Republican Upheaval: Change is Coming

Depending on how the next year and a half shakes out, we could be standing on the precipice of real change in the Republican Party. The turmoil that has engulfed both the House of Representatives and the GOP presidential race clearly demonstrates that something fundamental is happening on the ground. Fed up with lies, fed up with an unstoppable liberal tyrant, and fed up with spineless RINOs, conservatives are ready to burn the party to the ground if it means a phoenix might rise from the ashes.

The controversy over the next House Speaker has both liberal and conservative writers declaring the Republican Party a house of dysfunction. The shocking news of John Boehner’s retirement was almost immediately followed by the shocking news that Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy was removing his name from contention. If anyone thought that the Tea Party had peaked back in the days of Sarah Palin, one look at Congress today is enough to see otherwise.

Of course, it’s a simplification to say this is somehow a battle between real conservatives and moderates. Both Boehner and McCarthy have extraordinary conservative credentials. No one would question either man’s principles. On the flipside, there are plenty of “hardliner” congressmen whose beliefs are only a shade to the right of Jeb Bush’s. The difference isn’t so much an ideological one – it’s about what to do with those principles when push comes to shove.

It’s the same on the ground, although in the real world the lines between principle and ideology are a little blurrier. No one but the most dedicated political gadfly has a real understanding of the complexities of the federal government (especially at this size), which means the big ideas come to the forefront. A fraction of conservatives care about the Trans-Pacific Partnership in any meaningful way; it’s much easier to get your head around a Mexican wall.

Either way, it comes to the same thing. Conservative voters don’t want to hear about how much money the Republican Congress has saved since 2012. We want to know why President Obama is free to break the law on immigration reform. We want to know why Republicans weren’t able to stop the Iranian deal. We want to know why a party with majorities in the House and Senate is seemingly powerless.

According to the establishment types, it’s because of the Freedom Caucus – the hardliners who have been largely credited with Boehner’s resignation. These 40 or 50 legislators act as a third party, unwilling to cooperate on even the smallest compromises. And Boehner-allies like Rep. Pete King have been all over the news singing this song as loudly as possible, hoping it finds an audience somewhere.

You can’t blame them for trying, but this is a train that has already left the station. The Republicans in the Freedom Caucus are beholden to constituencies that elected them precisely because they promised to change things up. And unlike the old guard, they seem intent on following through with that promise.

 

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  1. Since the approval rating of the GOP congress is at 4% there is really no where they can go, but up.
    OR is IT?

    Since there are only 40-50 of the wacky TP in congress, how exactly do they think they can run congress with 12% of the members?
    Is this some kind of “wacky con logic”?

    • Reality Check (& John) say: ‘You’d better give up, you can NEVER accomplish anything.” But what is the re-election rate of the Congress as a whole? What was the % of the founders those mere 240 years ago? What was the % of Communists 70 years ago, and % now? I think we conservatives can, and should, at the very least, stem the tide of Socialist [the Fed Government owns the means of production] or Communist [the Fed Government owns the means of production and the output (meaning everything about its subjects lives)]

      • Well I was only talking about you dysfunctional conservatives.
        The GOP are so fractured they can’t even get business done with the largest majority in 90 years.

        Stem the tide of communism?
        so you must be on some serious drugs if you think that is happening.

        Stem the tide of socialists?
        so you must be short most of your grey matter if you think that is happening.

        you don’t even seem to understand what kind of country we REALLY DO live in.

        Democratic Socialist Country.

        best you get used to that term since we have been practicing it since the Constitution was signed.

        Social Security is Democratic Socialism.
        Medicare is Democratic Socialism.
        Medicaid is Democratic Socialism
        Public libraries are Democratic Socialism. (and in the Constitution)
        The US highway system is Democratic Socialism (and in the Constitution)
        our electric grid is Democratic Socialism
        Public Utilities are Democratic Socialism

        time to face facts, low info con.

        • once again RC, your points are bull crap. You dysfunctional liberals who follow Obama so close to his anus that if he ever stops short, your nose will take on the color of burnt umber.

          • sure silly fool.
            a government supported highway system is the best part of “capitalism”

            a government supported post office is the best part of “capitalism”

            a government supported healthcare called Medicare is the best part of “capitalism”

            a government supported Medicare is the best part of “capitalism”.

            your problem Dan is you have your head deep in the sand.

          • Oops, I forgot t mention your BK USPS, another government failure whose job is destined to fail, and fall into private enterprise hands. To say everything the government does to operate enterprises is to say they all turn to shit sooner or later.

          • your problem is that your analogies and parallels are dishonest…your examples are not tied to capitalism…better luck next time, JACKASS

          • that’s right fool.
            I was making the POINT that we are FAR from a Capitalist country, Dim Dan

          • you are the DIM one not me. I quite understood what point you were making….you didn’t understand mine, you just sling barbs. Well, RC, you are the idiot who told me opera is gay, or perhaps that because it is a hobby of mine that I was gay. I see no connection, and I think Beverly Sills would agree with me. You are clearly unsophisticated. Why do you call people who disagree with you gay? I thought that term was reserved for pals of yours.

            Also, you have never addressed the fact that I outed you as someone uncouth enough to blow your nose at the dinner table and prop your feet on furniture, the mark of a total slob.

            You and your dullard democrap friends still haven’t wriggled out of the TRUE FACT which we all saw come out of this administrations mouths, that the Benghazi murders were attributable to an anti-Islam video, a bald face lie…..this alone should be enough to convict Hilary without the need for her “damn emails” !

