the Corps in the early 70’s” LOL! Then decided to leave it for the sake of gloating my own observation skills)

          I used to share your view about gays, for maybe 80%+ of my life. I was very bigoted – downright mean. I mean, my generation didn’t have any good words for gays, and even gay was used as an insult – I still do it sometimes in place of “that sucks” I’ll say “that’s gay.” Believe me, I had words that described every detail of the deviancy I felt being gay was. After I got back from OEF I ended up homeless and was taken in by a Muslim man who got me a place and I had to share it with his gay Filipino best friend. Talk about culture shock. I learned that it is difficult to know people through generalizations and sometimes the ones you hate most will be the ones to show you mercy and kindness when no one else will. Maybe my story is uncommon but it changed my perspective.

          Now, bi-sexuals – they are just greedy! LOL! That is sexually deviant – I call it how I see it. They just want sex with any warm body that will give it up.

          However, real gays, like 100% into the opposite sex, that isn’t a choice, it can’t be. AND I can illustrate that in one simple question, I’ll even make it multiple choice:

          Have you ever just woke up in the morning and thought to yourself: “Man I can’t think of anything better than having some hairy assed dude slap his hog into my mouth and have his way with my cornhole as I feel his immense hairy eggs slapping against mine?”

          1. Yes
          2. Maybe
          3. No
          4. HELL NO! That thought makes me want to puke my f*cking guts out!!!

          If you answered “4” then you are a heterosexual. Congratulations, you are a healthy part of 97% of society. However, for a gay man, it is the opposite.

          If I say, “Have you ever dreamed of having a gorgeous big boobed hottie, with a perfect breast, waist, hip, ass, leg ratio, climbing on top of you and riding you like a wild stallion until sunrise?” – and you answer “4” you are definitely a gay man.

          There really is no choice in that preference is there? I mean since considering the alternative is really a non-option. So, I believe in gay at birth, or during early sexual development, something gets crossed. The body is one sex while the libido craves the same sex. Although the science is watery at this point, I am sure that one day we will hear a story about scientists finding the gay gene – then we will hear about religious fanatics demanding the serum so they can ride around in pick-up trucks with banjo music playing shooting queers with inoculations in tranq-darts. Then there will be the opposite story of Bruce Jenner where some gay guy will receive treatments and become straight and marry some awesomely hot chick that makes all us “always straight guys” rabidly jealous. LOL! (of course she’ll divorce him after the tv fame fades but hey – hell of a way to start off being straight LMAO!)

          Blanket parties – Jesus, so happy I never screwed anything up that bad in boot to piss off everyone in my bunk to point that they want to beat the tar out of me. I mean, I had my share of run-ins with Drill Sergeants but thank God nothing that warranted any special attention beyond a good scolding, some rhetorical questions, and yelling “YES-DRILL-SER-GEANT!!!” — and moving my ass as fast as God’s will allowed. I caught the tail end of those days, just like school, caught the tail end of teachers slapping you in the mouth and with pointers – and parents/neighbors kicking your ass when you’re a kid! Don’t ask don’t tell and all that… I was in the final generation of that stuff. When my little brother was about 12 is when it became illegal in many states to spank your kids and all that.

          I am not sure what your experience may have been but we had a fairy in the 1/6 – but he was okay. We razzed him pretty hard but he could take it. He was tough and a good Marine. Now, if they are so effeminate that it gets in the way of their duties as an US soldier – then absolutely – it is ridiculous to let them stay “just because they are gay.” They should receive no special treatments either – just like a lady Marine. Those Wookies are tough as nails! Also, if the gay person’s conduct is unbecoming of the US Military Uniform Code and they infringe on the personal rights of their fellow soldiers according to the UCMJ, like unwanted sexual advances or contact, non-consensual sodomy, indecent assault, or outright rape… then again, that is what SAPRO is for now.

          I have to say that honestly, a certain bigoted set of old feelings I have says that if they are granted a position of authority they should be watched closely – being they are in charge of a large group of the finest young men (and women – but mostly men) the nation has – who are in their prime and peak physical condition. That is like expecting a cock in a hen house to keep his cool. However, I have been in many situations in life where a totally beautiful (usually drunk) woman wanted to have sex with me while I was on duty somewhere and I restrained myself – even if I would not have in a different set of circumstances.

          The US Military, especially the Corps, has it’s way of making itself a priority to all it’s soldiers. I believe, in absolute fairness, that they will do better than you’d believe (probably more so feeling they have something to prove to the world) and 99% of them will never flake out. If one does every once in a while (and all groups have one eventually), it is unfortunate but an isolated event.

          Of course, the Corps (and all military branches in general) need to quit allowing these 10 percenters into any position where it could get themselves or another fine soldier killed (regardless of sex or sexual preference) – or just kick them out altogether. Give them their “failure to adapt,” one way ticket home, close the folder and move on.

          I realize we may not see eye to eye on all of this, but this is my honest opinion (one that has evolved through time).

          Semper Fi Jarhead!

          I’m a bit behind on my patrols, at this point. Gotta get my LPC’s a moving.

          I’m 99% sure this will be removed by the moderators. If not I’ll be shocked at the American maturity of the site.

      • StupidConservativeValues

        You’re a fucking fraud!

      • So your saying its alright to murder people in the name of Allah? You are
        definitely part of the problem. Misunderstood my ass. They are just a bunch of hate mongers that enjoy murdering innocent people. They have no regard for life, not theirs, their families, or any body for that matter. These animals kill children by putting bombs on them.. What decent human being does that?? NOBODY except those camel jokeys and idiots like you.. . Your a fuck tard.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          It’s funny you would insult others and you don’t even understand what you are reading and commenting back on in the first place… ROFL!!!! HAHAHAHAAA!!! That is absolutely hilarious! You have the nerve to call me a “fuck tard” when clearly your IQ is scraping the imbecile median of 35.

          “Be cool – stay in school.”

          Go back into your Liberal sewer you brain-dead troll. If you believe yourself a Republican, join the other side because we don’t need the irrational likes of your kind.

          Maybe I could interest you in a membership to BLM, FTM, Rainbow Arc, NAMBLA, NOI, or some other AWESOME leftist anti-freedom hate organization. You’d fit right in – maybe just go to Fallujah and sign up with the ISIS boys… You’re mentality is on par – shout insults (or Allahu-akbar!) and start firing before understanding why you are doing it.

          You’d fit in with camp Hillary… #RetardsForHillary (look I even found something trending just for you!)

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Hmmmm… my recent comment back didn’t post.

          It is ironic that you say what you have said here then insult the intelligence of another when you CLEARLY have no understanding of the English language or anything I said at all… Maybe you should have stayed in school instead of dropping out in the third grade to sell crack on street corners.

          My advice – don’t do drugs and stay in school kid.

          OH, and understand what you are arguing before you open your mouth so you don’t make yourself look like a complete retard to the entire internet world.

          I suggest learning the meanings of sarcasm and cynicism as well. Unfortunately, it is a fact that those with minuscule I.Q.’s are unable to comprehend these English language concepts and I can’t do anything to help you understand that.

          There is a breakthrough medical procedure out there for folks like you – they call it a lobotomy – I strongly suggest you seek one out… Do the world a favor – don’t reproduce.

