Strong Immigration Policy Would Save America Billions

Since Donald Trump unveiled his multi-step proposal on illegal immigration, establishment Republicans like Jeb Bush have hammered the package as too expensive and out of sync with conservative ideals. Various price tags have been attached to Trump’s proposals, some of them as high as $300 billion. That’s a tough pill to swallow for anyone who wants to see the federal government shrink, but the numbers tell a different story altogether.

“A modest increase in enforcement (such as E-verify or visa tracking) would cause significant attrition in the illegal population, sending millions of illegals home on their own at no cost to the U.S. taxpayer,” says Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies.

Indeed, Vaughan is not alone in telling a very different economic story than we’ve heard from the mainstream media. Even Fox News has been caught trumpeting this myth about how expensive Trump’s immigration plan would be. None of them seem to take into account how much our current lackadaisical approach to illegal immigration is costing the country. According to the Federation for American Immigration Reform, illegal immigrants are costing U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion every year.

“Unlawful immigrants, on average, are always tax consumers, they never once generate a ‘fiscal surplus’ that can be used to pay for government benefits elsewhere in society,” said Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation.

Why would Republicans support a loose immigration policy that allows illegals a path to citizenship? Because they are tied to corporate interests who exploit Hispanic workers for their own profits, of course. Establishment Republicans and Democrats are fighting for the same thing for different reasons. And none of those reasons have anything to do with what’s best for American citizens.

Even if Trump’s plan cost as much as the most extreme evaluations predict, there are reasons to support it nonetheless. We’ve let the problem fester for decades; it’s no surprise that it’s going to be expensive to solve it. But sometimes you have to bite the bullet. We are losing our culture, our economy, and our security so big businesses can get cheap labor. Oh, sorry, because jumping the fence is an “act of love.” We are allowing the president of the United States to thwart congressional law so Democrats can win over the Hispanic vote. Oh, sorry, because dreamers must dream…or something.

It’s time to put our foot down as a country. If we fail to act now, America will not be the same place in another twenty years. Our long, slow decline will be crystallized, turning us into a third-world joke where the law is little more than a suggestion. If it’s going to cost $300 billion to avoid that fate, then we’d better start finding some liberal nonsense to defund. Shouldn’t be too hard.

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  1. The illegal immigration issue could have been solved by politicians way back in the Reagan days.

    Why wasn’t it? I believe these scum politicians in control (socialists) see this issue as a divisive issue that will divide the population.

    United we stand, divided we fall…… Don’t let them divide.

    • Reagan tried by believing the lying democrats would finish building the wall. After he sighed the bill to legalize the illegals the democrats refuse to allocate the money to do so. They really had no intention of building it anyway. I fault Reagan for having the belief that the lying democrats would abide by their promises.

      • I would fault the Demotards instead. If you make a deal and both parties agree then the party that failed their part of the bargain is at fault.

        • I fault Reagan for even believing the democrats would keep their promise or first doing his part without any action for providing money to build the wall on the democrats side.

      • He also shouldn’t have legalized the illegals back then either.

        • I can agree with you but the problem was growing and the democrats convinced Reagan that by legalizing those here they would build the fence and the problem would be solved for the future.

          • So when the GOP took full control of Congress for a full decade starting in 95,
            why did they build the wall then?

            Why do you guys carry water for the GOP?

            When will conservatives face facts, take a little personal responsibility, for voting for the Aholes that do nothing, while telling you silly people they’ve done plenty?

          • First of all I am nether republican nor democrat but am conservative. It makes no difference if the GOP does control the congress just like today where they control both houses but all the president has to do is veto any bill they produce. So don’t make it sound like if they control the congress they can do anything they want to, you know that isn’t true.

          • Yet Glenn seems to forget that six of those years George W. Bush was president.

            Why do conservatives have such bad memories.

            And when they have so many lame excuses for the people they elect Congress?
            And it makes you wonder if they have a brain

          • Yes but not republican house control, tell the complete story would you

          • By now, Glenn should be aware that is knowledge is a little “off” shall we say.

            You didn’t think to look that up before you made a fool of yourself again?

            The GOP had control of the house from 95 until January 2007.

            they had the Senate for all of those years as well except 01- 03.

            And let’s not forget that the Senate passed the bipartisan immigration bill last summer that the house WOULD NOT VOTE ON.

          • Again you can control both houses just like they do today but the president has the final vote and that is the one that counts the most.

          • “The GOP had control of the house from 95 until January 2007.”

            RINOs don’t count as conservatives.

        • He DIDN’T “legalize” the illegals.

      • The First People are not Democrats.

        Did you ever personally visit the Berlin Wall back in the era of “Red Scare”?

        • The first people are not democrats, what is that suppose to mean? What purpose would there be in visiting the wall?

          • Exactly what is says. Maybe you should learn exactly who America’s first people are/were?

            Purpose of having visited the Berlin Wall — understanding why you do not want one built at America’s borders.

          • The Berlin wall was built to keep people in, not to keep people out.

            Learn some history!.

          • Really?

            Maybe you should take another look at that history?

            The Wall served a dual purpose.

            I lived the history. Obviously, your book learning was deficient.

          • They are still debating today who the first people were so as of yet no one really knows. As far as the wall I am against it as it serves no purpose. People can still go over it or under it besides the fact we have thousands of miles of shore line they can come in on. My fix is do away with anchor babies, enforce our laws against corporations that hire illegals and send the anchor mother back across the border. Now she has two choices either go alone or take her kids with her. It would tell us real quick is she loved the kids or just had them so she could get on the government dole. I have no doubt that the government dole is the real reason because if she really had to support those kids there is no way she could afford them.

          • The 14th Amendment says: “All persons
            born or naturalized in the United States
            and SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States
            and of the states wherein they reside.”

            The 14th Amendment was passed to grant
            citizenship status to freed slaves.

            It did not grant citizenship status to native
            Americans who were born in the U.S.,
            because they were not SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, since they were
            subject to the jurisdiction of tribes to which they belonged. Native Americans
            were later allowed to apply for citizenship status if the chose to do so.

            Also, it did not grant citizenship status to
            children born in the U.S.
            of foreign diplomats, since these children would be subject to the jurisdiction
            of the home country of their parents.

            Nor does it grant citizenship to children of
            illegal aliens who are born in the U.S., since these children will be
            subject to the jurisdiction of the home country of their parents.

            Therefore, anchor babies are not citizens of
            the U.S.,
            according to the U.S. Constitution.

    • We are loosing our culture, morals, living conditions and more. They are taking our lives, as we ‘ve known them, away from us. I feel sometimes like I’m the Alien in my own country. There is No Assimilation going on and the government doesn’t seem to care. Can it be that they, in fact, are giving the land that was once Mexico’s and is currently known as part of America, back to them and all the tightening up on Americans is to drive them out, so the takeover can begin? This is, if you’ve ever experienced this in your areas, the way they change the ethnicity in neighborhoods. They fill the neighborhoods with the new culture they want to take residence in that area, until the other culture becomes the minority and is pushed out. Same MOA here, only on a National level. Obama wants America to become a Nation of Color and he doesn’t see white as a color. Racism to the Max! Obama’s the Biggest Racist of them all!

      • You are 200% correct. We must understand how they are hurting us so that we can combat them.

        This is being done by design by corrupt politicians that do not have America’s best interests in mind, they have control of America in mind..

        Communist of old designed a set of agenda items that when implemented would break down America’s institutions, break down our Family units, and weaken America’s resolve.

        The list is outlined in the book, “The Naked Communist.”

        13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
        15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
        16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
        17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
        20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
        21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
        22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
        24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
        25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
        26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
        27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
        28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
        29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
        30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
        31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
        32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

        The entire list is available at:

        http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

        • The First People are not Communists.

          It is obvious, however, that you have been heavily brainwashed.

          • 0bama is a Communist/Socialist…. He is following the agenda in the book “The Naked Communist.” You have no argument for those facts, thus you deflect.

            0bama uses the Mexicans to create chaos, and the Socialists in charge will use their numbers to create votes…

            I’ll bet you won’t be surprised when 10 million Rodriquez’s vote in the next election without even going to the polls or registering to vote, because you will be the one creating and stuffing the ballots with their votes.

          • No, but Bernie Sanders is.

            Maybe, you should actually look at the facts for a change.

            Oh, and it was Thomas Jefferson’s socialism that gave America free public education.

          • Now your trying to tell us that 0bama is not a closet socialists???

            We know Bernie is a Socialist because he is honest enough to say so…

          • “free public education.”

            Typical liberal lie. “free public education” costs a fortune and produces brainwashed students who vote Democrat.

          • It is free to the student.
            Illiterate, ignorant people are much easier to brainwash.

          • It is NOT free to the student . The student will be saddled with a national debt of 18 trillion dollars, a big part of which is due to “free” education.

            You are naive indeed if think anything is free. Someone had to work to pay for it.

          • You really need to learn how your country works.

            State and local schools are paid for by property taxes. Even renters pay property tax, it is included in the cost of the rental.

            You are very foolish if you think parents and students pay tuition.

            The biggest chunk of that national debt is our fine military and two very unnecessary wars.

          • And who do think will be paying those property taxes and rents but students when and if they are able to find a job in this miserable Obama economy?

            “You are very foolish if you think parents and students pay tuition.”

            And you are very stupid if you think the tooth fairy will be paying for tuition.

          • My taxes pay to educate the next generation of Americans.

            I am proud to support my country in that manner.

            Apparently, you would rather the system Thomas Jefferson worked to do away with — education only for the rich.

          • “My taxes pay to educate the next generation of Americans.”

            Can my grandson contact you when his college loan is due?

            “education only for the rich”

            Current college costs are so high that only the rich can afford them, thanks to the demands of leftist college professors who demand higher and higher salaries for indoctrinating students about the virtues of socialism and the evils of capitalism.

          • College is not the topic of this discussion.

            Basic education, i.e., literacy for the American voter was Jefferson’s goal.

          • Hitler is Obama’s mentor. He has followed many of Hitler’s means of governance. It is obvious that he has read his biography.

          • “He has followed many of Hitler’s means of governance”

            Oh really?

            How about you name two?

          • “I’ll bet you won’t be surprised when 10 million Rodriquez’s vote in the
            next election without even going to the polls or registering to vote,
            because you will be the one creating and stuffing the ballots with their
            votes.”

            We won’t be surprised when your neighbors turn you IN for mental evaluation based on Trumps new “gun” proposal.

      • The First People are taking back the land which was stolen from them at gun point.

        I find it very ironic.

        • The land was not stolen…. We won a war with Mexico who started the war, technically, we conquered and owned the entire country.

          We gave them back the entire Country and they accepted Texas’s independence, The US paid for the rest of the land as well as relieving Mexico’s past debts…

          It was a great deal for Mexico…. Seeing how ANY other conqueror would not have been as magnanimous.

          America is a great and generous Nation…. Why do you lie about its past?

          • Your lengthy diatribe only covers a very small portion of America.
            Not only was the land stolen, America also practiced genocide.
            Every treaty ever written by the U.S. has been violated. The last US – Mexico border treaty went into effect in 1970.
            Oh, and by the way, the US – Mexico border has moved back and forth repeatedly

          • Not stolen, and the unintentional AND NATURAL spreading of diseases does not fit as genocide.

            Check your history… Socialists have altered it for you. The intent of these socialists is to get Americans to reject their history, reject Capitalism, and weaken Americas institutions.

            This has been a coordinated effort by socialists and communists since the 1930s. Socialists like Howard Zinn, rewrote history with one intent to promote socialism. I see you prefer his lies about our history.

          • I am quite familiar with American history.

            They still taught history when I attended school.

            Save your insults for someone who respects your tainted version of history.

            That America’s First People suffered horribly is indisputable

          • Yes they did suffer. So did the pilgrims, so did a lot of people….

            Still no reason to promote socialism over Capitalism.

          • “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
            — Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

          • You are a wealth of good stuff.
            I am copying them for future reference.
            Thanks.

            And Stop calling me a con

          • “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
            — Thomas Jefferson.

          • The US Government is the largest business in America.
            MAHB001
            The collusion of Big Business and Big Government, often called crony Capitalism is nothing more than Socialism at work. It is not Capitalism…
            MAHB001

          • It is “Crapitalism.”

          • I agree it is crap, but it is closer to socialism than it is to capitalism.

            Pure Capitalists do not give up their money for nothing. So there must be some kind of payoff for the big businesses to give their money to the politicians/government…. I believe it is the politicians that extort money from business, and business only coughs up the money to better themselves or their position.

            This collusion is more indicative of socialism than capitalism….. Both politicians and business are corrupt and dealing with each other for more control… Control of the people.

            Socialism is control of the people, it is slavery.

            I don’t think democrats understand that. They incorrectly blame capitalism on the collusion of Government and business, and run towards bigger Government which will only get more of the collusion.

          • “I believe it is the politicians that extort money from business, and
            business only coughs up the money to better themselves or their
            position.”

            Oh well that confirms it.

            You are a freaking moron

          • An insult is the typical liberal response when they can not refute an argument.

            It is true, Big Government and Politicians extort from us all, including businesses. Those businesses only give the money up because politicians are extorting it from them..

            That is socialism, at its finest.

          • Okay soon all you need to do is post some links to prove this craziness.

            Where does a “supposed” intelligent person get information like this and decided it’s truthful.

            And why won’t you show it to me?

            Is the conservative aware that extortion is illegal in United States?

          • Troll,

            So now you need links, to recognize common sense?

            You are hopeless…

          • “It is true, Big Government and Politicians extort from us all, including businesses”

            Just because you say the same thing over and over doesn’t make it true ignorant human.

          • I’ll tell you what would make that statement false, an argument with facts convincing enough to sway others opinions.

            If you could refute that statement you would… You have no counter argument, because the statement is true…

            But you can’t so you do what all liberals do when they got nothing…. Insult…

          • Tell us not so bright conservative, the name of a country running on pure capitalism?

          • Give it up socialist…

            You know the Constitution supports individual freedom and liberty. Which is also what Capitalism supports…

            Individual freedom and liberty do not exist in socialism… Socialism is a form of slavery…

          • The real answer ill-informed human,
            is that capitalism is pure form does not exist anywhere on the planet.

            Even though you fools like to attend that’s what’s going on in America

          • I beg to differ… Capitalism in its pure form happens every day in America, at swap meets, and even when you purchase at your local McDonalds.

            Your little deflections and insults are not working…

            “The US Government is the largest business in America.”

            Why don’t you hate the US Government as much as you hate Big Business?

          • It also happens at garage sales that occur all over the U.S.

          • SO NO, the con CAN’T name a country that runs on pure Capitalism.

            seems conservatism is a form of STUPIDITY.

          • Radish, It is a fools question.

            What Country runs on pure Socialism?
            What Country is greater than America?

          • “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow
            that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the
            community are equally entitled to the protections of civil
            government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of
            justice and liberality.” — George Washington

          • Mankind is not becoming more liberal by choice.

            It is trickery, lies and deceit that advances your liberal causes…

            You are evil, radish.

          • the FF think you are a moron as well.

            “If the American people ever allow
            private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation
            and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up
            around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their
            property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent
            their fathers conquered.”
            — Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

          • “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

        • Wrong again. The First People were native Americans.

          Learn some history!

          • Yes, the First People are Native Americans.

            Do you really think the First People only populated North America?

      • I do not have a problem with my country becoming like those in South America I have lived for the past year in South america and would love to see the USA become like Peru, Chile, or Brazil.

      • If you want to see how bad it really is, read “Plunder and Deceit” by Mark Levin.

        • I listen to Mark Levin nightly, pineapple. I’ve heard it all, yet nothing gets done. Even the activists haven’t seemed to be able to deal with this. The people have been shut out of the workings of our government. They don’t care what we think anymore! It will take a revolt at this point to have any effect on this issue at all

          • “I listen to Mark Levin nightly”

            Oh well now we know why your the least informed human in America.

            You know that Mark Levine is an “entertainer”, right Sandy?

            Not a journalist, not a news man.

            “An entertainer.”
            Someone who says shit to get people to listen to their shit tomorrow.
            ,
            And gets paid big bucks to do so.

    • President Reagan took then Speaker of the House “Tip” O’Neal at his word, that if Reagan granted amnesty to the estimated 6 million illegals, O’Neal would ensure funding would be provided to effectively and efficiently close the border to illegal entry. O’Neal duped Reagan. He broke his word.

      • False.

        It is physically impossible to close the US.

        The US has 88,633 miles of tidal shoreline.

        The South border is 1,954 miles

        The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.

        • We now have e-verify, very effective identification program capable of weeding out illegals taking jobs from Americans; we now have laws with teeth to hold employers responsible for hiring illegals; we’ve always had law enforcement means, due process and judiciary redress to, if not close the border to illegal entry, severely discourage illegal entry.

          However, under that Empty Suit currently occupying the Oval Office, Dense Dubya’s and Slick Willie’s previous administrations, our borders have become sieves; our law enforcement personnel nothing more than baby sitter/care-takers facing repercussions, including penalty of dismissal, if they attempt to enforce our immigration laws.

          Moreover, lets not forget Empty Suit our “President” joined a foreign country, Mexico, in a law suit against Arizona for enforcing its anti-illegal immigration laws which were carbon-copies of exiting federal anti-illegal immigration laws.

          He should be impeached for treason. In case you’ve forgotten, he took an oath to defend the United States against FOREIGN and DOMESTIC adversaries.

          • Don’t waste your time with this one he, she or it only tries to stir up emotions to piss people off. I totally ignore her. If nobody will respond to her she will most likely go back under her rock. I would not be surprised if she was hired by the DNC to do this because of the total stupidity that she spouts. Let her get her thrill by being insulting but I would recommend ignoring her. You will only be wasting your time.

          • Best solution Indeed : Ignore this Aka Lady uninformed , confused , brainwashed leftist liberal , coming here to Pollute .

          • The only time I respond to a liberal is if they seem to really carry on a conversation because they don’t understand how conservatives think and they want clarity. I don’t waste my time with trouble makers.

          • It is a Waste of time talking or responding to a liberal ; their brain is under the sole of their shoes . Ignoring them it is the best solution .
            This one , she can`t think nor reason .

          • Actually they are looking at the world through a glass naval.

          • Thanks…I appreciate and will take your advice.

          • I figured you time was more important than wasting it on the brain dead..

          • Child, you need to learn the difference between state and federal jurisdiction.

            Immigration is federal jurisdiction.

            The original Arizona law violated the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

          • Speaking to you, is like speaking to a child. The operative word is “original” which was amended, and thus gave Arizona law enforcement joint jurisdiction under federal law and protocol.

            Moreover, the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution you sarcastically reference does not justify your hero, that Empty Suit currently occupying the Oval Office, to join a foreign country suing Arizona. Something no other president has ever done.

            Something that should have been handled through diplomatic channels between the respective consulars or embassies.

            Enough of your dense, juvenile, name-calling nonsense; surpassed only by your artificial, pseudo-intellectualism, craven disregard and distortions.

            We are done.

          • Arizona courts cannot enforce federal laws.

            You are a bit confused. The partnership involves intelligence gathering. They also work with INTERPOL.

            Arizona peace officers have not been sworn in as federal law enforcement officers.

          • Obama himself failed to pass e-verity.

        • Uninformed

          AKLady : U.S. Soldiers at the DMZ ( Korea ) protecting the border .
          U.S. Soldiers in Turkey protecting the border .
          U.S. Border , NONE .

          • Yes, you are very uninformed.

            Suggest you read the Posse Comitatus Act.

          • You are an ignorant conservative.

            First off there are no US troops on any border in Turkey.
            Love to see a link proving that crap.