        • The Militia is also in the Constitution and in due time We The People (WTP) are going to take care of people like Reality Check. Frankly, Congress has betrayed WTP. And since the TeaParty “leaders” are false/controlled opposition, I’ll believe they have turned over a new leaf in the Stupid Party when I see it. We The Sheeple are pretty much clueless since they gave up their right to self governance in 1903. But WTP, Christian patriots who ARE the “well regulated Militia” necessary to secure a free state (and about 100,000,000 strong), just need a leader to help us take the country back from the non-Christians pushing us around. Ross Perot betrayed the Militia. Pat Buchanan betrayed the Militia. Ron Paul betrayed the Militia. And Donald Trump, who didn’t even mention the Militia in his “gun control” plan, is going to betray us as well. His ignorance of the Second
          Amendment is Unacceptable.

        • How long have you been working for the DHS?

          • how long have you been stupid?

          • Almost as long as you.
            I just found out this week they pay guys like you to troll and edit wiki pages.

          • oh, please tell me where I can get paid for this much fun?

          • Aw cmon don’t play coy.

          • Right Wing Propaganda lies to you fools all the time.
            this is no different.

            apparently YOU LIE since you don’t back anything up.
            THAT is what LIARS DO.

          • And you DO very well, almost, since no one believes you.
            Got to give you credit for trying.

          • maybe the con would like to prove he’s smarter than a fifth grader and debate the liberal.

          • You consider yourself a 5th grader liberal eh.

          • most cons don’t have the knowledge of a fifth grader and based on your posts I was giving you credit for a few grades.

          • Yep, I’m a few grades above you apparently.
            I don’t have to pull my finger from my rear and stick it out the window to check the direction of reality constantly.

          • maybe Realty Czech (sorry Czech’s and realtors everywhere) needs to “pull my finger” a few times to amuse his sophomoric self.

          • Lmao. Sophomoric is giving him to much credit.

          • 20 Habits of Paid Trolls, propagandists, shills:
            (borrowed from DKoS)
            1) Post one diary every quarter
            2) Never tip
            3) Never completely disagree – just throw the comment thread off track
            4) Post at the top of the diary/ thread
            5) Never recommend or acknowledge link (only gives issue more visibility)
            6) Work in shifts so are ready 24 hours a day – 7 days a week
            7) When comments get troll rated – dump ID and move to new ID
            8) Use multiple IDs’ and computers so can post under more than 1 ID in the same thread.
            9) Have an alert system to have other post on diaries/ threads that are “dangerous” to their employers (most likely a Koch brother front group/health insurance co employee)
            10) Mostly make hard to read cutting edge stories in their infancy – mainstream popular diaries/ threads get too many views for paid trolls to have much of an impact
            11) Discourage new diary/ thread posters
            12) Turn off readers with a hostile tone, vicious, or condescending attack, recommend tin foil hat, meds, etc
            13) Call your statistics arbitrary, ask you to check your figures, doubt your analysis or facts.
            14) Tell readers your story lacks facts, that your story lacks depth, that your story lacks research, that your links prove nothing, that your conclusions are wrong etc (of course a troll will never offer a shred of “evidence” or facts to back up a single of their assertions, only generalities) and state they are on to stir debate
            15) Write using a dismissive, surly tone
            16) Dismiss diary/ thread writer or comment posters as not quite right
            17) Have a tag line about anything but what Newsmax is about – but not actually opposing what Newsmax is about
            18) No personal identities on their page
            19) Never offer any constructive ideas
            20) Complain that someone is not following the Newsmax “rules”
            Conclusion: sadly: paid trolls work

          • you forgot your link.

          • Aw, gee, how irresponsible of me.
            I guess you’ll just have to refer to #5. 😀

          • and you forgot to refute his charge that you are a paid troll

          • I think we have discussed this before, silly con

          • Seems he knows too much about trolling, not to be one. LOL. I always love when your introduce reality to the discussion, you don’t get a discussion but name calling, no offering of proof, and also a lot of delusional ideas and conspiracies.

          • eat LITTLE DEBBIES…they are inert.

          • I had Debbie, she wasn’t quite that little. 🙂 hey, I was high on nitro, what can I say.

        • Moron, the power grid, many utilities and most railroads (with the exception of inefficient money-sucking empty-cars Amtrak) are NOT govt. owned, (note Wall St. stocks) and most of the public libraries in the US were first built with Carnegie money; granted, they’re publicly funded to some extent today, and are the first to take funding cuts. Medicare and Medicaid are more money-sucking boondoggles and should be privatized for efficiency’s sake. Our Republic may be dying, but it’s not dead yet, and may survive if fed-up voters can oust the criminals in the WH and Congress. FU and your BK- bound Socialism!

          • the old fart has never heard of AMTRAK.
            Your tap dancing gets you know where.
            Be a man and admit I am right and you conservatives need a reality check.
            Our republic is dying because you fools keep listening to HATE media which does nothing but LIE TO YOU.

            would you like to debate YOUR facts against mine?
            Socialism?
            are you DAFT?

            I just get through teaching you about Democratic socialism and seconds later you ave turned ignorant again.

            sad old man.

          • you win the arguments? BWAAAAHHHAAAAHHAAAA. YOU COULDN’T SCHOOL ANYONE, EVEN IF THEY WERE ADOLESCENT SPONGES

          • SO NOW YOU BECOME AN AGE-BIASED LIBTARD, EH? AGE BIAS IS WRONG. Didn’t your crappy democraptic potty teach you that?? Calling someone “old man” is as bad as racism. Even if they refer to themselves as old man, SONNY.