          • hi g/sgt———don’t you love ‘computer commandos ? and needless to say ‘the only good commie; is a stone cold dead commie/socialist/ liberal………….ever get the feeling that another American civil war will happen again; in the near future ? …..the right will bring their millions of weapons; the ‘left’ will bring their ACLU lawyers and the US supreme court……..it is amazing how oshit keeps pushing us towards that future………..which is exactly what he wants… semper fi ………………

    • Religious freedom is what America’s Founders fought and died for.
      .
      If that is a problem for you, suggest you find somewhere else to live. SInce you are against religious freedom, you might find Iran to your liking.

      Americas is not N-A-Z-I

      • I suppose you think MORE AMERICANS NEED TO DIE FOR THE EVIL MUSLIMS RIGHT TO KILL US.

        • The only way to defeat your enemy is to identify them by name. I’m so tired of the libtards claiming that we are “anti-Muslim”. NO! We are trying to DEFEAT the “Radical Islamic Terrorists”. If Obama had been around in the ’30s, he would probably have refused to call the Nazi Germans “Nazi Germans”, because it would offend ordinary Germans. You MUST distinguish the bad guys from the good guys by calling them “Bad Guys”. This doesn’t mean anybody who uses the term “Bad Guy” is “anti-Guy”!

        • Angela-Agree 100%. We do not know who these people are coming into our country. ISIS said they were going to infiltrate the refugees coming in.

      • However, if any religion condones murder as Islam does, that’s where we draw the line. Murder is against God’s law, and that supersedes any religion on the face of this planet. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you start packing your bags. Iraq might be a nice place for you to visit.

      • Laughable!!! They fought for religious freedom for PEACEFUL religions, not murderous, rapist, boy raping, wife beating, girl mutilating cults.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          What I am getting from many liberals (not all agree though) is that killing gays should be protected under the Muslim American’s right to practice religion freely. I rephrased that statement onto a question and no one – I mean NONE of them would touch it with a 10 1/2 foot pole. Hrmmm… Didn’t even say – “No that isn’t what I mean.” Usually they just revert back to items like “How many have Christians killed throughout the years? Huh? No one cries about that!” So I am led to assume by their own volition that many leftists believe Islamic radicals killing gays is (or should be) a protected expression of their religious faith. Go figure.

        • oh I do love so when someone in their “righteous rants” Steps on their own dick.

          Leviticus 26:7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword.

          Leviticus 25:44-46
          As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

          Exodus 21:1-36
          Now these are the rules that you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free.

          Buy the way that last one Exodus 21:1-36 was quoted a lot by Plantation owners during the 1850s and 1860’s

          Deuteronomy 25:11-12
          “When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.“When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

          Leviticus 21:9
          And the daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by whoring, profanes her father; she shall be burned with fire.

          THERE ARE SO MANY MANY MORE. BUT I GOT BORED

          Ah Yes Such a Peaceful religion !!

          • Old testament?

          • Pretty much yes

          • Apparently you do not understand God’s Word and we no longer live under the Law. It had is its purpose for as a new species unto God. Severe punishment that is found in the OT was to protect the Client Nation of Israel. Israel was in constant danger of falling into the trap of other nations who had no laws against things God had taught His people not to accept. They were to be God’s representatives as a nation to learn and teach His ways not only in their own nation but also spread the Word of God to the entire known world. When other nations or people around them who were involved in the phallic cult like Baal worship and would sacrifice their own children and did not accept God’s ways then they would have too much influence on the Israelites; God had to get rid of them; also a lesson to Israel what would happen if they failed to keep His laws. He knew the other nations would never accept His ways. The same way with the American Indians who would have been detrimental to our new Nation who is a Client Nation to God at that time as well as now because of their overall negative influence from their religious satanic practices. Very few Indians accepted God’s way.
            1. This severe punishment accentuated the importance of divine establishment of marriage and family
            2. Without divine establishment the Client Nation of Israel would be destroyed
            3. Israel was in constant danger of falling into the trap of other nations who had no laws against adultery
            4. Many of these people were involved with the surrounding neighbors who were involved in the Phallic cult like Baal worship and would sacrifice their own children
            5. Adultery on such a scale would destroy the DI of marriage and family in Israel and the severe punishment was a deterrent – designed to protect Israel from the influence of the other nations.

          • Lets be clear about one thing.. I have no interest in your hebrew Fairytales. Its not even good literature.. So I ignore them as writings of some nutjob who though he could make himself famous. What i believe in actually is not any of your business and I don’t have to explain myself to anyone. I respect that has charity and mercy in their hearts. But sorry most “christian” don’t understand what that means

          • I pity your state of being. You seem to be trying very HARD not to believe in God when you actually know that the God of the Bible is absolutely the only supreme and sovereign God of the heavens and the earth. Your denial shows your inability and capacity to understand the Word of God because your can only read it academically. You might as well give up trying until you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior and have eternal life with Him. After all, He died for you whether you like it or not.
            1 Corinthians 2:14….But the natural man (unbeliever) receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

          • There you go.. you just proved what I said. You don’t like what i say so your going to try and cram your beliefs down my throat about about you follow my favorite passage from the Bible.. A quote from Jesus in fact.

            Matthew 6:6
            But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

          • You can always tell a FLWN BY WHAT THEY SPEW !!!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Not a fan of ze Yews I see… LOL!

      • America’s founders didn’t exactly fight and die for religious freedom. In the Constitution they made it clear that the government would have no interest in American’s choice where religion was concerned and that religion would hold no power over or within the government.

    • Is this a good thing?

    • Chris Robinette

      There is also a group called the Pink Pistols who also know who the real enemy is and spreading the word which is not guns but radical muslim ideology

    • I hope they are, but if they come out and overtly say so I fear they will be targeted by the leftists by bullying them into falling in order

    • More than likely,conservmrs,it means that Too Many people,regardless of their,sexual orientation,economic status,race,religion,etc.,etc.,etc. are Deluded by Trump,the two bit Hitler and Con Man!!

      • So, your solution is to vote for the scandal-ridden Hillary and her pervert husband ONCE AGAIN!!!???? Hope you never need to be physically protected by a Democrat – as for me, I think I could count on Donald or most republicans. I live in a small southern NJ town and as far back as the first obama election, I was very afraid to put a Republican sticker on my car because I KNEW that I would subject myself to DEMOCRAT VANDALS/CRIMINALS!!!

        Many Democrat stickers were NEVER touched!!!

        • TRUE! I have heard stories about The Demo rats , a person told me they had their car windows smashed b/c of a sticker. I look around and see lawn sign and stickers on car’s from the far left nomads their cars not touched but then the opposite side doe’s nothing but feel sorry they hae to drive around in a beat up car to begin with. I saw a car loaded with conservative stickers, so I told the man watch out for you’re car. He said “this old piece of junk” Good Thinking on his part !

    • …..that’s the Trailer park wing of the LGBT Party…tacky Wandas, all of them !

  11. Kill the gays, is not hate speech to Islam. It is their right to freedom of religion. As so well the president has reminded us. He knows this through his education in Islam.
    O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an
    unjust people.