            In the DMZ in Korea, is 160 miles long.
            You really want to compare that to the US Mexican border?

            So apparently IQ is not necessary to be a conservative?
            The US border has almost 600 miles of fence, ignorant con

          • Thanks for your Insult :

            Obama Agrees to Secure the Border… Except That it’s Turkey’s …

            Jul 23, 2015 … The problem: He wants to secure Turkey’s border instead of ours. U.S. President
            Barack …. It’s just he doesn’t want American borders protected.

            http://townhall.com/tipsheet/aaronbandler/2015/07/23/obama-agrees-to-secure-the-border-except-that-its-turkeys-border-n2029324 – 249k – Cached – Similar Pages

          • The dimness of the right wing conservative is truly shocking.

            First of all ill-informed human, the talks between Obama and Turkey are about securing the border to stop fighters from going TO ISIL, not keeping people from entering Turkey.

            Secondly ignorant one, there are no troops on the ground, or plans for troops on the ground,

            just an agreement to DO MORE to stop the flow TO SYRIA.

            My insults Are therefore warranted since you have proven to be a seriously ignorant human WHO LIES ON THE INTERNET

          • You got to be a kiss ass to Illegals and company .
            You are a Waste of time : your brain is under the Left Sole of your shoe .
            I will IGNORE you ; don`t waist your time replying .

          • The ill-informed conservative gets all bent out of shape because he gets smacked down on the Internet for being stupid.

            Smacked down for telling LIES.

            Why lie on the Internet?
            You think your stupid transfers into the general public if you say the enough times?

          • Reality Check

            My Turn : I Never compared DMZ and Mexico Border ; YOU Invented that . I said : we have Soldiers protecting the DMZ . I said : Soldiers in Turkey ; find the answer BELOW.
            U.S. Border None ; and , Why not U.S.Soldiers protecting our Border.?????????
            Isn`t America your home , your land , your country .?????????

            Reality Check
            You are Uninformed , confused , brainwashed leftist liberal jumping to conclusion without anything to offer , but INSULTS ; Now your INSUTS are coming back at you . There are something like 30 Million Illegal Criminal Aliens here in our Land ( Yours Too ) .
            WE Taxpayers are supporting all the Illegal Criminals , your Taxes Too ; at a cost of $ 230 Billion a Year. Sanctuary Cities all over the U.S. , allows Criminal Illegals Murderers , Rapists , Pedophiles , etc. etc. running loose . I have more , but I am talking to a Liberal and wasting time .
            To be Polite and have Respect for Others does not exist for you .
            Why Not . You are in an Open Forum .

          • Pretty funny that the con thinks he has “more”.

            So far all you have is flapping gums.

            How many illegals are in a country no one knows, ESPECIALLY YOU

            How much they cost, Forbes magazine estimates at 50 billion.
            Forbes Would Be a Right Wing economics magazine.

            That’s a drop in the bucket considering conservatives will blow 24 billion and shut down the government, while trying to blackmail the American government.

            Perhaps the conservative could post some links and prove he’s not a complete idiot

      • Of course he did, he was a democrat and integrity is not in and of the dictionaries that they own. Democrat and integrity used together is an oxymoron.

      • True, but Reagan did nothing about it, and neither did his successor, George H.W. Bush, the great globalist president who started this nation down the slippery slope it can’t recover from.

    • It’s hard for the population not to be divided when our government has deliberately brought in tens of millions of immigrants whose culture is so foreign to ours, and whose languages are so foreign, and whose religions are so anathema to the 70% Christians here in the U.S., it is hopeless to unite them because there is no commonality whatever. Furthermore, immigrants tend to reproduce at much higher rates, placing a terrible strain on taxpayers in every state, and nearly bankrupting this country. It must stop!

  2. I am behind Trump….. Close the border.

    • .
      NOW.
      .

        • Exactly how?

          The US has 88,633 miles of tidal shoreline.

          The South border is 1,954 miles

          The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.

          • No need to close the border, just cut off the freebies for illegals, and they will self deport.

          • There are no “freebies” for illegals. Read the eligibility requirements for all the benefits you say they claim.

          • tell THAT to anyone that lives next door to them

          • Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies.

            Yes, some Americans are too lazy to look up the law.

            However, not everyone is that lazy or that ignorant.

          • So, when they mow my yard, the governments giving them a check a well?

          • Yep starting with WIC when they get pregnant &* then welfare after that for the “children” & they lie to get it

          • Angry,
            I tend to deal with facts, can you site a source for the metrics that you quoting?

          • Bob666 ; don`t expect someone else do it for you . Do that Research yourself ; Simple and Easy ; Search : the price of illegal immigration .
            Problem Solved .
            P.S. Your Taxes are paying for Illegals too .

          • Already been there and done it raffael,

            Another side of the story.

            Figure 1.4 U.S. Employment Eligibility.

            Migrant Types

            The definition of “migrant” varies among the multitude of federal government agencies and programs that provide services to migrant and seasonal farm workers. In the NAWS, migrants are defined as persons who travel at least 75 miles during a 12-month period to obtain a farm job.[5] Overall, migrants comprised 42 percent of crop workers in 2001-2002, an 11 percent decrease from 1993-1994 when they were 47 percent.

            The migrant labor force demonstrates various migration patterns. Some migrants do no U.S. farm work at their home base, but travel 75 miles or more to do farm work in a single U.S. location and work only within a 75-mile radius of that location. In the NAWS, these workers are referred to as shuttle migrants. Workers who travel to multiple U.S. farm locations for work are called follow-the-crop migrants. Follow-the-crop migrants might or might not do U.S. farm work at their home base. These two migration patterns can be further divided between international and domestic migrants, depending on whether they crossed international borders in the 12-months prior to their NAWS interview.

            International Migrants

            Among international migrants, foreign-born newcomers are an important group to consider: in 2001-2002 they made up 16 percent of all hired crop workers, 22 percent of the foreign-born, 38 percent of the migrants, and 72 percent of all workers who were in their first year of U.S. farm employment. At the time of the interview, these workers have often not demonstrated a migration pattern within the United States, therefore they are not classified in this report as shuttle or follow-the-crop migrants. However, they are referred to as migrants in the NAWS by virtue of their having traveled at least 75 miles in their journey to the United States. As discussed in the previous section, the share of foreign-born newcomers, among all hired crop workers, increased by 60 percent between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Over the same periods, the share of foreign-born newcomers among migrants increased by 69 percent (table 1.1).

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47adfe688213b759fde08a509b3806fab28ca75ddd6494085764efb46e2ad3c7.gif

            Other international migrants include shuttle and follow-the-crop (FTC) migrants. The share of international shuttle migrants was stable over the ten-year period: they were 13 percent of all workers and 29 percent of the migrants in 1993-1994, and 13 percent of all workers and 30 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of workers who were international follow-the-cropFigure 1.4 U.S. Employment Eligibility.

            Migrant Types

            The definition of “migrant” varies among the multitude of federal government agencies and programs that provide services to migrant and seasonal farm workers. In the NAWS, migrants are defined as persons who travel at least 75 miles during a 12-month period to obtain a farm job.[5] Overall, migrants comprised 42 percent of crop workers in 2001-2002, an 11 percent decrease from 1993-1994 when they were 47 percent.

            The migrant labor force demonstrates various migration patterns. Some migrants do no U.S. farm work at their home base, but travel 75 miles or more to do farm work in a single U.S. location and work only within a 75-mile radius of that location. In the NAWS, these workers are referred to as shuttle migrants. Workers who travel to multiple U.S. farm locations for work are called follow-the-crop migrants. Follow-the-crop migrants might or might not do U.S. farm work at their home base. These two migration patterns can be further divided between international and domestic migrants, depending on whether they crossed international borders in the 12-months prior to their NAWS interview.

            International Migrants

            Among international migrants, foreign-born newcomers are an important group to consider: in 2001-2002 they made up 16 percent of all hired crop workers, 22 percent of the foreign-born, 38 percent of the migrants, and 72 percent of all workers who were in their first year of U.S. farm employment. At the time of the interview, these workers have often not demonstrated a migration pattern within the United States, therefore they are not classified in this report as shuttle or follow-the-crop migrants. However, they are referred to as migrants in the NAWS by virtue of their having traveled at least 75 miles in their journey to the United States. As discussed in the previous section, the share of foreign-born newcomers, among all hired crop workers, increased by 60 percent between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Over the same periods, the share of foreign-born newcomers among migrants increased by 69 percent (table 1.1).

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ba45e54476fd3d3f0aebe77de4a7e27e95d89ca34daca3a1e4bca7168392a16.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3bef8a38ca8c3085a0c94b4d6bf91483507b0e109ba7a3124373f311a24186d2.jpg

            Other international migrants include shuttle and follow-the-crop (FTC) migrants. The share of international shuttle migrants was stable over the ten-year period: they were 13 percent of all workers and 29 percent of the migrants in 1993-1994, and 13 percent of all workers and 30 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of workers who were international follow-the-crop migrants, on the other hand, decreased substantially: they went from being five percent of all workers and ten percent of migrants in 1993-1994, to just two and five percent, respectively, in 2001-2002.

            Domestic Migrants

            Domestic migrants also include shuttle and follow-the-crop migrants. Unlike international migrants, domestic migrants had not left the United States in the 12 months preceding their interview. Like international migrants, the overall and relative shares of domestic migrants changed between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Domestic shuttle migrants comprised nine percent of all crop workers and 18 percent of migrants in the earlier period; their share decreased to six percent of all workers and 13 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of domestic follow-the-crop migrants also decreased between the two periods. They comprised nine percent of all workers and 20 percent of migrants in 1993-1994, but were six percent of all and 13 percent of migrants in 2001-2002.Table 1.1 Change in Migrant Types: 1993-1994 and 2001-2002 Compared 1993-19942001-2002Change in Percent ofPercent ofPercent ofMigrant TypeAllMigrantsAllMigrantsMigrantsTotal100%100%100%100%-Foreign-born newcomer10%23%16%38%+ 69%International shuttle13%29%13%30%+ 3%International FTC5%10%2%5%- 50%Domestic shuttle9%18%6%13%- 28%Domestic FTC9%20%6%14%- 30%Non Migrant53%-58%–

            migrants, on the other hand, decreased substantially: they went from being five percent of all workers and ten percent of migrants in 1993-1994, to just two and five percent, respectively, in 2001-2002.

            Domestic Migrants

            Domestic migrants also include shuttle and follow-the-crop migrants. Unlike international migrants, domestic migrants had not left the United States in the 12 months preceding their interview. Like international migrants, the overall and relative shares of domestic migrants changed between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Domestic shuttle migrants comprised nine percent of all crop workers and 18 percent of migrants in the earlier period; their share decreased to six percent of all workers and 13 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of domestic follow-the-crop migrants also decreased between the two periods. They comprised nine percent of all workers and 20 percent of migrants in 1993-1994, but were six percent of all and 13 percent of migrants in 2001-2002.

          • The High Cost of Cheap Labor | Center for Immigration Studies

            This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal immigration on
            the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused on the state and local …

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          • Yet another right-wing hate organization.

          • More idiocy from boob the liberal troll and ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADER lover.

          • Well Pam “the Special Troll”

            “More idiocy from boob the liberal troll and ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADER lover”

            Lunacy Pam? What have you brought to the table aside from excessive babbling?

          • Here is some more Raffael,

            Top 10 Myths About Immigration

            By Leo Anchondo of Justice for Immigrants

            Immigrants don’t pay taxes.
            Immigrants pay taxes, in the form of income, property, sales, and taxes at the federal and state level. As far as income tax payments go, sources vary in their accounts, but a range of studies find that immigrants pay between $90 and $140 billion a year in federal, state, and local taxes. Undocumented immigrants pay income taxes as well, as evidenced by the Social Security Administration’s “suspense file” (taxes that cannot be matched to workers’ names and social security numbers), which grew by $20 billion between 1990 and 1998.
            (Source: http://www.immigrationforum.or

            Immigrants come here to take welfare.
            Immigrants come to work and reunite with family members. Immigrant labor force participation is consistently higher than native-born, and immigrant workers make up a larger share of the U.S. labor force (12.4%) than they do the U.S. population (11.5%). Moreover, the ratio between immigrant use of public benefits and the amount of taxes they pay is consistently favorable to the U.S. In one estimate, immigrants earn about $240 billion a year, pay about $90 billion a year in taxes, and use about $5 billion in public benefits. In another cut of the data, immigrant tax payments total $20 to $30 billion more than the amount of government services they use.
            (Source: “Questioning Immigration Policy – Can We Afford to Open Our Arms?”, Friends Committee on National Legislation Document #G-606-DOM, January 25, 1996. http:www.fas.org/pub/gen/fcnl/…

            Immigrants send all their money back to their home countries.
            In addition to the consumer spending of immigrant households, immigrants and their businesses contribute $162 billion in tax revenue to U.S. federal, state, and local governments. While it is true that immigrants remit billions of dollars a year to their home countries, this is one of the most targeted and effective forms of direct foreign investment.
            (Source: http://www.cato.org/research/a

            Immigrants take jobs and opportunity away from Americans.
            The largest wave of immigration to the U.S. since the early 1900s coincided with our lowest national unemployment rate and fastest economic growth. Immigrant entrepreneurs create jobs for U.S. and foreign workers, and foreign-born students allow many U.S. graduate programs to keep their doors open. While there has been no comprehensive study done of immigrant-owned businesses, we have countless examples: in Silicon Valley, companies begun by Chinese and Indian immigrants generated more than $19.5 billion in sales and nearly 73,000 jobs in 2000.
            (Source: Richard Vedder, Lowell Gallaway, and Stephen Moore, Immigration and Unemployment: New Evidence, Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, Arlington, VA (Mar. 1994), p. 13.)

            Immigrants are a drain on the U.S. economy.
            During the 1990s, half of all new workers were foreign-born, filling gaps left by native-born workers in both the high- and low-skill ends of the spectrum. Immigrants fill jobs in key sectors, start their own businesses, and contribute to a thriving economy. The net benefit of immigration to the U.S. is nearly $10 billion annually. As Alan Greenspan points out, 70% of immigrants arrive in prime working age. That means we haven’t spent a penny on their education, yet they are transplanted into our workforce and will contribute $500 billion toward our social security system over the next 20 years.
            (Source: Andrew Sum, Mykhaylo Trubskyy, Ishwar Khatiwada, et al., Immigrant Workers in the New England Labor Market: Implications for Workforce Development Policy, Center for Labor Market Studies, Northeastern University, Boston, Prepared for the New England Regional Office, the Employment and Training Administration, and the U.S. Department of Labor, Boston, Massachusetts, October 2002. http://www.nupr.neu.edu/11-02/

            Immigrants don’t want to learn English or become Americans.
            Within ten years of arrival, more than 75% of immigrants speak English well; moreover, demand for English classes at the adult level far exceeds supply. Greater than 33% of immigrants are naturalized citizens; given increased immigration in the 1990s, this figure will rise as more legal permanent residents become eligible for naturalization in the coming years. The number of immigrants naturalizing spiked sharply after two events: enactment of immigration and welfare reform laws in 1996, and the terrorist attacks in 2001.
            (Source: American Immigration Lawyers Association, Myths & Facts in the Immigration Debate”, 8/14/03.http://www.aila.org/contentViewer.asp
            (Source: Simon Romero and Janet Elder, “Hispanics in the US Report Optimism” New York Times, Aug. 6, 2003)

            Today’s immigrants are different than those of 100 years ago.
            The percentage of the U.S. population that is foreign-born now stands at 11.5%; in the early 20th century it was approximately 15%. Similar to accusations about today’s immigrants, those of 100 years ago initially often settled in mono-ethnic neighborhoods, spoke their native languages, and built up newspapers and businesses that catered to their fellow émigrés. They also experienced the same types of discrimination that today’s immigrants face, and integrated within American culture at a similar rate. If we view history objectively, we remember that every new wave of immigrants has been met with suspicion and doubt and yet, ultimately, every past wave of immigrants has been vindicated and saluted.
            (Source: Census Data: http://www.census.gov/prod/200

            Most immigrants cross the border illegally.
            Around 75% of today’s immigrants have legal permanent (immigrant) visas; of the 25% that are undocumented, 40% overstayed temporary (non-immigrant) visas.
            (Source: Department of Homeland Security http://uscis.gov/graphics/shar

            Weak U.S. border enforcement has led to high undocumented immigration.
            From 1986 to 1998, the Border Patrol’s budget increased six-fold and the number of agents stationed on our southwest border doubled to 8,500. The Border Patrol also toughened its enforcement strategy, heavily fortifying typical urban entry points and pushing migrants into dangerous desert areas, in hopes of deterring crossings. Instead, the undocumented immigrant population doubled in that timeframe, to 8 million-despite the legalization of nearly 3 million immigrants after the enactment of the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986. Insufficient legal avenues for immigrants to enter the U.S., compared with the number of jobs in need of workers, has significantly contributed to this current conundrum.
            (Source: Immigration and Naturalization website:http://www.ncjrs.org/ondcppubs

            The war on terrorism can be won through immigration restrictions.
            No security expert since September 11th, 2001 has said that restrictive immigration measures would have prevented the terrorist attacks-instead, the key is effective use of good intelligence. Most of the 9/11 hijackers were here on legal visas. Since 9/11, the myriad of measures targeting immigrants in the name of national security have netted no terrorism prosecutions. In fact, several of these measures could have the opposite effect and actually make us less safe, as targeted communities of immigrants are afraid to come forward with information.
            (Source: Associated Press/Dow Jones Newswires, “US Senate Subcommittee Hears Immigration Testimony”, Oct. 17, 2001.)
            (Source: Cato Institute: “Don’t Blame Immigrants for Terrorism”, Daniel Griswold, Assoc. Director of Cato Institute’s Center for Trade Policy Studies http://www.cato.org/dailys/10-

            http://www immigrationpolicy org/high-school/top-10-myths-about-immigration

          • One out of about every twelve newborns in the United States is an anchor baby, or the U.S.-born child of illegal migrants, according to a Pew Research Center study.

            This means that one anchor baby is delivered every 93 seconds, based on the 2008 census data analyzed by the Pew.

            The huge number of foreign children born on U.S. soil– roughly 340,000 per year— is also an economic imposition on Americans, who pay taxes to help raise, feed, and educate those children of illegal migrants.

            Eventually, those 340,000 U.S.-born foreign children can join the U.S. workforce and compete for wages against the roughly four million children of U.S. parents that enter the slow-growing U.S. economy each year.

            Only 28 percent of likely U.S. voters believe that children born to illegal migrants in this country should automatically be American citizens, according to a 2011 Rasmussen Reports survey. In fact, the proposal is so unpopular that even Jeb Bush, who favors large-scale immigration, has criticized pregnant foreigners who grab citizenship for their kids by flying into the country posing as tourists. Bush described the practice as “fraud,” and asserted that, “Frankly, it’s more related to Asian people coming into our country — having children in that organized effort, taking advantage of a noble concept, which is birthright citizenship”

            Read more at http://visiontoamerica.com/23602/cencus-anchor-baby-delivered-every

          • You were talking about objective sources Raffeal?