          • not when you’re 61.
            I then have the right

            He even has OLD in his name for god sake.

            you really are Dim Dan.

        • Hells, bells, NO WONDER WE’RE ON A FAST-TRACK TO RUINATION – THE DEMONCRAPS “ARE IN CHARGE” YEE HAW!

          Unreality chick – yu at it agin?

        • Realty Czech, you crack me up…best jokes on the net.

    • .reality check Troll Alert . . . These same ” TROLLS” were surveyed and it was found that one out of three liberal “TROLLS” is just as dumb and gullible as the other two. This particular troll seems to have a permanent occupation as the 0webombs bum wiper..
      A recent survey found that one out of three liberals is just as stupid as the other two.

      That’s as telling a statistic as 92.58% of all liberals believe anything another liberal tells them. But have great difficulty believing the truth

    • Michael Dennewitz

      TROLL ALERT! QUEER TROLL ALERT !!! GO HOME LIL FAGGOT TROLL!!!

      • Well, Christians stand by while 5 SCOTUS “Justices” proclaim sodomite “marriage” is “the supreme law of the land.” So what does that say about “Christians”?

        • sad that your so challenged.

          the SCOTUS merely ruled that states that were passing laws against same sex marriages was unconstitutional.

          try to stop lying.

          • SCOTUS did not rule. They lack the authority to rule. They offer opinions and others, in their naiveté run with the ball and say SCOTUS said it.

          • yet somehow the entire country SWITCHED overnight, just because those people in black robes spoke.

            I guess THEY RULE

          • You have never cited WHERE in the Constitution that says the country and the states must kiss a$$ of sodomites (so to speak) and bless their vile union and intent to destroy true marriage on this earth? How about point out just WHERE IT SAYS THAT IN OUR CONSTITUTION!

          • sad to be as ignorant as you.

            “Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States,
            and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
            States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or
            enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges
            or immunities of
            citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of
            life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
            person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

          • you failed to be responsive to his comment….stop digressing, democraptic moron.

          • You fail to be smarter than a radish.
            I posted the LAW that made gay marriage legal.
            I can’t help it if you are too twisted to understand (or want to)

    • Reality Check, you’re the “wacky” one and the Militia will be coming for you in due time if you don’t hide your views.

    • reality check Troll Alert . . . These same ” TROLLS” were surveyed and it was found that one out of three liberal “TROLLS” is just as dumb and gullible as the other two. This particular troll seems to have a permanent occupation as the 0webombs bum wiper..
      A recent survey found that one out of three liberals is just as stupid as the other two.

      That’s as telling a statistic as 92.58% of all liberals believe anything another liberal tells them. But have great difficulty believing the truth

      • Fifth time for Tea Party Pansy……………

      • these trolls are “sexual intellectuals”. That means “effing know-it-alls”.
        RC and I combined know everything there is to know. He knows everything except that he is a jackass, and I happen to know that.

  2. Oh, RC, it’s the man of all wisdom again! 1st, the Freedom Caucus isn’t just TP, but anyone who believes in constitutional government. They are standing firm against rule by fiat, and the wimps that are allowing it.
    By the way, if these guys were progressive liberals pushing their crap,you

    • ya, cause cutting benefits to Vets is “constitutional”.

      not fixing the infrastructure in “constitutional”.

      silly Mark.

      • As usual, RC, you make no sense. The comment I’m referring to has nothing to do with Vets or infrastructure.
        BUT, to your issues, infrastructure is State responsibility, not Fed, except for maybe DC.
        Vets are being screwed by your “wonderful, progressive, liberal” POTUS, who, just like every other WPL out there hates the military & screws with it every chance they can.
        I still challenge you to loose the moniker… I’m beginning to think that you don’t even know what I’m talking about! A new word for you…

        • “Military Groups Slam Republicans For Killing A Bill Supporting Veterans”

          Veterans organizations were upset with Senate Republicans after they
          failed to gain enough votes of support to move forward with a measure that
          would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for
          veterans. The GOP argued that the bill would bust the budget.

          http://samuel-warde.com/2015/03/military-groups-slam-republican/

          “How $1.4 billion in budget cuts will impact Veterans”

          “Last week, the House Appropriations Subcommittee marked up the 2016
          Veterans Affairs funding bill, and slashed more than $1.4 billion from
          the president’s requested budget for America’s Veterans. Today, VA
          Secretary Bob McDonald appeared before the Senate Appropriations Committee to discuss that budget proposal.”

          http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/19356/how-1-4-billion-in-budget-cuts-will-impact-veterans/

      • Reality,
        I can respond to that as a vet. No one likes to see any cuts to the VA. But that is not happening. I wonder why? Neither chamber in Congress wants to make cuts to the Va. sure, it has been discussed. So have cuts to Social Security. Is that Unconstitutional or simply facing the fact that we are running out of enough money to pay our bills. If I cannot pay all my bills, something does not get paid. Congress ins no different. And who is running us out of money? It is not the conservatives.

        • “How $1.4 billion in budget cuts will impact Veterans”

          “Last week, the House Appropriations Subcommittee marked up the 2016
          Veterans Affairs funding bill, and slashed more than $1.4 billion from
          the president’s requested budget for America’s Veterans. Today, VA
          Secretary Bob McDonald appeared before the Senate Appropriations Committee to discuss that budget proposal.”

          http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/19356/how-1-4-billion-in-budget-cuts-will-impact-veterans/

          • Reality,
            I just did some checking on this issue. As I understand this, the budget was some 9.4 billon higher and the GOP reduced it by 1.4 billion. That is still an 8 billon dollar increase according to my simple math. Nice try, though.