  12. I think that a good portion of the LGBT community will realize now that liberal Democraps are not their friends. They are the ones who want to import Mooslimes into this country to kill them. Just as many in the black community are beginning to realize that Dems don’t give a damn about them. It is not the general gay community trying to shove their lifestyle down our throats. It is this administration, this DoJ, this ACLU.

  13. All of this is about “political position”! Taking any side that stops the “gravy train of freebies”, takes away the “victim position” and makes people take responsibility for their own actions is just not to be allowed! The so-called Democrat Party can only exist with victims, illegals and positions of being “against America” voters. Here we are again in 2016 with the position of having to vote for another President that is the “least Poor choice”. This must stop or our Nation is in danger of sliding down the canyon-wall of Europe where nothing is worth fighting for if it means “hurting someone’s feelings”! Every tyrant in history has known that when people will not stand for something, then anything is what they deserve!

    • The’ Democratic’ Party; one member would be a Democrat ; more than one would be Democrats .

      • The’ Democratic’ Party…..tax the worker and give to the slovenly!

        • The Corner Church ……..take a collection of 10% and feed the poor.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            My old ministry “mission” tried that… (I say mission because we never had a brick and mortar church – we set up tables and steam plates in the parks where the homeless frequented) No one seems willing to donate to actually feed the poor and homeless when you are really doing it. They only want to donate when they can clearly see you are making payments on that new Bentley. Most of the US is guilty of this – regardless of faith.

          • Run to the Fire Master Gun!!!! God bless our Corps!

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            OORAH! …and AMEN to that James… Had some nitwit on another thread tell me I am an insult to those fighting men and women that are “dying to save my dumb ass.”

            Had to give the libbie the 411 on who I am and what I do. It is funny to be preached at by some civilian that clearly has no idea – literally anything – about the military, ranks, life, traditions. I’ll tell you…

            So, considering where I just left, leaving a steaming turd of a comment, thank you for your words… and knowledge of what MGySgt stands for (lots of people claiming to be former military here insulting me with statements like “salute sarge,” and “gunny,” – it’s like grrrrrrr MASTER GUNS! LOL! Also, the preachy liberal from the last thread clearly didn’t realize that the USMC is the US MARINE Corps, a branch of US Military Service.

            Very sad indeed. You just perked me back up a little for another round of forum wars… and I have long night on post tonight so I really needed it. I just keep praying that my common-sense and life experience somehow infects one or two out there with my modern day affliction.

            Lets face it – if you have any kind of education or are capable of complex logical thinking anymore – you are treated like a leper.

          • It is my Honor to understand the most probably 30 years of service it took you to “earn” the title of “Master Gun”. Never called Sir, worked for a living! Don’t waste your time trying to make “useful idiots” understand, those of us who know honor your service! God Bless America, God Bless our Corps and God Bless Texas!

          • Absolutely right! But with what the schools are turning out these days, I’m afraid that the end is near. They are all “shiny new” victims of the liberal media and wouldn’t recognize a war if it was in their own town. They would just stand around with their mouths agape.

          • Obama, er, Dumbass! Collections are voluntary, taxes are FORCED!

          • If your prospective is tainted with selfishness I suppose you’re right, I never looked at it that way, hum. You know at my house tax day is a social gathering day. Friends come, family for food and drink and share the day we do our part for our country men and ourselves, my family has done this since at least the 50’s. In many countries they celebrate tax day, its a day of caring and happiness.

      • One, Ten, One Hundred, Ten Thousand or every single one of them! I come from a Old Southern family, every one an Old “Blue-dog Democrat” once a long time ago! Now, I don’t believe that even one is still anything but an Conservative! Just putting forth my opinion, and so are you! Have a good day.

        • Dude, I was just correcting something many on this blog do for some curious reason . Its the Democratic Party’ not the Democrat Party. There was no opinion expressed . “blue dog yellow dog Democrats , hadn’t thought of that in a long time. That was back when Democrats were actually liberal; not like the pussy shameful center/right crap of today. Bernie Sanders has shown us that there are a lot of real liberals in America, without a party.

          • No issue intended, just responded! They can call themselves anything they want to. Afterall, they make-up their own facts, why would they not make-up their party name?

  14. Maybe a few of them should travel to any Sharia law Muslim country, do one of their little happy dances, and see how long they keep their heads. Literally.

  15. And WHY are people still saying the weapon was an AR15???? It haas already been shown it was NOT!

    • Because Obama has an agenda and he plans on fulfilling it. This shooter was one of 72 terrorists employed by the DHS which has become Obama’s civilian Army.

      A member of Obama’s “civilian national security force” working with a
      team of additional attackers killed 49 people and wounded 53 others at a
      nightclub in Florida over the weekend.

      The murderer who was shot by police in Orlando — Omar Mateen — was a part
      of Obama’s private Muslim army that we have been warning you about for
      years now.

      Omar Mateen was a security guard for DHS facilities.

      Another member of Obama’s private Muslim army was Syed Farook, a government employee in San Bernardino, California.

      When platoons of Muslim illegal aliens walk across our open southern border
      and claim asylum in America, shooter Mateen’s co-workers drive the DHS
      buses that drop the illegals off in American cities.

      • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

        Ummm… Mateen worked for G4S not DHS. Yes, G4S has DHS private defense contracts but Mateen was not working them at this point, officially anyway. The agency I work for GSGI, also has DHS and UN contracts as does ACADEMI (Blackwater), and a bunch of other major armed security and federally licensed militia agencies. I can assure you that both my company and myself are neither a part of any “Obama private army.” You are crossing lines to points that don’t exist here. Not saying that Obama doesn’t have a private army, I do not know, I do know he has the Obama Youth Corps. However, the random potential fact you are citing makes no connections to the point you are trying to convey. Anyone has the right to hire their own armed force or police as per the Constitution and US Private Property laws.

        • Obama stated on the campaign trail that he wanted a “civilian
          national security” force just as strong and well-funded as the military.

          Today he has that frightening force and it consists of Muslim attackers like Omar Mateen and Syed Farook!

          The
          Orlando shooter has been confirmed to have been a security guard for
          DHS facilities. CLICK HERE FOR BACKGROUND ON OMAR MATEEN.

          Mateen’s co-workers drive the DHS buses that funnel illegal alien Muslim killers into the United States for Obama’s army.

          Hitler’s private army was known as the Schutzstaffel (SS). The SS was loyal only to Hitler.

          Obama’s SS is the army of Muslims being imported and employed at
          the DHS and other federal agencies until they are told to strike against
          Americans.

          The DHS is literally worthless in fulfilling its stated mission
          of border security, airport security, immigration and customs, and other
          national security objectives.

          The DHS has scrubbed all references to terrorism and Islam from
          all training manuals, while it employs killers like Obama Mateen!

          Congress must shut down Obama’s private army! Tell
          Congress to shut down the DHS which has failed at all of its primary
          objectives while swelling its ranks to 240,000 federal employees,
          including 72 confirmed terrorists on its payroll.

          CLICK HERE TO READ THE DAILY CALLER’S REPORT ON 72 DHS EMPLOYEES BEING ON THE NATION’S TERRORISM WATCH LIST.

          2 Corinthians 6:17 states, “Come out from among them and be
          separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will
          receive you.”

          Obama has imported millions of Muslims and an unknown number of
          known terrorists in the midst of them, who are part of Obama’s “civilian
          national security force.”