            “Vision To America is a division of Christian Worldview Communications, LLC. Founded in 2006 by Gary DeMar and Brandon Vallorani, Vision to America exists to help America return to our Founding Father’s vision for a Christian Republic. America was once a light to the world—a place that God blessed with liberty and prosperity. Today, Americans are taught that the Almighty State has all the answers. As a result, our God-given liberties are being traded for a false sense of security. It is our Vision to see Americans once again recognize that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights and that this Creator is the God of the Bible.Read more at http://visiontoamerica.com/about-us/#Xa05d9AXSvRLYlh3.99

          • Bob666 ; I am not here to fight with you or anyone else .
            In America we have laws , rules , regulations that have to be respected , obeyed and enforced .
            You can`t go to another country without permission , it is one of the many laws we have ; this is also an International law and a law very well enforced in Mexico .
            Our present admin , congress , lawyers , judges , do not care about our laws .So : how are we going to solve this Illegal Immigration Problem .??? Of course , if you agree that we have a problem.
            I don`t have an answer ; do you have an answer .??
            We have a Problem and no answer .
            The answer could be : Go Home and come back the Legal Way . Not resolving the problem , it is having more problems .
            You and me are here fighting each other ; just like a competition ; at times this competition gets out of control and : Insults , name calling .
            I hope we don`t get there and we keep it civilized.
            Thanks.

          • I am a Christian , God and Jesus are my friends .
            A disabled vet of 73 ; Hell on Wheels , 2 I.D.

          • God Bless you, and thank you for your service…

          • Christian Worldview Communications, A FAUX “christian” organizatiion so spew and skew what the Bible says and means. I bet the two founders BOTH voted for Obama and are left winger liberal idiots.

          • Well Pam “the Special Troll”,
            was there a point to your diatribe?

          • I would like someone to explain to me why Christian organizations and churches are operating as a charity to flood Muslims into this country! Are they totally dilussional, are they hoping to hasten the “End of Times,” are they such bleeding-hearted idiots they know not what they do, or what idiocy has infected Christians in this country, 50% of which don’t even bother to register to vote, and only 50% of Christians who are registered vote! That’s why we’re suffering seven years of tribulation under the Islamic tyranny of Barack Obama! If you’re wondering if I have any respect for Christianity, I do. I was raised Christian, but I didn’t allow Christianity to destroy my intellect or allow it to turn me into a stupid sheep!

          • The Asians only account for 60,000 of the 340,000 to 400,000 anchor babies per year. The vast majority are Hispanics who think they have the right to invade our country and take back the territory the United States paid for via the Treaty of Hidalgo in 1849!

          • Both Jeb Bush and Ca politicians point a finger at the Asians while ignoring the major problem which is hispanic anchor babies. I am against BOTH types of misuse of our law and believe we need to end birthright citizenship to anyone here illegally or here on a temporary visa of any kind. Why do they persecute the Asians but ignore the hispancis???? It is because of potential votes. Hispanics stay and use their babies as the real anchors. They show up at the hospital with no intention of paying and then immediately get on the US taxpayer gravy train of welfare benefits for their new US citizen. Most Asians return home with their children. Here in Ca the estimated cost to US taxpayers for each illegal alien family is $52,000 a year for welfare and education. Bush says illegal immigration is an act of love. It is love of themselves, you cannot tell me that they love us. They only love our money and have no problem stealing it from us. Maybe it is time the illegals do the humane thing and relive the Americans of the HUGE financial, educational and criminal burden they put on us!!!!

          • I can continue to dump metrics from very legitimate sources Raffael, can you?

            SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America – Rense.com

            Illegal alien migration into the United States costs American taxpayers $346
            billion annually reported by the National Research Council. While employers of …

            http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm – 17k – Cached – Similar Pages

          • Wow! Thanks for updating my erroneous figures! I’ve been broadcasting the figure of $100 billion per year. Your figure makes infinitely more sense, especially since Ann Coulter updated the true figure of illegals from the 11-12 million the liberals espouse to 31.6 million. Compare that to the $150 billion it cost for Katrina and the brain wakes up! Well, at least for those who still have a brain, it does, and should, and damned well better!

          • BALONEY! Its a Conspiracy to Mislead us into beleiving this CRAP! Why? Its all about Taxes! Both the Fed and State want their Taxes! Most of these Hispanics Get paid in Cash and The FED and STATE doesn’t get their Taxes! and you Taxpayers have to make up the difference? But they spend that $ locally and thus pay State Taxes ! Supporting your community! and they Can’t get Food Stamps ! I hire them to Mow my lawn to other landscapping jobs and their Wives come in and Do housecleaning everyother week ! They are wonderfull People ! And Fellow CHRISTENS! Catholics and not Muslims!

            and She uses Birth Control ! That is the Only thing she gets For Free thru The Planned Parenthood clinic for her and her 16 yr old Teenage Daughter..

            and this Couple does the same for 3 others Now In My Neighborhood and 2 of them are Handicapped Seniors , inturn allowing them to Stay Living in their home and Not in a Nursing Home

          • Don`t pick and chose what you like the most : Be Fair and Read all the Reports . Illegals would not come here just for nothing or work for Nothing . Think and Reason : Why Illegals from all over the Planet are Invading our Country .???

          • I believe that I have been rational and fair. Are you ready to pay $12.00 for a head of lettuce?

          • That is another Story : Nothing wrong with Mexican manpower coming here to work in the fields during the season ; collect their money and go home ; come back again when needed . This could be done the Right way Not the Illegal way . The farmer in need of manpower can request so many workers needed for that purpose ; pay decent price and be responsible of the workers . That can be done legally and I am all for that . Why not . I made this same proposition to my local Representatives , but like always ; no interest .

          • That is another Story? Who’s cherry picking now Raffael?

          • Well , if you don`t like ” that is another story ” just disregard it and keep reading . The meaning of ” that is another story ” is = Now we are moving to Mexicans working in agriculture or Ranches , cattles etc.

          • WATCH THESE DREAMERS: Scale the Border Wall with Drugs In Broad Day…

            Read this article

          • sorry , can`t get it to work . Intersting to

          • BOOb the troll spew and ignorance with NO FACTS to back up its stupidity.

          • Well Pam “The Special Troll”,

            “BOOb the troll spew and ignorance with NO FACTS to back up its stupidity”.

            Thanks for confirming your comprehension problems.

          • More ignorance and false flags from boob the liberal troll.

          • What an ugly special Troll you are Pam.

          • Bob where do you get these stupid figures from anyway. Long before the illegals came here we picked our own crops and no problem. Today since welfare pays so well we have to import Mexicans but if you put all the mexicans here that don’t belong there wouldn’t even be standing room in the fields.

          • Well Glenn,
            Where do I get get these “stupid” prices from?

            Consumers who pay $1 for a pound of apples are giving 30 cents to the farmer and 10 cents to the farm worker; those spending $2 for a head of lettuce are giving 50 cents to the farmer and 16 cents to the farm worker.

            If the influx of immigrant workers were slowed or stopped and farm wages rose, what would happen to expenditures on fresh fruits and vegetables? A case study from 1966 could give us some idea.

            That year, the United Farm Workers union won a 40 percent wage increase for some table grape harvesters, largely because the end of the Bracero program had cut off a supply of Mexican workers. The average earnings of U.S. field workers were $10.07 an hour in 2009, according to a U.S.D.A. survey of farm employers. If pressure to verify employees’ legal status resulted in a labor crisis similar to the one in 1966 and a similar 40 percent wage increase, average hourly earnings would rise to $14.10. If this were passed on to consumers, the 10 cent farm labor cost of a pound of apples would rise to 14 cents, and the $1 retail price would rise to $1.04.

            That would make the $0.14/head for lettuces $0.23/head in 2009 dollars. But since the unemployment rate is at +/- 5.9% and you deport that many undocumented workers, then you would effectively drive the unemployment rate well below 4% and more than triple that $0.23/hear of lettuce and that if you could get a lazy American to last more than a couple of hours in the sunshine with a porta-potty.

            I might remind you that Florida Citrus growers saw their crops rot off of tree in Florida in 2005 during the building boom as all of those brown faces that use to pick oranges for less than minimum wage were hanging sheet rock (from China) for $16.00/hour.

            And other “stupid” questions

          • You can spout all the figures you want but the market decided what prices are. As far as the employment dropping around 4.4 percent if you get the sorry people off welfare that wouldn’t be true. Guess you also don’t think over 20 million Mexicans in this country is enough

          • OK Glenn, Let’s see just how sharp your really are.

            Question; What is the single largest group of public assistance recipients?

          • What about Illegal Criminal Aliens , Killing , Raping , Pedophiles ; Assaulting and attacking Americans every single day . ???

          • What about European descendant Criminals , Killing , Raping , Pedophiles Assaulting and attacking Americans every single day .

          • sometime ; not as many as illegals

          • Troll spew warning, Troll spew warning
            Boob the troll is spewing leftist BULLSHYTE.

          • Oh it’s Pam “The Special Troll”.
            Waiting for the Short bus to pick you up?

          • Just like a liberal, trying to mingle legal and illegal as if conservatives are talking about them as one. Only left-wing loonies do that.

          • I would have say that is down right funny sonny!

          • Well Pam “the special troll”
            That was some bowel movement you had………………
            Your mom must be so proud?

          • I hired an Illegal Woman and she and her Teenage Daughter ( 16) come to my Home and Do Housecleaning and other Jobs! They both are wonderfull people- Fellow Catholics and They both practices Safe Sex with Getting Free Birth Control They go to School to learn English, Cooking School , And in 2 yrs will be certified Care Givers for the State! It would cost me 3x as Much to hire Family Services to do it ! God Bless them!

          • If you don’t think your Great Grand and Grand Parents who came over on the Boats in the Teens & 30’s from Europe, wouldn’t done the same if lived in Canada, as many Did going thru Canada 1st and then into the USA ? Think again!

          • Wrong ; I was born in Africa , came here LEGALLY , in 1970 to be a free man in a free Nation. I had funds not to be a burden to the people ; I had a clean medical and criminal record from origin as requested by Laws . 1976 I became a Naturalized Citizen , taking a test in the English language , in front of a Judge ; speak , read, write , comprehension , history of this Land , the Constitution , executive , legislative , judiciary , et. etc. I served the Army , the people , the Nation ; retired in 95 , all cut up to pieces . I came alone and I Assimilated. Freedom is not Free. Now you know .

          • Boob; If you are too stupid to read the news and follow the facts no one can help your lack of brains.

          • Well Pam :the special troll”

            “Bppb; If you are too stupid to read the news and follow the facts no one can help your lack of brains”.

            What have you brought to the table?

          • Michael Dennewitz

            Ahhhh, ANOTHER DAMNED TROLL! !

          • So I’m going on a limb that when I ask for metrics as proof-ya got nothing there do ya Michael? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7097b63590ba1ef0b1a1166118d6d5de7d2185741877693c238b37ba8f3f338a.jpg
            …………..Michael Dennewitz at work……………..

          • Angry
            In California you don’t even have to lie

          • No boob666, BUT you are being a total moron and idiot and supporting their ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION. Pull your head out and STOP helping criminal activity.

          • Well Pam “the special troll”,

            “No boob666, BUT you are being a total moron and idiot and supporting their ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION. Pull your head out and STOP helping criminal activity”.

            That was some statement, does your head hurt from the mental activity?

          • Yup! I believe the term is underground economy. Under Obama it works like a charm!

          • The “underground economy” has worked well for decades.

          • That’s why we need a consumption tax instead of an income tax, except on those earning $1 Million of above a year, whether from investment income or wages. They should be taxed on all total income at 35%.

          • Well Glenn,
            there is a term in economics called “regressive” and consumption taxes are regressive by nature.

          • I you are paying them to mow your yard, you are part of the problem and should send a little time in jail.

          • They mow your yard, clean your hotel rooms, fix your cars, butcher your meat, pick your fruit and vegetables. Most likely, if you bought a home in the last ten years, they formed, poured and finished the concrete, laid the block or framed the walls, hung the sheet rock and put the roof on your house.
            Some of us get that, other have their head buried up their rear ends.

          • LOL– I have had both- Hispanic Landscapers and Local White and they Both Collect UnEmployment and Other Welfare in the off Season.. Now Unless you want to pay them 50% more ? Let them! and remember over 90% of that ‘UnEmployment/Welfare $ ” goes right back into the Community and In State Sales Taxes..

          • Disgusted with the GOP

            You are stupid beyond words.

          • More hate.
            More bigotry.
            More embarrassment for America.

          • Then stipulate that only “legal” residents, those that entered the country legally with the exception of the Chinese who bought visas just to have children born here, can receive the benefits. But the liberals in Congress are so afraid of losing their jobs and votes, they will NEVER do it.

          • “Family-based Immigrant Visas”. U.S. Department of State. Retrieved August 16, 2015. U.S. citizens must be age 21 or older to file petitions for siblings or parents.

          • All they have to do is pop out an anchor baby on American soil and they’re set! How do you figure they don’t qualify when their little buddle of illegal joy is classified by the liberals as a U.S. citizen, and an automatic Democrat voter when they turn 18!

          • Your ignorance is an embarrassment to America — all Americans. At best, the baby’s family would need to wait for 21 years before being able to use their child’s US citizenship to modify their immigration status.

            “Family-based Immigrant Visas”. U.S. Department of State. Retrieved August 16, 2015. U.S. citizens must be age 21 or older to file petitions for siblings or parents.

          • In this country there’s 350,000 illegals in jail that cost taxpayers billions. California’s prison population is at 13% and they’re illegal friendly and one of the reasons California is 17 billion in debt. California also has 33% of all welfare cases in the country. Illegals do get benefits.

          • More lies. Where do you get this idiocy?

            You will find the following statement in the elibility requirements of every program offered by the State:

            In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of the state of California, a U.S. national, citizen, permanent resident, or legal alien …

          • Have a search engine? Illegals costs the country billions for the taxpayers. California welcomes illegal, and not with waiting jobs but with welfare. It’s a sanctuary state. It’s all about votes and power for the democrats. Are you going to tell me they don’t vote?
            HARDY HAR HAR HAR

          • Votes? Illegals cannot vote. Anchor babies are a myth. An individual must be 21 to sponsor anyone.
            Welfare? LOL. It is a federal/state program. Only a citizen or resident alien may sponsor an immigrant. The sponsor must be 21 years old.
            Non citizens cannot vote. They do not vote.
            I suspect you have never voted in your life. You do not seem to have the slightest idea what is required.
            I’ve lived in 26 of the 50 states. A birth certificate, two official identification cards and proof of local address is required to register to vote.

          • Illegals don’t vote? Why do you think that the democrats are trying to get rid of voter ID, so illegals can vote, because the free stuff people vote democrat. Anchor babies are real and neither party denies it, only partisan hacks like yourself.

          • You are very, very light in the history department.

            Poll taxes are illegal. They have been illegal for a very, very long time.

            If a person must pay for a state identification card in order to vote, then the state has effectively imposed a poll tax.

          • The “anchor baby” is a false myth.

            But, you know any lie is acceptable when one is peddling bigotry.

            Only individuals age 21 and above may serve as an immigration sponsor.

            So called “anchor babies” are deported every day. When they reach the age of majority, they can legally return to the U.S.

          • True, most laws require that only citizens and legal immigrants are eligible, but most applications do not require PROOF of legality/eligibility so without proof required, anyone can and do sign up.

          • Why is it that right-wingers cannot spend the few minutes it takes to look up eligibility requirements?
            I suspect that having been a military spouse for over 25 years, I am far more familiar with identification required by state for obtaining even a drivers’ license, let alone registering to vote.

          • Go apply for benefits — see how far you get without a birth certificate.

            I am a disability advocate. I help the newly disabled obtain the benefits they need just to survive.

            Stop telling lies. Stop repeating lies.

          • First of all nobody is talking about disability, I am talking about things like the Affordable Care Act, ACA, which is supposed not include illegal immigrants, put since it is done “on line” there is no way to know if somebody is an illegal or not, secondly about driver licenses, unless they are in a state that now allows driver licenses, most illegal immigrants don’t bother getting a license, and don’t bother with insurance either, and yes I personally know of illegal immigrants that have done this. And nobody is talking about registering to vote, but without photo ID, someone can easily assume the name of a registered voter and vote under that name. So quit nitpicking a few things to make a point. And just for the record, I don’t blame people for coming to America for a better life for themselves or their families, it’s what you do, I blame the Federal Government for not only allowing illegal immigrants in, but rewarding them for doing so. The Democrats wanting more immigration for both votes and to flood the job market with cheap labor and the Republicans mostly for cheap labor to keep wages down.
            I wish that our current economy was good enough, and the job market was strong enough that we could easily take in the worlds poor.

          • What in the world are you talking about?

            The ACA is not a “welfare” program.

            The ACA controls health insurance companies.

            The ACA governs health insurance policies — that people pay for…

            If illegals have the money and want to buy health insurance, great!

            Then we don’t end up paying for the care they get at an ER.

          • So in that thought, drivers licenses and voter registration are not welfare programs either, but you brought them up, I was giving an example of a Government program that Illegal immigrants are ineligible for by law but could sign up for anyway. And you are right Illegal immigrants can got to an ER and get treatment, and we Americans pick up the tab just like a “WELFARE” program, hey, thanks for reminding me!!!!!

          • Tell you what, Donald, why don’t we simply have an epidemic instead.

            You know, like the ones started by the anti-vaccination crazies.

            Which would you prefer — flu, typhoid, syphilis, mumps ???

          • AKLady, apparently, I have just about sent you over the edge,
            going from a blog about saving billions by have a strong immigration policy to
            having some kind of epidemic.

            I was going to ignore your first reply because you started
            off using a derogatory remark calling me a “right- winger”, (I usually ignore
            idiots that start off name calling), then you made a second post calling me a “liar”,
            so you picked this fight! Apparently having lost the argument you have starting
            rambling nonsense, so I suggest you put down the computer, take a couple of
            deep breaths, go back on your Meds!!

          • Suggest you visit the CDC web site and study some statistics.

            When you have done that, take a look at your state’s health department’s site and view those stats.

            Have a nice day

          • Driving, which is better to test or not to test? Unlicensed they have not been tested.

            Voter registration — a birth certificate and two forms of identification are required in most states.

            It would be far less expensive for illegals to be provided Medicaid. One ER visit can cost $1,000 or more.

          • And aklady; You are are a total idiot and left winger moron.
            The government social workers PAY NO ATTENTION to those requirements. LOOK at the STUPID left winger controlled states NOW issuing drivers licenses.

          • Pam,
            your an idiot & a troll

          • Yet another right-winger full of hate.
            The immigrants are going to drive — licensed or not.
            I don’t know about you, but I would very much prefer they were competent at the wheel and knowledgeable as to the traffic laws.

          • No freebies for illegals, you say? Who runs the social-service departments in this country? Are you thinking conservative, law-abiding public servants are doling out the benefits? Think again! Many of the same folks who worked with ACORN to get Obama elected by whatever means now work doling out those benefits to illegals while denying them to generational whites and legal immigrants! Then there’s the Anchor Baby racket, which sucks up untold billions per year. All told, the estimate is $100 Billion paid to illegals.

          • Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

            Anchor Baby is a myth.

            You have been lied to.

            You have swallowed that lie — hook, line and sinker.

            Law says that “anchor baby” has to be 21 years old to aid any family member to immigrate.

            Get an education.

          • WHAT IF THEY LEFT

            Considering the Denver Post, I’m surprised they published
            this. This really shows how the hiring of illegals is false economic
            practice.

            Tina Griego is a Free-Lance reporter for the Denver Post.
            She writes some really good stuff and she is a strong advocate for LEGAL
            immigration Homework on issues is part of her make-up and fabric …

            What if they left?

            It does not have a political slant to it, it’s just the
            facts: Not Democratic, not Republican, not liberal and not conservative.

            What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?

            I, Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain
            News wrote a column titled, “Mexican Visitor’s Lament.”

            I interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while
            visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, “Illegal aliens pay rent,
            buy groceries, buy clothes. What happens to your country’s economy if 20
            million people go away?”

            Hmmm, I thought, what would happen?