          • From my link.
            I think you forgot yours.

            ” The 2016 House proposal reduces VA medical care by $690 million. What
            does this mean? As a result of the overall cut to medical services, an
            estimated 70,000 fewer Veterans will receive the VA care they need.”
            “Also wrapped up in the cuts to medical care is a reduction of $582 million
            to address VA’s high priority construction projects. This cut will
            reduce VA’s ability to provide additional outpatient services and will
            impact four major construction projects, including the long sought-after
            French Camp Community Based Outpatient Clinic in Livermore, California.”

            “Military Groups Slam Republicans For Killing A Bill Supporting Veterans”

            Veterans organizations were upset with Senate Republicans after they
            failed to gain enough votes of support to move forward with a measure that
            would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for
            veterans. The GOP argued that the bill would bust the budget.

            http://samuel-warde.com/2015/03/military-groups-slam-republican/

          • Reality,
            I was listening to Rep. Labrador (R-Idaho)on a local news story. I do not know how to link to that.

          • Oh Jerry,
            now we are pretending that politicians NEVER LIE to stay in office?

            Here’s a concise extraction for easy viewing for
            those who are INTERESTED IN VETERANS ISSUES and need to know which party
            supports veterans and which party does not.

            The GOP rejected Bills are named:

            H.R. 466 – Wounded Veteran Job Security Act became H. R. 2875.

            H.R. 1168 — Veterans Retraining Act

            H.R. 1171 – Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization

            H.R. 1172 — Requiring List on VA Website of Organizations Providing Scholarships for Veterans

            H.R. 1293 — Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act of 2009

            H.R. 1803 — Veterans Business Center Act

            H.R. 2352 – Job Creation Through Entrepreneurship Act

            DETAILS OF BILLS REJECTED BY REPUBLICANS:

            H.R. 466 – Wounded Veteran Job Security Act – This
            bill would actually provide job security for veterans who are receiving
            medical treatment for injuries suffered while fighting in defense of
            their country. It would prohibit employers from terminating employees who miss work while receiving treatment for a service-related disability.

            H.R. 1168 — Veterans Retraining Act – This bill
            would provide for assistance to help veterans who are currently
            unemployed with their expenses while retraining for the current job
            market.

            H.R. 1171 – Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
            – This bill would reauthorize programs in support of homeless
            veterans, to assist them with job training, counseling, and placement
            services through the Department of Veterans Affairs through 2014.

            H.R. 1172 — Requiring List on VA Website of Organizations
            Providing Scholarships for Veterans which does nothing more than direct
            the Department of Veterans Affairs to include information about
            scholarships for veterans.

            H.R. 1293 — Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act of 2009
            – Here’sanother bill in support of those who have fought for their
            country, passed by House Democrats and blocked from becoming law by
            Republicans.

            This would increase the amount paid by the VA to disabled veterans
            for necessary home structural improvements from $4,100 to $6,800 for
            those who are more than 50% disabled, and from $1,200 to $2,000 who are
            less than 50%, disabled. This means, if a veteran lost the use of his
            legs in service of his country, the country will pay for the wheelchair
            ramp so that he can live at home.

            By the way, the last time this ceiling was lifted was in 1992. There
            isn’t even a fiscal reason for being against this bill, as the total
            cost of this bill, according to CBO estimates, would be a “whopping” $20
            million. That’s about a quarter (25 cents) per family of four.

            H.R. 1803 — Veterans Business Center Act – This
            bill would set up a Veterans Business Center program within the Small
            Business Administration, which would specialize in such programs as
            grants for service-disabled veterans, help them develop business plans
            and secure business opportunities. In other words, folks, it would
            create jobs and offer opportunities those who have fought in defense of
            our country.

            H.R. 2352 – Job Creation Through Entrepreneurship Act
            – This bill essentially combines a number of other bills that
            Republicans had blocked in the Senate previously, and adds a few
            elements. The bill would again establish a Veterans Business Center
            Program; …. it would establish a Military Entrepreneurs Program; …

            VOTERS NEED TO SEE THIS LIST to offset the distortions offered by the GOP and the silent media.

            But we have enough money to subsidize the oil industry and Big Agro.

            GOP priorities are just messed up

          • Reality,
            I get a bulletin from Rep Simpson every month which shows every piece of legislation that the House deals with. It seems strange that none of these are on any list I have gotten recently. They may be on the next one but I do not have such a list at present. I suspect these are ones which did little for vets, as some of the ones you list do not. So, I’ll make inquiry on the list and see what happens.
            Meanwhile, Rep Labrador said nothing about this list either. But he did say a bill was passed for a vet budget.

          • these are older.
            don’t forget they have been in control of the house since 2010.
            the gutting of vet benefits started then

          • Reality,
            Our Hispanic sees the issues the same as the majority of us. He is farther right than I am. He is Tea Party.
            As a vet I have not noticed any less benefits than usual. I get whatever I need and I am checked frequently. Very little ever costs me a dime.

          • Reality,
            Here is something else that might interest you. In 1970 I started a cub scout pack in the little church I attended in Nyssa, Oregon. After a short while I recruited some Hispanic kids. After a coupe of weeks the older couple who owned the property on which the church sat, ordered me to get the Hispanic kids out of the church building. I promptly resigned that day and three days later I moved my family out of town. That angered many in the church. By the end of the month the church had closed down and has never reopened. I have driven through Nyssa, Oregon just once since then. I did not stop.