          This is how Obama has swollen the DHS ranks to more than 240,000
          employees and the attacks on America will continue unless Obama’s army
          is shut down.

          • I like this – probably a paranoid version of reality, but ‘what the heck’ reality doesn’t exist for liberals any longer.

    • What was it, can’t trust 90% of what the news is saying.

    • People aren’t, the libTURD MSM and libTURDS are!

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      Because – it has been shown psychologically that people will believe the first story they hear that fits their ideals and will reject all else even if there is a retraction later on the release when more solid information presents itself. Typically these types of people will justify their inability to accept the reality by assuming that someone else tampered with the story to fit an opposing political or social agenda. It is how the human mind works – if it makes us seem more correct than before it must be true.

  16. Good writing, expresses what I’ve been so frustrated about for several years now. The only thing I’d changs is simply using “progressivism” instead of “liberalism”….. so there’s no misunderstanding of who we’re talking about.

  17. No, they can’t realize who their enemy is because they really don’t know who THEY are.

  18. And this Muslime was a registered Democrat

  19. I don’t believe they will recognize who the real enemy is because they are so involved in getting their own message out that they have blanked everything else out. I do not wish them any harm but they need to see the bigger picture of what is happening to our country. obama is happy to continue dividing us by race, religion, gender ID or any other reason he can find.

  20. How convenient the survivors are asking for us to “not hate but love” during this time yet the LBGT agenda to destroy Christianity is part of their “world peace” so to speak. Sorry for their loss and I only see this as Americans were killed on American soil and that just won’t do not about their sexual preference which I do not agree with but would never once think of killing them. How convenient to want to unite in a “world peace” against the very ones who just killed 49 innocent lives yet not want to unite in a “world peace” with Christians whom have never done such an atrocity. Just my take!

  21. there is no explanation for the decisions the pervs make

  22. If guns had been “allowed” would we have lost 50 men and women?

  23. It is amazing, that every breaking standard left wing TV News Station Item concerning any and all mass Murder Atrocities, begin their broadcasts literally saying that, this – or that – as in the latest Orlando FL (obviously Muslim) atrocity, be it in Paris, Bruxelles, San Bernardino, Boston, or Orlando FL., is more or less the work of some crazed ‘hateful’ white man or Christian-Rightist, or trying hard to give that false initial impression using their normal P.C. nonsensical terminology. It is clear from the beginning that this latest atrocity is obviously
    everything to do with Militant Islam in the U.S.A. in complete defiance of the Left Wing TV’s obvious desires that this be just another Right Wing Christian Plot to smear peace loving Muslims. This was obvious from the beginning that this was
    just another Islamic Terrorist Assault, despite our TV Talking Heads taking their usual misleading mushy stance in defiance of obvious facts and inferences or direct reference to Islam by the perpetrator(s). This is yet just another manifestation of evil Islamic actions against unarmed American Citizens of whatever ilk that they had chosen to assault & kill.

    So yet another born in America Muslim of extremist parentage, wrongly allowed into this country by our misconceived left wing political nonsenses, gets his
    revenge against a Society in which they can never adjust – as they prefer their lives to be lived as they were 1,400 years ago in the 7th Century – and definitely not the 21st Century in which all the rest of the world lives. Indeed we should accommodate them by returning them all to their former lands where they were claiming to be so happy and well adjusted. The final insult to every normal American’s intelligence is with this failed Muslim current occupant of the White House getting on every TV Channel yesterday to blatt on with his Pro-Islamic Nonsenses in total defiance of the facts, and trying to pass the blame on to those who oppose his totally decadent and failed posturing’s as President. He is intent on doing incredible damage to this country in the remaining 7 months of his tenure. Listen carefully to his real meanings and be aware of what he has in store for this country in his last few months of his usurped power.
    nonsenses

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      What saddens me most is that the liberal community has jumped straight to pushing agendas while tens of thousands of people mourn a tragedy! There is no respect for the dead in this left wingnut controlled media. No “moment of silence” out of respect for the loss and grief of loved ones and survivors. All the left seems concerned with is pushing for Hillary’s agendas and slandering Christians while PRAISING ISLAM and pardoning their radicals… I mean – WTF!? Really there is no other phrase to explain my feelings. Clearly they have gone “full retard – and you never come back from full retard.”

  24. The real hate crimes have been committed by Obama and Hillary for recognizing conservative and god loving people as the enemy and not Muslim terrorists. You never the IRS target terrorists or liberals.

  25. This is a good read for anyone but gay’s should really read and listen to the interview.
    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/06/13/milo-yianopoulos-islam-is-the-problem/

  26. michael schimanski

    If the gay community does not start to open there eyes and see who the real enemy is , then unfortunitly they deserve and are going to regret what they get . Stupid is as stupid does !!!!!!

  27. Homosexuality is a debauched and perverse lifestyle. It is exactly what God said it was, and will remain so, regardless of efforts to pollish the turd. America is inviting the consequences of spitting in the Creator’s face, both individually and corporately.

  28. Let them believe and deny, it will be to the LBGTQ ( Geezzz) demise…Can they imagine living in a Muslim world…Denial will wipe you off the face of this planet…

  29. I have family members who are gay. They are blaming us, (I am Christian) for everything and even though I explain things in a kind way, they refuse to listen. We are heading for disaster if that woman is elected. Pray.

    • I argued with a gay professor that actually thinks gay people are more moral and intelligent, he blamed all evil, abortion, rape, molestation, murder, ect… on heterosexuals that’s what type of people we are trying to reason with, unbelievable.

  30. I think they have a really good idea of who their enemy truly is based on the Responses they got from the Orlando Shooting. All of these are direct Quotes from So called Chrisitians https://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/these-7-christian-leaders-showed-their-love-by-celebrating-the-orlando-nightclub-massacre/

    • Your site is a leftist, wide eyed, lying, frothing at the mouth piece of Obama! Too bad that your beloved MSM is so frikken biased that we can’t trust any of them to tell the truth! Have you researched the validity of those “twitters”?

      • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

        Even if they are real tweets, when you start off citing Westboro baptist as Christians then we know your cracked. The KKK is a civil rights activist group as well according to the left wingnuts. I did a quick Google on each of these names and they are all fringe whackjobs. Most of which have been sued or investigated for discrimination or encouraging hate. I don’t know a single one of them outside Westboro – goes to show how much they truly reflect national level Christian feelings on the event. I mean Jimmy Swaggart, Mother Angelica, Bennie Hinn, Jack Van Impe, Tammy Faye, Billy Graham, Joel Osteen, T. D. Jakes, Oral Roberts, Joyce Meyer, Peter Papoff, Creflo Dollar, david Jeremiah, Jessie Duplantis, Eddie Long, and many more are far more popular – huge names – YET, even still… Their opinions are their own, not all of Christianity’s.

        I am sure, even if you are not Christian you have heard some of these names. I bet you never heard of most, if not all the others in the OP’s cited article.

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      Are you serious or just trolling?

      Fringe radicals will always be fringe radicals – regardless of race, religion, or social caste. You point fingers at 5 religious nutjobs and claim “this is Christianity!” Well, you nonsensical heralding may work with those that have all but 5 working brain cells that haven’t been smoked completely retarded but the average thinking American won’t fall for such short-sighted rhetoric. You sound like a total bigot and a complete moron writing that garbage.

