Vilifying Columbus Does NOTHING to Actually Help Native Americans

Instead of celebrating Christopher Columbus each year around this time, the annual American tradition has become a national debate over whether or not he SHOULD be celebrated or if he should, in fact, be demonized as a genocidal Christian conqueror who brought only pain and misery to Native Americans.

The left, of course, is responsible for this new tradition, as they are of all new traditions that weaken the fabric of our nation and rewrite history using the norms and values of their progressive political movement. We are now supposed to relegate Columbus to the same dark museum basements as we’ve relegated Robert E. Lee, and we’re apparently supposed to call Columbus Day by a new name: Indigenous People’s Day. Terrific.

Here’s a note for the left: It doesn’t matter. What you’re doing? It doesn’t make any difference at all. It’s just another excuse for you to paint yourselves as morally superior to your parents and grandparents. To rebel against the truth and to pretend that you’re involved in a holy crusade for a Better America. You aren’t. You aren’t doing anything. You’re just making a nuisance of yourselves so that you can feel better about your loser lives.

According to Newsweek, hothead liberals in NYC are so determined to make a statement that the city had to put a statue of Columbus under police protection:

New York City’s latest security concern: a statue of Christopher Columbus.

The NYPD has placed the old marble statue near Central Park under 24/7 security to prevent it from being vandalized before the controversial holiday on Monday.

Round-the-clock security for the statue gives it the same threat-level status as such notable targets as the Israeli mission to the U.N., the Brooklyn Bridge, Times Square, Trump Tower and the mayor himself.

The NYPD declined to comment on threats to the statue but cited recent efforts to deface the Columbus monument. The monument of the Italian explorer was vandalized twice in September—once with pink nail polish, and once with red paint.

“In light of recent vandalism, the NYPD has assigned patrol resources to maintain a post in the vicinity of the Columbus Statue,” the NYPD said in a statement.

Good grief.

As with the push to rename the Washington Redskins and the war against Confederate monuments, this attempt to vilify Christopher Columbus does absolutely NOTHING to help the people supposedly being victimized by his statues and memorials. It is just a stand-in – a façade issue that makes liberals feel good about themselves. We’d love to ignore it and just let them have their way, but we can’t bear to watch them destroy America’s storied history and traditions just so they feel like they’ve “made a difference” in the world. Someone give these crybabies a pacifier so we can get back to the serious issues facing this country, please.

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  1. Rewriting history is not the way to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past. It might make the snowflakes feel better but it will not fix anything!

    • When conservatives stopped valuing the truth for truth’s sake I can’t say, but it’s all too evident here that it has happened.

      • Please be a bit more specific about conservatives not “valuing the truth’s sale for truth’s sake” and state the specific lack of truths to which you refer.

      • Please explain.

      • Wow Jim Dandy the libtard. You brain-dead liberals are the liars and are evil and violent. Antifa, leftists, Democrats, BLM and the Black Panthers are the problems in this country. All you libtards know is how to murder and destroy. And throw libtard tantrums, lol. You should be deported anywhere for the good of America. MAGA

        • Linda, does this mean us homosexuals aren’t the problem anymore?

        • curmudgeon VN Veteran

          In case you are having a rough day, here’s a stress management technique recommended in all the latest psychological journals. The funny thing is that it really does work and will make you smile.

          1. Picture yourself lying on your belly on a warm rock that hangs out over a

          crystal clear stream.

          2. Picture yourself with both your hands dangling in the cool running water.

          3. Birds are sweetly singing in the cool mountain air.

          4. No one knows your secret place.

          5. You are in total seclusion from that hectic place called the world.

          6. The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity.

          7. The water is so clear that you can make out the face of the liberal Democrat you are holding underwater.

          See it worked. You’re smiling. You feel better already.

      • When you paint with a broad brush, you miss the details. I believe that the conservatives know the truth and simply don’t want it rewritten. Here is a couple of truths I’ve seen.
        PRIDE OF OUR COUNTRY: Most of us have had family that served or have served themselves. We have seen other countries, lived in other countries and know how good we have it in the United States. Even our slums are better than some “third world” countries. We don’t have dirt floors and no running purified water. We value our everyday freedoms and are thankful that we were born in the US. You should go traveling outside the US to broaden your education.
        TRUTH. We value law and order. We are a nation of laws. We ask for them to be enforced to keep anarchy at bay. We value legal immigration as we are a nation of immigrants, however illegal immigrants are criminals. They have shown that the disregard our laws by their illegal entrance in the first place. Others in our government have ignored the laws instead of having them lawfully changed. This has resulted in a burden on the tax payers and it gives the US the reputation that we will reward their illegal behavior and more try to come.
        TRUTH. We believe in our Constitutional Amendments as our forefathers have written. There is a procedure to add and change them. We are only want things done legally. ANY Constitutional changes must be voted by the ENTIRE legal population. Not by Congress.
        TRUTH. HISTORY. We don’t want it rewritten by someone with their own agenda. We want facts to be taught. A person can then develop their own opinions, instead of having some else jam theirs down our throats. What will history write of the current conflicts? That has yet to have a conclusion.
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        • AWESOME/ GREAT/ BRAVO!!!!! Standing ovation!! Ya nailed it Ladypyro!!!

        • Ladypro, even if you had your facts straight*, what does any of what you’ve written have to do with Columbus? I think you’ve got this speech rattling around in your little noggin, and It pops out whenever you get excited.

          *I went to high school in Europe and travelled extensively.

          Immigrants, including “illegals,” contribute far more to our economy than they take out of it.

          DACA makes the Dreamers legal. Revoking it makes them illegal, increasing the number of “illegals” by 800,000. How does that solve a problem. Should we drum out the 40,000 of them in our military?

          The entire population does not have to vote for a constitutional amendment, but only 2/3 of state legislatures.

          • I saw on Hannity the amount of daca “kidz” in our military is no way near 40 k. And many of them are problem “kids” too.

    • That’s all those IDIOTIC FOOLS go by, FEELINGS!

      • What. You don’t think the little tantrum reflected in your comment is about feelings? It sure as hell isn’t about thiinking.

        • curmudgeon VN Veteran

          The Pope went on a vacation for a few days to visit the rugged mountains of Alaska.

          Driving along near a campground, he heard a frantic commotion at the edge of the woods.

          He saw a helpless man wearing shorts, sandals, a ‘Vote for Hillary’ hat and a ‘Save the Trees’ shirt. The man was screaming and struggling frantically, thrashing all about, trying to free himself from the grasp of a 10-foot grizzly bear.

          As the Pope watched in horror, a group of loggers wearing ‘Go Trump’ shirts came running up. One quickly fired a .44 magnum slug right into the bear’s chest. The two other men pulled the semiconscious Democrat from the bear’s grasp.

          Then using baseball bats, the three loggers finished off the bear. Two of the men dragged the dead grizzly onto the bed of their pickup truck while the other tenderly placed the injured ‘ I’m with her ‘ supporter onto the back seat.

          As they began to leave, the Pope summoned all of the workers over to him. “I give you my blessing for your brave actions!” he proudly proclaimed, placing his hand onto each man’s head.

          “I had heard there was bitter hatred between Republican loggers and Democratic environmental activists. But now I’ve seen with my own eyes that this is not true.”

          As the Pope drove away, one logger asked his buddies, “Who was that guy?”

          “Dude, that was the Pope,” another replied. “He’s in direct contact with Heaven and has access to all wisdom.”

          “Well,” the logger said, “he may have access to all wisdom, but he don’t know squat about bear hunting. By the way, is the bait still alive or do we need to go back to California and get another one?”

          • Excellent ‘joke’ – too bad this new communist pope is a hypocrite and about as Christian as Sadam Hussein. Hey pope – TEAR DOWN YOUR WALLS! SELL OFF ALL THE ANTI-CHRIST WEALTH IN THE VATICAN AND FEED THE WORLD! You are repugnant and will burn in hell with all the other evil political popes in the past. Only Pope John the 23rd was a TRUE CHRISTIAN. BRING BACK THE ECUMENICAL COUNSEL!

          • Datz a good one

    • Justin, Justin, Justin. When the history is either incorrect or an outright lie, it *should* be rewritten, don’t you think? You see, the heavier of Columbus and the conquistadors that followed him was so deplorable that the first historians to cover it had to cover it up or make Christians look pretty bad—not that it mattered much. The Spanish Inquisition was going on under the direction of Christian fanatics Ferdinand and Isabella at that time, and their practices were well known to all.

  2. 526 years of progress & change means NOTHING to these twits protesting Columbus. Perhaps IF they lived in the 1490′ s and experienced its customs & traditions they would have a different view of life. Had it not been for explorers, adventurers, and people willing to go beyond their reach, none of this would exist. These “snowflakes” wouldn’t exist. God put men and women on this earth to keep reaching, exploring, to become the best they can be. These protesters have NO IDEA where they are going or what they are doing. Without Columbus and all who followed, including their ancestors, how many of them would exist? And, what kind of people would they be, today?

    • HESpecialist I agree with your premises for the most part but I must point out a fact at the same time….if you do a little research you will discover the Native American population numbered around 12-15 million in that famous year 1492….today that same population numbers around 600,000…it is one of the greatest genocides in human history that has been hidden and swept under the rug…and I realize many AMERICAN have no desire to confront this fact….but it is in the history of these UNITED STATES….so you have to reconcile your argument with this fact

      • This genocide happened way after Columbus as greedy people moved west. Most became present day liberals.

      • What you must also consider is the genocide reigned down upon the tribes by tribes, wiping out complete civilizations of “native Americans”. Columbus, nor others are responsible for that. Tribes fought and killed each other, took slaves, and were brutal for no other reason than they could, and did. You can’t make peace and coexist with someone who’s goal is your extinction. Now, WE HAVE ISLAM that wants much the same. And, ALL Americans, regardless of ethnicity, are its targets.