          • (PND) The State Militias are the constitutional way the framers gave We the People for retaining power so the People can throw out the traitors in Congress and state legislatures. Now I’m working to organize 15,000,000 Militia in Texas. All patriots should be working in their respective states to reactivate the Militia and take back America.

          • Nicholas,
            The President is still the commander in chief of our military and state guard units can be nationalized these days. So lots of luck. I would certainly urge the Idaho Guard to join – if they could.
            I hope the GOP did not shoot themselves in the foot on Hillary with the Bengazi affair.

          • Jerry: the Guard is not the constitutional Militia called for by the Second Amendment. There is currently no state with a constitutional Militia. Lots of small private “militias” (so called). Weekend warrior types. I’m working on Texas being the first so we can become economically free by getting rid of the Money Lenders and their usury, as well as their lapdog IRS. But we’ll need to revitalize the 15,000,000 Texians to provide the muscle for a fight if the traitors in WDC want to bring it. I’m taking a risk, but I’m terminal anyway. But I’m not getting the financial support to do this fulltime. If anyone knows some wealthy patriots to back me, I’d also run a congressional campaign and use the Media against themselves to create a nationwide Militia movement. Have them contact me so we can talk turkey.

          • Nicholas,
            What is the state’s guard unit for?

          • RC, you can quote all you want to. I can quote things too, but the problem that I’m pointing out is that simply your argument had NOTHING to do with the thread I was writing about. You need to stay on track, as you comment on any and every thread….

          • That Fascists Obama spent way to much on ISIS and Muslim and illegals and the world and left us broke.

        • “Military Groups Slam Republicans For Killing A Bill Supporting Veterans”

          Veterans organizations were upset with Senate Republicans after they
          failed to gain enough votes of support to move forward with a measure that
          would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for
          veterans. The GOP argued that the bill would bust the budget.

          http://samuel-warde.com/2015/03/military-groups-slam-republican/

          eventually you are going to realize I don’t make up things.

          • lying piece of shcit with no love anywhere in your being. Bad person that spreads lies and deceit like your master and father the devil. I rebuke you in the NAME of Yahushua. I bind your words in the Name of Jesus. They have no power anywhere on the internet. What is bound on earth is bound in heaven and those trolls that are inside of you that you have given control, no longer have any power!

          • Are you referring to the black muslim terrorist in the white house?? That sounds like the muslim slime that paid a million dollars to have his records sealed! A million dollars that he didn’t have that some anti American slime paid for to help him destroy America!!!

          • Exactly and all of the trolls that imitate and follow him!

          • I’ll give you that….you don’t make things up, you merely quote links that do so..

          • AND lets not forget that NO ONE EVER PROVES ME WRONG.

        • It;s that fascist liar Obama and his dirty Regime of progressive communists it has all been planned for a while. Obama supports Muslim and illegals over American, he hates America and he hates the white race even more. I want that fake and liar out of the white house.

          • I sure wished the end was near for that fascist dog Obama, can’t wait to see that scum walk out of the white house

          • way before the end of his term!!

          • In Chains!

          • I wake up every morning hoping to read his obituary!! As long as he lives he will be trying to destroy America! You heard him say he would work on the EPA when he is out of office! We won’t have a company able to operate in America!!!

          • Not if the EPA is defunded.

          • How about out of the country. Put him on a manned mission to the sun.

          • I’ve been saying this for years. Obama laughs at the people who think he cares about his “legacy”. He doesn’t care about America and he is on the path he planned to be on. Vote fore “Change” he said…don’t you people remember that???? When everyone in the media is mystified as to why he is “leading from behind”, why he doesn’t follow through with his “Red Line”, why he bows down to the Almighty Islam leaders, why he doesn’t do anything to combat the EVIL that is festering…it is because it is all part of his plan to bring
            AMERICA down…and I mean to BREAK America apart. I sit and watch because there really isn’t anything I personally can do…Obama is consumed with his agenda…to CHANGE
            America…he never said he would make America STRONG…just vote for “change”. I said it before and I’ll say it again…and people think I am totally lost…but that is okay with me. Obama has an Evil spirit within him. He is a Racist, Facist, and wants to bring American people harm.

          • Obama is the real evil, who pretends to be our President.

        • How fast we have forgotten. When the new Administration took office where was all the money being spent? on stupid programs wasn’t that what it was? That’s the reason there is not money and who signed the okay?

          • tinytim,
            The financial crisis that occurred under Bush was a problem for Obama when he came to office. He tried to bail out companies as a means of maintaining our or finances. Since tehn he seems to want to help us become so dependent on the federal government that we jump for joy at more welfare spending. Add to that the huge sums of money that has gone to foreign countries since 2009 and you have a case of the nation getting into debt that it cannot ever repay.

          • Foreign aid is but a pimple when it comes to the budget. Obama did help bailout out companies, and he along with Bush are responsible for helping the auto industry. What I have disagreed with Obama is that those responsible for the crash of Wall Street were never held accountable and they should have The whole idea of the banks being too large to fail – well, both sides were arguing for that, and now the banks are bigger, and with the help of the Republicans they will get rid of all of the laws and regulations and are prohibiting them to crash again.

            One of the problems with deficit when Obama came to office is that the cost of the wars were not figured into the deficit because they funded by contingency funds. They weren’t, in a sense on the books. Obama included the trillions spent on the wars in the deficit. Still, under Obama the deficit has been cut by 52%, which you can check out from independent sources. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/sep/05/barack-obama/obama-says-he-has-cut-national-deficit-half/

          • Mogan,
            Why am I still seeing our national debt at 18 trillion? Yes, some reduction has occurred due to the improved but not yet complete, economic recovery. Why do we have to consider raising the debt ceiling? To pay our debts. Why does Congress not adhere to what the rest of us do – a balanced budget?