      I honestly cannot believe that someone in this country could be HONESTLY that stupid.

      Let me illustrate: #1 thru #3 are not “Christian” churches but cult hate groups listed as potential “terrorist/hate organizations” on the SPLU list of potential terrorist and hate organizations. #4 The pastor (whom I have no idea who he is) is simply stating that this kind of occurrence is not a hate issue but a heart issue. People that murder for fringe ideology are in fact confused and displaced in society to a point that they break and think that killing 50 people is okay. This is an understandable observation – and there is nothing else mentioned in the write-up so this is all we can observe. You see the writer charged you up with the slew of Westboro hate speak to strike an emotional chord then threw out other things that can sound hateful when already in defense mode and frothing at the mouth.

      Let’s continue: Pat Robertson (again after 23 years of being a Christian and a minister for 6 years after 4 years of seminary – I have never heard of this guy, heard of the “700 Club” but never watched it assuming it was a show about billionaires and their yachts) stated: “The left is having a dilemma of major proportions and I think for those of us who disagree with some of their policies, the best thing to do is to sit on the sidelines and let them kill themselves.” Though this statement is very harsh, and far too soon, it is obviously his honest and unfiltered opinion. Do I agree with it? No. Do most of the US’s 227,332,000 Christians agree with this? I am sure they don’t without information. If they did believe me – none of these people would be here to begin with. Remember Salem? Yeah… So obviously the rantings of a singular, 900 year old man on the fringe.

      Dave Daubenmire – who on Earth is this guy? I mean to site this fella you really need to be scraping for dirt. Rule of thumb – if you dredge for dirt you will find. This guy is obviously a conspiracy theorist nutjob that is stating – SATAN has sacrificed the homosexuals to push gun control agendas in a attempt to disarm Christians so that SATAN can roll out a New World Order under Islamic Satanist rule so he can persecute Christians and thusly bring about the apocalypse. WTF!?!?! Citing a nutbag like that makes you look like a friggin’ idiot. Acting like ANY MAJORITY of ANYONE ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE subscribes to that kind of nonsensical Eschatological tripe is absurd – ABSURD – at the very least if not wholly retarded.

      Bryan Fischer: (again who the hell is this – I certainly DO NOT KNOW and I guarantee 95% of the 227,332,000 Christians in the US don’t either) He says: We want to help homosexuals. Muslims want them dead. — Yeah, wow, ummm someone wanting to help me and someone that wants me dead… Let me think hard here – YEAH, the ones that want to “help me” not kill me are certainly a greater threat. I am sure that this is one of those “gay camp” guys or whatever, but at least he isn’t gunning them down right? Sometimes I wonder about some people.

      Matt Barber: A quick Google shows he is a part of a legal outfit that sues gays. The Dean of Liberty University School of Law, sounds legit – wait… No, it is a recruiting ground for elitist wingnuts. Costs about $58,000 a year (based on a 9 month rotation schedule – guess he is a “Christian” that doesn’t use the Gregorian calendar which has 12 months per year, but hey right, tomAto tomato). With rates like that man – this must be the Holy Grail of law schools – wait again – nope… US News and World Report both have classified this as a “sordid 4th tier school in American law schools.” So, he is the dean of a money pit school that sucks. Wait there’s more! Only 49.1% of 4 and 8 year grads report they are currently working in a law firm. STOP THE PRESSES! They only graduate between 60 and 90 students a year! Oh yeah, this is definitely the pillar of Christian society! AND they have been investigated and sued by VARIOUS rights organizations for race, gender, and religious discrimination in the past… Your whole KKK logic is failing you there libbie.

      Wow you managed to cite the ramblings of a very upstanding and credible lot there. I guess if your mind is in the hate gutter you are limited to searching the regions you know best for your reference points.

      • Ever hear the one about the Squeaky will getting the Oil. .They are as about as Squeaky as they can be but I don’t see anyone on your side calling them out for that hate groups they are.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Well Rick, if someone were to ask me, I would assure them that is not mighty Christian what they teach… Just like I explained to you. You see, there are some people that acknowledging their existence is worse that merely ignoring them. The more you battle against fringe idiots the stronger and “more right” they believe themselves in their own deluded minds. When people acknowledge them and give them their 5 minutes (like the article you cited) people (like yourself) repeat things about them (like what happened here). In the end, what happens? We become their recruitment tool for more fringe whackos to join their racist cause. Because I can guarantee one or two nutbags, that creep these forums but don’t comment, would love to stand behind their rallying call. They may have never heard it if it weren’t for our conversation.

          Imagine, if in hind sight, you could somehow know that guy and observe his life from a distance. Imagine then one day he becomes the next mass shooting terrorist because of radical ideology that he was exposed to. Maybe he is a Christian teen who is displaced and was admiring the work of this terrorist but afraid of joining ISIS because he’d have to reject Jesus as the Son of God. Now he knows several whackjobs that can assist him in his path to radicalization without changing his fanatical belief system he is already comfortable with.

          I am not suggesting that racism, bigotry, sexism, intolerance, and hate are not real issues, but unfortunately, being offensive, self-absorbed, and repugnant falls under their protected rights and is not a crime. I would advocate that we take their rights away – but then that will spiral out of control and cause many decent people, using their rights for constructive debates and mutual compromise (like we are right now) to end up in Salem Witch Trial type scenarios with crazy false accusations. Especially considering how overly sensitive some groups are these days (you’d think Americans were as fragile as crystal). Since there isn’t much that can be done without changing laws that protect our rights and freedoms that the greater majority enjoys responsibly, and that would eventually boomerang back to whack in the back of the head later, we must tolerate them. Tolerating them doesn’t mean liking them or supporting them but having to bear their existence. Their kind is dying away slowly but surely. They are now a vast minority.

          It’s like the old Bible saying, “Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” If we ignore them long enough they will go away. Acknowledging them gives them the power and attention they crave.

          The way your initial statement struck me I thought you were saying that “Hey here is the US’s Christian opinion.” I am sick and tired of seeing that as this big argument in politics – Oh your religious and therefore a liar (or idiot, or not a scientist, whatever) – because it is an ignorant non-argument. Also, most of it is presumed or outright assumed about the individual. I have seen two people arguing the same side (right vs right or left vs left) a few times because they took something one said out of context and began assuming all kinds of things about each other. After a laugh I’ve stepped in and moderated a few times and they become friends. LOL!

          Also calling it my side is weird. I only call people out by Left/Right when they declare the superiority of their side. When people get fascist I go revolutionary. I am one of those necessary evil people. If you look at a vast majority of my comments I hop back and forth. I am a registered republican, but our party keeps picking the biggest joker to rally behind. Leaves me with little to stand by. I often agree with many liberal points of view on a great many topics. At the end of the day I choose intellectual honesty and logic on a debate because I have to live with the things I publicly endorse or oppose because that MAY influence others that my experience appeals to. I was going to vote Bernie but it seems the Democrats have convinced him to stand down so now – I am stuck, since I would rather die than vote Hillary. Maybe put in Mickey Mouse for my write in for the third time in a row. Last time I had Obama and Romney – both terrible choices. Give me Bernie Sanders, Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, or Cynthia McKinney. I have a thing for people that ask the tough questions and have the guts to address real issues.