            So I did my due diligence, buried my nose as a reporter into the
            FACTS I found below.

            It’s a good question… it deserves an honest answer. Over
            80% of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped.
            But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?
            The answers I found may surprise you!

            In California, if 3.5 million
            illegal aliens moved back to Mexico,
            it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems,
            bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner,
            safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as
            English became the dominant language again.

            In Colorado, 500,000 illegal
            migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandchildren would move back
            “home,” mostly to Mexico.
            That would save Colorado
            an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that
            pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs.

            It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

            Colorado would save more than $20 million in
            prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local
            citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered
            death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

            Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% dropout/flunk rate
            because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different
            languages. At least200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked
            cities in Colorado.
            Denver’s 4%
            unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living
            wage.

            In Florida, 1.5 million illegals
            would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and
            English.

            In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up
            hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more
            crime-free experience.

            If 20 million illegal aliens returned ‘home,’ the U.S. economy
            would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American
            citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because
            they wouldn’t be working off the books. That would result in an
            additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal
            amount for local, state and city coffers.

            No more push ‘1’ for Spanish or ‘2’ for English. No more
            confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages
            that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded
            schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of
            billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

            We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of
            more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members
            who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

            In cities like L.A.,
            20,000 members of the ‘ 18th
            Street Gang’ would vanish from our nation.
            No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign
            rapists and child molesters!

            Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded
            highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American
            deaths by illegal aliens!

            America’s economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed.
            Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn’t return to the
            aliens’ home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half
            that money untaxed, which further drains America’s economy which currently
            suffers a $20 trillion debt. $20 trillion debt!!!

            At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country,
            costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in
            California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being
            bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

            Americans wouldn’t suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases
            rampant in our country – brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

            Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and
            grid locking our cities. It would also put the ‘progressives’ on the
            horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our
            greenhouse gases.

            Over one million of Mexico’s poorest citizens now live inside and
            along our border from Brownsville, Texas, to San Diego, California, in what the
            New York Times called, ‘colonias’ or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those
            living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth,
            diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without
            sewage, clean water, streets, roads, electricity, or any kind of sanitation.

            The New York Times reported them to be America’s new ‘ Third World
            ‘ inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate,
            they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. (I’ve seen them
            personally in Texas and Arizona; it’s sickening beyond anything you can imagine.)

            By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to
            Mexico. We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
            countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a
            million people into our country legally annually, more than all other countries
            combined. We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more
            anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our
            nation.

            It’s time to stand up for our country, our culture, our
            civilization and our way of life. Interesting Statistics!

            Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America, and I
            hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times
            that the reader gets sick of reading them:

            1. $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on
            welfare to illegal aliens (that’s Billion with a ‘B’)

            3. $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for
            illegal aliens.

            4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and
            secondary school education for children here illegally and they still cannot
            speak a word of English

            5. $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for
            the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

            6. $3 Million Dollars ‘PER DAY’ is spent to incarcerate
            illegal aliens. That’s $1.2 Billion a year.

            7. 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal
            aliens.

          • Interesting read, there are other sides to the story.

            Top 10 Myths About Immigration

            By Leo Anchondo of Justice for Immigrants

            Immigrants don’t pay taxes.
            Immigrants pay taxes, in the form of income, property, sales, and taxes at the federal and state level. As far as income tax payments go, sources vary in their accounts, but a range of studies find that immigrants pay between $90 and $140 billion a year in federal, state, and local taxes. Undocumented immigrants pay income taxes as well, as evidenced by the Social Security Administration’s “suspense file” (taxes that cannot be matched to workers’ names and social security numbers), which grew by $20 billion between 1990 and 1998.
            (Source: http://www.immigrationforum.org/about/articles/tax_study.htm)

            Immigrants come here to take welfare.
            Immigrants come to work and reunite with family members. Immigrant labor force participation is consistently higher than native-born, and immigrant workers make up a larger share of the U.S. labor force (12.4%) than they do the U.S. population (11.5%). Moreover, the ratio between immigrant use of public benefits and the amount of taxes they pay is consistently favorable to the U.S. In one estimate, immigrants earn about $240 billion a year, pay about $90 billion a year in taxes, and use about $5 billion in public benefits. In another cut of the data, immigrant tax payments total $20 to $30 billion more than the amount of government services they use.
            (Source: “Questioning Immigration Policy – Can We Afford to Open Our Arms?”, Friends Committee on National Legislation Document #G-606-DOM, January 25, 1996. http:www.fas.org/pub/gen/fcnl/immigra.html)

            Immigrants send all their money back to their home countries.
            In addition to the consumer spending of immigrant households, immigrants and their businesses contribute $162 billion in tax revenue to U.S. federal, state, and local governments. While it is true that immigrants remit billions of dollars a year to their home countries, this is one of the most targeted and effective forms of direct foreign investment.
            (Source: http://www.cato.org/research/articles/griswold-020218.html)

            Immigrants take jobs and opportunity away from Americans.
            The largest wave of immigration to the U.S. since the early 1900s coincided with our lowest national unemployment rate and fastest economic growth. Immigrant entrepreneurs create jobs for U.S. and foreign workers, and foreign-born students allow many U.S. graduate programs to keep their doors open. While there has been no comprehensive study done of immigrant-owned businesses, we have countless examples: in Silicon Valley, companies begun by Chinese and Indian immigrants generated more than $19.5 billion in sales and nearly 73,000 jobs in 2000.
            (Source: Richard Vedder, Lowell Gallaway, and Stephen Moore, Immigration and Unemployment: New Evidence, Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, Arlington, VA (Mar. 1994), p. 13.)

            Immigrants are a drain on the U.S. economy.
            During the 1990s, half of all new workers were foreign-born, filling gaps left by native-born workers in both the high- and low-skill ends of the spectrum. Immigrants fill jobs in key sectors, start their own businesses, and contribute to a thriving economy. The net benefit of immigration to the U.S. is nearly $10 billion annually. As Alan Greenspan points out, 70% of immigrants arrive in prime working age. That means we haven’t spent a penny on their education, yet they are transplanted into our workforce and will contribute $500 billion toward our social security system over the next 20 years.
            (Source: Andrew Sum, Mykhaylo Trubskyy, Ishwar Khatiwada, et al., Immigrant Workers in the New England Labor Market: Implications for Workforce Development Policy, Center for Labor Market Studies, Northeastern University, Boston, Prepared for the New England Regional Office, the Employment and Training Administration, and the U.S. Department of Labor, Boston, Massachusetts, October 2002. http://www.nupr.neu.edu/11-02/immigration.PDF)

            Immigrants don’t want to learn English or become Americans.
            Within ten years of arrival, more than 75% of immigrants speak English well; moreover, demand for English classes at the adult level far exceeds supply. Greater than 33% of immigrants are naturalized citizens; given increased immigration in the 1990s, this figure will rise as more legal permanent residents become eligible for naturalization in the coming years. The number of immigrants naturalizing spiked sharply after two events: enactment of immigration and welfare reform laws in 1996, and the terrorist attacks in 2001.
            (Source: American Immigration Lawyers Association, Myths & Facts in the Immigration Debate”, 8/14/03.http://www.aila.org/contentViewer.aspx?bc=17,142#section4)
            (Source: Simon Romero and Janet Elder, “Hispanics in the US Report Optimism” New York Times, Aug. 6, 2003)

            Today’s immigrants are different than those of 100 years ago.
            The percentage of the U.S. population that is foreign-born now stands at 11.5%; in the early 20th century it was approximately 15%. Similar to accusations about today’s immigrants, those of 100 years ago initially often settled in mono-ethnic neighborhoods, spoke their native languages, and built up newspapers and businesses that catered to their fellow émigrés. They also experienced the same types of discrimination that today’s immigrants face, and integrated within American culture at a similar rate. If we view history objectively, we remember that every new wave of immigrants has been met with suspicion and doubt and yet, ultimately, every past wave of immigrants has been vindicated and saluted.
            (Source: Census Data: http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/censr-4.pdf)

            Most immigrants cross the border illegally.
            Around 75% of today’s immigrants have legal permanent (immigrant) visas; of the 25% that are undocumented, 40% overstayed temporary (non-immigrant) visas.
            (Source: Department of Homeland Security http://uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statistics/index.htm)

            Weak U.S. border enforcement has led to high undocumented immigration.
            From 1986 to 1998, the Border Patrol’s budget increased six-fold and the number of agents stationed on our southwest border doubled to 8,500. The Border Patrol also toughened its enforcement strategy, heavily fortifying typical urban entry points and pushing migrants into dangerous desert areas, in hopes of deterring crossings. Instead, the undocumented immigrant population doubled in that timeframe, to 8 million-despite the legalization of nearly 3 million immigrants after the enactment of the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986. Insufficient legal avenues for immigrants to enter the U.S., compared with the number of jobs in need of workers, has significantly contributed to this current conundrum.
            (Source: Immigration and Naturalization website:http://www.ncjrs.org/ondcppubs/publications/enforce/border/ins_3.html)

            The war on terrorism can be won through immigration restrictions.
            No security expert since September 11th, 2001 has said that restrictive immigration measures would have prevented the terrorist attacks-instead, the key is effective use of good intelligence. Most of the 9/11 hijackers were here on legal visas. Since 9/11, the myriad of measures targeting immigrants in the name of national security have netted no terrorism prosecutions. In fact, several of these measures could have the opposite effect and actually make us less safe, as targeted communities of immigrants are afraid to come forward with information.
            (Source: Associated Press/Dow Jones Newswires, “US Senate Subcommittee Hears Immigration Testimony”, Oct. 17, 2001.)
            (Source: Cato Institute: “Don’t Blame Immigrants for Terrorism”, Daniel Griswold, Assoc. Director of Cato Institute’s Center for Trade Policy Studies
            http://www.cato.org/dailys/10-23-01.html)

          • For the truth about immigration and other issues concerning our “progressive” government, read “Plunder and deceit” by Mark Levin.

          • Mark Levine’s and an insane right wing wacky doodle.

            I would say he’s the main reason you post stupid shit on the Internet

          • Tell that to the 90 Million Americans that can not find a job, but illegals keep coming & find jobs to bad they don’t pay a living wage or a wage that is above min wage, In mexico they work for about $7.00 per week here if they make $5.00 per hour they think they are making big bucks until they find out the cost of living

          • Well angry,
            Here is what I would say to the 90 million Americans who can’t find a job; What are your expectations and how hard are you willing to work?

            I’m involved in construction here in Florida and most of the faces that I see doing the really hard and dirty work are brown. Some are white and some are black, but 2/3’s of what I see are brown and the subcontractors that I talk to, tell me that those who show up to do those really difficult and hard jobs are primarily brown.

            I’m also told those brown faces are the ones that tend to show up with a work ethic that allows them to keep coming back for the same hourly rate as anyone else is getting.

            The jobs I’m talking about are $14.00/hour on the low end to $25.00/hour on the high end and that runs construction. Go out to agriculture and find the average American out there picking any kind of fruit or vegetable for ten to twelve hours a day?

            Are you willing to pay four to six times for a head or lettuce or apple that was grown in this county to have only native born Americans picking that produce or should we just import those items as well? I get your angry diatribe that is prevalent on sites like this, but you can’t solve a problem until you identify the actual problem and your anger is a symptom of an actual problem in this country that I’m not sure you really want to accept or address.

          • Not every one can do construction work nor can they pick fruits & vegies myself I can & have done both. If
            Americans get hungry enough they will do any type of work, do you know what a honey dipper is? I have done that also of course I am not a proud individual & have done lots of jobs but I really prefer what I did for over 50 years & that is a die maker & many, many can not do that. My resume is full of short time jobs that some I actually became proficient at to like carpentry from framing to finish work. I worked doing finish carpentry here in Ca.l for some time it was kind of a joke that we had especially when I would go up to put in the door jam (front doors) only to find that they had a 2 X 4 bolted down where the door was to go & since it was all piece work it takes time to cut it out. The framing was done by non other than Mexicans they are good workers but dumb as a box of hammers but willing to do the work. I had a shop where we did die cutting I didn’t allow any of them on the presses, to many moving parts for them to understand. Many other shop owners found out the hard way that they are willing to learn at your expense & it can get very expensive to have a press repaired because they started it up with out looking

          • I’m guessing that you have not been on a job site in a few years?

          • True it has been quite some time since I worked construction, but even then back in the 90’s it was turning to beaners taking over the industry, most of the crews were all Mexicans & it seemed the more the merrier. One time we worked this job that had a Mexican crew of about 15 of them doing the lowest quality I have ever seen, we were siding at the time & they would send a couple ahead of the main group picking the houses that paid the best & leaving us with the lower paying houses, it didn’t take long for us to wise up & what is hood for the goose is good for the gander. So they sent me ahead to work on a house that paid much better, after I had worked for about 5 hours the beaners came up & tried to move me off of it. Didn’t work my dislike of beaners shows when I talk to them even though I try not to show it. They didn’t argue for long it only took about 2 mins for jme to pick my hammer out of the holder & with it in my hand & Me being 6’2″ & after lifting weights for 6 years at the time I weigh in the neighborhood of 232 lbs, they saw my intentions fast which was good for them because I wasn’t moving period, they only throw their weight around if they out number you by big numbers & the hammer was a good equalizer so off they went to report back to the head beaner he didn’t pursue it any farther. I would imagine they have completed the take over of just about all carpentry jobs in Ca. by now, can’t wait for the people that bought those houses to sing out why when they have an earthquake in mexico why they all run out side so the building doesn’t fall on them

          • Another side of the story.

            Figure 1.4 U.S. Employment Eligibility.

            Migrant Types

            The definition of “migrant” varies among the multitude of federal government agencies and programs that provide services to migrant and seasonal farm workers. In the NAWS, migrants are defined as persons who travel at least 75 miles during a 12-month period to obtain a farm job.[5] Overall, migrants comprised 42 percent of crop workers in 2001-2002, an 11 percent decrease from 1993-1994 when they were 47 percent.

            The migrant labor force demonstrates various migration patterns. Some migrants do no U.S. farm work at their home base, but travel 75 miles or more to do farm work in a single U.S. location and work only within a 75-mile radius of that location. In the NAWS, these workers are referred to as shuttle migrants. Workers who travel to multiple U.S. farm locations for work are called follow-the-crop migrants. Follow-the-crop migrants might or might not do U.S. farm work at their home base. These two migration patterns can be further divided between international and domestic migrants, depending on whether they crossed international borders in the 12-months prior to their NAWS interview.

            International Migrants

            Among international migrants, foreign-born newcomers are an important group to consider: in 2001-2002 they made up 16 percent of all hired crop workers, 22 percent of the foreign-born, 38 percent of the migrants, and 72 percent of all workers who were in their first year of U.S. farm employment. At the time of the interview, these workers have often not demonstrated a migration pattern within the United States, therefore they are not classified in this report as shuttle or follow-the-crop migrants. However, they are referred to as migrants in the NAWS by virtue of their having traveled at least 75 miles in their journey to the United States. As discussed in the previous section, the share of foreign-born newcomers, among all hired crop workers, increased by 60 percent between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Over the same periods, the share of foreign-born newcomers among migrants increased by 69 percent (table 1.1).

            Other international migrants include shuttle and follow-the-crop (FTC) migrants. The share of international shuttle migrants was stable over the ten-year period: they were 13 percent of all workers and 29 percent of the migrants in 1993-1994, and 13 percent of all workers and 30 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of workers who were international follow-the-cropFigure 1.4 U.S. Employment Eligibility.

            Migrant Types

            The definition of “migrant” varies among the multitude of federal government agencies and programs that provide services to migrant and seasonal farm workers. In the NAWS, migrants are defined as persons who travel at least 75 miles during a 12-month period to obtain a farm job.[5] Overall, migrants comprised 42 percent of crop workers in 2001-2002, an 11 percent decrease from 1993-1994 when they were 47 percent.

            The migrant labor force demonstrates various migration patterns. Some migrants do no U.S. farm work at their home base, but travel 75 miles or more to do farm work in a single U.S. location and work only within a 75-mile radius of that location. In the NAWS, these workers are referred to as shuttle migrants. Workers who travel to multiple U.S. farm locations for work are called follow-the-crop migrants. Follow-the-crop migrants might or might not do U.S. farm work at their home base. These two migration patterns can be further divided between international and domestic migrants, depending on whether they crossed international borders in the 12-months prior to their NAWS interview.

            International Migrants

            Among international migrants, foreign-born newcomers are an important group to consider: in 2001-2002 they made up 16 percent of all hired crop workers, 22 percent of the foreign-born, 38 percent of the migrants, and 72 percent of all workers who were in their first year of U.S. farm employment. At the time of the interview, these workers have often not demonstrated a migration pattern within the United States, therefore they are not classified in this report as shuttle or follow-the-crop migrants. However, they are referred to as migrants in the NAWS by virtue of their having traveled at least 75 miles in their journey to the United States. As discussed in the previous section, the share of foreign-born newcomers, among all hired crop workers, increased by 60 percent between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Over the same periods, the share of foreign-born newcomers among migrants increased by 69 percent (table 1.1).

            Other international migrants include shuttle and follow-the-crop (FTC) migrants. The share of international shuttle migrants was stable over the ten-year period: they were 13 percent of all workers and 29 percent of the migrants in 1993-1994, and 13 percent of all workers and 30 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of workers who were international follow-the-crop migrants, on the other hand, decreased substantially: they went from being five percent of all workers and ten percent of migrants in 1993-1994, to just two and five percent, respectively, in 2001-2002.

            Domestic Migrants

            Domestic migrants also include shuttle and follow-the-crop migrants. Unlike international migrants, domestic migrants had not left the United States in the 12 months preceding their interview. Like international migrants, the overall and relative shares of domestic migrants changed between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Domestic shuttle migrants comprised nine percent of all crop workers and 18 percent of migrants in the earlier period; their share decreased to six percent of all workers and 13 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of domestic follow-the-crop migrants also decreased between the two periods. They comprised nine percent of all workers and 20 percent of migrants in 1993-1994, but were six percent of all and 13 percent of migrants in 2001-2002.Table 1.1 Change in Migrant Types: 1993-1994 and 2001-2002 Compared 1993-19942001-2002Change in Percent ofPercent ofPercent ofMigrant TypeAllMigrantsAllMigrantsMigrantsTotal100%100%100%100%-Foreign-born newcomer10%23%16%38%+ 69%International shuttle13%29%13%30%+ 3%International FTC5%10%2%5%- 50%Domestic shuttle9%18%6%13%- 28%Domestic FTC9%20%6%14%- 30%Non Migrant53%-58%–

            migrants, on the other hand, decreased substantially: they went from being five percent of all workers and ten percent of migrants in 1993-1994, to just two and five percent, respectively, in 2001-2002.

            Domestic Migrants

            Domestic migrants also include shuttle and follow-the-crop migrants. Unlike international migrants, domestic migrants had not left the United States in the 12 months preceding their interview. Like international migrants, the overall and relative shares of domestic migrants changed between the periods 1993-1994 and 2001-2002. Domestic shuttle migrants comprised nine percent of all crop workers and 18 percent of migrants in the earlier period; their share decreased to six percent of all workers and 13 percent of the migrants in 2001-2002. The share of domestic follow-the-crop migrants also decreased between the two periods. They comprised nine percent of all workers and 20 percent of migrants in 1993-1994, but were six percent of all and 13 percent of migrants in 2001-2002. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/47adfe688213b759fde08a509b3806fab28ca75ddd6494085764efb46e2ad3c7.gif https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ba45e54476fd3d3f0aebe77de4a7e27e95d89ca34daca3a1e4bca7168392a16.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3bef8a38ca8c3085a0c94b4d6bf91483507b0e109ba7a3124373f311a24186d2.jpg

          • Superb. I will be forwarding this. I knew it was outrageous but I didn’t think it was this bad. I figured it was around 20-25B we spent but you have accounted for about 60B. Great info, thanks so much.