      • silly Realty Czech crap. How does it feel to win Jackass of the day for the 9th time in row?

    • BTW, it is called Representative Republic.

    • Sorry, but it is a Representative Republic.

    • What you have with the Freedom Caucus are members of Congress who don’t like the government on principle and don’t want it to work. They campaigned on making certain that Congress wouldn’t do anything. They are not conservatives but radicals. They will probably be responsible for the breakup of the Republican party. The government can not work with bipartisan cooperation, but for them that is just an ugly thought. Bipartisanship means compromise, but since they hate the government and they don’t want it to work, they refuse to compromise but want to the Democrats to do it.
      If they were members of Congress in our early history, they would have opposed the Constitution for it was a work of compromise. The same is true for the Declaration.

      • Morgan, not sure what rock you’ve climbed from under, but haven’t had the pleasure of your brilliant intelligence in my threads before. You & RC must be really proud of what your Democrats are accomplishing right now. There’s not one thing that they can actually point to that’s been a real “American” success.
        Your rant about “radicals” is definitely a real hoot, with a socialist, an ancient progressive feminist. a post-RINO who doesn’t even know WHAT he believes…
        Our Congress is BASED on discord, disagreement. That’s why it was never designed to be “bipartisan”, which has mostly digressed into “me-too-ism” where RINOs are trying to out- do, out -compromise the left. That’s why there’s 2 houses of Congress, why the upper house (Senate, since you’ve probably never had HS civics) was never intended to be elected by the general populace.
        You know as well as anyone who is able to read, comprehend & think that when Dems scream “compromise” or “bipartisan” they mean THEIR way or no way.

        • Then the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence have to be rejected by your thinking, since they represent compromises. Our government was based on compromise and bipartisanship. If not, the democracy is a joke and it would have been better to remain with the mother country. Now, I am getting personal. Unlike you, I have had a solid undergraduate, graduate and post graduate education, which clearly you are not. I can only assume that you knowledge of American History and civics comes from right wing ideologues,, who wouldn’t know history if it bit them on their nose.
          the ACA, by the way has turned out to be a success, as well as constitutional, whether you like SCOTUS’ rulings or not. I have disagreed strongly with some of their decisions and reluctance at times to take on some cases, but touch luck for me and for you. And when it comes to bipartisanship, this I find as a weakness with the Democrats, they are willing to compromise and so was Obama, but the from day one the Republicans decided to oppose anything that Obama would propose, even if it is their own ideas. And for those Republicans who don’t want compromise, then they really want to end the government. It is they who want their way or no way.
          Now, if we do get a Republican president, I would hope that the Democrats would stop play by the rules and do what the Republicans have done – oppose any program, etc., brought by the Republican president. Be like the Republicans and be willing to ruin the country’s credit rating and cause millions to suffer for the sake of principles.

          • 1st, more than anything, Morgan, they refused to set up a “democracy” as they saw what it was doing in France/Europe – becoming anarchy or tyranny as it always does – and set up a Federal Republic.
            If you read about the multiple people involved, yes, there was compromise, but the CORE was simply the Virginia Plan, which never changed. Unlike today’s shrilling Leftists, they also were “man” enough to listen, argue, disagree, fight, yet they, well, most of them, were willing to listen to others and seek the best for the country. Leftists/Progressives don’t allow for public discourse or any decent from their steamroller to socialism. Just look at Obama with his “executive orders”, ruling by fiat, to circumvent Congress & even law. Look at Clinton’s – emails, servers & blow-jobs then arguing what the meaning of “is” is. How did the LBGT gang operate? Definitely not through democracy, but through fiat through the hand-picked judiciary. Now, look at the IRS & even the AG. Are they blindly following law and precedent? No, they again hand-pick what laws they’ll follow, who they’re going to target.
            This is not even democracy! It’s rule by fiat, whatever the shrills whine loudest about! Whomever can get the most attention of the mainstream media & picked judiciary!

      • Freedom Caucus Members OPENLY support the US Constitution, SMALL government, open and accountable government (opposite of what we currently have and supports the T Party. They don’t hate government. They despise the form of tyranny and trashing of the US Constitution, increased debt, and irresponsible behavior of our current administration.
        Our Congressman is one of the Freedom Caucus members and he ROCKS! He NOT playing ball with the old GOP… That’s fine with us here.

        • All of them have run as anti-government candidates. They prefer to shut down the government if they don’t get their way. As for the deficit, it is down by 48%, and that you can check. There has been no trashing of the Constitution. Frankly, when you don’t get your way, that is not tyranny, just the losing side of issues.

          • I support shutting down the government 100%! I am TIRED of paying tax $$$ that is taken from MY children and MY family to support slaughtering unborn children!
            I am sick and tired of having the government take MY hard earned money to support illegal aliens.
            I am DOUBLE sick and tired of ALL the ways MY hard earned money is WASTED!
            This is PC Bull shit and it’s time it ended!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Tyranny is the jerk we currently have in the white house.
            If you can honestly say that without a smirk on your face about the constitution, then frankly you have NOT studied American history, or the US constitution or else you flunked out of school….
            Tyranny IS FORCING Christians to pay for abortion!
            Tyranny IS FORCING someone to buy healthcare.
            Tyranny IS Forcing someone to NOT pray in public.

            Tyranny IS Obama..