        • You bet! The so-called “peaceful” Muslims are the most to be feared, for their long-range goal is the same as the radical ones.

          Read about Dearborn and Hamtramck in Michigan. It is already happening there.

          • Muslims declared war on us before 9-11-2001 It began in the 7th century as Mohamed led his Muslim hordes cutting off heads and killing thousands forcing conversion to his religion in lands Apostle Paul converted to to Christianity. Mohamed’s plan of Jihad, Holy War, was first to conquer Constantinople, Istanbul today, Jerusalem and finally Rome. They were turned back twice at Rome. After Mohamed’s death in 632, the new caliph, Abu Bakr, launched Islam into almost 1,500 years of continual imperialist/colonialist, bloody conquests and subjugation through invasion and war that stretched from the Philippines, across Asia, Africa and to Europe, a role Islam continues to this very day.

            ISIS’s leader in beheading 21Christains proclaimed “We are at war with the Cross and we will win the whole world for Allah”. Yunis Al Astal, popular Hamas cleric and Islamic law scholar in his April 11, 2009 speech: “Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesied by our prophet Muhammad. This capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe.”

            If you truly wish to understand Islam simply reading the Quran, as I did years ago, is not sufficient, you MUST read, Reliance of the Traveler, ‘Umdat al-Salik written by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri who died in 1368. The English translation by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, is called the Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law, and it bears the approval stamps of Al-Azhar University in Cairo and the U.S. International Institute of Islamic Thought. Every single day more than 80% of Imams, Mosques and virtually every Islamic university in the world teach from this book . They preach strict unwavering adherence to Sharia Law, they teach the entire world under a reestablished Caliphate, they teach every last person on the planet should be forced into submission to Islam and Allah.

            It is the height of ignorance to think that the violent acts of radical Islamists can be divorced from their religious ideals, an ideology ingrained in the core of Islam itself.

          • Ain’t NO such thing as a “Moderate Mudslime”!! What it boils down to is the warriors/ fighters and the cowards!!
            I found this on a blog! Don’t know who wrote it but here goes!!!!!
            The Tel Aviv bus attack:was a Muslim
            The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
            The beheading of two Japanese hostages was a Muslim
            The Paris and Australia shooting was a Muslim
            The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
            The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
            The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
            The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
            The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
            The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
            The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
            The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
            The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
            The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
            The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
            The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
            The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
            The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
            The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
            The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
            The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
            The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
            The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
            The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
            The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
            The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
            The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’
            Philippines – Moro Islamic Liberation Front guerrillas were involved in the killing of 49 Special Action Force Personnel

            Think of it:
            Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
            Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
            Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
            Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
            Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
            Confusians living with Baha’is = No Problem
            Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
            Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
            Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
            Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
            Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
            Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
            Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
            Christians living with Jews = No Problem
            Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
            Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
            Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
            Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
            Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
            Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
            Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
            Muslims living with Christians = Problem
            Muslims living with Jews = Problem
            Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
            Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
            Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
            Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

            MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

            **********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

            They’re not happy in Gaza
            They’re not happy in Egypt
            They’re not happy in Libya
            They’re not happy in Morocco
            They’re not happy in Iran
            They’re not happy in Iraq
            They’re not happy in Yemen
            They’re not happy in Afghanistan
            They’re not happy in Pakistan
            They’re not happy in Syria
            They’re not happy in Lebanon
            They’re not happy in Nigeria
            They’re not happy in Kenya
            They’re not happy in Sudan

            ******** So, where are they happy? **********
            They’re happy in Australia
            They’re happy in England
            They’re happy in Belgium
            They’re happy in France
            They’re happy in Italy
            They’re happy in Germany
            They’re happy in Sweden
            They’re happy in the USA & Canada
            They’re happy in Norway & India
            They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their
            leadership… Not themselves… THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the
            countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally
            they will be get hammered!!!!

            Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
            AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!
            I am sure with these SAVAGES there will be more to come
            Think about THIS…. .
            Can a good Muslim be a good American or Canadian?

            This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia
            for 20 years. The following is his reply:
            Theologically – no. … Because his allegiance is to Allah.
            Religiously – no.. . .. Because no other religion is accepted by His
            Allah except Islam … (Quran, 2:256) (Koran)
            scripturally – no. .. .. Because his allegiance is to the five
            pillars of Islam and the Quran.
            Geographically – no .. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which
            he turns in prayer five times a day..
            Socially – no. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to
            make friends with Christians or Jews …
            Politically – no… Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders),
            who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
            Domestically – no. .. . Because he is instructed to marry four Women
            and beat his wife when she disobeys him (Quran4:34 )
            Intellectually – no… Because he cannot accept the American
            Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
            the Bible to be corrupt.
            Philosophically – no. . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not
            allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
            Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
            Spiritually – no… Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’
            The Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred
            to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99
            excellent names.
            Therefore, after much study and deliberation….perhaps we should be
            very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot
            be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans/Canadians. Call it what you
            wish, it’s still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand
            this, the better it will be for our countries and our future.
            The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
            Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.

            SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE,

            And Islam, as founded and commanded by its foundation document is a cult of death, practiced at its root
            by those who have no concept of freedom of thought or belief.

          • Fact is, TRUTH undeniable is the Talmud led Judeo Christian western world people have been the most evil, barbaric, savage, and uncivilized until this very date. History is filled with deeds of this absolute fact. A casual check of history clearly identify the Judeo Christians as most major problem for humanity. Colonial imperial invasion of indigenous people’s homeland has been an orgy in murder and theft, as well as slavery and dehumanization of indigenous people, those who escaped the murder kills. Lies and broken word has characterized this morally depleted and psychologically deranged Judeo Christian western world. Trump is excellent example of just how morally, mentally, treacherously evil and deceptive this Judeo Christian world has always been. John Paul (may G-D have mercy on his soul) made public apology to Muslims for violating Jesus Christ by starting the Crusade wars. The Southern Baptist Convention has made public acknowledgement and apologized for its part in slavery, discrimination, and white supremacist actions.
            And maybe it’s not well known that 911 was a Tel Aviv attack upon the USA by Mossad with help from dual citizen Israeli Americans who rule over the USA sovereignty. And what about the deliberate Jewish attack on the USS Liberty, June 8, 1967??? Secret prisons are use by Judeo Christians to torture human life, and dumped Trump made it known he support torture.
            There’s nothing that can be done to change this unchallengeable Judeo Christian reputation. It’s up to today’s Judeo Christian western world to repent for redemption, and to stop the continuation into moral failure that has historically CHARACTERIZED IT.
            Reality is not a dream. And this TRUTH SHALL SET FREE only those who put devotional belief and trust in Divine Moral Guidance for human life and seek mercy and forgiveness from The One G-D Almighty. It’s later than is known. Armageddon shall have it’s grand finale.
            And it does not look promising for the Talmud led and living Judeo Christian western world community. Man’s understanding has fatally wounded the immoral beast.

          • Says the LYING Mudslime barbaric A–wipe! Go kiss and get romantic with your goat or camel!! That’s the ONLY way you’ll get any virgins!!
            I’ve read your Queeran, your full of pig s h i t!!!!

          • when you open your mouth, your ass is showing, and as shit filled as it is, you are bound to be one miserable bum. your soul is doomed – PERIOD!

          • News flash!!!!! allah said one of your brethren raped all the goats and camels!! No more 72 virgins for quite some time!! LMAO!! GFY and your Mudslime brethren!!

          • I really, really hope you Sababu (lying Muslim) are NOT living in my America!
            I send a curse to you!

          • you must be a Kol Nidre praying Jew. you are a total disgrace to what it means to be a woman and human being. since you show you are cursed, it’s no surprise you want to share the misery. your father Satan is no match for The One G-D Almighty. so bring it on – Delilah do as you are bound to with your evil soul and deranged mind.

          • I do wonder about Americans! WHY do we allow them to keep migrating here? WHY?

            Are we just stupid or what?

          • curmudgeon VN Veteran

            Obama and the RATs looking for a new source of votes having aborted so many of their potential future voters.

          • Truly, I do think the corrupt elite would stoop to any low to keep their power!

          • LIAR, LIAR, YOUR PANTS ARE ON HIGH GEAR FIRE!
            YOU MUST BE RELATED TO TRUMP AND HILLARY AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE YOUR LIES ARE STRAIGHTOUT OF THEIR EVIL BOOK OF FALSE TALES. And you probably have one upped them both with your so obvious lies.
            Where are the teachers of history who know and are unafraid to put this liar in his due place – the swamp as headed by swamp rat king – Donald John Trump>

            Fact is, TRUTH undeniable is the Talmud led Judeo Christian western world people have been the most evil, barbaric, savage, and uncivilized until this very date. History is filled with deeds of this absolute fact. A casual check of history clearly identify the Judeo Christians as most major problem for humanity. Colonial imperial invasion of indigenous people’s homeland has been an orgy in murder and theft, as well as slavery and dehumanization of indigenous people.

            Lies and broken words (FORK TONGUE) has ALWAYS characterized this morally depleted and psychologically deranged Judeo Christian western world. Trump is excellent example of just how morally, mentally, treacherously evil and deceptive this Judeo Christian world has always been. Pope John Paul (may G-D have mercy on his soul) made public apology to Muslims for violating Jesus Christ teachings and guidance by starting the Crusade wars. The Southern Baptist Convention has made public acknowledgement and apologized for its part in slavery, discrimination, and white supremacist actions. Apologies have been made, but that does not erase horrific damage done.
            THE TRUE WORD IS TO WATCH WHAT IS DONE TO DETERMINE FACTS OF MATTER. Judeo Christians condemn themselves with own actions that are well known.
            Wolves in cheap sheep cloth accurately describe Judeo Christians moral demeanor. Lip service is all they have ever given religious obligations. Violation of Divine Moral Rules have been habitual. They do not even allow their young students to pray in schools. Abortion has been raised to a birth right as naked dressed females is the rule. Pornography runs rampart with sex crime of prostitution and rape over the top. Use of drugs and alcohol, legal and illegal is epidemic. The traditional family has been replaced by same sex immorality allowing marriage of same. Crime and corruption is so bad that jails are overflowing. Racial arrogance and discrimination is institutionalized and females are still kept on back of bus in employment and other opportunities. Elected and appointed government officials are deep in corruption and will sell their own Moms for a few cents or sexual favor.
            I could go on and on with noting bad character that dominates Judeo Christian world, especially western nations. Enough has been said to make point of exposing your lying sickness to be what it is – in agreement with the Judeo Christian immoral norm.