          • Start at our SOUTHERN BORDER Cut off the freebies,fine ANYONE employing them,or Renting to them,the Anchors do NOT get an American Birth Certificate One parent at least MUST be an AMERICAN CITIZEN ,Send the buggars home ,we can move hundreds of thousands of Troops overnight overseas ,use those planes and load them up.they won’t have to travel that far.so the fuel will not cost us too much as we will be saving 200 BILLION a year small price to pay.

          • Violate everything our Founding Fathers fought and died for.

            Violate the US Constitution.

            No think you.

          • Sending illegals home does not violate the constitution . MY grandfather came here legally did all the right things in order to enjoy what America has to offer. I expect everybody to do it the same way. IF people sneak in thru the back door they are Illegals. WOULD you allow just anybody to sneak into your HOME thru your back door and steal what you have worked for. JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.

          • Turning them back at the border is legal.

            Once in America, they are covered by the Constitution — just as you are.

          • I think we’re the only country in the world that has an anchor baby policy.

          • We do not have an “anchor baby” policy.

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

            Current U.S. federal law prevents anyone under the age of 21 from being able to petition for their non-citizen parent to be lawfully admitted into the United States for permanent residence.

            At best, the child’s family would need to wait for 21 years before being able to use their child’s US citizenship to modify their immigration status.

          • Disgusted with the GOP

            Did you know that anchor babies insure there is a welfare check and Medicaid and food stamps. Do you remember the 97 welfare reform that limited the number of welfare checks for a lifetime for US citizens does not require illegals to work, they are a payee for the benefits, since the anchor baby is a citizen. NY NJ and other democrat states don’t even limit the number of months a welfare check is given.
            Close the border, we have the technology and drones and ground penetrating technology to see tunnels. Close the border. When they say the cost to small businesses is too great to have E verify, give them a tax credit, make the damn computer available at the courthouse, at every police station, at every library for free, whatever it takes. Stop the illegals, stop chain migration and start looking at the refugee resettlement programs next. Go to refugee resettlement watch and look at how your tax dollars are spent there. Stop all immigration until we actually know who has invaded our country. Go to NumbersUSA and just see for yourself.
            Every time I hear a liberal have a temper tantrum about their mindless causes, I know they either don’t work, or they have no expectation that they will have to comply…only those that disagree with them will pay the bill. I am sick of it. As far as the cost to get rid of the porous border, compared to the cost to not, considering how much this country has wasted on the pet projects of this foolish president…Solindra(sp?), comes to mind….. Just close the loopholes so that if our country has the kind of leader we have had for the past 7 years, they will not have the power to invite the masses to our country ever again.
            The GOP is spineless, and we have allowed them to stay. Call us names, I don’t care, have a temper tantrum, I don’t care. WE have to stop the mindless pork spent by the government, we have to stop growing the entitlements for illegals and as far as them getting the jobs no American will do, if you are a US Citizen that is getting a welfare check, those are the jobs you will do to keep the check and it will be called community service…and watch how quickly able body adults with take personal responsibility to get better skills, stop thinking they are entitled to free government support! Holding adults accountable for decisions they make is the first step to their empowerment to make better decisions.
            Nothing is free in this world. WE don’t even show those that actually protect our freedom the thanks they deserve and give them the health care they need. This liberal lean our country has been on has got to stop, there won’t be enough of us knowing how to work, to have the government take our wages to support those that feel they are “entitled”.
            You all know if that liar Hillary was any one else she would be in jail, and not eligible to hold office, but the fools on the left, since they support her, and believe she is above the law, still think she is fit to be the president!!!!!!! I don’t think she is fit to clean the ass of our current president.
            So Mr Trump is arrogant, and not polished in his words, he speaks direct, and doesn’t care. If he ends the illegal’s incentives, stops the growth of entitlements, and ends the loop holes in our immigration, stops the mindless pork spending and makes the government accountable within the budget, gets rid of a bunch of federal agencies and shows the world we are no longer bowing to terrorists, and that the US doesn’t care to be “PC” any more, he has my vote.
            If he could get CA to not be a part of our nation, would be icing on the cake, let them live with their liberal ideas into extinction for all I care. I am sick of those that want to spend tax dollars on crap when the taxes paid are not theirs to spend. What is the federal government supposed to do? Secure our nation’s safety, so stop making our military weak!!!!! The rest should be done at the state level, so those with their entitlement ideas can live in their entitlement states, and work within their state’s budget!!!!!! It would be the only way to stop their crap! The federal government would ONLY GET each state’s taxes paid to support the federal government, not the way it is done now, with the states begging to get some portion of the federal dollars their state has sent in to the feds.
            So to the mindless libs I say this, I won’t get into your foolish liberal socialist PC policies, if you stay out of my pocket to pay for them. For that matter, take an illegal into your home and care for them for a lifetime, as long as not one dollar of tax payer money is spent to house feed and clothe them, they will never be able to work, and they won’t be ale to vote, but you do that in your household at your expense, I will look the other way. This will never happen, even the liberal temper tantrum criers in the street would not put their own money up to do this. 🙂

          • Muslim have a mandate to have 11 children to max out the benefits, look at Europe & how they are all trying to get to the UK because they have the better benefits. Speaks volumes to me about what they are. The pond scum of the world

          • Anyone who hires and law breaking illegal should be incarcerated and have their business closed. Never reward a criminal, punishment is what they deserve.

          • Actually I was an employer her in S. Ca & when you advertise for workers the only ones that show up are illegals. When you need additional help there is no alternative but to hire some one that you know in your heart is illegal. I only hired ones that showed some kind of paper work that said they were here legally, I had no choice but to hire them when I knew they were illegal even though I knew their papers were forged I took copies & put them in their permanent files to cover my butt. I did not pay less than min wage & most of the “floor help” made $10.00 per hour after they had been on the job for a few months. Maybe I should have had some greed to take advantage of them but I just couldn’t do it

          • Sadly, that’s true. If we had to find a white teenager to mow our laws, we would have to conclude they’d gone extinct before one ever showed up to work. They’re too busy playing video games and smoking pot. Those from South Vietnam work like demons and charge an arm and a leg! $400 for 3 hours work by four workers, and the “Boss Man” collected the money and only doled out a minimal amount to those who did the work. I was furious!

          • And they say that is us Americans that take advantage of them, when in actuality it is their own people that take advantage of them the most

          • The “anchor baby” is a myth. You have been brainwashed.

            A family can be and often is removed from the U.S. even if they have a native born child, because they do not have lawful status in the country.

            Once a citizen child reaches 21, that child can return to North America and eventually sponsor their parents to legally immigrate to the country of citizenship.

          • Michael Dennewitz

            STFU TROLL BITCH!

          • On 12 Jul 15 Deputy Sheriff Huffer requested a warrant for Kirkland M. Dennewitz, age 19, 9645 State Route 821, Lower Salem, for domestic violence. Upset over trivial matters, Mr. Dennewitz jumped on top of his stepfather, Jimmy Persinger, age 31, and punched him multiple times in the face.

          • I can see that……………

          • Michael Dennewitz

            And exactly WTF is that supposed to tell the world, TROLL?? Sucker isn’t related to me or anyone in my family, TROLL!!!

        • And shoot anyone trying to invade America.

          • Would hope there would be Standing Orders…..shoot to kill ALL invaders, take no prisoners & test fire every automatic weapon facing South every 20 minutes.
            In spare time help build fence & assist in the deportation of ALL illegals.

          • You have it wired my friend.

      • You and which army?

        • .
          It would not take an army, Just some politicians with cajones
          .

          does that satisfy you or are you gonna continue your TROLL personal?
          .

          • Fact:

            The US has 88,633 miles of tidal shoreline.

            The South border is 1,954 miles

            The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.

          • .
            and you have a fat ass and a big mouth .
            .

          • As usual, facts are a problem for the far-right extremists.

          • .
            as touted by a liberal TROLL.
            .

          • Oh, yes, the Tea Party. They excel at right-wing lies and insults.

          • Calling you a troll is a compliment considering that you are a liberal socialist.

          • Right-wing lies and insults — piled higher and deeper.

            Anonminity allows insult without consequence. Isn’t it lovely.

          • .
            what part is a lie? that you are a fat assed liberal socialist, that you are a troll, that you make up your statistics, or that you hide behind anonymity to make your asinine assertions,
            .

          • AKLady
            You got to be an Illegal Alien or a kiss ass to illegals ; since you like Them so much why don`t you invite them into your home to live with you or adopt a few of those illegal kids .?????????
            Our Technology is the most advanced on the Planet ;
            we sent Astronauts to the moon ; Rovers to Mars and the most recent space travel of a small ship to visit Saturn . NOW you tell us we can`t Secure our Borders .??????? You should say : the present admin and the retards in congress don`t want to do so .

            AKLady , my diarrhea does not Stink as much as you Stink

          • Why:

            The US has 88,633 miles of tidal shoreline.

            The South border is 1,954 miles

            The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.

            Tourists are not going to like those huge fences at the beaches.

            You won’t much like paying the higher taxes — especially when those fences do nothing to stop illegal immigration.

          • Oh, and child those fences will not stop illegal immigration.

            The majority enter quite legally on employment visas.

            Employers want those lower pay employees.

            Hence, you are being taught to hate people from South of the Border.

            WAKE UP AND SEE REALITY.

          • Disgusted with the GOP

            …….and every dollar spent on every single inch to secure the border, as opposed to letting illegals in is worth it!!!! In fact I bet the US Citizens would buy a brick, just like CITIZENS bought bricks to other public projects, to make sure it gets done. If I could designate money on my tax return to go directly to this cause I would pay more than I am currently paying, because I will KNOW THE ACTUAL USE IS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OUR NATION’S FUTURE! I will take vacation time from work to go work on it !!! I will do whatever it takes to stop the invasion of our country! We could have a National Security Job Service that would have volunteers work to build it, totally volunteer, just as our military is today, and I bet you AKLady, there will be so many signup and show up to do this, you don’t even need to worry your lost liberal head about it ever again. So move on to your next mindless PC idea, we got this one covered.

          • 300 Million Americans would sign up and be there Present and Accounted for this Wall . You , AKLady , would be the ONLY ONE MISSING IN ACTION .

          • You can put up a 50ft high fence at the border — nothing will change.

            The majority of illegal immigrants enter this country legally — on employment visas.

            You need to find out which employers are bringing them in.

          • Yup! It’s a big job, alright, and we damned well better get started sealing it! If we cut all foreign aid to Islamic countries and to Mexico, we’d have enough to build the wall on the Southern border. If we start charging 30% tarif on incoming goods from countries screwing us on trade deals, that will bring in a bundle. If we only allow rich immigrants instead of the piss-poorest peasants Obama can find around the world, we’ll be much better off, too!

          • Your hate, bigotry and lies are an embarrassment to America — all Americans.

    • The US has 88,633 miles of tidal shoreline.

      The South border is 1,954 miles

      The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.

      Just how do you propose the action you demand be enforced?

      • Your a Socialist/Communist… This is how the Russians do it…

        Pause this video at 25 seconds and check out how the Russian border patrol greets those who try to enter Russia illegally. I doubt those agents were carrying empty guns……

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySemHt07wSw

        • “Your a Socialist/Communist… ”

          What is your native language — it sure is not English..

          • OHHH, poor socialist doesn’t understand my poor English…. Or is it that you have to resort to deflections and being the English hall monitor because you can not refute my statement.

            I’ll correct it so you can understand it… But, you still will not refute my statement.

          • Your statement is baseless.

          • I was born in the USA, a pure Capitalist, in support of the Constitution.

            Try to stay on point. Trump will secure the border, he is the second politician that I believe has the guts to do so….

          • When he violates the US Constitution, he will be impeached.

          • 0bama has lied to the American people. Of that there is no question.

            That alone is an impeachable offense. It was for Nixon.

          • You’re right. Obama’s list of impeachable is like a long rap sheet.

          • to marlene ””’OH MY YOU GOT SO SO RIGHT,OBAMA’S RAP SHEET IS SO LONG YOU COULD PROBABLY CHOKE 20 OR 30 HORSES, MOST ALL OF IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL
            TRUMP2016

          • TRUMP 2016

          • There are currently over 100 ways in which Obama has violated the Constitution, and violated his oath of office, and failed to protect the American people, and failed to protect our national sovereignty, but nothing is done because Congress is afraid of being called racist!

          • Opinion, not legal fact.
            You cannot provide a single legally factual instance.

          • And AKLady’s “yu” suggests English is her second language. LOL

          • Say what you will but in Russia if you are a muslim, you cannot speak any other language but Russian. If you are a muslim, you can not get a job or housing. And of course, they are moving away from socialism, finding capitalism more to their liking, after so many years. Americans pushing socialism need to find another place to live as they continue on a PATH TO DESTROY AMERICA. They are also known as democrats in America.

          • Why do you lie?

            Islam is the second most widely professed religion in Russia.

          • Not according to a press release from Putin. That’s my source.

          • Putin lies, a known issue.

          • 0bama lies, a known issue as well. The left stream media covers 0bama’s lies, also a known issue.

          • No, you have been brainwashed into believing that.

            You cannot name one single valid lie — not one.

            Nothing in the ACA requires insurance companies to cancel policies.

            In fact they issue policy changes on a routine basis.

          • All these are proven lies. 0bama knew they were lies when he told them… PERIOD.

            If you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr. PERIOD.
            A family of four will save $2500/year.
            If you like your healthcare you can keep your healthcare.
            We were told there were no death panels, yet I have dealt with them personally.

            The entire story about Benghazi being a reaction to a video was a fabricated lie.

          • The only one lying here is you.
            Grow up, baby boy.

          • He didn’t get the liar of the year award, do you want to guess who did? I’ll give you a hint, his middle name is Hussein.

          • As usual, you twist facts.

            “Lie of the Year” not Liar of the Year. That was three years ago.

            Nothing in the ACA required Insurance Companies to cancel policies.

          • Politifact gave the award to Mitt Romney the year before.

          • I should have told you that we need to get this straight. First, you idiot, ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION.

          • Islam is the World’s second largest religion. You are insulting billions of people.

            Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all terrorists are Muslim.

            There are Catholic terrorists killing in Africa. There are Christian terrorists killing in the United States.

            What we need to get straight is that you are embarrassing America with your ignorance.

          • You would feel more comfortable in Iran or Iraq, so leave.

          • If you want to deny the 1st Amendment rights to people; you need to get out of my country.

            Freedom of religion is the law.

            Freedom of religion is what the Founders fought and died for.

          • I agree with everything you just said, with one exception. Islam is not a religion. Islam is a political manifestation passing as a religion by the uninitiated who haven’t the foggiest idea as to the true definition of religion unless you want to accept that a religion is just something you strongly belief in.

          • Islam existed long before the current “political” manifestations in the Middle East.

          • Don’t kid yourself! Within 10 years, 50% of Russia’s soldiers will be Muslim! How does the thought of having Muslim soldiers guarding nuclear facilities make you feel? Probably no better than thinking about the Iranians having nuclear weapons and threatening the world.

          • Guess what? Muslims already guard nuclear facilities. Even more shocking, we built those facilities for Iran.

      • have you ever seen one thing that americans couldnt do when they put their minds to it? think about that you spout some more of your crap

        • End bigotry?
          End discrimination?
          End pay differences between men and women?

          • Talk to Hillary about pay differences. She paid her ladies 20% less than the men for the same job. LOL!

          • AND THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE.

            Why do conservatives insist on lying on the Internet?

            Is it because their ideas suck and they have to invent a new reality?

          • Liberal Democratic Progressives would not admit to the TRUTH if it slapped them in the face !! They have an incurable mental condition !

          • better tell that to hillary SHE pays woman LESS than men

          • Why do you assume I have not already done that?

          • There will always be bigotry and discrimination. The left should stop their search for utopia and start thinking rationally. The pay difference has been refuted, you wear your victim status well but it’s not real.

          • The pay difference has not been refuted.

            There have been many excuses made, however, women in every state experience the pay gap.

            On average women now earn 75% of the wage paid to men — in nearly every occupation.

            The gap is worse for women of color. They are at 54% of male pay. Hispanic women are the hardest hit.

          • Maybe you should want better for that little girl you are holding.

      • If we can build something like the World Trade Center, a fence should not be a problem. If the government can find these illegals in order to give them a pass to stay in the country, they can find them to deport them.

        • Another one who is too young to remember the Berlin Wall …

          That which will keep people out also prevents Americans from leaving.

          The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.
          The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.
          The Canada–United States border is 5,525 miles.

          • Sweetheart, I’ll be 65 in a couple months, so I know. But the only thing I can figure from you is that you know so much about communism you long for it to be in the US. I guess you support the socialist Sanders for President. Of all the borders you mention, only one is causing a problem, Mexico. They are also the only country who does not cooperate with us. But with Obama, there is not much to cooperate with.

          • I am older than you are. I lived the “Cold War”.

            I have provided medical care to more “refugees” than you can possibly imagine.

            The majority of “illegals” in this country entered quite legally. They came in on work visas. They simply stayed when the visa expired.

            The focus on the impoverished entering at the Southern border is a smoke screen. It is propaganda.

            You are being brainwashed. Wake up to the truth.

          • I was in the Army when they stopped the Russians from arming Cuba with missles & I voted for Kennedy, that was the last time I voted for a democrap. So what has that got to do with anything? Age doesn’t make one smarter it just makes you older

          • AKLady , Hiding a lot of Garbage under that name .
            A Cuban refugee .
            A muslime
            Illegal alien

          • I was in Florida when the USSR armed Cuba with missals.

            I was shopping at the Homestead AFB Commissary, when a Cuba MIG landed without warning.

            Experience makes one smarter.

            Darling, you have been well brainwashed. Russia is only one country that was in the USSR.

          • 20 to 30 Million Illegals here . How many of These Illegals entered Legally .??? They simply stayed when the visa expired. ?????
            THat is a CRIME : Don`t you Know it . ????? I lived the “Cold War”.
            Which one .??? Russia , Germany , Cuba .????????????????????
            Translate , Please . “refugees” ??? Can you Explain ” refugees ” ????

          • YOU SKIPPED THE IMPORTANT PART —

            They came in on work visas.

            Your attention is being focused on the Southern Border.

            The real problem is coming in the front door.

            There has only been one Cold War. America vs. Communism/USSR.

          • “But the only thing I can figure from you is that you know so much about communism you long for it to be in the US.

            This is is the sign of severe mental instability.

          • The Berlin wall wasn’t built to keep people out it was built to keep people in, that is the difference since you don’t seem to understand that concept, we want to keep illegal aliens out. America has freedoms still that allows just about anyone to leave or their own free will

      • CENSUS DEPARTMENT: Anchor Baby Delivered Every 93 Seconds

        • LOL.

          You are being lied to.

          Current U.S. federal law prevents anyone under the age of 21 from being able to petition for their non-citizen parent to be lawfully admitted into the United States for permanent residence

          “Family-based Immigrant Visas”. U.S. Department of State. U.S. citizens must be age 21 or older to file petitions for siblings or parents.
          .

          • But Obama isn’t enforcing any of those laws, and neither is the U.S. Department of State! All rules are flagrantly being ignored to flood in as many illegals before the 2016 election, to assure the Democrats remain in power, to save Obamacare, to undermine 2nd Amendment rights, to assure the TTP Trade Agreements provisions go into effect, etc.!

          • More lies.