          • Frankly, I am not a loser like you. Now of my constitutional rights have been take away or abridged. No federal money goes to abortions, and I wish it would. I am sick an tired of provide tax subsidies to corporations when they don’t need the money. Illegal aliens – well they are taxpayers. If you are tired about people on welfare, the majority are white.

            By your reasoning, tyranny is forcing Americans without children to pay taxes for the education of other people’s children.

            Tyranny is forcing to pay income taxes.

            Tyranny is forcing Christian pacifists to pay taxes that goes to the military

            Tyranny would be forcing prayer in public schools. Not every American is a Christian, Muslim or Jew who believe in prayer. There are native born Americans whose religions do not include prayer.

            Tyranny is forcing nonChristians to follow Christian based laws.

            Tyranny is when ignorant Americans persecutre Americans whose religion is not theirs.

            No one is forcing anyone to pay for abortions. That is illegal, although I wish it wasn’t.

            Tyranny is forcing drivers to buy car insurance and have a driver’s license.

            Tyranny is when members of Congress want to halt the government. Now, you want to shutdown the government and that will never really happens. SS checks will go out, the military will be paid, and also Congress. But, if you want a government shutdown, then you must be willing to
            shut down military operations and cancel pay.
            In fact, shut down the military period.
            shut down the FAA and therefore the arlines.
            shut down the FBI, CIA, Border Patrol and you can fill in the rest.
            shut down all funding of medical and scientific research
            shut down Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, the Center for Disease Control
            shut down on federal inspectors.
            shut down every function of the Post Office.
            shut down all federal money going to the states, particular those who take more federal money than they contribute.
            I’m sure we can add most to the list – but what you want to do is actually shut down the country. But if you really want to shut down the government – then you have to really mean it; and that means shutting it down, not slowing it down.

            As for illegal aliens – well, like most of what you wrote, you just show your self to be uneducated and just plain ignorant.

            Collectively, illegal aliens paid an estimated $10.6 billion to state and local taxes in 2010, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), a research organization that works on tax policy issues. Contributions varied by state. In Montana they contributed $2 million. In California, more than $2.2 billion. On average they pay about 6.4% of their income in state and local taxes, ITEP said.

            Illegal aliens contribute more in payroll taxes than they will ever consume in public benefits. When it comes to Social Security, according to the Social Security.illegal aliens- who are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits — have paid $100 billion into the fund over the past decade.

            “They are paying an estimated $15 billion a year into Social Security with no intention of ever collecting benefits,” Stephen Goss, chief actuary of the SSA told CNNMoney. “Without the estimated 3.1 million undocumented immigrants paying into the system, Social Security would have entered persistent shortfall of tax revenue to cover payouts starting in 2009,” he said.

            As the baby boom generation ages and retires, immigrant workers are key to shoring up Social Security and counteracting the effects of the decline in U.S.-born workers paying into the system, Goss said. So, if you get rid of illegal aliens, there goes Social Security and huge amount of payroll taxes.

            Illegal aliens do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years.

            The belief that immigrants take jobs that can otherwise be filled by hard-working Americans has been disputed by an overwhelming number of economic research studies and data. Plus, if we get rid of the 8 million illegal aliens that are working, that does mean that there will be 8 million job openings. That comes from the right wing Cato Institution. Why? First removing millions of undocumented workers from the economy would also remove millions of entrepreneurs, consumers and taxpayers. The economy would actually lose jobs. Second, native-born workers and immigrant workers tend to possess different skills that often complement one another.

            Immigrants, regardless of status, fill the growing gap between expanding low-skilled jobs and the shrinking pool of native-born Americans who are willing to take such jobs.

            What about just following the law, deport them and then get in line? Right now, there are very few options for legal immigration, the costs are increasingly prohibitive and the wait for any kind of status can be long and frustrating. Depend on the country, your waiting in line can that 15 to 25 years. Exceptions can be made for those seeing political asylum or being sponsored by an an employer, family member, etc.

            Now, I could go further and that would lead to personal attacks or criticism, but I won’t do that. However thinking it all over, since you dead set on ending the federal government, then perhaps you would wise to end the United States and let each state go its own way. Fortunately, you don’t represent the majority of Americans.

          • 1) While much is said about the benefits that immigrants bring to this country, most of the experts agree that immigrants,particularly illegal ones,are a net loss. In a survey of 13 studies on the costs and benefits of immigration, the U.S. General Accounting Office
            found only one that showed a net gain to states.
            Illegal aliens are costing US taxpayers billions of dollars every year. Illegals are costing Ohio taxpayers nearly $900 million a year and they are not a state with some of the highest concentrations of illegals.
            Besides the financial cost of illegals, they do take jobs away from
            Americans as was proven in 2011 when Alabama enforced their new immigration laws. Within two months of the law going into effect, the unemployment rate in Alabama dropped 1.1% as a direct result in thousands of illegals leaving the state.
            In hosting America’s largest population of illegal immigrants,
            California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.
            When people talk about illegal immigration, one of the biggest concerns raised is how much illegal immigrants are actually costing the American taxpayer. But it is not on the federal government, but rather on the states where the burden of illegal immigration is the
            most profound. For while much of the taxes that immigrants pay goes to Washington, the burden for services falls in great part on
            the state through numerous entitlement programs, health care costs and education. I teach at a high school with 1700 students. Due to the diversity, we have 70 different languages spoken by our students. Any idea how many MILLIONS of dollars it costs the school district to hire interpreters for just this one school alone??