          Personally…

          I hold myself responsible for what I say and I will rescind any comment that I formerly made if I am proven to be wrong and will apologize if I caused any disruption. It happens rarely but sometimes I am wrong and get bad facts, but I also have no issue admitting it. At the end of the day we are all human. I feel political party and other false divisive lines cause problems and separate us unnecessarily. I think we could better work things out unified than divided.

          At first I took you for someone unreasonable, and I was wrong, your last comment after I got upset shows me that you are more level headed and focused than I initially thought.

          • I always knew there was a reason I respected most Marines. Some of the worst acts in human history have been committed because of religion. And I am not only talking about recent history. The Crusades to “save the Holy Land” had unspeakable acts committed by both Sides. The Spanish Inquisition was another. The Salem Witch trails. Teaching children that they will go to Paradise if they strap a bomb to their chest and set it off in a crowd and those are just the tip of the iceberg. Thats way when I hear people talking about wanting to put “god back in the classroom” The first thing that pops into my head is are they so out of touch they think god would not be there if he wanted to be. Almost every one of the Founding fathers stood up for Separation of Church and State by voting for the First Amendment that give that freedom of religion.. Of course that freedom also includes the right for someone to be “free of religion” SO when I hear people talk about following the law of the Bible it is them trying to force their beliefs into my life. If they really want to follow the law of the bible how about they follow the golden Rule first. Those Nut jobs I quoted what were cheering the shooting in Orlando have in something in common with those extreme Islamic Clerics that are fueling their JIhad.. All of them are pure evil.

          • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

            Dammit! I got Hans Solo’d again…

            Recap – I agree 100%. Blah blah blah… Imagine Westboro pastor as president, yatta ya… Was a Christian since I was 13 but after becoming a minister renounced the church. Met a homeless man today after cashing my payroll, gave him $20 which led to a conversation, ended up getting him a room at the Hojo for two day on my Wyndham reward points and gave him another $30 for basic care items. He cried and almost made me cry. I was homeless once and was taken in by a Muslim man that, he and his wife Merlinda, co-own Shirley of Hollywood lingerie and he is on the board of Directors for MAL Pakistan (Exxon). He gave me a job at Exxon and pay fronts for clothes as well as a condo, with his awesome – totally feminine – gay Filipino friend Jack. He did lie to me at first and said he was Indian. He did all this knowing that this bum was soldier that just came back from OIF and OEF but helped me anyway. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. Ironic huh?

            Blah blibbity blah…

            I agree fanatics are a big issue. Fanaticism, prejudice, and corruption are what I perceive to be the top 3 causes of death and poverty in the world. They create an ever revolving cycle of death and destruction which creates poverty and more death and destruction. We – the people of the world – need to end the viscous cycle we’ve been mired in for the last few centuries that is preventing the next stage of social evolution. We need to keep that in mind whenever we look at our children and grandchildren (or the youth of the world that will inherit our problems) and think that they shouldn’t have to carry the burden that our ancestors left on us to deal with and essentially their ancestors placed on them. Someone needs to break the cycle – may as well be us.

            I also went into the Crusades and plenary indulgence, as well as Vlad the Impaler, Emperor Sigismund, and the Order of the Dragon – noting about religious rulers not being good. I also stated that I agree with the idea of secular government and secular public schools even if I disagree with preventing religious children from participating in religious activities provided: A. It is not disrupting any kind of classroom activity (no homeroom prophets heralding the end or whatever in the middle of class) B. It is not harmful or destructive to others, and C. No state tax funds are used to support it. Anyone that has a problem with that – private schools exist where that stuff is encouraged… Also, with Obama’s tax reform the IRS lets you deduct private school payments from your taxes, and there are dirt cheap private schools out there (as well as home school programs). Therefore, provided you have full-time work, are paying into taxes, and are head of household, these things are next to free at this moment. I know because I have been home schooling my son for three years now and the benefits are amazing!

            That about summarizes my original comment, which was much more wordy and well composed… LOL! Have a good one bro! (excuse typos and sentences that may not make much sense please, in a hurry now and about 3 minutes behind)

  31. Homosexuals are a sub Culture of our Society and know, deep down inside (even if they won’t admit it to themselves) that they are NOT normal. Muslims do not accept any deviant lifestyles and will erradicate those that are abnormal. It’s their way of stopping that deviancy from spreading throughout their culture. Americans can learn a lesson from Muslims…even if it is devastating and cruel. Deviants destroy cultures by corrupting its very laws and traditions. Sound familiar?

    However, through another blogger’s eyes I was told that this slaughter wasn’t Terrorist related in that it wasn’t directed at a Night Club full of AMERICAN Straights and/or Gays, but specifically at a Club full of Gays. Perhaps the Muslim man had attended that Club before and was finding it intriguing and more like him?? If so, being Muslim, he knows he would become an outcast and possibly lose his own life should anyone inside that Club reveal him as Gay. Think about this. In order to hide his Shame, he would have to destroy all at that Club that could identify him as Gay before they could ruin his life…so he killed as many as he could to protect his name/person.

    No matter what drove this crazed Muslim man, Homosexuality was the reason for the slaughter. It didn’t happen where nonGays live or work, but at the hub of all Gay’s pleasure seeking…their most popular Club in Orlando. Unfortunately for the Gay subculture, their lives are again at risk by something even greater than bigotry. Muslims (especially Muslims finding themselves attracted to the Gay lifestyle) will not stop destroying the people they know to be sick and abnormal that can change a Muslim’s life forever.

    This is only the beginning. One of these factions (Gays or Muslims) are going to lose in the end….big time. If I were Gay, I’d be very careful where I go to party or hang out – those places are magnets for a crazed Muslim. If I were Muslim, well I’m not, Thank God, but if they want to remain in our country, they need to get control of their young male adults who are so very angry inside and ready to blow at someone, especially someone who is a deviant from a normal Society.

    Our hearts go out to all the Families of the murdered victims. Being Gay should not be a death sentence. Be very careful where you go and who is around you if you want to survive.

    Slaughtering our people cannot be tolerated and must STOP or deportation, even if American born, must be done. Either follow our rules and laws or go live in another country! Amen.

  32. The LGBT/homosexual/sodomite (not PC gay) “AGENDA” is the worst disease infecting and destroying the morals, family values, and children (the agenda’s main target) of the USA and the world.

    Homosexuals WERE NOT BORN THAT WAY, they CHOOSE their UNNATURAL DESTRUCTIVE lifestyle, so, homosexuality does not qualify as a civil rights discrimination issue.

    Homosexuality will never be normal, natural, healthy (mentally or physically), or accepted.

    Homosexuals had equal rights, now they have special rights and want more. Every special right awarded to homosexuals infringes on our rights.
    God loves everyone, as we all should, including homosexuals. God hates all sin,
    as we all should, including homosexuality and He says it is an abomination.

    • Not too hard to understand. The gays… oops, guys… couldn’t get a woman (and if they did, they wouldn’t have known what to do with one; inexperience) and the women were afraid of guys to begin with (wanted something “softer – and many times, fatter”). No rocket science involved. That and inferiority complexes.