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          • Oh, and by the way, the ACA has actually become quite popular. It has saved many lives.

          • No it hasn’t, it’s become more unpopular when people finally found out what it was about. The ACA’ architect Jonathan Gruber has videos on YouTube. He said we will need the help of the low information voter is order to pass this bill, he obviously was talking about the democrat party since no republicans voted for the bill.

          • You need to find a more reliable information source — one that is politically neutral.

            Last April, the country was split 43% for, 42% against. In July, those number have changed 53% for, 41% against.

            The Affordable Care Act is not what’s wrong with health care. Greed is.

            If you check the Census data, you will find that it is the “red: states which have the highest school dropout rates.

          • Gallup is reliable. The only ones who like it are the subsidized and the pre-existing condition crowd. Concerning pre-existing conditions, it’s one of the reasons that healthcare costs have gone up $2500-$3000 a year. Insurance is gambling, you gamble that you will get sick, the insurance company gambles that you won’t get sick. When you take the gambling aspect out for insurance companies, costs go up. Maybe those with pre-existing conditions should have been more responsible and bough a plan before their condition.

            I know two people who went to the exchange, the lawyer next door and my cousin the electrician. They pay $450 dollars a month with $6000 copays and deductibles before the insurance even kicks in, not a good deal. I’m glad that my costs have helped your subsidized costs.

            We’re going to play blue state-red state? 33% of all the welfare cases in the country belong to California, and they’re 17 billion in debt. The businesses and citizens of California are moving to the red states of Arizona and Texas to escape progtard policies. Take your false census and stick it.

          • You assume you know so much. That child you are holding is a “preexisting condition”. That is correct — normal pregnancy and delivery is a “preexisting” condition under health insurance.
            Public assistance is a state and federal partnership.

        • Why do conservatives think there flapping gums have meaning?

          It’s not like you have a history of being truthful

        • 400,000 per year. 60,000 from Asian, mostly from China. Write your elected representatives in Congress weekly and demand that the Anchor Baby Racket be shut down or your elected representatives will be voted out of office ASAP!

      • Our Border Patrol could work the immediate border area, instead of being moved 50 miles from the southern border… Just saying…

    • GOOO Donald Trump. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE besides Mitt Romney who would tell it like it is. No political correctness. SCREW that. RID OUR country of ALL ILLEGALS. Hunt them down and prosecute them ALL. Then apply what ever law they deserve to have put on them. Send them back to where they came from.

      • The problem with Romney was he didn’t have it in himself to tell it like it is more like a wimp than Mr. Trump will ever be & yes GO DONALD he sure has my vote I think he really can make America great once again & he is what is needed now after 8 years of the turd that is the current occupier of the WH & he sucks big time & I don’t mean that just as a though I never thought I would live to see a queer in the white house but we now have 2 of them & one is a tranny. I also think both are lefty plants after they tried to amend the constitution to allow for the birthright citizenship to be overturned. Another leftwing plot to bring down the greatest country that has ever been on this planet

        • I’ll tell you about Romney. He was the best candidate by far. He is honest and knows how to run a business. He was, as you say, not forward enough when it came to saying it like it is. Mexico and it’s people are a thorn is the side of AMERICA. PERIOD. WE have to control the ILLEGALS coming here. If it takes shooting them as they cross into the country ILLEGALLY, DO IT. WE owe them NOTHING. I, for one am very tired of ALL of it. Isis, cartel and ILLEGALS. Oh, and stupid, IGNORANT PARASITE NEGRO PUNK ASS THUGS. As far as I am concerned do what you have to in an effort to CONTROL them all. ANYTHING that works is fine with me. These Assholes are infringing on OUR RIGHTS. So, SCREW them ALL.

    • StupidConservativeValues

      You’re licking his behind?

      • You have trouble with English???

        Or just a sick SOB?

        • StupidConservativeValues

          I’m a sick SOB…but that’s okay, your tax dollars are making me better via ObammyCare! Thanks brother!
          Your values are:

          1. We
          demand the union of all in the United States on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all conservative citizens.

          2. We demand the United States citizens have rights equal to those of other nations; and that all previous Treaties made by the Democrat Party shall be repealed.

          3. Only those who are our fellow conservative countrymen may become citizens. Only those who have United States blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no aliens can be United States citizens.

          4. The 14th amendment shall be repealed and those who are not citizens must not reside in the United States and will be returned to their countries of origin forthwith.

          5. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the United States shall belong only to conservative citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the federal government, state governments, or the municipalities, shall be held by anyone who is not a conservative citizen.

          6. We demand the United States shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently Christian life and the ability to earn an honest livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) will be expelled from the United States.

          7. Any further immigration of non-United States citizens will be prevented. We demand that all non-United States citizens who have entered our country since January 21, 2017, shall be compelled to leave the United States immediately; forcefully and forthwith.

          8. All United States citizens of conservative Christian persuasion must possess equal rights and duties.

          9. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the conservative Christian community.

          Therefore we demand:

          10. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

          11. Since every war imposes on the people sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as corporate profit.

          12. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound conservative middle-class.

          13. We demand political reform in accordance with national requirements, and the enactment of laws to expropriate liberals without compensation in any way for the common conservative cause.

          14. We demand ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the United States. Traitors (i.e. liberals) are to be punished regardless of creed or race.

          15. We demand that all former liberal laws be replaced by United States common sense conservative laws.

          16. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious United States citizen to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of Conservative Leadership, the United States government must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire conservative cultural system of the citizenry. Conservative curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life and will be taught in schools from the outset.

          17. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation and robust maintenance of a National Militia comprised of conservative principles in accordance with the Second Amendment and the teachings of the Christian Bible.

          18. We demand that there be legalcampaign against those who propagate deliberate political liberal lies and disseminate them through all liberal mainstream media conduits.

          In orderto make possible the creation of a unified National Conservative Press, we demand:

          (a) All editors, writers and their assistants on newspapers, websites and media outlets be published in the American language and shall be by conservative United States citizens without exception

          (b) Non-United States newspapers, websites and media outlets shall only be published with the express permission of the Conservative Party. They will not be published in any foreign language.

          (c) All financial interests in any way adversely affecting conservative United States newspapers, websites and media outlets shall be forbidden, and we demand the punishment for transgression of this law be the
          immediate suppression and/or elimination of the said liberal media conduits and the expulsion of any non-United States citizens and/or liberal United States citizens from its borders.

          19. We demand freedom for The Christian Faith in the United States, and any liberal influences that endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the United States citizenry will be extinguished.

          20. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong Christian Church of the United States of America, and the unconditional authority by the political conservative federal and state governments to uphold
          all Christian institutions.

          The leaders of the Conservative Party shall promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.

    • Secondly, our borders are just about impossible to close. We haven’t made even a dent in the drug traffic. There are thousands of small marinas where a boat could dislodge illegal immigrants if the Mexican border were closed. We can’t wall off the entire coastline. Trump and everyone will talk forever about illegal immigrants because that is what you want them to do. But American businesses (who own the Republican Party) would suffer mightily if there were no illegal workers, so Congress and candidates will talk and talk and talk as much as you want.

      • BS, the borders could be closed, the flow of illegals would be drawn down to a trickle.

        America was a nation of laws… We were far better off when we held people accountable for their actions, including illegals crossing the border…

        Your thinking is stinking…. You are defeated already.

        • The simple way to eliminate illegal immigrants is to strongly punish the people that invite them in. American businesses say “If you can sneak in, I’ll give you a job”. We never attack the businesses. If they didn’t offer the jobs, the immigration problem would go away. But these businesses want the workers and buy politicians, so these politicians will talk and talk and talk, but NEVER attack the businesses that create the problem.

          • You better find a way to punish 0bama then.. He is the one that invited them in, as he is the one that promised amnesty.

            If you can sneak in, I’ll give you citizenship, free education, access to America’s health care, Social security, and the shot at the American dream, is a much greater lure than a job…

            I’m with you on punishing the ones that invite them in…..

          • Obama is NOT the one that invited them in. He is offering amnesty to the ones that business ALREADY INVITED IN. YES, punish those businesses.
            No, the lure of jobs is what these came for. You apparently have a misguided view of that.

          • Wrong, businesses did not invite them in…. The promise of wealth and fortune enticed them to cross the borders. The promise of the American dream, freedom and a better life, is what enticed them. Not businesses…

            I think you want to believe this because you do not want to think poorly of 0bama or the illegals and you feel that it is easier to vilify businesses than your party.

            The fact that our Government has made it easier to cross the border illegally easier than crossing legally enticed the lazy to break the law.

            0bama sweetened the deal by promising them amnesty once they got across the border. 0bama has no way of telling when they crossed the border illegally, the offer went out to all of them…

            That is why illegal crossings increase every time an amnesty offer is considered.

            I think you are correct, the businesses need to be punished as well, but closing the border is the first step…

  3. This should be for everyone not just Mexicans. Shit those who took down our very own buildings with our own planes were not from Mexico. The sad part is we allow them to come and get educated here just so they can go back home and plan to kill Americans. If your going to close to one griup, close it for all groups.

  4. How foolish are we to think Obama wants to save money and make this country great again. That would never happen with that idiot.

    • im still scratching my head wondering how people voted a guy in who never had a job in his life,was given everything on a silver platter,now is given the job, his first ever job, running/ruining, u pick, the greatest country on the planet. f**king ridiculous !

      • Will I have tried to find people that voted for him and I don’t find any. Sort of strange or maybe they are ashamed that they did vote for him. I sure would be.

        • i hear u bob, they all somehow disappeared..libs never will admit the truth anyway , like michael savage says; “Liberalism is a Mental disorder for which there is no cure”

          • I don’t think there is a cure for stupidity. We can only pray that this will go away soon or we will never bounce back. I will always believe George Soros is playing a big part in this.

      • Easy blacks for the government dole along with Mexicans, woman with their emotional voting but the only one’s I can’t explain is the college grads that can’t find a job still voted for him a second time, that confuses me. Guess the only thing I can say is we are graduating idiots.

        • WRONG.
          YOUR IGNORANCE, BIGOTRY AND HATE ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO AMERICA.

          • Only if the truth is all those things you say. What part of my statements are not true.

          • The entire statement.

            ‘We the People’ do not elect a President. Never have.

            Cannot do so without the Constitution being amended.

            These men did not receive the popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, and George W. Bush

          • The entire statement really. We the people do elect a president it is just a slanted way you are looking at it. The popular vote decides the elector vote and without people voting there would be no one elected. But then again that has nothing to do with my original statement so as usual you are wandering again.

          • The popular vote does not “decide” the Electoral College vote.

          • So in your opinion they just pull their decision out of thin air

          • That is the Electoral College’s right under the US Constitution.

            George W Bush was elected twice — neither time did he have the popular vote.

            These Presidents also did not receive the popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B. Hayes, and Benjamin Harrison

          • You rant on with the same old BS so what if they didn’t win the popular vote the electoral vote is based on the popular vote. To me that isn’t much of an issue, what is, is the fact just a few states can control the rest of the country, now that is an issue. The reason for electoral voting in the first place is so each state votes the way the popular vote in that state is saying who to vote for otherwise the state vote wouldn’t count as the larger states would just make the smaller states vote irrelevant.

          • No, Glenn, the Electoral College vote is not based on the popular vote.
            Members of the EC are not required to vote for the candidates ‘We the People’ voted for.
            Think about it for awhile, before running your mouth.

          • In all my 75 years never seen it done any other way

          • Well, apparently you were sleeping.

            In 2000 Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George Bush.

          • So what part of the system don’t you understand. Each state voted per popular vote their elector vote so that is what happened. It is the state popular vote that tells the state who to vote the electoral vote for

          • Suggest you educate yourself.

            You understanding is not correct.

            The only one not understanding here is YOU.

            The Electoral College has a web site, why don’t you begin there.

          • Why can’t you get it thru your thick skull that each state has so many electoral votes and if you barely win in several states with the popular vote and the other side wins big in a state with heavy electoral votes plus popular votes yes you can win the popular but not the electoral vote, it really is very simple.

          • Right-wing standard, ignorance and insults. Maybe this will reach across your mental challenge.

            There has been Faithless Electors in each of the following elections: 1948, 1956, 1960, 1968, 1976, and 1988.

            A blank ballot was cast in 2000. The District of Columbia and 26 states “bind” their electors to vote for their promised candidate, via a number of methods including oaths and fines.

          • The electoral college is chosen equally between democrats and republicans so you are telling me the democrats favored the republicans, sure and I have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona.

          • Read your state’s laws. I don’t do ocean front property.

        • College grads are smarter than conservatives.

          Shouldn’t be a mystery to anyone with the brain.

          I guess that speaks to your brain, or lack thereof.

          Millennial’s are going to do even greater damage to the conservatives in the next election.

          They are not happy with conservatives denying science and climate change.

          • So only liberals go to college as you say, guess higher education totally failed them. Doubt many say there isn’t climate change just the reason for it. Climate has changed many times long before man was on this earth. Probably the biggest reason for climate change is the one thing everyone refuses to address and that is over population.

          • “So only liberals go to college as you say”

            Gosh Glenn, do you have reading comprehension issues as well as being conservative?
            Double whammy.

            “Probably the biggest reason for climate change is the one thing everyone refuses to address and that is over population.”

            So let me get this straight Glenn,
            You are against climate science that says mankind is the cause, and then post that statement, saying mankind is the cause.

            So that must be a quadruple whammy on your stupidity.

            Nothing like proving your own self wrong to impress the liberals with your intellect.

          • You need reading comprehension as you are the one that said college grads are smarter then conservatives. So since everyone is put in either liberal or conservative your statement says only liberals go to college. Never said mankind didn’t effect the climate but a lot of scientist are trying to totally blame man and that is far from factual. I said over population and there is a difference between the two. The way you state things one alcohol drink would make you just a drunk as having 10, there is a big difference. You show me where I posted anything stating I am against climate science, get real or do you just like flapping your lips?

          • Glenn tap dances furiously after being smacked down for severe silliness.

          • Silliness such as?

      • People did not vote Obama in — the Electoral College did, twice.

      • “was given everything on a silver platter”

        The silly conservative must mean the silver platter like Ben Carson got?

        Are you really this low information?
        Or just a disingenuous human?

    • I never thought about Obama. I knew we were in trouble when people were running around crying and calling him their “Messiah”, more like the anti-Christ with all the damage he has done to America and the world. I only hope we can make it to January 2017.

      • That’s going to be a hard thing to do. He needs to be gone before then.

      • Oh, more disingenuous crap from the conservative to afraid to debate.

        ” I knew we were in trouble when people were running around crying and calling him their “Messiah””

        See fool, THAT never happened.

        Only in right wing crazy land as anyone talked about Obama being the Messiah.

        If you think you saw people running around crying and calling them the Messiah, you need to check into the nearest mental facility for complete evaluation.

        And then you’re going off on the “damage to America” crap the conservatives like to vomit, except they can never provide ANY EXAMPLES?

        Is it because you are ignorant human beings or just lying?

        • Listen A**hole you don’t know me and I’m not lying. Google it. Jamie Foxx called him “Barack OBama our Messiah” after his election, as well as Oprah Winfrey. So, quit calling people names because you can’t refute their facts. You can’t even have a normal conversation, get your HEAD out of your ASS, and that is al I have to say to you.

          • The silly conservative clearly said you SAW PEOPLE RUNNING around CRYING and calling Obama the Messiah.

            Then your example turns out to be two entertainers doing their shtick.

            Where all the masses crying for the Messiah that that you said you saw?

            Are you lying again?

            You continuing rant about the damage to America,
            you never provide ANY EXAMPLES.

            Because you’re vacant?
            Ignorant?
            A lying piece of shit?

    • Time to show the Bob’s moron
      It seems Bob, that the World Bank and all the powerbrokers at the conference, seem to think that the American economy is the only bright spot in the global economy.

      That must be due to the find stewardship of the Democrats.

      “U.S. Economy ‘Lone Bright Spot,’ as Global Outlook Getting ‘Worse’”
      “The World Bank is telling us… the U.S. economy is the
      only bright spot for global growth”

      http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2015/01/14/us-economy-lone-bright-spot-as-global-outlook-getting-worse/

      So this would be the part where Bob the ignorant conservative, tells me that Fox News carries water for Obama

      • I hope you realize the everyone but one person thinks you are a baboon but I tell them not to insult animals and just call you a bafoon. Get lost Obama lover. We have no use for you or for him.

        • The buffoon would be Bob who can’t refute my post while pretending to be superior.

          • You are one sick son of a bitch. I don’t have to pretend. In fact that thought never crossed my mind but now it does nigger.

          • It is evident to anyone reading this thread, Bob,
            that the liberal has provided a conservative information source, that proves Bob does know his bottom (ass) from a hole in the ground

          • Of course I know what it looks like. It looks more and more like your face idiot.

          • And when cornered by his complete lack of knowledge, the conservative lashes out with his best kindergarten level comeback

  5. With the money we can save by eliminating benefits for illegals, we can easily pay to build a wall and so many other things too.

    • And if they would only enforce e verify and the under the counter wages that illegals take in, plus all the freebies that they are getting … Then they could use a small portion of that money to send the illegals home where they belong. Then close the border except to send them one way Back to their homeland…..

      • We have been fooled twice by our amnesty and now they want it a third time. Are we really that dumb??

      • CITIZENSHIP and/or LEGAL ALIEN STATUS is required for those so-called “freebeis”.

        • If you believe that, and are that gullible, I have some oceanfront property in West Virginia I would like to sell you.

          • Stop lying.

            Get of your duff and actually look up the eligibility requirements.

          • I wonder why you never try and prove anything?

            You just a bag of hot air?
            are you incapable of posting a link?

          • Read the law, educate yourself.

          • Exactly who in this administration obeys the law. And even if they tried, there are those illegals who will use false names to get what they want. Only the gullible believe the law is being obeyed or enforced.

          • Are you serious?

            Use a false name and see what you can get?

            You are way out in space somewhere.

      • I would oppose that. Everytime the USA cracks on down on immigrants Brazil will do the same. I make pretty good money teaching English that will negatively affect me. Plus I have a lot of Brazilian, Iranian, and Mexican friends so I would rather let them stay. I believe a person should be able to live wherever they want as long as they do not have infectious diseases or a criminal record.

        • you are reflecting the very idea that is causing the illegal problem. you want them to keep coming so that you can make a lot of money teaching them english. money and greed, just about the same thing. whether its a giant corporation or a greedy little man like you, all that counts is the money. never mind that the country is being destroyed by their very presence sucking the country dry with all the freebies given to them, while at the same time letting americans suffer. if you want to make a lot of money teaching english, go to a foreign country. i am sure they will pay you well. as an example, china has more english speaking personnel than the usa. so somebody had to teach them.

          • Look up the eligibility requirements.

            Stop repeating lies.

            Citizenship and/or legal status is required to obtain public assistance
            benefits.

          • Well aklady, most states ignore those regs. There are many loopholes including special programs set up so that they can get their sticky little fingers into the bankroll of a bankrupt nation.

          • Well, Mindy, those are state laws, not federal laws. Maybe you should better inform yourself.

          • You’re right, Mindy. The states err in not nullifying federal laws that are either unconstitutional or unpopular.

          • You’re right. The states err in not nullifying federal laws that are either unconstitutional or unpopular.

          • Most states?
            So including the 37 GOP -controlled states.

            I would have to ask why conservative controlled states would be breaking the law?

            I thought conservatives were all about the rule of law

          • You’re right about Michael. It does bother us to see so may misguided and uninformed opportunists not only supporting amnesty, but teaching in a school, anywhere and on any subject.

          • 1. No one should be allowed to immigrate to the U.S. if they don’t already speak English.