          • curmudgeon VN Veteran

            Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport lounge in Bozeman, Montana, awaiting their flights.One is an American Indian, passing thru from Lame Deer. Another is a cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show. And the third is a fundamentalist Arab student from the Middle East, newly arrived at Montana State University. Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

            The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around and the old windsock is flapping, but still no plane comes. Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly speaks. “At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few. The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, “Once my people were few,” he sneers, “and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?” The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth, and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl, “That’s ’cause we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it’s a-comin'”.

          • Good story, but there is a great truth spoken by the cowboy, “…we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet….”

            I agree with Cowboy. It must and will happen!

          • Same thing is going on in Minnesota also.

          • I am sorry to know about that.
            I wonder if folk that want more Muslims to migrate here really know what these Muslims really believe?

          • My many years of experience tells me most don’t care as long as it isn’t in my back yard. Remember in 1958 a black women moved into one of the country schools that had been converted into a rental with her 14 kids. The mayor of our town said her kids shouldn’t have to ride the bus everyday to get to school in town. Don’t know why the difference as all the country kids still did. So what did the major do, brought them into town but guess what, way on the other side of town from him. Like most that think we should have our guns taken away while they live behind gated communities with armed guards.

          • I witness similar actions in FL. Liberals from northern states come to this state partly for the warmer weather, but mostly because they can’t afford the taxes and prices in Democratic states.

            So they hide while preaching tolerance and trying to make FL the same kind of state they had to leave.

            Liberals have a problem with using logic and recognizing future consequences of their foolish actions.

          • Yes we have the same problem in Arizona with all those fleeing California and then changing it into another California.

          • This kind of behavior is simply nonsensical!

          • It there anything about liberals that makes sense?

          • I would like to make some sense of their behavior! What is it really that they want for this nation to become? They appear to be against everything good, but what DO they stand for?

      • Columbus was the 1492 equivalent of Neil Armstrong, or the first explorers that will set foot on Mars. Old-world explorers were the bravest of the brave facing the unknown and opening the new world to colonization by many oppressed European people. You make it sound as if they came as invading armies, wiping out the indigenous peoples by military force.
        Literally nothing you have stated is fact. These numbers you throw around are typical ignorant left-wing figures that do not represent the fact that the explorers unintentionally spread old-world diseases and plagues that wiped out the indigenous population. Their damage was inflicted due to ignorance, not militaristic hostility. In turn, the explorers returned to Europe bringing tobacco (and its eventual toll on life) and syphilis with them. Again out of ignorance, not malice.

        • Let us examine Cortez, and the other incoming Spaniards. Native American’s were the slaves that built the missions in Mexico and what is now California. The Spaniards’ cruelty extended to the children, who were indoctrinated to extinguish their culture and speak Spanish and embrace the Catholic religion.

          • Don’t forget that the incoming Spaniards (and others) also brought diseases that killed off many of the Native Americans in Central & South America. This would also occur as the Europeans started exploring North America. The Indian’s bodies simply had no immunity against these new diseases.

          • Much like the American Indians I know, they tell of being taken from their protesting parents at an extremely young age. Forced to go to ‘schools’ without seeing their families for years, not allowed to speak their native language. In fact they were punished if caught speaking spanish or any Indian dialect.

        • The ‘murderous army’ operated under orders from the power brokers in Washington.

      • would you be willing to give America back to the native Americans – I didn’t think so!!

      • Why do you state that “…it is one of the greatest genocides in human history that has been hidden and swept under the rug…”? The facts are there for all to see.
        Many Indians CHOSE to assimilate.
        When I was teaching in the public schools in Oklahoma, I would ask for a show of hands of those students who were part Indian. It was always over two thirds or more.
        However, some Indians didn’t and still don’t assimilate. Some live in poverty on reservations.
        I am not impressed with those.
        I am also part Indian. Although I am proud of that, I am still glad that the Europeans came to this land and filled it. I wouldn’t want to still be living the Indian life of that day.

        • They didn’t choose, they had no chose. They survived and multiplied since crossing over to this continent 12,000-15,000 yrs. ago. from Asia, on land. My husband is 28%Native American/Asian. They could not speak their own language or have their celebrations. They were forced to learn Spanish and become Catholics. The part Natives of today have no idea how their ancestors lived. They have become Americanized. They can never go back to their civilization, no matter how hard they try. You proved your point. My husband and I love the earth, however it is being destroyed. Civilization much?

          • I agree that our earth is being destroyed. World population is increasing exponentially and consumption and industrialization are taking a toll on our earth.

            I have no solution to this dilemma. Possibly, world governments, as suggested in Agenda 21 by John Anthony on YouTube, will become involved in this.

            Quien Sabe????

        • Anyone from Oklahoma knows of the Osage people and their struggle to survive under the federal government! People could and did go to war, fight for America and then came home to find they were not allowed to handle their own money nor to even write a check on their bank accounts. The Osage were luckier than most…they were forced to sell their land to the people moving into the state, and moved to an area of the feds choosing. VERY fortunately one of their elders insisted on the tribe always retaining the rights to all wealth UNDER their land! When oil was discovered they prospered greatly and then suddenly began being ‘mysteriously’ murdered at an astonishing pace! Their terrified heirs were then forced to sell to whites. Only the involvement of a young J. Edgar Hoover and the newly formed FBI bringing charges to one group of criminals and going to trial, brought an so called end to the reign of terror, but many, many murders were never solved to this day.

        • A lot of them don’t because of the ‘reign of terror’ that took place I believe around the late ’20’s when oil was discovered on their land and they were being murdered for their wealth. They learned to be terrified of, and not to trust any white person, or any govt. official. Nor do they want to do anything with them today because of the sordid history of the way they were treated. Much like the Oglallah Sioux when gold was discovered on their lands.

          • A lot of those killings were Indians killing each other.

          • You need to re-read the history of the Osage Indians in 1920 Oklahoma! A good place to start would be the book “Killers of the Flower Moon…the story of the Osage murders and the birth of the FBI”

          • Sooner or later, everyone should take responsibility for themselves, not play the blame game of past grievances! What a waste of time and living to play the blame game!

        • Few people know that one of the highest suicide rates was Native American women – BEFORE Columbus, who never set foot on US soil. Learn history or be prepared to live it yourself. Native American women have rights today that never would have happened before 1492.

          • Interesting! Since this was before Columbus, do you know where those stats came from? Indian lore, perhaps?

        • PEACE IN…
          ACCORDING TO DIVINE MORAL GUIDANCE FOR HUMAN LIFE, AS REVEALED AND FOUND IN SCRIPTURES OF ABRAHAMIC FAITH COMMUNITIES OF JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, AND AL-ISLAM, The Talmud led Judeo Christian people have habitually lived in near total violation of moral requirement of their faiths. A murderer, robber, and thief is a war criminal who commits crimes against humanity. This is the undeniable legacy of the Judeo Christian western world. No matter how successful at engineering the physical world, the true and life sustaining measurement is moral by Divine Standards, at which the Judeo Christians are total failure.
          The human being is a moral creation by nature. Failure to live satisfactorily by morality shall destroy human beings because of rejection of living by the behavior design given by the Chief Designer – The One Creator Almighty. The Ten Commandments are foundation for that moral behavior, with the last ten being universal applicable to all, even to those who live by their right not to believe in a Supreme One G-D Almighty because there simply can not be exceptions to duty of not harming one another, which the seven rules inherently disallow. Jails are full of those who violate these universal moral behavior rules to live by.
          It’s understandable you are satisfied with material progress and educational advancement that led to what is established as progress. However, you must not let that divide your attention from the failed moral needs that continue to plague human society to its own detriment. The human being, living by man’s fallible understanding, has developed weapons of mass destruction capable of terminating all life forms, plant and animal. All because of failure to abide by universal moral standards that prevent such possibility. The mad rush to material acquisition has been a main fault leading to moral decay, selfishness, and civic harm. Capitalism and its rush for profit at all cost, no matter the material harm to earth and to human life itself is man’s understanding on steroids.
          Too many Jews and Christians do not apply Divine guidance to everyday living, private and public because there has been an ung-dly rebellion having power and influence to lead human beings away from living by Divine. Thousand s of years ago, the Hebrew/Israeli/Jewish people brought curse upon themselves for their habitual refusal and rejection of The G-D and living by guidance provided to them. Their consistent, persistent, and insistent refusal to accept responsibility to live by Divine curse them to become the human embodiment of Satan – devils. They have been Satan’s operatives amongst the human family, earth agent devils missioned to disconnect from Divine Moral life by spreading corruption, sin, filth, and disbelief wherever they wander on earth. Living by Divine would have prevented murder killing and theft of indigenous people’s homelands. North and South America, Australia, New Zealand, the islands in the Caribbean, have all been taken from original inhabitants who were murder killed in orgies of genocide. Talmud led Judeo Christian western world establish the African slave trade wherein human beings were treated like none in the history of human life. Judeo Christians have always been war mongers fighting to have material, political, and society/cultural dominance wherever they set up rule. The Babylonian Talmud is writings by Rabbis that Most Jews accept to live by instead of living by Divine Guidance of Torah.
          Man’s Talmud belief and life style is the devil live on earth and is the root cause of near all major human problems today as well as yesterday back for centuries. Jews have been the dominant influence in western world development and they control and rule by bribe, blackmail, threats, murder kill, etcetera in order to maintain their evil control. They have control over near all western nations with the USA being totally under their dominance.
          One classic example of this rebellion and its influence is color racism. Color conscious conscience racism originated about 2nd century when Babylonian Talmud mindset Rabbis deliberately gave a blasphemous, false, evil, ung-dly, and divisive interpretation to Bible story in which they invented lie that Ham and Canaan were cursed to be black skinned and top be slaves for perpetuity- the so-called “Curse of Ham” doctrine that was
          taught to innocent, unaware, unsuspecting, and mostly illiterate Europeans for centuries, indoctrinating them to become white supremacist. The brainwashed Europeans were used as slave army for material and political conquest by Jews who remained behind the scene as chief advisors to religious and secular leaders, as they still do today enriching themselves by the opportunity and off carnage created from the racial divide.
          I can go on and on with this. I think I’ll stop now. But Two books are recommended –
          a) “Why Christianity Must Change or Die” by retired Episcopal Bishop John S. Spong
          b) “The Secret Relations Between Blacks and Jews” by Nation of Islam Research Department
          Dear Beloved, human society is capable of correcting itself only if it accept life saving life styles that live by Divine Moral Guidance. It’s truly just that simple.
          Muslims are the best at living by moral conduct guided by Divine Standards. Anything does not go with Muslims and Muslims are not afraid to stand by Divine life styles. This makes Muslims at odds with the Judeo Christian culture that ignore Divine Guidance and live by man’s Talmud dominated understanding. Talmud JEWRY CONTROL SOCIETY AND USE THAT POEWER TO DEMONIZE MUSLIMS AS ENEMIES OF HUMANITY.
          911 WAS A Talmud Jewish Mossad operation used to turn the world against Islam and Muslims who maintain more devotional attitude and practice of living by Divine, whereas Christians have been convinced to do it their own way, but really are following what these Talmudist devils set up to influence them.
          The Judeo Christians have been war mongering for thousands of years. It’s time to expose this fact so that we all can be knowledgeable for freeing ourselves from their intent to rule over us in dictatorial tyranny in a planned “Jew world order.”
          ALL TRIBES IN A UNITED ONE HUMAN FAMILY MUST TRUTHFULLY KNOW, FULLY EXPOSE, DIRECTLY CONFRONT, AND FIGHT UNCOMPROMISINGLY TO TOTALLY DEFEAT AND TO COMPLETE ELIMINATE THIS TALMUD PROBLEM THAT HAS PLAGUED OUR LIVES AND DESTINY FOR FAR, FAR, FAR TOO LONG.
          “FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK G-D ALMIGHTY, FREE AT LAST”
          PEACE IN…PEACE OUT…