  33. The LGTBQ Community ARE One-Issue-Voters.
    So, Now that the Radical Islamists Massacred them………………They still revert back to One-Issue-Voting !
    America doesn’t matter !

    God Please Bless America…………….

  34. IF Hillary is Elected…………Count on more of the same.
    HILLARY has received MILLIONS from Mid East Countries with Sharia Law.
    Good Luck America………………..while we STILL have an America !

    • “According to the Clinton Foundation’s website, the Clinton’s have received more than $85 million in donations from Islamic Gulf states and their monarchs. Following the money explains why and how much Hillary has been paid to lie about Islam. ”

      “Under Clinton’s leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an IBTimes analysis of State Department and foundation data. American defense contractors also donated to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and in some cases made personal payments to Bill Clinton for speaking engagements. Such firms and their subsidiaries were listed as
      contractors in $163 billion worth of Pentagon-negotiated deals that were authorized by the Clinton State Department between 2009 and 2012”.

  35. Well, yes the muslims kill gays and anyone else that doesn’t agree with them but the gay community is the most closed minded group of people I have ever experienced in my life. They refuse to blame anyone but the Christians. I am a Christian and I haven’t killed anyone lately except I think a little squirrel who ran out in front of my car and I am truly sorry for that, it was an accident.

  36. OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

    They had better, just got done arguing with liberals that want to downplay this as “just another day in the neighborhood,” because the shooter aligned himself with radical Islamic ideology. I wondered when this crossroad would come and here it is. The LGBT rights movement was just thrown under the bus in the support of the Pro-Islamic Extremist lobby in the left.

  37. Robbert Hoekstra Azusa

    Remember the Biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah and we don’t have to feel guilty about what the LGBT and their behavior. They are their own enemy and only want to impose their problems on us. Eventually Nature will take its course. They don’t have the guts to blame it on radical Islam, so, like in the days of the queer and gay Roman Empire of the man with the fiddle, they blame it on the Christians and everybody follows suit. Just another excuse for a religious persecution. Just remember what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah. Someday San Francisco will burn again and then they will blame that on the Christians also. We are still a country with FREEDOM OF RELIGION … are we not, or has America’s Communist Liberal movement taken that right away from us already?? Only time will tell. God bless and peace be with you.

  38. Yup, when they eventually wake up to the fact that Islam is their real enemy, it will be too late.

  39. freethinker: I am beginning to see the light (I think) I have tried to do my part to keep this country free, but the liberals have to experience communism and radical islam before they wake up and even that is questionable. They will take everything we have (not just guns) and finally our lives. I am old so they can start with me but I am sorry for those who think they know it all because it will be so hard for them.

  40. One Nation Under GOD…No Compromise! Nuff said!!!

  41. The answer is no; after all, they have been given over to reprobate minds for living in a sinful lifestyle that defies all logic so why would they think any differently!

  42. They don’t seem to mind a Muslim terrorist (he’s just an anomaly, after all the gay community lives Muslins); but if you won’t bake them their wedding cake or aren’t falling all over yourself supporting gay marriage you’re a hater.

  43. The Muslims are not the enemy of the LGBT community. This is the first terrorist attack by a Muslim radical nutcase on the LGBT community in our country. There have been many, many more attacks by right-wing, so-called “Christians” on the LGBT community over many years. Only yesterday, a “Christian Preacher” called for the killing of ALL members of the LGBT community in a filmed sermon. It iis these kinds of total condemnations by the right-wing members of society that promote the killings and public harassment of LGBT members over the last decades. This radical nutcase incident by a young man claiming to “do it for ISIS” is the first time. Unfortunately, he was very, very successful in his attack.

    • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

      Muslims are not – but religious radicals are!

      A “Christian Preacher” that calls for the killing of anyone is not a Christian now is he? Sadly, a Muslim that kills homosexuals is well, doing what his “good book” commanded. However, I realize that many Muslims disagree with Islam’s violent extremism and Sharia. However – as we can see in the chart from then people at Pew Research – MOST Muslims support Islam and Sharia… especially those in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia – the European ones are more tolerant and so are the US Muslims (not included in this chart) where only 25% want sharia and only 11% feel it should apply to all citizens. (which means we have 302,500 potential nutjob assholes here now that should be considered potential homegrown terrorists out of the alleged 2.75 million Muslim-Americans 1,732,500 of which are immigrant alien residents)

      Just like you cannot judge all Muslims on the acts of a crazed Islamist Terrorist fanboy, you cannot blame each an every Christian individual for the words expressed by one “preacher.” Besides, anyone can call themselves a preacher, priest, imam, monk, prophet, and then say something on film. You act like this is 1910. Most people have a smartphone and can film what they say and upload it to YouTube. You talk as if this person is some official spokesperson for all Christians world wide. It is a silly, immature, and prejudice way of thinking.

      Hypocrisy much?

      • You will notice that I put “Christian Preacher” and “Christians” in quotes in my statement because they do truly do not represent the entire Christian community nor the teachings of Christ and the New Testament.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Got’cha! I understand.

          I assumed you were just doing the typical thing I have been finding and trying to “blame it on the Christians.” I used to be one and know many and never seen this kind of thing. Then again, I don’t really associate with radicals and if I suspected racism r bigotry in my circle of friends, I would probably talk them first, but if their actions continued I think I would end said friendship. Since I am not a fan of intolerance.

          This tragedy has brought out some of the most horrible things in people. The worst ones I’ve found are the (ironically) liberal tragedy deniers (people who believe this is just another day in America and had nothing to do with radical Islam nor were gays being targeted), which I would ironically expected worse from the fringe right wingers than everyday liberal commentators, considering that it was a Muslim killing gays. I’m shocked that I am actually most repulsed by the lefty comments I am seeing. Usually this type of situation is where I land “just right of left,” on. New times and generation I suppose.

          I actually hold no weight in the Left/Right schism – we are all human and when push comes to shove most of us tend to do the right things. I believe in the core doctrine of Republicanism, but this year, if he stays in, then I will vote for Bernie, otherwise I will vote for Trump because I can’t bring myself to vote for Hillary. Bill should’ve just run again. Unless Hillary appoints Bill as VP and announces that she decides to stand trial. Then Bill can step in because he would not have been elected.

          The 22nd amendment reads as follows: “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.” Therefore, if he is not elected, he loopholes it. I am sure the GOP will sue but I believe the SCOTUS would uphold it unless they make a determination that the original intention was to prevent anyone from having the office more than one, two term stand. However, it would take time for that one to pan out and in the meantime Bill would call the shots.

          Since that is highly improbable, I will reluctantly vote for Trump because he is just a little less frightening than Hillary.

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            Clinton passed the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) despite
            the fact that it traded lower environmental standards for increased free
            trade. NAFTA resulted in more air pollution on the US/Mexico border,
            which experts estimated would cost $15 billion to clean up. Clinton
            also signed a 1995 measure to allow logging in national forests which
            suspended environmental laws protecting those forests.

            Foreign Policy: A year after 18 American troops were killed in a failed 1993 mission to
            capture
            a warlord in Somalia, Clinton was hesitant to take action to stop a
            genocide in Rwanda. While he failed to act, more than half a million
            Tutsis were murdered. Critics accused Clinton of appeasement when he
            gave China Most Favored Nation (MFN) status despite their terrible human
            rights record and when he granted North Korea concessions in exchange
            for a promise to discontinue their nuclear weapons program.