            2. No foreign family should be able to immigrate to the U.S. if they have more than 2 children.

            3. No foreigners should be allowed to immigrate to the U.S. if they won’t be self sufficient.

            4. No family-reunification immigration should be allowed for anyone beyond parents and minor-age children. No more aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc. It’s crap, and never should have been allowed. Edward Kennedy is responsible for that travesty, and his name should be smeared for what he’s done to this once-great country!

            5. All Muslim immigration to U.S. should be permanently stopped, and population growth by those already here should be severely curtailed to prevent them reaching 10% of the population, which becomes the point when they take over a country completely!

          • exactly, couldnt have said it better myself. most of what you said is actually in the immigration laws to enter this country already.

        • Anybody that crosses the border illegally is a criminal and only are void of a record because of the attempts of those wishing to exploit them.

          • Wrong.

            Innocent until proven guilty is a court of competent jurisdiction is the law in America.

          • They are criminals as soon as they step over our borders, by US law.

          • The Bill of Rights applies to everyone, even illegal immigrants.

          • It shouldn’t! The fact our politicians think it does is why our ship of state is sinking!

          • Our Constitution applies to everyone within our borders. The Bill of Rights is part of the U.S. Constitution.

            If you do not like our laws, move somewhere you like better — today, if possible.

          • You’re right, again, and obama is a criminal for aiding, abetting and harboring them, under Title 18, USC 1324

          • No, they are covered by the US Constitution the minute they cross that border.

          • Since Islamic terrorists are coming across the border daily, mascarading as Mexicans, with aka Mexican names, crossing the border illegally needs to be made a felony. That way, every illegal caught will have a felony record, will never be able to register to vote illegally, and will never be able to re-enter the United States a second time without serving time!

        • You are a selfish idiot! Let them come in cause I’m making money?! You sell your soul to the devil too? If they come here LEGALLY, they will still need to learn English so shut up!! I think a person should be able to live where they want also, but it should be legal, and that person should CONTIBUTE to that area in which they live, NOT be there illegally, and cause economic strife or harm to that area!

        • That is a selfish reason for supporting the death and suffering they bring to this nation. The are criminals, they have proven that. They also are contributing to the downfall of this nation. Your personal gain is not worth the destruction of an entire nation.

          • Another brainwash victim.

            The majority of “illegals” enter this country quite legally.

            They are brought in on employment visas sponsored by corporations.

            They are highly educated and experienced. The majority work in technical and scientific fields.

            As long as your focus can be kept on the poor slobs crossing the border, Americans will not have those jobs..

          • You’re right. A great many of them do work in technical and scientific fields. Great numbers of them have replaced Americans who previously held those jobs, and those previous employees were often forced to train their foreign replacements, who were going to be paid lower salaries. For that sin against American workers, those employers should be driven out of business via consumer boycotts until the B.S. stops! That includes Disney!

          • That will never happen.
            Why? The American motto is now: ‘I got mine, you get yours if you can.’

            That motto has so infused American life, that our major cities are becoming Kolkatas of the West.

            America is the only modern, industrialized nation which allows people to die — simply because they do not have the money to buy health care.

            Many parts of America have infant & maternal death rates higher than third-world nations.

          • That’s true, but thanks to Obama, we now have a policy in place under Obamacare that denies care to those over 65 even though those often generational seniors worked for a lifetime, and paid into Medicare, to have healthcare in their retired years! Compare that to the tens of millions of Third World immigrants who haven’t worked here and get healthcare provided at public hospitals for “free” that American taxpayers have to pay for, and have to wait in hospital waiting rooms for hours to get care while illegals are treated ahead of them! Furthermore, 800 Billion was stolen from Medicare to pay for Medicaid under Obamacare, even though it was those on Medicare who had worked for a lifetime, while a large percentage of those on Medicaide had been on public assistance for an entire lifetime! Which group is more deserving of attention? 1) Veterans, 2) Senior Citizens, 3) Working U.S. citizens, 4) Working legal immigrants, 5) non-working U.S. citizens, 6) working illegal immigrants, 7) non-working illegal immigrants. In that order! But who is getting screwed instead? 1) Veterans, 2) Senior Citizens, 3) Working U.S. Citizens. Are things backwards or what?

          • You are lying.

            Why do you think it is acceptable to lie?

          • Statistically, THAT IS A LIE Mindy.

            Legal people commit a huge amount of crimes compared to illegals.
            And statistically by their percentage of the population, they commit less crimes.

            STOP LYING ON THE INTERNET.

            “Foreign-born individuals exhibit remarkably low levels of involvement in crime across their life course.” (Bianca Bersani, University of Massachusetts, 2014. Published in Justice Quarterly.)

            Citing Bersani’s work, Pew Research created this graph, showing crime rates among the immigrant community.

            “The crime rate among first-generation immigrants — those who came to
            this country from somewhere else — is significantly lower than the
            overall crime rate and that of the second generation,” they write.

            Since undocumented immigrants are more than a quarter of the immigrant population,
            it’s nearly impossible that the overall-immigrant crime rate could be
            so much lower if the undocumented-immigrant crime rate were
            significantly higher.

            — “There’s essentially no correlation between immigrants and violent crime.” (Jörg Spenkuch, Northwestern University, 2014. Published by the university.) He did find a small correlation between immigration and property crime, but only a slight one.

            — “[I]mmigrants are underrepresented in California prisons compared to their representation in the overall population. In fact, U.S.-born adult men are incarcerated at a rate over two-and-a-half times greater than that of foreign-born men.” (Public Policy Institute of California, 2008.)


            “[D]ata from the census and a wide range of other empirical studies
            show that for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates
            among young men are lowest for immigrants, even those who are the least
            educated. This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans, who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.” (Ruben Rumbaut, University of California, 2008. Published by the Police Foundation.)

            — “Analyses of data collected from four Southwest states and the U.S. Census show that the
            perceived size of the undocumented immigrant population, more so than
            the actual size of the immigrant population and economic conditions, is
            positively associated with perceptions of undocumented immigrants as a
            criminal threat.” (Xia Wang, Arizona State University, 2014. Published in Criminology.)

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

            YOU are the problem in America!

            You and your lies.

            Maybe you could post a link and prove that you’re not a lying POS.
            Somehow I am doubting that’s going to happen.

        • That’s YOUR mistake. So glad our constitution was built on YOUR beliefs.

    • Have you ever bothered to actually look at what is required to be eligible for benefits?

      You will find one requirement in almost all of them: CITIZENSHIP and.or LEGAL ALIAN STATUS.

    • Cut the foreign aid to country’s(especially to Iran, HAMAS & Muslim Brotherhood) that are our enemy’s and that alone will build the wall and repair SS, VA, etc…..by the way; tie the purse strings to Obama, the way he wants to destroy America and the Congress just lets him get away with spending.
      Will the people of America ever wake the hell up and stop voting for Senators that just want the power& $.
      Modest increase in enforcement (such as E-verify or visa tracking)
      would cause significant attrition in the illegal population, sending
      millions of illegals home on their own at no cost to the U.S. taxpayer,”
      says Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies.

      Even Fox News has been caught trumpeting this myth about how expensive Trump’s immigration
      plan would be. None of them seem to take into account how much our current lackadaisical approach to illegal immigration is costing the country. According to the Federation for American Immigration Reform,
      illegal immigrants are costing U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion every year.

      “Unlawful immigrants(Illegals) on average, are always tax consumers, they never once generate a ‘fiscal surplus’ that can be used to pay for government benefits elsewhere in society,” said Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation.

      Why would Republicans support a loose immigration policy that allows illegals a path to citizenship? Because they are tied to corporate interests who exploit Hispanic workers for their own profits, of course.
      Establishment Republicans and Democrats are fighting for the same thingfor different reasons. And none of those reasons have anything to do with what’s best for American citizens. – See more at: https://patriotnewsdaily.com/strong-immigration-policy-would-save-america-billions/#sthash.1X0r2aus.dpuf

      • People need to not only stop voting for these awful senators, but should also to NOT vote for candidates who are members of congress.

        • Agreed, the people have to look at who they are voting for and their accomplishments.
          Vote for the ones that are doing something besides sitting on their behinds,

        • We need to vote out Representative Guiteirrez. He’s the very worst of the worst!

          • I agree. He has no sympathy for the innocent victims of violent criminal illegal immigrant invaders. In fact, he is so pro-amnesty and pro-sanctuary cities that I need to check him further to see if he’s naturalized – just in case he decides to run for the presidency. We already have 3 or 4 ineligibles campaigning right now. None of them are on my list.

      • No one who enters the U.S. illegally, or overstays their visa, should EVER be granted a path to citizenship, and should NEVER be allowed to vote in our elections, thereby stealing elections for the Democrats, because virtually all immigrants vote for Democrats in exchange for the “freebies.” It’s a quid pro quo this nation must not tolerate any longer, nor allow to continue!

        • I’m in total agreement. We already have Immigration Laws; however they NOT enforced, especially by Obama and his cabinet/followers.
          WAKE UP TO SOCIALIST AMERIKA.

    • Cost of Katrina Hurricane – 150 billion
      Cost of illegal immigrants per year in U.S. – 100 billion

  6. Threaten Mexico with ending NAFTA, they will build a wall, with Mexican labor at a dramatic savings! Without NAFTA, the Mexican economy collapses as a million Mexicans suddenly have to go back to farming.

    • NAFTA has to go, it has done nothing for Americans except take their jobs and help to destroy our Country. Why is it called free trade, when the only ones who are getting to sell anything free is foreign Countries, not American products. Trump is right, we have politicians who have too much to gain from lobbyists and foreign governments and they sell out the American people.

      • “NAFTA has to go”
        So name one conservative proposing to do that?

        You can pretend this is part of the debate you chickened out on.

    • Bernie Sanders supports getting rid of NAFTA.
      The only candidate TALKING ABOUT THAT

  7. Michael Dennewitz

    I just wish they’d stop calling the sumbitch the “president of the United States!” He’s the HTNIC, an illegal himself and was NEVER voted in..

    • Right! He is NOT the legal president and NEVER has been!
      The POS should NEVER have been allowed into this country!
      If our SORRY Congress had a backbone he would have been
      gone long ago!

      • I think Congress has either been bought off or threatened by, possibly, the Muslim Brotherhood or Obama himself in their name, who’ve been loitering around the WH for So Long. They, in all rights, should Never have been allowed to enter Our House! I’m surprised they haven’t renamed the White House to the Black Mosque by now.

        • Sandy: I suspect they have all been bought! It was posted
          soon after the trade deal finally went through that Boehner
          and McConnell received millions for getting it passed! Our
          government is corrupt! Our leaders have put money before
          country! What a terrible shame for the best country on earth! I wish we could replaced them all!

          • Payola runs this country! The people be damned. This “All about me” attitude with the politicians, Must be stopped! Case closed, unless we somehow join together and fight back! The change will Have to come from the outsiders or DC will Never change, only get worse. When they are sworn into office, they take a vow to uphold the laws of the Constitution. Maybe we should start taking the breaking of those vows much more seriously; enormous fines, jail time, etc.

          • Child, they make the laws.

          • ” I think lying should be a crime.”

            Me too.

            Most of you would be in jail by now.

          • “Payola runs this country!”
            Something true for change Sandy.

            Except you support the party that is bought and paid for.

            The Koch brothers have openly said they’re going to spend $1 billion to influence election.

            Ted Cruz as raise $37 million. 35 million of that FROM THREE PEOPLE.

            Meanwhile you conservatives pretend HE is for the people.

            You’re really good at turning a blind eye.

            My man Bernie, has accepted no large donations from any corporate source or individual, and has over 250,000 individual donors, and over 1.5 million volunteers.

            You want to candidate of the people, you’re going to have to switch sides

          • If it wasn’t for fixed elections, we could. Voter ID would be a Big deterrent to this. Trump and others need to start pushing Hard for this before the election.

          • most states have voter ID silly con.
            the ones that don’t are already so liberal, cons have no chance EVER.
            Ca, Or

          • Silly con … the voter does not elect the President.

          • By now you should know I’m a liberal

          • Actually, I think you are who you are. Labels limit and control people.

          • ok then

          • Fixed elections?
            Who fixes them and how?

          • “It was posted
            soon after the trade deal finally went through that Boehner
            and McConnell received millions for getting it passed”

            that’s right.
            and who gave it to them?

            the lobbyists that WANTED TPP PASSED
            Duh.

            and THIS would be the ONLY time they have done ANYTHING Obama wanted done.
            (why Obama wanted it is beyond me)

          • You elect those representatives.

            Maybe you should be more careful of who your elect.

        • “I think Congress has either been bought off or threatened by, possibly, the Muslim Brotherhood or Obama himself in their name”

          Laugh out loud stupid.

          do you silly humans repeat this shit in pubic?
          you must be the grandma that the family ignores.
          “Don’t mind granny, she’s a right wing nutjob”

          can granny point to any evidence?

          NOPE.
          is that the sign of a “critical thinker”
          NOPE

          • The ignorance that gets posted on this site is very, very sad.

            Don’t schools teach government and civics anymore?

        • Freedom if religion is the law in America.

          Maybe you should get that through your head.

          There may be an actual Muslim in the office one of these days.

      • Exactly what makes you think he is not legal?

    • Totally agree, Michael! I’ve always said, he was “Placed” in office, not “Elected”. I think this is becoming more the norm than we realize. We need to watch closely for this in the next election.The GOP needs to Push Hard for Voter ID Now!

      • so when Bernie wins, who are you silly humans going to blame for THAT?

        Obama’s secret army?
        Maybe the forces of Soros.
        Perhaps the Muslims

        • and you dems thought that Mc Cain was too old.have you taken a good look at this SOCIALIST he looks older than my grandfather

          • We the people do not elect the President.

            Learn how your country works.

          • The fart was too old “in his head”, silly conservative

            McCain also had stupid policy ideas like
            “the economy is just fine,”(the next day the stock market imploded)
            “bomb bomb Iran”

            AND the biggest nail in McCain’s coffin, Sarah Palin.

      • No President has ever been elected by the popular vote.

        None, not ever, not possible … the Constitution does not allow it.

    • He was voted in Only by people who had something to gain financially (Payola) or in other ways (citizenship, welfare, etc) by voting for him.

      • Presidents are not elected by you, or any other popular vote.

        The Electoral College elects the President.

        Honey child, you have just published your ignorance for the world to see.

    • We the People do not elect Presidents.

      The Electoral College elects Presidents.

      These Presidents did not receive the popular vote: John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, and George W. Bush
      (twice).

  8. Close the border, deport the criminal aliens.
    Republican party you are walking on the precipice and we have a pocket full of rocks

  9. We need to expose these traitors to the American people: big government, big business, and big banks. It will cheaper in the long run if we really start to deport all the illegals and end all benefits that they are receiving. We need to expose illegals for they are: leeches and no good. We need to expose the politicians for their corruption and crimes (treason) against the American people.

    • Clearly, Albert, you are the guy to do this.

    • Illegals are All Felons the minute they cross our border. They All come in here as Immediate Criminals. The fact is though, we must not forget, they are in actuality, obvious Invited Guests of our government; thus, DC doesn’t see them as law breakers, but bought and paid for Socialists of the future that can Easily be molded to their ways. This party Must go and the Republican party needs to be revamped as well! They’ve turned their back on the very country and the people they are supposed to be governing. Traitors All! No one asked the American people, who own this country, if they wanted this change. Obviously, we don’t and we need to Fight Back on this or all wind up living on the level of the illegals. Take a good look at them. They left their country because they didn’t want to live like this anymore. They came here and are getting more of the same and bringing us down to their level as well. Are we going to just sit back and take this, America? If American companies want to hire cheap labor from Mexico, let them move their companies there, that way we keep our jobs and they will create jobs over there.

  10. Building the “wall” is probably the least expensive part of Trump’s immigration reform program. But, it would pale in comparison to the cost of the bureaucracy it would take to investigate, track-down, apprehend/detain, house or otherwise provide the attendant legal services to mass deport eleven-to-thirty million illegal immigrants. I wish it were not so, but it is.

    • If we had E-Verify and give employers 90 days to get rid of illegals. The cost would not be that great. No welfare, no foodstamps, no free education and no free medical care for illegals. E-verify and no benefits would get what Romney was calling for….self deportation. The employers who do not abide by the law would then be responsible for paying to deport their illegals. That would solve many of the problems!

    • Michelle Minze-Bryant

      I think we should build a prison in Mexico to house all the illeagals for 10 years each, so they’ll be in there own country and punished for coming into the US. All the ones that go back, come back to the US. If they are detained in their own country, then it SHOULD be legal to do that. Build a HUGE prison on the border.

    • Form a militia of every credible American citizen making them de facto Immigration Agents, with authority to question any suspected illegal. Apprehend all that had no legal ID. Take them to a collection center where they could be hauled out of the country by the cheapest means available. If they are from the middle East load them onto LSTs, standing room only, take them off shore of any country in that area and dump them.

      • You are seriously suggesting dropping immigrants from the middle East into the ocean? Letting them drown?

        • We did manage to get troops ashore at Normandy and a few other places. Probably something that you never heard of.

          • and indeed, as you have probably heard, rather a large number of those drowned. You did not answer the question.

      • There’s only one problem here. The Federal courts have ruled that the U.S. Constitution applies to all people currently occupying the space within the boundaries of the U.S. That means illegals have rights just as legal citizens do. So, as much as we’d like to do it, we can’t just round up huge globs of illegals and take them anywhere. For every illegal swooped up, there’s going to be an ACLU lawyer squealing about violations of one’s civil rights. Virtually every one of the 11 million swooped up will have to be adjudicated before a sitting body of court-appointed legal beagles who will determine how and when any forced deportation will begin. Self-deportation is the far better method and that will occur when the U.S. strictly enforces all the laws we already have on the books.

    • We only have to do just two things and that is enforce the laws and go after businesses that hire the illegals and not just give them a slap on the hand, get the illegals off the government dole they will deport themselves as without jobs or the government dole there is no reason to be here. We don’t need a wall just do the other two. You can’t build a wall and think that will help as there are many ways over and under that wall, and what do you do with all the shore line we have, build a wall there also.

      • We don’t just build a cheap-ass wall and say, “Ok, that takes care of that.” That’s what democrats would do, go through the motions to make it look as if they really give a hoot. Trumpian Republicans would make it as impenetrable as possible and staff it with additional FBI agents and as many Border Control agent as needed. Additionally, drones and other surveillance technology would be operating 24-7. That would be the first step. Next we make E-Verify the law of the land where businesses that continue to employ illegals would incur a heavy fine or other penalties that would affect their business. Thirdly, we would need emergency legislation to make it against the law for the Federal government to dispense any welfare benefits to illegals in terms of housing, food stamps, EBT Cards, child care, free tuition, etc. Now that’s when the self-deportation really begins, when the flow of free stuff stops flowing.

        • Problem is as long as we have anchor babies the illegal mother doesn’t need to draw anything for herself but her now legal offspring are the one’s drawing. I would rather put the money into the rest of the program rather then build a fence. Look at how many tunnels they have found and you know there are a hell of a lot they haven’t found. Russia had a lot of border guards but what really kept the people in wasn’t that or the fence it was the land mines and other obstacles.

          • If we had REAL border security, the pregnant illegal would have been stopped and turned around prior to crossing the border into U.S. territory.

          • Probably but if we did away with the anchor babies that would solve that problem anyway

    • Cut off the jobs, freebies, welfare checks, free schooling for their kids, etc. Deny them what they came here for and they will self deport themselves. A few weeks with no job, no food, no money and their option will be to either die here or go home. Harsh, but severely necessary to save our country and preserve our culture, morals, safety and replace all the things we have lost because they’re here. Seeing that they don’t seem to want to assimilate or behave themselves, in some cases, with many Americans dying needlessly by their hands, they need to go home.