      • I don’t know where you obtained your information but you are blatantly wrong. Also Columbus had nothing to do with the demise of the population as that came much later. Also you need to read the history of the development of Europe to see the same thing happened there over and over as “civilization” moved from east to west.
        As 79 year old over 50% Mescalero and Lipan Apache, who has read hundreds of writings on Columbus written by his contemporaries and Columbus himself, I am sad at the denigration of Columbus by those who have never read a word of Columbus’s own writings on indigenous people of the Americas.

        Also many of the detractors don’t know he never placed a foot on this continent. They blame him for things he abhorred that others did. Slavery was already here in the Americas before 1492 as tribes enslaved members of other tribes who they chose not to kill. Sacajawea was a captured by the Minatare tribe and sold to the Mandan who sold her to Toussaint Charbonneau as a wife.
        MORE LATER

        • Interesting! I do hope you write MORE LATER.

          • Columbus was not a perfect manor the historic villain a few recent critics paint him, Christopher Columbus a man ahead of his time whose voyage changed the course of world history by permanently connecting peoples of the world for the first time.

            The first opposition to Columbus was in the 1920s when the Ku Klux Klan mounted a bigoted campaign against him because he was Catholic, Italian and sailed under the Spanish flag. This was a period when the Klan politically controlled several Midwestern states along with Maryland and Colorado.

            Columbus attacks today are driven by radical activist professors who seek to warp history with a predetermined political agenda.
            Contemporary attacks on Columbus are sometimes unknowingly influenced by anti-Spanish propaganda known as the “La Leyenda Negra,” originating in the 1500s during English and Dutch conflict with Spain who portrayed the Spanish as brutal and untrustworthy.

            As a Third Order Franciscan, Columbus was often seen wearing the Franciscan habit, particularly when in the presence of clergy or nobility. His close personal association with the Franciscans was instrumental in securing contacts in the royal court, and provided much needed encouragement when it seemed the enterprise would never get the support it required. His son Diego remained in the care of the Franciscans at the monastery of La Rabida near Palos, Spain during the first voyage, where the friars took charge of his education. Upon his return to Spain, Columbus spent the summer of 1493 at La Rabida, preparing spiritually for the second voyage later that year.

            Chistians’ Great Debt to Columbus
            The events of 1492 and afterward could have transpired far differently. The richest nation in the world at the time was China, followed by the Islamic caliphates which stretched from Morocco to the edges of the Far East to include half the Philippines . Why didn’t the Chinese expand their empire to the east across the Pacific? The Chinese have a portion of written ancient records of visits to the western portion of the North American continent from Canada to Mexico, the first in 2450 BC and the second 400 to 500 AD. After each return trip home to China the emperor ordered the fleet to be burned and records hidden. Why was it not a Muslim who established lasting contact between the continents?

            Modern historians are at a loss to answer these questions, and conclude that it was simply by chance that events unfolded as they did.I answered the Chinese question in the preceding paragraph. This hardly explains the fact that Spain was the poorest nation in Western Europe at the time, bankrupt from its completion of the Reconquista*. Yet not only did Spain successfully go about colonizing and evangelizing the Americas, it also kept the Muslims out of the Americas. Had Islam spread to the Americas in place of Christianity, what we know today as the United States could very well have been the United Emirates.

            Scholars have been quick to point to the influence of Marco Polo’s Book of the Marvels of the World upon Columbus and his contemporaries, and rightly so. Yet the chapter which most influenced Columbus himself was the introduction. In it, we read of Polo’s father and uncle, Niccolò and Maffeo Polo, travelling to the Orient while Marco was still an infant. Their extensive travels eventually put them into contact with Kublai Khan, referred to in the book as the Great Khan. The Great Khan questioned them about life in Western Europe and the Catholic Faith, in which he took an interest. Upon their departure, he entrusted them with a letter to the Pope requesting 100 missionaries to instruct his kingdom in the Catholic faith, along with oil from the lamp at the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem. On the return of the Polos to the West in 1268, they discovered Pope Clement IV had died, and the long interregnum which followed prevented the Khan’s requests from being fulfilled.

            In his petitions to Ferdinand and Isabella over a period of 7 years, it was Columbus’ desire to fulfill the Great Khan’s request which finally persuaded the sovereigns to approve the journey. Aboard his flagship was a letter to the Great Khan from the king and queen, and Columbus went to great lengths in order to deliver it. In the prologue to the report on the first voyage, Columbus directly addresses this evangelistic mission:

            “I had given [a report] to Your Highnesses about the lands of India and about a prince who is called ‘Grand Khan,’. . .how he had sent to Rome to ask for men learned in our Holy Faith in order that they might instruct him in it, yet the Holy Father had never granted his request, and thus so many people were lost, falling into idolatry and accepting false and harmful religions; and Your Highnesses, as Catholic Christians and Princes, lovers and promoters of the Holy Christian Faith. . . thought of sending me, Cristobal Colon. . . to see how their conversion to our Holy Faith might be undertaken.”

            Five centuries after the fact, American Jesuit Fr. John Hardon would remark, “It is one thing to say that Columbus discovered America. It is something else to realize that he opened the door to the most phenomenal spread of Christianity since the time of St. Paul.”

            Five centuries after the fact, American Jesuit Fr. John Hardon would remark, “It is one thing to say that Columbus discovered America. It is something else to realize that he opened the door to the most phenomenal spread of Christianity since the time of St. Paul.” Columbus believed he was specially chosen by God to bring the Gospel to a people who were living in darkness and the shadow of death. He believed his given name, Christopher, signified the mission he was destined to carry out, as his son Fernando would later explain: “Just as Saint Christopher bore Christ over the waters, so too was he to bear the light of the Gospel over the vast oceans.”

            In conclusion, spreading the Catholic faith and acquiring riches so as to finance the retaking of Jerusalem from the Muslims were at the heart of Columbus’ mission. Any hopes of personal rewards or honors were secondary. In writing the royal treasurer of Spain at the completion of the first journey, he gives the reason all people, present and future, should celebrate what would come to be known as Columbus Day:

            “And now ought the King, Queen, Princes, and all their dominions, as well as the whole of Christians, to give thanks to our Savior Jesus Christ who has granted us such a victory and great success. Let processions be ordered, let solemn festivals be celebrated, let the temples be filled with boughs and flowers. Let Christ rejoice upon earth as he does in heaven, to witness the coming salvation of so many people, heretofore given over to perdition. Let us rejoice for the exaltation of our faith, as well as for the augmentation of our temporal prosperity, in which not only Spain but all Christendom shall participate.”

            Five Myths About Christopher Columbus
            1. MYTH: Columbus was sailing to prove the world was round.

            FACT: Every educated person at the end of the fifteenth century knew the earth was a sphere, a fact known since the Greeks. What was in dispute was the earth’s circumference, which Columbus underestimated by one-fourth.

            2. MYTH: Queen Isabella sold her crown jewels to finance the first journey.

            FACT: The royal treasury of Spain was depleted after the completion of the conquest of Granada early in 1492. However, Luis de Santangel, the royal treasurer, was able to secure funding by reaching out to the Crusading societies throughout the Mediterranean, as well as other financial backers from Spain and elsewhere. The crown put up very little to finance the journey.