            Health: Health care reform was Clinton’s major goal when he took office but his
            administration
            was ill-prepared for such a large task and made several missteps.
            Republican opposition was insurmountable and Senate Majority Leader
            George Mitchell (D-ME) declared on Sep. 26, 1994 that Clinton’s plan
            would never pass. The failure is considered the biggest of his
            administration in part because it led to the Republicans regaining
            control of Congress in the next election but also because he expended a
            lot of political capital without getting anything in return.

            Science
            / Technology: Clinton cut NASA’s budget by $715 million in 1995 (about
            5%) and did not restore the bulk of the money until three months before
            he left office. The result was a space program struggling to operate
            with less money for most of Clinton’s time in office. Some blame the
            2003 Space Shuttle Columbia explosion on Clinton’s decision to slash
            NASA’s budget by an aggregate of $56 million over his presidency.

            Social Policy: Clinton neglected to take to steps to restructure Social Security and
            Medicare.
            In anticipation of the upcoming Baby Boom generation retiring and
            drawing heavily on those social services, Clinton should have worked to
            secure those programs. In a June 20, 2004 interview with 60 Minutes, he
            admitted “I’m sorry on the home front that we didn’t get healthcare and
            that we didn’t reform Social Security.”

            Taxes:
            The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 increased the gasoline
            tax by 4.3 cents per gallon, which directly impacted the middle class.
            The 1993 tax hikes cannot be credited with the economic boom of the
            1990s: it was after the Republican Congress passed tax cuts in 1997 that
            the economy really became stronger and the budget was balanced. Clinton
            designed his tax plans to place an unfair burden on the
            wealthy, punishing the most productive members of the US economy while
            cutting taxes for the least productive.

            Other:
            Clinton failed to deal with the threat of Osama bin Laden, whose
            terrorist acts escalated and culminated in the Sep. 11, 2001 attacks
            that killed 2,973 people. Clinton was too distracted by scandals such as
            the threat of impeachment to take action against Al Qaeda. A former CIA
            station chief in Pakistan said Clinton ordered the CIA to
            capture bin Laden alive, which resulted in a missed opportunity to kill him at an al-Qaida training camp in 2000.

          • Congress makes the laws.
            Congress spends the money.
            Suggest you take an American Government class.

          • Your left out the perps history of violence, arrests for spousal abuse and the fact that he has spent time in mental hospitals.

      • Why do you need to tell this lie?
        Why do you embarrass America this way?
        Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
        Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

      • Sharia and the Old Testament have very strong similarities.
        Sharia is religious law. Muslim countries are not alone in that distinction.
        There are countries ruled by Christian. Buddhist and Pancasila belief systems.

        • OfcShane (MGySgt USMC)

          Here is where I got the info:

          http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

          It is a very interesting group that bases all their info on raw science and math. This was again suggested to me as a great source of info from a fellow at Princeton who was a hardlined liberal leftist and an atheist (closet) homosexual. If this is where liberals get their hard facts from and trust the site – then why question it when a person you perceive an enemy cites it?

          The sites admins didn’t edit it specifically for me just for this argument…

          (…or did they? Grab the anti-conspiracy tinfoil hat!)

          • MAYBE IT’S B/C OF THE FACT OF WHERE THE FLWNJ’S GET THEIR INFO THEY MAKE MOST OF IT UP AS THEY GO ALONG !

      • WELL THAT FIGURES, THEY ARE ALL DUMB DOWN ILLITERATE COUNTRY’S, HOPEFULLY AMERICA WON’T BE NEXT B/C OF ALL THE IDIOT’S !

    • The young man had a history of mental illness.
      He also had a history of violence — spouse abuse.

  44. Why does it seem like there are more terrorists acts since”they”elected obozo president.Is it because he has divided our country into two different hate groups,or is it because he is importing criminals,or is it,well,i could go on and on.I do NOT feel that he is my president.All of my presidents loved my good old U.S.A.

    • StupidConservativeValues

      Q. “Why does it seem like there are more terrorists acts since”they”elected obozo president.[sic]”

      A. Because your head is so far up your ass, you have no idea what actual reality is.

      You’re welcome in advance, and if you have more questions on how the real world functions (and not how you idiots think it should be), just ask…no need to be shy just because you’re clueless about everything in your life.

      • Blather on libTURD! Tax the rich, tax the poor, tax the air, tax the water, tax tax tax!!Tax the rich, tax the poor, tax the air, tax the water, tax tax tax!!Tax the rich, tax the poor, tax the air, tax the water, tax tax tax!!Tax the rich, tax the poor, tax the air, tax the water, tax tax tax!!

        • That is exactly what Congress does.
          Maybe you should be more careful of who you elect.
          .
          The Iraq war cost $1 million per day.
          The Afghanistan was is still caosting $1 million a day.

        • You always have to include thumb tax and carpet tax amoungst those, as well.

    • The same was true of William Jefferson Clinton and Jimmy Carter. The enemies of America know our government well.

    • Why do you need to tell these lies?
      Why do you embarrass America this way?
      Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
      Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

  45. StupidConservativeValues

    I have to ask my fellow veterans who may be thinking of voting for Trump — seriously — would you follow this guy in combat? Because that’s what he’s asking you to do you know…he’s asking this country to follow him and take the hill. Not only no way but no fucking way…

    • Your a fucking liar. What branch, what company, what unit? Your a piece of crap.

      • StupidConservativeValues

        The same unit Reagan and Cheney were in. You should know it. btw- Trump’s political life is near it’s end. The general populace of this GREAT LIBERAL NATION knows how mentally unstable and sick he and his sheeple are. You are proof by using the AMERICAN NAZI SYMBOL as your wittle avatar. Even goat fuckers, child molesters and “niggers” aren’t as low in life as you. NOW GET BACK IN LINE FOR YOUR GOVERNMENT HANDOUT LYING RACIST.

      • StupidConservativeValues

        Oh yea, forgot to tell you, Soros pays ME by the number of characters you stupid ass inbred dolts write in your responses. So, to you and all the other slobs; THANKS FOR THE FREE $$$$


      • Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?
        Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?
        That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

    • Another “Band-Aid warrior like John Kerry? What a twat! You lefties had no problem with our other two civilian puke wads “Bent Willy” CLITon or Barak “Ball-less Wonder” Obama.

      • Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?
        Why do you embarrass America with childish foul language?
        That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

    • If you don’t like trump don’t worry b/c you may not even get the chance to vote for any FLWNJ either . Now lets see who is available, there’s sanders a commie and wuss and according to the constitution should not even be running. there’s Hitlery, there are not even enough words in the dictionary to describe her anti human satanist nature so there’s “Trump” the only man left that is not a coward or a commie to do the job !!!!!! I suggest you crawl into you’re coward hole and take a long nap cause you are going to need it !!!!

  46. They are part of the enemy. Hey live in sin and live sin. I am not heartbroken about what happened. I have taken lives in places I can’t divulge. I know people have their panties in a wad but the real enemy is this administration.

  47. StupidConservativeValues

    How about we treat every young man (person) who wants to buy a gun like every woman who wants to get an abortion – mandatory 48-hr waiting period, parental permission, a note from his (their) doctor provin