      • Well said and I couldn’t agree more. But, the fence must be built and border security provided to cut off the flow. One doesn’t replace his rugs until he first fixes the hole in the roof…

  11. $750k per ILLEGAL ALIEN. 11million times 750k is $8,250,000,000,000. If we use a more accurate figure od 35 million it is $$26,250,000,000,000.
    This is all coming out of the taxpayers pocket severely limiting what they can do and what the government can do. The national debt goes to zero, the dollar goes up and we have a solid stable country with the finest society in the world.
    Start deportations and call it Operation Wet Back for the southern removal and Operation Camel Lover for the ocean jumpers. If you do not have official papers , you are gone and so is your illegal alien kid

    • Haha those are amazingly accurate and hilarious operation names.

    • Can we have a little realism here? Have you seen any actual figures for actual benefits from the government received by illegal immigrants? the food stamps website (http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/snap-policy-non-citizen-eligibility) says very clearly: “A person must be a U.S. citizen or an eligible, lawfully-present non-citizen to qualify for SNAP benefits”. The same is true of all the other benefits you and others claim are being given to illegal immigrants (health care, unemployment benefits, housing assistance, “obamaphones” etc). If you don’t believe me, go along to any government office and ask for anything at all (e.g. a driver’s licence) and say, oh, I don’t have my social security number. See how far you get.

  12. Why would anyone expect an illegal alien to enforce immigration laws? Why does anyone observe illegal executive orders from a non citizen? Why is the 14th Amendment being abused on an estimate of every 93 seconds?. How many illegals does that allow in a year? Why are criminals that are in the country illegally being released to commit other crimes? Why are Islamics brought into the country freely and Christians denied? When you can answer that, maybe we can get to the source of the problem.

  13. enough is enough it’s time to clean up this great nation once and for all before is too late Obama should stay out of it and I don’t think Obama was born in the u.s

  14. Yes the leaders have a vested interest in illegals and it is cheep labor. They don’t want to pay. So they lie about the price to remove them. Fact its cheeper to remove them than to keep them and easy!!!!!

  15. we need Trump more than ever or its just the same old bullsh*t

  16. I agree. In the long run the cost of sending them back will be a drop in the bucket compared to what it costs to keep them here, and the bottom line is they are here ILLEGALLY.

  17. Republicans do NOT support loose borders nor do the overwhelming majority support a path to citizenship. I consider this statement to be a lie every time I see it. In fact, Democrats scream that Republicans are anti-Hispanic when Republicans even mention closed/monitored borders, no path to citizenship, deporting the illegal lawbreakers, or asking for ID in order to vote.

    • There are two types of republicans. There are the conservative republicans and the rinos. Jeb Bush OBoehner OMcConnell Lindsey Graham etc. are for open borders and amnesty. They profit from minority labor. When republican is used we have to figure about which group they are talking about.

  18. The GOP primary doesn’t matter, ALL of your votes have been nullified!
    clinton will be president

    thru massive voter fraud from asylees, refugees, visa recipients, States issuing driver’s licenses and ID cards to ILLEGALS, and
    SCOTUS’ decision that nobody needs to show proof-of-citizenship when registering to vote and when casting a vote, especially by mail in ballot, NOW DC agrees with this, thus
    clinton will be president

    democrats are giving illegals: jobs on citizen advisory panels, jobs to practice law, drivers’ licenses to register and vote, changes to the Oath of Allegiance so that illegals no longer promise to defend the US.

    illegals gave democrats: obama wins in 2008 and 2012, Franken thus obamacare (thus illegals will get free obamacare), over 49,000 fraudulent votes in CA in Nov 2012.

    • cons tell themselves fairy tales to help them deal with the fact they field STUPID candidates.

      they are full of Hot Air.
      evidence? not so much

      • liberal scum, like you
        love that iran will use nuclear weapons,
        while obama walks Jews to the oven doors,
        and while gays are thrown off rooftops,
        hate the term “anchor baby”, but love to sell LIVE aborted anchor babies,
        love the destruction and “executive privilege” of clinton’s emails that support clinton’s/obama’s terrorist connections,
        love that only black lives matter,

        and love lying about illegals voting.

    • I’m beginning to think people living in other countries, especially political figures, are somehow voting in our elections as well.

  19. Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    If we don’t closed our borders and put all of these ILLEGALS OUT EVEN THEIR BABIES THEN AMERICA IS DOOM. THE OTHER REASON WE’ER DOOM IS WE HAVE TURNED OUR BACKS ON OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.

  20. Illegal “Dreamers” have turned American lives into “Nightmares”!

  21. Did you see Jose Ramos and the way he acted with Trump? Proof the Mexican culture is Not one to wait it’s turn, not to speak or come here legally. They are people who are raised to defy laws out of desperation (Take care of #1); thus why Mexico is such a mess. I see this in my own neighborhood, selling of drugs; theft, sociopathic behavior, crossing way beyond social boundary lines by pushing themselves Way too into your business, forgery and this is only involving 2 families. It doesn’t seem to help going to the police anymore. They just tell you to get a lawyer.

  22. E-Verify ! When the jobs dry up, they will stop coming. Make your nanny or gardener show citizenship!!

  23. I agree. I work in the legal system, and take Court appointment. There are so many abusing the system. 18 and 19 year olds getting SSI or SSD for abusing alcohol or drug, or saying they have a mental disorder, when they don’t. They dress better than the working class poor I represent. They all have new $300 tennis shoes, expensive clothing and free phones. It is a crock. I tell them, you’re too young to be on the system, straighten up and get an education or a job and make something of yourself. They think it is owed to them. No wonder our Country is going down tubes. I guarantee I could cut enough areas of waste in government to quickly save us from becoming a third world Country. Build the fence, it will save us a lot of money and lives to boot. It isn’t just Mexicans coming across the border, but terrorists as well, but that is what Obama wants.

  24. Well finally….the E-Verify and “Self-Deportation” it would
    certainly cause is being discussed. Gee, did it really never
    occur to anyone? Instead, always proclaiming the exorbitant cost of deportation and how we couldn’t afford it? I think there are some very curious and suspect attitudes
    at work( Running loose) in our Government and apparently they are members of both Parties…..Hmmmm!!!!

  25. After the wall is built, we need a big sign that reads “Hey Obama-We built that”.

    • But NOT ALONE, which was THE POINT of that line, silly human.
      THE GOVERNMENT would have built it.

      ALSO Obama’s point.

      see how silly cons are?

      • Well, gosh. It never occurred to me that a wall could be built without human tax dollars and without human beings getting paid with those tax dollars to build it. Thank goodness you thought things through for us.

        • So silly conservative doesn’t know the origins of “WE BUILT THAT”

          Let me explain for the low information human.

          Obama said in reference to the right wings assertion that government was necessary for American exceptionalism to blossom.

          That we all need assistance from someone else.

          Do you get it now silly conservative?

          • I’m ever so aware of the origin of “you didn’t build that”. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with that one. Do you get it now?

          • Oh I see.
            You were just being stupid for the sake of being stupid.
            My mistake

          • You folks like to believe that you can just name-call your way into winning. It’s not even remotely impressive.

  26. Benefits to illegals is why we are in such a disastrous financial situation in the first place. You can’t just hand over billions of dollars to illegal immigrants that don’t work. It isn’t fair to legal Americans who work hard every day. If this doesn’t stop, we’ll be a third world country before long.

  27. Wow, FINALLY, somebody with some common sense is speaking out. I never could figure out how taking COMPLETE care of these illegals was cheaper than making them go HOME!

  28. WE spend $ 230 Billions on Illegals every year.

    • THAT IS A BIG LIE.
      “The Heritage Foundation, a conservative research think tank, estimated in 2013 that the aggregate annual deficit for all unlawful citizens was about $54.4 billion”

      http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer

      • BIG LIE or NOT : What difference does it Make .?????????????
        It is our money , Money of American Taxpayers , Supporting the Illegal Invasive Species ; Your Taxes too ; remember that .
        Thank you and Bless you too.

      • Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America – Rense.com

        Illegal alien migration into the United States costs American taxpayers $346
        billion annually reported by the National Research Council. While employers of …

        http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm – 17k – Cached – Similar Pages

        • your source uses even more questionable sources

          The Heritage fund is a right wing think tank.

          What difference does it make?
          cons love to exaggerate.

          lets remember it was OK to blow 20 plus billion dollars when Cruz shut down the government.
          so apparently that’s no big amount.

          a good deal of this money is health related.
          sick people cost society money merely by their spreading of sickness and lost work.

          it therefore becomes the better of the two evils to give them healthcare.

      • Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America – Rense.com

        Illegal alien migration into the United States costs American taxpayers $346
        billion annually reported by the National Research Council. While employers of …

        http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm – 17k – Cached – Similar Pages

      • reality check Troll Alert . . . These same ” TROLLS” were surveyed and it was found that one out of three liberal “TROLLS” is just as dumb and gullible as the other two. This particular troll seems to have a permanent occupation as the 0webombs bum wiper..
        A recent survey found that one out of three liberals is just as stupid as the other two.

        That’s as telling a statistic as 92.58% of all liberals believe anything another liberal tells them. But have great difficulty believing the truth

  29. We have let the government do NOTHING long enough. The Mexicans have been making jokes about America and how easy it is to fool us

  30. Why hasn’t anyone suggested putting American troops on our borders to keep out illegals and drug runners? I’m sure it can be worked into their training schedule somehow. When I was in the military I was trained on ways to stop the enemy from infiltrating our lines. What better way to train a new recruit then to actually have them stop and detain any illegals from infiltrating our borders.

    • I like that . . . shout halt or I’ll shoot and since they refuse to learn english. Huh is not obeying so shoot the invaders.

  31. I get a kick out of these pieces that look at undocumented aliens from one and only one perspective.

    • .
      There is only one perspective. . . . they are illegal aliens breaking our laws and should be deported.
      .

      • Well TPP,
        For ever action-there is a reaction. I have seen all of the literary pieces regarding how much money we would save if these people left. What you are saying has Merritt, but there would be ramifications both good and bad.

        While there would be some social savings in macro cost, there would also be some higher micro cost to consumers and i’m not sure that people really realize this fact.

        • .
          It is hard to get more than the $750,000 deficit that is estimated for EVERY illegal alien .
          .
          and far as micro costs go, we will grin and bear it. while we put the savings back into taxpayers pocket.
          .

  32. What would Jeb Bush know?

    he should take his mother’s advice.

  33. With a strong Immigration policy we kneed people to come here that have intelligence.
    Not Latinos and Muslims that are 3rd grade dropouts and are not even fluent in their
    own language. They need to stay in their own countries until the can graduate High
    School. Think more about their studies they making more children. They need to study
    English and become proficient so they can get a Visa to come into the country and then
    after a year or tow apply for American Citizenship. Coming here legally is the only way
    they should come here. We the American will accept them with Open Arms if they come
    here Legally and speak English.

  34. On Immigration:There is a College named HIllsdale. They print and distribute a publication called, Imprimis. It presents educational literature by recognized persons. Go to Hillsdale.com. Ask for a copy of the issue of February 2015, Vol 44, Number 2. I provides a strong presentation Titled,”Practical Thoughts on Immigration.” You can also be added to their mailing list.

  35. Trump’s total ignorance of law.

  36. How many years has it been since the dems duped Reagan? I think Ronald Reagan was a great president.
    Why did H W Bush, Bill Clinton, G W Bush or the African Prince not pick up the torch and build the wall?
    Holy shit it’s been (1988 – 2015) 27 years the border has been open since Reagan left office in 1988.
    Where was congress? Where were we the voters, not demanding a fix?
    Everyone had their heads in their posteriors and now it’s Trump that brings the border issue up and is politically incorrect in the mind of the liberals. If it had not been for Trump after 27, yes 27 years who instituted the wake up call.
    The poor Mexican illegal law breaking aliens are now “THE BIG NEWS”.
    1. Ship their asses back.
    2. Build the wall now and heard them back to Mexico and shut the gate.
    3. Problem solved?

  37. It is not the immigrants or Chinese goods in out stores that is the problem. The problem is the USA is engaged in wars around the world that the USA cannot afford. We keep sending money to foreign countries like Israel that have nothing to offer the USA in the words of resources. The USA need to enact a universal free trade agreement, get rid of minimum wage, replace the tax system and welfare with a negative income tax, get government out of areas it should not be, eliminate regulations, get rid of financial aid, pass right to work laws, and get rid of subsidies and tax rebates. Do these things and we will see a drastic improvement in the worldwide economy not just the USA. The USA needs to stop interfering in the affairs of other states. We definitely need to reduce the military budget while keeping benefits for veterans who earned them.

  38. Hey AKLADY you liberal moron. If you break our laws and cross the border illegally, that negates the constitution if you drop your illegal child. I guess you dumb asses irrational thinking only applies if it fits your adgenda

  39. Well said, Richard

  40. richard schlinder

    Most countries demand an original birth certificate and a current police report to apply for residency or a work permit. The immigration laws have been ignored since the seventies because of special interests in California and Florida. In Costa Rica,even after receiving residency,you are not allowed to take a job.You can however start your own business but all your employees need to be Costa Ricans. Jobs are for the Costa Ricas,not foreigners .

  41. ” DUH ” a whole lot of people have been saying that for years but it just falls on deaf ears or on those who want to bankrupt our welfare system !!!!!!!

  42. Yes, it will be very expensive to ship all the illegal immigrants back to their home countries but once they are there, we will have no further expenses to support them for the rest of their lives. No more free healthcare, housing, food and everything else that obama was promising them. Things that a lot of legal Americans could not afford but obama was very free with taxpayer money to give these freeloading illegal immigrants anything and everything they demanded. Of course, he is also one of the illegal immigrants and should be deported back to Kenya where he was born or Indonesia where he grew up. He and his crew should get a one way ticket with no secret service and no pension.

  43. Does anyone know how much it costs to help illegals with food stamps, medical, housing, Social Security and
    anything else that they receive from our Federal Government? How longwill they need all this assistance?

    Then tell me how much would it cost to send them back to their country?

    I think in the long run it would cost the American tax payer a lot more to keep them here then to send them back.

    Just a thought!

  44. The only ones who oppose building a wall and stopping these law breaking illegals form entering our country are the ones who are out to destroy it. Ever notice there’s always money to house feed school and give free medical care and all the other free benefits to, but our social security is going broke and medicare which we also paid into is in trouble. same thing is true about welfare there’s always plenty of money to support that to, but yet our vets have no money. Our government is playing us as fools and it’s time we rid DC of as many of these disrespectful a holes as possible. Mr. trump is right, he can make America a great place again

  45. MrsTJNic@aol.com

    LOL. That’s right. Start defunding liberal crap, starting with the UN, the EPA, the IRS, Planned Parenthood, & welfare.

  46. Trump is the only candidate of either party who has expressed a strong immigration policy, even some may not like it. Those south of the border who have entered legally ought to be for Trump for it is their JOBS that Trump will be PROTECTING, among others of course, but those not fluent in English, particularly.

  47. We already have strong immigration laws. What we need is a strong congress to make sure they are enforced.

  48. CLOSE OUR BORDERS TO ALL PEOPLE. Doesn’t matter where they are from. WE have the right to take back OUR country at whatever the cost. Let’s DO IT. Let’s send a message. DON’T COME HERE ILLEGALLY, OR, YOU WILL BE SENT BACK TO WHERE EVER YOU ARE FROM. Or, we may decide to try you, convict you and then EXECUTE you.

  49. do what Eisenhower did…give them notice so they can leave willingly with their belongings and if they stay load them onto freighters and ship them back to their Real countries…by the way illegals send most of their pay Out of this country so if they were gone and our citizens had jobs again our citizens spend all their pay in this country which creates demand and then creates more jobs and a recovery cycle for our country!

  50. Good article. These kind of stories need to hit the mainstream media. Something not discussed is the amount of drugs these people bring in with them. Not to mention, how much illegal drug use centers around their enclaves. I know this as I live in a Texas town that has it’s share of these “residents”. I wonder what kind of numbers we would be looking at if you factored in “The War on Drugs”. But what the hell, every dreamer wants to dream of breaking the law to live somewhere.

  51. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is a major threat to our National Security! These people have absolutely NO allegiance to this country! They are huge draw on our benefits programs and serve to undermine respect for the law! Then there is the concern about terroists who are coming in with the rest of ILLEGALS! The C.S. politicians who make their entry and continued presence in this country possible should be held responsible for the crimes committed by ILLEGALS as accomplices!

  52. ””””””””””””””””””””””’donald trump for president”””””””””””””””””””’

  53. if those numbers are indeed correct, then the Trump plan would break even in 3 years! wake up, AMERICA!

  54. I am willing to pay more taxes to rid us of every last illegal alien that is here

  55. So much bloviating. Simply close our borders to illegal immigration through effective,enforcement of our present laws including swift deportation. Correctly interpret the 14th Amendment, specifically the section regarding children born on US soil by foreigners, aliens, diplomats or illegal immigrants do not qualify for automatic American citizenship. It’s our sovereignty. We should be enforcing it, not catering or foolishly committing political correctness suicide.

  56. Michael Dennewitz

    The biggest illegal is the little floppy eared, halfbreed bastard in OUR white house. What the hell does anyone expect? And he’s steadily bringing his army of illegal mooselums over by the thousands! Get rid of his sorry ass first! That alone would fix a big part of the problems!!!

  57. Anchor babies are a myth, a lie.

    The mere birth of a child in North America does not guarantee the child nor their parents the right to live in the United States at least not until the child reaches the age of 21.

    Some time in the future, once the child becomes an adult, they will be able to return to the U.S. but that is down the road.

  58. Stop supporting planned parenthood, EPA and Homeland Security as they are doing nothing for America.

  59. 2 BILLION IS GOING TO ILLEGALS FOR IRS REFUNDS WHEN THEY HAVE NEVER WORKED

  60. The deliberate concealment of crime statistics of illegal alien committing robberies, rapes, murders & kidnappings by the Justice Department to hide the “broader range of policy failure” is far worse than the Benghazi scandal.

  61. No- We Need the Hispanics! Especially the Younger Women ! Let them Come in and Let them Be our Housekeeprs and Give them Room and Board and send them to school to Learn The American Way of Houskeeping, Cooking & Cleaning ! then they can go to Driving school and take More Additoanl Courses to better eduacte them for Better Job Skills- We need them to Help our Babyboomer Seniors stay Living In their Homes and not OVER LOAD our Nursing homes!

    Home care services want too much $ ! Ave $600 a Week ! that’s why they don’t want Hispanics to Enter the country ! and Or Dealing with The Country’s MUSLIM Populaiton that is Growing ! ITs the Lessor of 2 Evils! Fellow Catholic /Christens or MUSLIM..take your choice

  62. Justt make it Mandatory for anyone Getting our Welfare? ( Legal or Illegal )
    Their Women and Teens have to take Birth Control! Its really just that simple! and they now have a Match Stick size BC in the Arm that Last 3 yrs ! Call Implanion– and If they come over Pregant? Their Child is NOT a US Citizen when born here! They have to be one 1st!

  63. Thousands of American businesses that depend on government handouts to its workers to pay the rest of their wages would fail. These companies can pay so little because the government will feed them and provide health care. Without government subsidies thousands of companies that depend on illegal immigrants and the working poor would go under. That is part of the cost.

  64. Anybody who doesn’t know the danger of a weak immigration policy should ask the Indians what happens when a lot of poor white trash come into the country without permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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