            3. MYTH: There was a priest on board the Santa Maria in 1492.

            FACT: Because of the dangers involved, there were no priests or friars on the first voyage, despite the deep piety of Columbus. Many of the paintings of the first landfall in the new world on San Salvador show a priest with Columbus—contrary to the facts. There were five priests on the second voyage: Benedictine Father Buil; the Jeronymite Father Ramon Pane; and three Franciscans.

            4. MYTH: Columbus introduced slavery to the New World.

            FACT: Slavery was already widespread among the native Indians when Columbus arrived. Columbus was insistent on the fair treatment of the Indians, a policy which gained him many enemies as governor of Hispaniola. Bartolome de las Casas, a Spanish friar who worked for the protection of the native Indians, is quick to excoriate his fellow Spaniards in their grave abuses, but is filled with nothing but respect and admiration for Columbus. The mass subjugation and importation of Africans, Irish and others to the Americas did not begin until a generation after Columbus’ death.

            5. MYTH: Columbus died a pauper, in chains, in a Spanish prison.

            FACT: Despite the fact that the Spanish crown retracted some of the privileges promised to Columbus, he was relatively wealthy at the time of his death. Although he returned to Spain in chains in 1500 after his third voyage, the King and Queen apologized for the misunderstanding and had them removed.

            Bartolome de las Casas a contempoary of Columbus and renowned defender of Indian rights, defended Columbus’ motives and character. Coulmbus had several Spaniards executed for mistreatment of Indians.

            *The Reconquista (Spanish for the “reconquest”) is the period of history of the Iberian Peninsula spanning approximately 770 years between the Islamic conquest of Hispania in 710 and the fall of the last Islamic state in Iberia at Granada to the expanding Christian kingdoms in 1492. The Reconquista ended immediately before the European re-discovery of the Americas—the “New World”—which ushered in the era of the Portuguese and Spanish colonial empires.

      • Your numbers are more than a little suspect. Your “genocide” is because the Europeans brought germs that the native peoples had no resistance to, not to any policy of extermination.

      • How did anyone come up with that fact (12-15 million) Its a known fact that the tribes on the east coast did not of the tribes in the mid west or the west coast, Columbus did not take a census either. yes, many problems came from Europe, since explorers come from all over Europe, and Columbus was not the first!!!!!

      • I’ve read a lot of Indian history and have never come across those large numbers…..

    • If they were around in 1490’s they would have been burned at the stake!!

    • Europeans, Africans, Asians, or even Chinese or India Indians.

    • Again, Columbus wanted nothing to do with adventure or exploration. He was looking to line his pockets by filling those three tiny ships with spices from India. The Caribbean Islands got in his way. In later voyages, he bounced around the Central and South American coasts, looking for a way to leave Hispaniola in his wake and to continue on to India. He was a greedy tyrant and he never came within sight of North America.

      • Well Jim, it’s 526 years after the fact. So the basic question to you is – who really gives a rats rear end? The point here is, people are getting their hair in a knot over nothing that directly affects their lives today. So, why waste the energy, just so people can hear themselves scream about something that is irrelevant in their daily lives? People like Jim Dandy and all the other Columbus haters out there, is that what you’re really pissed about?

  3. Don’t you mean lieing about Columbus AND lieing about the Nobel Savage does nothing to currently help the indigenous people. There was practices of slavery and yes, cannibalism among indigenous tribes of the Americas. Add in a bit of human sacrifice and a more true history emerges.

  4. As a legal Native American I think the situation is deplorable. It shows liberals have totally lost it. Next thing will be book burning in the public square, I suggest thy start with Hillary Clinton’s new book!

  5. If America had never been built into the powerful nation it because then Germany would have easily won WW2 along with Japan. Now what do you think those countries would have done with the natives of north America. My opinion is none would exist today.

  6. SPANISH Americans SLAUGHTERED Indians more than any other group!

    • WILL MEXICANS APOLOGIZE to the Indians for the thousands and thousands they slaughtered??

      • Mexicans are not Spanish. Mexicans only speak a form of Spanish, because they were the “conquistadors.” Also, they have taken Spanish surnames. Majority of Mexicans don’t have a drop of Spanish blood.
        And “SPANISH Americans SLAUGHTERED Indians”. No. They would have been Spanish. Not many “SPANISH Americans” around then.
        So it would be the Spanish owing an apology to “Indians”, Mexicans and South Americans.
        Actually pretty stupid to believe anyone today owes anyone an apology for something that happened 400 -500 years ago.

        • Almost as stupid as thinking you should be paid by people who never owned slaves or for others who ancestors may or may not have owned slaves generations ago. Only 14% of the South owned slaves, yet ALL white Americans supposedly need to ‘pay up’!

        • You are wrong. All the ‘Mexican’s’, as you call them, have Iberian Peninsula DNA, except the Indios. My brother’s mother’s
          ancestors were born in California, before it was a State. They were not born in Mexico, as you know it. They are mixed Native American and Iberian Peninsula.

      • Mexico was not a Country at the time where that history took place. What is a Mexican? A Mexican is a native of Mexico. I have relatives that are called ‘Mexicans’. They have always been native to California. They are mixed with Iberian Peninsula DNA, of course. ‘Mexico’ included Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Oregon and Washington. ‘Columbus Day’ would be great if it stimulated some people to research history.

    • Not true. As a 79 year old Apache who majored in history and engineering I have read thousands of diaries, books and Library of congress documents to include Cortez’s diary on the conquest of Tenochtitlan (Aztec capitol city, Mexico City today) Cortez had thousands of Indian allies when he marched into Tenochtitlan. Also I have read the Mexican translated Aztec codices on the conquest and they talk about the Indian allies and their numbers. I purchased it in Mexico City in 1983 where I spent three weeks on my 25th wedding anniversary. I continue to read. So far this year I have read over 50 books or diaries.
      I also have two copies of “The True Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz Castillo, a sergeant in Cortez’s 400 man army and. originally published in 1540 when he was governor of Guatemala. The word
      Spain in the title was changed by the English to Mexico. Ask yourself this, If the Spaniards killed more indigenous people than anyone, why are there so many more millions left in Mexico and South American than where the English conquered. Might it be because the English wrote their biased unobserved historical opinion because the Spanish were Catholic and arrived almost 100 years before the English? As an after-thought. The palace guard was over ten thousand warriors, how could less than 400, some had died of sickness, defeat that number without allies? The Azteca had body armor that Spaniard adopted later in place of their metal armor. Both the Aztecs and Incas sandwiched cotton between layers of cloth and leather and stitched the whole thing together, creating quilted vests and body suits. This cotton armor was very dense and could be two fingers thick, and it repelled arrows and spears almost as well as a Spanish steel breastplate. Plus, cotton armor was much lighter, cooler, and more flexible, which probably erased the breastplate’s advantage in toughness. That’s why so many conquistadors fought in native armor.
      I don’t actually mean that steel had no advantages in the battle for the Americas. The Spanish offensive weapons — swords, lances, crossbows, etc. — killed more effectively than the natives’ wood and stone swords, spears, bows, and clubs (though the difference wasn’t as great as you might think). But steel’s advantage apparently wasn’t enough to overcome the advances of Pre-Columbian fabric technology.

      • You really need to write a book on this and include all of your statements on these “forums”.

        • Thank you for your comment Allen I will be 80 years old in February and when I returned to Wyoming in 1995 after being gone for 32 years I learned that several people had followed my life while I was gone through news articles and letters sent by their children who lived in California when I did. A few years after being home and writing letters to the editor almost every week, some were asking me to write the story of my life from the time I left the orphanage here at the end of 9th grade. I am 70 in the picture you see. It was our 50th wedding anniversary. The little girl is one of our many great grandchildren. She is now 11 years old and is proud to be Apache and all her other ethnicities but mostly an American. I started a couple of books several years ago but was caught up in local polotics and devoted my time to keeping the mayor in office and making sure he had a council that would do the best for our little city. When I left California after the democrats took over I said I was done with polotics but that lasted only 4 years.

      • If the books were written in Spanish, I would disregard them. Why? because in Mexico the elite are the Spaniards, or the Spanish ‘want a be’s’. I have relatives in Mexico, and they know history and the Native American history doesn’t chive with the Spanish.

        • I don’t understand what you mean by “Native American history doesn’t chive with the Spanish”. Chive is a long fine hollow leaf with a strong onion flavor used for seasoning food. Also if you try to find Native American in historical documents you won’t find it. Using that negates our history. Full bloods were not allowed to be United States citizens until the June 1924 Citizenship act was passed. Not allowed to vote in any state until 1948 and in Colorado and Utah not until 1970. Neither law said Native American.
          Of course The True Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz Castillo was written in Spanish in 1540 as he was born in Spain and not in Mexico. The Aztec’s books are in Aztec codices of which there are many styles.
          Most of the hundreds of books I have read on the subject were written by Spaniards, not Mexicans, including Cortez’s diary and other of his writings. I have been reading since I was 4 years old, 75 years, and adult level books since the 5th grade, 69 years. If you’ve not read any books on this subject where do you derive you authority to disregard any of the books I or anyone has read? Everyone has a right to an opinion so it doesn’t bother me what others say. Below is a list of information I invite you to read. Thanks for your interest and comments.
          1. Elizabeth Hill Boone, “Pictorial Documents and Visual Thinking in Postconquest Mexico”. p. 158.
          2. Barbara E. Mundy, “Indigenous Dances in Early Colonial Mexico City,” in ‘’Festivals & Daily Life in the Arts of Colonial Latin America, 1492-1850: Papers from the 2012 Mayer Center Symposium at the Denver Art Museum’’, edited by Donna Pierce. Denver: Denver Art Museum 2014, pp. 20-26.
          3. Howard F. Cline, review of Codex Osuna in Hispanic American Historical Review vol. xx, 580-81.
          4. Pintura del Gobernador, Alcaldes, y Regidores de México. Códice en geroglíficos mexicanos y en lenguas castellana y azteca, existente en la biblioteca del Exmo. Señor Duque de Osuna. Publicase por vez primera con la autorización competente. Madrid, Imprenta de Manuel G. Hernández, 1878
          5. Codice Osuna, Reproducción facsimilar de la obra del mismo título, editada en Madrid, 1878. Acompanada de 158 páginas ineditas encontradas en el Archivo General de la Nacion (Mexico) por el Prof. Luis Chavez Orozco. Ediciones del Instituto Indigenista Interamericano, Mexico, DF 1947
          6. Howard F. Cline, review of Codex Osuna in Hispanic American Historical Review vol. xx, 580-81.
          7. Charles Gibson, The Aztecs Under Spanish Rule. Stanford University Press, 1964
          8. Howard F. Cline, review of Codex Osuna in Hispanic American Historical Review vol. xx, 580-81.
          9. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, pp.274-279; commentary p. 314
          10. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, p. 43
          11. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, p. 43
          12. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, p. 43
          13. Aubin Tonalamatl, Trafficking Culture Encyclopedia
          14. Jacqueline de Durand-Forest, ed. Codex Ixtlilxochitl: Bibliothèque nationale, Paris (Ms. Mex. 55-710). Fontes rerum Mexicanarum 8. Graz, Austria: Akademische Druck- und Verlagsanstalt 1976.
          15. Howard F. Cline, “The Oztoticpac Lands Map of Texcoco, 1540,” in The Quarterly Journal of the Library of Congress, April 1966, pp. 77-115. Cline also cites a lawsuit by Pedro de Vergara against the Holy Office of the Inquisition in the Archivo General de la Nación, Inquisición vol 139, expediente 11, fols 60-72v over trees owned by the late Don Carlos, executed by the Inquisition in 1539.
          16. Howard F. Cline, “The Oztoticpac Lands Map of Texcoco, 1540,” in A la Carte: Selected Papers on Maps and Atlases,Washington, DC: Library of Congress 1972, pp. 5-33.
          17. Eloise Quiñones Keber, Eloise. Codex Telleriano-Remensis: Ritual, Divination, and History in a Pictorial Aztec Manuscript. University of Texas Press 1995. ISBN 978-0-292-76901-4.
          18. Hans J. Prem, Matrícula de Huexotzinco. Graz: Druck und Verlagsanstalt 1974.
          19. Diego Muñoz Camargo. Historia de Tlaxcala (Ms. 210 de la Biblioteca Nacional de París). Ed. Luis Reyes García y Javier Lira Toledo. Tlaxcala: Gobierno del Estado de Tlaxcala/Universidad Autónoma de Tlaxcala, 1992.
          20. M. Jorge et al. (2011). Mathematical accuracy of Aztec land surveys assessed from records in the Codex Vergara. PNAS: University of Michigan.
          21. Barbara J. Williams, Harvey, H. R. (1997). The Códice De Santa María Asunción : Facsimile and Commentary : Households and Lands in Sixteenth-century Tepetlaoztoc. Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press. ISBN 0-87480-522-8
          22. Sigvald Linné, El valle y la ciudad de México en 1550. Relacióon histórica fundada sobre un mapa geográfico, que se conserva en la biblioteca de la Universidad de Uppsala, Suecia. Stockholm: 1948

      • I don’t understand what you mean by “Native American history doesn’t chive with the Spanish”. Chive is a long fine hollow leaf with a strong onion flavor used for seasoning food. Also if you try to find Native American in histological documents you won’t find it. Using that negates our history. Full bloods were not allowed to be United States citizens until the June 1924 Citizenship act was passed. Not allowed to vote in any state until 1948 and in Colorado and Utah not until 1970. Neither law said Native American.
        Of course The True Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz Castillo was written in Spanish in 1540 as he was born in Spain and not in Mexico. The Aztec’s books are in Aztec codices of which there are many styles.
        Most of the hundreds of books I have read on the subject were written by Spaniards, not Mexicans, including Cortez’s diary and other of his writings. I have been reading since I was 4 years old, 75 years, and adult level books since the 5th grade, 69 years. If you’ve not read any books on this subject where do you derive you authority to disregard any of the books I or anyone has read? Everyone has a right to an opinion so it doesn’t bother me what others say. Below is a list of information I invite you to read. Thanks for your interest and comments.
        1. Elizabeth Hill Boone, “Pictorial Documents and Visual Thinking in Postconquest Mexico”. p. 158.
        2. Barbara E. Mundy, “Indigenous Dances in Early Colonial Mexico City,” in ‘’Festivals & Daily Life in the Arts of Colonial Latin America, 1492-1850: Papers from the 2012 Mayer Center Symposium at the Denver Art Museum’’, edited by Donna Pierce. Denver: Denver Art Museum 2014, pp. 20-26.
        3. Howard F. Cline, review of Codex Osuna in Hispanic American Historical Review vol. xx, 580-81.
        4. Pintura del Gobernador, Alcaldes, y Regidores de México. Códice en geroglíficos mexicanos y en lenguas castellana y azteca, existente en la biblioteca del Exmo. Señor Duque de Osuna. Publicase por vez primera con la autorización competente. Madrid, Imprenta de Manuel G. Hernández, 1878
        5. Codice Osuna, Reproducción facsimilar de la obra del mismo título, editada en Madrid, 1878. Acompanada de 158 páginas ineditas encontradas en el Archivo General de la Nacion (Mexico) por el Prof. Luis Chavez Orozco. Ediciones del Instituto Indigenista Interamericano, Mexico, DF 1947
        6. Howard F. Cline, review of Codex Osuna in Hispanic American Historical Review vol. xx, 580-81.
        7. Charles Gibson, The Aztecs Under Spanish Rule. Stanford University Press, 1964
        8. Howard F. Cline, review of Codex Osuna in Hispanic American Historical Review vol. xx, 580-81.
        9. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, pp.274-279; commentary p. 314
        10. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, p. 43
        11. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, p. 43
        12. James Lockhart, We People Here: Nahuatl Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, translated and edited. University of California Press, 1991, p. 43
        13. Aubin Tonalamatl, Trafficking Culture Encyclopedia
        14. Jacqueline de Durand-Forest, ed. Codex Ixtlilxochitl: Bibliothèque nationale, Paris (Ms. Mex. 55-710). Fontes rerum Mexicanarum 8. Graz, Austria: Akademische Druck- und Verlagsanstalt 1976.
        15. Howard F. Cline, “The Oztoticpac Lands Map of Texcoco, 1540,” in The Quarterly Journal of the Library of Congress, April 1966, pp. 77-115. Cline also cites a lawsuit by Pedro de Vergara against the Holy Office of the Inquisition in the Archivo General de la Nación, Inquisición vol 139, expediente 11, fols 60-72v over trees owned by the late Don Carlos, executed by the Inquisition in 1539.
        16. Howard F. Cline, “The Oztoticpac Lands Map of Texcoco, 1540,” in A la Carte: Selected Papers on Maps and Atlases,Washington, DC: Library of Congress 1972, pp. 5-33.
        17. Eloise Quiñones Keber, Eloise. Codex Telleriano-Remensis: Ritual, Divination, and History in a Pictorial Aztec Manuscript. University of Texas Press 1995. ISBN 978-0-292-76901-4.
        18. Hans J. Prem, Matrícula de Huexotzinco. Graz: Druck und Verlagsanstalt 1974.
        19. Diego Muñoz Camargo. Historia de Tlaxcala (Ms. 210 de la Biblioteca Nacional de París). Ed. Luis Reyes García y Javier Lira Toledo. Tlaxcala: Gobierno del Estado de Tlaxcala/Universidad Autónoma de Tlaxcala, 1992.
        20. M. Jorge et al. (2011). Mathematical accuracy of Aztec land surveys assessed from records in the Codex Vergara. PNAS: University of Michigan.
        21. Barbara J. Williams, Harvey, H. R. (1997). The Códice De Santa María Asunción : Facsimile and Commentary : Households and Lands in Sixteenth-century Tepetlaoztoc. Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press. ISBN 0-87480-522-8

  7. That is typical of liberal Democrats because they never accomplish anything for anybody anyway!

  8. Help me understand what you are saying. The loss of more than half of the indigenous population on this continent is not worth any recognition. Why? Is it their skin color?

    • I’m offended i”m half Chippewa,why does EVERYTHING have to do with RACE! September 4th is Native American Day, it’s not on the calendar, I know this because it’s my birthday. Not all has to do with the color of your skin. It’ the ignorant way of thinking, when I was a kid I was called red skin, after awhile in the 60’s all wanted to be Indian..anything different scares people, its the NEW that they fear, once a conversation begins, understanding comes into play, so the fear starts to fade and it becomes acceptable.

    • As an Apache. On my own since the end of the ninth grade and retired at 51, I am not astounded by the ignorance of history displayed by most people. The same thing that happened to we indigenous people happened all over the world as “civilization” pushed west out of Asia killing millions upon millions of people. England was invaded more than a dozen times by Buttons, Normans, Vikings, and Romans just to name a few. This is the only country who, especially here in the west, let us keep some of the land we occupied, our culture, language and religion. If it happened as in England you’d have to read history to know we ever existed. Plus we have electricity, cars, computers, food year round etc. We need to take what exists today and do the best we can. To dwell on the negatives of the past is nonproductive and one will find nothing but failure.

      • Truer words can’t be spoken but it seems there are some that want to dwell on the past and many more followers that probably don’t even know why.

        • It is astonishing to me that the liberals want to destroy American values for old, old ideas such as communism, progressivism (a 1900’s term used before Marx and Lenin) that have FAILED MISERABLY AND REPEATEDLY!

          • Remember when Nikita Khrushchev said we will defeat you from within. Well guess what, his plan is in full progression as with communism they have patents on their side. Big forward was when they got rid of McCarthy.

      • You are so Right!!! Let’s face it when America was new it was an entirely different world, with different customs. There were some really rough times and really rough people and customs in those days! Ever heard of the ‘dark ages’? Burning people at the stake? Drawing and quartering someone? Slavery was common……America was the FIRST NATION TO REJECT A KING! America was the first nation to REJECT SLAVERY…..BECAUSE OF IT”S CONSTITUTION!
        The world has been constantly evolving and will continue to do so. America has been at the forefront for growth and personal liberty and making the world a better place. Remember WWII? This is not a perfect country, but it is the best country on earth with the best privileges for the entire population as a whole. If you think there are poor in America…..I suggest you tour the slums of South America, the poorer regions of Europe and Asia! You will be astonished to learn that the ‘poor’ of America are exponentially better off than the poor in any other region in the world!

  9. how dare these haters, leftist liberals think they own the country! a bunch of nuts who cry and whine at every turn! I’m so happy Trump exposed these dopes for what they are – lunatics

  10. lefty’s must sit around all day thinking up wild crazy things to be unhappy about. Maybe that is why they never smile and always mad looking like someone is after them. Why are they so unhappy, we on the right understand nothing is perfect and we all do not agree regardless if left or right, but we on the right appreciate what our fore fathers starting with Columbus did for us so that over time all our ancestor’s built and enhanced the generations before us efforts did so that we have such a wonderful place to live with so much to be thankful. Yes many people form many country’s would love to live in America legally and it has and does happen for those who inter legally and not start off by breaking the laws of the land. Lefties seem to embrace Communism ( they call it Progressive these days) which if they researched they could find their dream in Venezuela to day as they have achieved the left dream for a happy country for them to live. Bananas anyone.

  11. As a Native American Indian I am appalled by all of this nonsense! We can not change history, but we “should” learn from it…Islam and Communism are infiltrating America with this very same intent…genocide! Stupid Is As Stupid Does…

  12. If the history was not one sided to teach students lies, then I don’t think so many including the right, would have misgivings. Columbus didn’t land in America, he landed on islands in the Caribbean. Explorers, back to the beginning when humans inhabited the earth, have always moved to other regions, for many reasons, food being number one. These holidays honoring explorers, that were not heroes, is a waste. Historical facts are needed instead of a few person’s perceptions.

  13. Well, I am somewhat of a history nut. I love researching stuff. Like, “Where did we get all of these different religions if they are using the same Bible”??? You would be amazed!!!… Anyhoo, Chris didn’t really “discover” America. That has been proven. And guess what? I don’t really give a flip!!! We are here and it was by “design”!! This GREAT COUNTRY exists due to a “PROMISE” given to that Great Patriarch Abraham by our Creator God!!! (Not to bring religion into this but), You must start your research from the “NOW” and work your way BACKWARDS!!! You will also find WHY Great Britain (at one time in the past) ruled over 2/3 of the entire globe!!! COLUMBUS??? He’s not even a drop in the bucket. I no longer celebrate a Columbus “holiday”. THAT is “fake news”. Peace.

  14. Just another in a long line of things for the useful idiot’s to do to destroy a free sovereign nation and it’s sovereign people…all the idiotic things they have cried about riots they have had the fascism they promoted, hasn’t fed one single person, hasn’t healed one sick person, hasn’t stopped the sexual abuse of one poor child….So why do they act a fool, one may ask?
    Simply and provably they are mere indoctrinated useful idiot’s for the globalist’s…plain and simple!

  15. Leave American history the Hell alone, these are the things passed on from one generation to another.

  16. Instead of a pacifier, I’d give them all a one-way ticket to either Caracas or Havana.

  17. Since Columbus actually landed somewhere in south america, why would anyone expect he even saw an American Native American, let along met any of them. More liberal garbage.

    • YEP! What Columbus actually discovered was the ‘new hemisphere’.or ‘new world’ as they called it…remember the world was flat! America was lumped into that description as well as South America…..which CC didn’t see either.

  18. Oh my…wait until they really look at American history and see that some Indian tribes had black slaves…then what???

  19. DaveyJ…… You hit it on the head. People are way too sensitive to certain things. Most all nationalities were are or have been hurt by something or someone. Time to mend.. Blacks will never submit to it.. They have and ax to grind. ALWAYS. I would take what you said one step further. Start with the MURDEROUS hillary.

  20. This sounds like what you would expect in the Balkans — revenge for something that happened decades or centuries ago. Punish the whites! Would there be a USA & all the blessings that it has brought to the entire world without them?

    We’re supposed to be color-blind as a country, & to respect the beliefs & feelings of others. This is truly an exceptional nation, arguably the greatest in history. What is the source of all this senseless hatred?

  21. Lynda Wheeler Dabson

    In my opinion, there is only 1 timeline and that is MANKIND. It was never meant to be about one specific group or class of persons. The fact that people branched off, evolved in different ways unique to their environment and developed, then met back up adds richness to the group. Different ideas, different perspectives, different little threads that become interwoven into a massive timeline. Everyone at some point behaved poorly, or angrily against another. Survival, trial and error, life lessons and finally character building. Nobody had a crystal ball to tell them that 1000’s of years later their fears won’t matter. Decisions were made at the time based on the information they had in front of them.
    NOW we move forward, what did we learn so far? How to be better, how to work through cohabitation, how to refresh the gene pool, how to evolve further. Christopher Columbus is a benchmark in history through the eyes of European descendants, it still made an impact in the native American lives. So did the Roman empire and so did the Socialist/Fascist/Communist experiment in the 1930’s and 1940’s. As with Native American history and everything since the stone age, these are all lessons, stories, and things to consider when making huge decisions like “How much power do you give to your leaders?”
    Look to all historical paths for several examples on what NOT to do. Angry, bitter, hateful people do NOT do what’s best for everyone else…it’s been proven. The “collective” is better cared for when each individual is responsible for their actions and happiness. Self love is the solution for being a better contributor and inner strength makes people more fit for community building.

  22. Obviously LEFTIES are CRAZY, they really want to tear the USA down so they chip away at ICONS. Their are a lot of fools who go for it., BUT THEY WON’T WIN.

  23. Columbus was actually a Jew who was forced to convert to Christianity. He did state “I felt the Lord upon me to make this voyage”. What would have happened if he had not made this voyage to the Americas. We will never know.

  24. Already posted, but as a Native American (25%) and Gaelic/ Native American on the other, I see no relationship to the demise of our great race and a person who showed up in the wrong place to discover (re-discover since the Norsemen were here 1100s) a place that would be erroneously named after the map maker whose maps were notoriously flawed [based on a flat earth] ; Someone needs to study more history and less Leftist Manifesto to agree that the genocide was far more recent and based on greed ( land/gold/diamonds/oil ) land/ more land, not slavery. Observe closely the ‘Trail of Tears’ , then the encroachment on Apache / Souix/ Cheyenne/ .The Spanish ‘enslaved’ the natives from two continents and for the most part forced them to build missions and make offspring. The African tribes sold their competitors to the Portuguese to sell to the world. Now, every politician and Jollywood cork-head wants to be Native American; get a grip, if you ain’t you ain’t, and if you are be proud of it and make your posterity proud of it by being AMERICAN; and no amount of paint, hammers, or tow chins are going to make history change to your “better living through chemistry” dreams.

  25. We MUST PROTECT our heritage and the battles that were fought to make America the greatest nation in the world.

    We MUST HONOR our Native American Indians, their past and struggles to keep their place in this country! They should be revered as original Americans who had their lands, their lives, their lifestyles, and their fortunes stolen from them, never repaid, were ‘settled’ on unvaluable, unproductive land, left to starve, and still managed to survive under the harshest conditions!

    REMEMBER ALL AMERICA”S MISTAKES, like the Indian wars, slavery, and McCarthyism, (which seems to happening ‘in reverse’ now) so that we don’t repeat them ever again. Our statues are daily reminders that this nation, while far from perfect has been the ‘activist’ nation throughout history. And the catalyst for change for the better. They remind us of how far we have come, and make us realize we are progressing still as the Greatest Nation in the world..

    This crisis is about keeping our hard won traditions or sliding into chaos and communism, marxism, stalinism, or whatever brand you call it by. Communism by any name has failed REPEATEDLY. And the graft, corruption, and greed of congress, party leaders seeking only power and vast wealth, and the previous administration’s attempts to destroy our culture, our country, and lead us into destruction is wrong and should no longer be tolerated.

    These ‘protests’ say less about America and so much more about the spoiled, silly people who managed to embroil themselves in a lost cause…….the dumbing down of America! Protesters must realize that while they have a right to object to something their choice of display and their object of disrespect must be chosen carefully.

    Idiocy must stop, traditional values of virtue, and kindness, and manners must come back into place if we are to continue on the best line of progress. Like the WWII poster of ‘Rosie the Riveter’, a strong work ethic must return for each and every one of us to contribute to the best America! America MUST be made great again, people put back to valuing it’s Constitution, it’s forefathers, it’s laws, and it’s self respect.

    Certain people must realize and learn to appreciate their ancestors struggles as slaves and their amazing contributions to America. Yes, the long nightmare of segregation has left us with scares and prejudices toward others. But blame and anger solves no issue that I am aware of.many have moved on past that time and are going ahead in tandem with other races, creeds, and religions.

    But,there remains the issue of people seeking monetary enrichment for their ancestor’s struggles against oppression. This issue, in my opinion, is just another form of greed and will not become a part of history except as the corruption it exposes. Mindless and misguided displays of disrespect will be judged by history as attempts to tear apart the fabric of American heritage in order to gain personal profit.

    Isn’t that the very same sort of insidious greed and corruption that we all are experiencing in congress. Aren’t we so disgusted with the deterioration of our values and principles that we all feel the need for change? There are many who do not like the new administration they obstruct his attempts to solve problems and disrespect his family. The standards of allowing each new administration time to ‘settle in’ seems to have vanished. The new norm is now “Don’t give him a chance”. Harsh vitriolic treatment of his tries to unify us is without precedence in this nation’s history.

    Let us all calm down, take a breath, respect our past history and traditions, and work together to start solving our problems facing us as a nation now.

    • We agree on a lot of things except unless life began in the U.S. instead of the middle east don’t think we can say who were the original Americans. Like you at my age of 77 have seen tremendous changes in this country and most of it bad.

      • nope I did not say life began in America…..Mesopotamia! But you are so right, this world has always been changing and evolving and in the last several hundred years change has taken place at a dizzying rate!

        • To me when someone says native it means their existence started at that point. The spoils of war has always went to the victor thru history. The strongest survive and the weakest don’t. It is true with humans and animals alike. Aside from that the quickest change in America to me was during the 60s with Woodstock, the start of the druggies. Since then we have really went downhill. Give me back the 40s/50s when families stayed together with a father and mother as a family structure. It is getting scarce to find a father in the family anymore.

          • YES! I believe America just thought drugs were ‘a passing phase’ of the young. Instead we began losing portions of each generation to drugs. Now they are epidemic, but the liberals ruled that being on drugs was a condition, and began allowing them low income help…and going easy on their crimes, neither of which should have been tolerated. Then prisons…as bad as they were, were no longer involved in work programs! All this has to change. No longer tolerant of drugs, fewer ‘revolving door policies for criminals, changing prisons back to work programs, and more will have to be done to re-right America!

          • Think we have went too far to the liberal left and it will now be impossible to come back. There just aren’t enough of people like us left to make the change.

          • I hope you are wrong!

          • Hope so also but when you look at the facts it doesn’t look good. College student, the leaders of tomorrow heavily voted for Sanders, an admitted communist. A survey as college students if they would give up their freedom of speech to get their college education free and 50% said yes. There are many other reasons but as you can see just those two doesn’t show much promise.

          • My! These examples you gave show me that our youth have no clue as to “why” we have struggled to keep our basic rights!
            Even a casual study of history would have shown the repression that can result from losing our God-given freedoms as humans.

            I pray our youth will mature enough to “smell the roses”!

          • Doubt they will as it was a given the left/communist took over the colleges but today it has even went into the grade schools. Never thought it would or could go that far as at that level you have parent oversight but it has. Either the parents agree with this or they just aren’t involved enough to care.

  26. As for Shillary, “What Happened”, Hillary happened. Suffice it to say. And if she did it for Money or Fame, the book isn’t selling, she has enough illegal gains, and she is Infamous-that historically lasts longer. How many people below the age of 18 remember Virgil “Gus” Grissom ? How about Hitler or Manson ? Those that say they know Hitler probably don’t know much about him either. Wonder if any read Mein Kamph ? Probably not, that’s why anyone who has read the Koran who be foolish to entertain becoming a Muslim. Or had Hitler read the memoirs of Napoleon or listened to his generals, he most likely would not have embarked on his folly into Russia.

  27. “native americans” do you mean them fuckin redskins that scalped Custer?

  28. Rewriting history is certainly a part of communism and the progressive Democrat party however the BS of Columbus is no more than propaganda since others were here long before he sailed into the Caribbean. One has to realize the Federal Government has attempted to demonize and exterminate the Native Americans while pontificating those of African origin.

  29. The way things are going with these NIGGERS our children will never learn American History.

  30. I don’t hold that against him, but it makes it look like the NIGGERS got one up on us.

  31. I’m not Native American but I agree the Columbus statue should come down and Columbus Day should not be a holiday. Columbus & his crew of thugs & degenerates butchered our Native Americans. This should NOT be celebrated, omg. I admire our Native Americans, they knew how to treat the land and the animals. They took only what they needed. Columbus’ crew were evil, vile & disgusting filthy subhumans. Most don’t know that when Columbus was getting set to sail, the Queen at that time wouldn’t allow him to take good decent men for his crew. Columbus took thugs, felons, prisoners, degenerates, etc. etc. We should do away with anything celebrating Columbus & take down the statue.

  32. Columbus vilified himself and denigrated himself by his murderous actions! It is true that he never set foot on the land that is now the U.S., but that does not excuse in any way the murderous actions he perpetrated elsewhere in the hemisphere.

  33. These protesters are focused upon negating everything that makes an important statement about America, a very vital visual for the American citizen, a meaningful message to our conscious minds & souls. They are revealing to all their intent to destroy the USA, worse than cry-babies. They are Muslim anti-Christs, liberals, democrats, ACLU’s, & globalist Communists such as Soros.

  34. Oct 10, 2017 – THE STUPIDITY Of Condemning Columbus & Confederates
    See: http://www.americanresistanceparty.org

  35. If we had government officials were dropped and had a backbone this wouldn’t be going on but there would be a lot of ass is in jail for destruction of public property. This is not about history this is about communism destroying the culture as this is one of the goals of communism so they can install the culture they want

  36. Columbus rode the ocean’s waves
    And landed on Antilles’ shore.
    He killed the natives or made them slaves,
    His actions all good men deplore.

  37. Most Native Americans wish the left would just shut the hell up because unlike most liberals they actually work for a living and they respect the American flag also.

  38. PEACE IN…
    The following is from a Resolution by the Honorable Southern Baptist Convention at its August 2017 Conference.
    “It claimed that the origin of white supremacy in Christian communities is a once-popular theory known as the “curse of Ham,” which taught that “God through Noah ordained descendants of Africa to be subservient to Anglos” and was used as justification for slavery and segregation. The resolution called on the denomination to denounce nationalism and “reject the retrograde ideologies, xenophobic biases, and racial bigotries of the so-called ‘alt-right’ that seek to subvert our government, destabilize society, and infect our political system.”
    Columbus was a victim of a blasphemous lie told and propagated by Babylonian Talmud mindset of Rabbis Jewry. He must be forgiven as an unaware victim just as Confederates were.
    This rebellious Talmud Jewry mindset has always been the cause of problem as disbelievers in The G-D and enemy of humanity. Jesus said they were, like their father, liars and murderers from the beginning. Jesus even said they operated from the Synagogue of Satan. Jesus also said – “THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.”
    IT MUST BE KNOWN THAT Talmud TEACHES THAT “JESUS IS IN HELL BOILING IN HOT EXCREMENT AND THAT HIS DEAR MOTHER MARY WAS A WHORE.”
    REDEMPTION IS AVAILABLE TO US ALL, FOR COLUMBUS, THE CONFEDERATES, FOR THE INNOCENT, EVEN POST MORTEM.
    PEACE IN…PEACE OUT…

  39. OK this is just as Silly as the “PROTESTERS who have no FREAKING Idea again about what the Soros/O zero/Shapr PIMP ton leadership has told them WHY to Protest COLUMBUS… Must be that nobody told them about a 100% BLACK TROOP Massacring a Whole bunch of NATIVES in the PRAIRIE…… The the Island Natives , yes got a European disease from Columbus sailors, But paid back by infecting same with a Heck of a SYPHILIS Comminucable desease upon their Return home…… BUT did anyone tell these ABSOLUTE STUPID IDIOTS that Columbus in his day was equal to ARMSTRONG landing on the moon???? ..HE was an EXPLORER YOU MORONS>>>>Now about you going to your NATIVE LAND and SET up DEMONSRATION camps against the KINGS that SOLD your Ancestors in Slavery to the BRITS??????……..

  40. Burn The News of HIllary, Obama, Holder, Rice, Lynch, Comey and All other Traitors in the Town Square of D.C. and if they Do Not Get the Criminals Out of the News Lime then Close all the News Companies and start all over again and Keep the News The Truth Only! NOW..We the Patriots want the the Names in this Comment Arrested, Tried, Convicted and Thrown in Prison for their Traitorship to America!

  41. NOW Native Americans should be put to work…Purchase their own Homes and Food except the low income just like other Americans and Do Away with Reservations (And Reservartions Do Exist)! Give the Native Americans the Rights of Their Lives and Do Away With Being the Slaves Held Captive to Take Care of Forever…How Degrading!

  42. Maybe they are upset because Columbus was not a Dumb-o-Crat!

  43. Those that disrespect our Flag, our National Anthem are against everything American PERIOD!!!

    • And those who make a mockery of the Constitution, starting with Trump, should be sent to those George W. Bush detention centers, for re-education.

  44. Liberals are brain dead. Columbus never set foot in North America. He first landed in the Bahamas and then later Venezuela and Central America. Leif Ericson was first to discover continental North America. Although it can be argued that the Native Americans were the true discovers of North America.

  45. Why is it that the American Taxpayer that has made the best of their life and believe me they are not all rich is expected to take care of everybody that either has worked very hard at not working or was just born with the idea that everybody owes them something and the more we dish out the more people throw it back in our face that we are not doing enough just a question Don’t mind carting the load for the ones that can’t help them selves but we could really use some help here

  46. the native Americans discovered Columbus so we should celebrate them instead

  47. It;s just one more Liberal History correction to make America Small again.. and celebrating it yesterday it’s original day is easy.. My 95 yr old Uncles Birth date.

  48. How about just eliminating all Federal Holidays? All they are is another day for some people to do nothing while others, in “essential services”, have to work anyway. The word “holiday” is the short form of “holy day” so all of the anti-religious people should be suing the Feds for promoting religious observances, whether they are to worship Columbus or Washington & Lincoln or Martin Luther King or all of the Native Americans.

  49. Ah, yes. Cristoforo Colombo. Ended his career, by being sent home in chains for skimming off the top, and got caught by his employers.

  50. These dumb shits don’t know that Colombus never set foot in North America. Columbus sailed to the Bahamas and then to Venezuala and Central America but he never sailed to North America. Leif Erickson was the first man to sail to North America in the 1100’s.

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