            2) Illegals are also posing a health hazard. A drug
            resistant strain of tuberculosis has been found in a number of
            illegals. This strain of TB has a mortality rate of up to 60% in some
            sectors of the population. In addition to TB, illegals have carried
            Dengue Fever, chicken pox and various strains of influenza including H1N1 swine flu.
            3) America is also facing a bankruptcy type debt with a deficit of over $200 trillion dollars and growing higher every day. If we can’t afford to pay to take care of ourselves, we certainly can’t afford to take care of illegals.

            3) Percentage of welfare recipients by race:
            Black-39.8%White-38.8%Hispanic-15.7%Other-3.3%Asian-2.4%
            Remember, Blacks account for ONLY 13.2 % of entire US population. Therefore, a disproportional number of black are receiving welfare benefits.

            4) That is YOUR definition of tyranny. Tyranny: arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority.
            Synonyms: despotism, absolutism, dictatorship.
            Forcing ANYONE to pay for slaughter of unborn children is not only tyrannical, but should be punishable by SEVERE consequences. NO ONE should EVER be force to pay for another person’s murdering of their unborn. If you honestly believe American tax $$ do not pay for abortions, you are either ignorant, misguided or naive. There is significant data proving your statement is incorrect.

            5) Shutting down the government will NOT shut down essential offices. That is a fallacy and scare tactic being spewed forth. IE: military, military pay, Social Security is considered mandatory, so beneficiaries should not worry about whether or not they are going to receive their checks in the mail. The Office of Personnel Management has issued guidance that no federal employees may be on leave during a government shutdown.
            Federal employees are deemed either “essential” or “non-essential”
            during a government shutdown. Transportation Security Administration employees fall into the former group, so those looking to travel will still be able to wait through exhaustive airport security lines. So are air traffic controllers, so planes likely will still fly during a shutdown.
            The Internal Revenue Service will continue to process payments through a government shutdown, according to its 2014 contingency plan.Individuals currently being audited by the IRS may get a momentary breath of fresh air as the agency suspends all audit functions.
            Much like Social Security, funding for Medicare and Veterans Affairs are mandatory and are not subjected to congressional appropriation.
            The Department of Health and Human Services will furlough a percentage. A lack of appropriations will limit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s ability to respond to outbreak investigations. However, National Institutes of Health employees would continue to treat current Clinical Center patients and provide animal care services.
            While about half of the CIVILIAN defense workers will be furloughed, all active-duty troops will continue to work next week regardless of congressional action or inaction. The U.S. Postal Service will also continue to deliver mail, as the agency is independent from the federal government.

            6) Easy to remove illegals. Just like every other time America has faced a severe recession, the number of illegals crossing into the US drops. Every time America enforces immigration laws, the number of illegals drops. Shut off the money spigot and a high proportion will head for greener pastures. No driver’s license, no welfare, no voting, makes it easy to send illegals packing. This has been proven consistently over time.

            So please, 1) do not make arbitrary and irrational assumptions about what someone else may think, do or know. Secondly, learn the facts first. Unfortunately too many Americans are not knowledgeable about the facts and run on pure emotion.

  3. “These 40 or 50 legislators act as a third party, unwilling to cooperate on even the smallest compromises.”

    If these compromises are so small and insignificant, why doesn’t the opposition, the Rinos and the D’rats, concede the point and move on.
    Its because the concession means collapse of the opposing/conceding view and Rinos and D’rats are not about to concede that anything the conservatives desire is acceptable

    • right …now if we can get gowdy or a cruz as speaker and trump as president then we can put the U.S. back on track

      • Wrong, dude. We The Sheeple are clueless since giving up their right to self governance in 1903. But We The People, Christian patriots who ARE the Militia (and about 100,000,000 strong), are needing a leader to help us regain our power and take the country back. Ross Perot betrayed the Militia. Pat Buchanan betrayed the Militia. Ralph
        Nader betrayed the Militia. Ron Paul betrayed he Militia. And Donald Trump is going to betray us as well. He didn’t even mention the Militia in his “gun control” plan. How ignorant is that?

        • well you better hope he don’t because he’s the only chance the U.S. has of getting back on track and getting these illegals out of this country and closing our borders and you no he no’s more about getting our economy back on track he will create jobs at least…besides look at what all those prof.politions got us …time for an out sider that’s not a trained poli and one that don’t own anybody anything so they can’t make him do anything he don’t want to do…go trump 2016

          • Your ignorance of “well regulated Militias” and how our constitutional republic works is not surprising since “original intent” of the U.S. Constitution isn’t taught anymore. Are you a product of the dumbing-down zombie factories called the public fool system?

    • “that anything the conservatives desire is acceptable”

      THAT would be the issue, conservative ideas are completely unacceptable.
      and usually involve DE-funding ACA or restricting women’s rights.
      jobs, not so much.

    • Yes there’s about 40 or 50 good man and Congress the rest from the White House all the way through the judiciary are nothing but scum bag horrors of the money don’t care about anything but yourself don’t care about the American people and believe that they are elitist and they know better for everybody why got news for him we didn’t why our lives an alarm for these assholes it done nothing but steal from the American people for years to go over there and make us a Third World country

  4. Michael Dennewitz

    At this point and time, ONLY A WELL TRAINED SNIPER could change it all!!!

  5. It’s simple, really……..Congress is corrupt, and the “great unwashed” don’t seem to care. So,….it will just keep getting worse and worse until it gets so bad we don’t want to live here anymore but find we aren’t allowed to leave….sound familiar??

    • Oh, it might come to an end when we keep on electing people who refuse to make the government work, that refuse bipartisanship and refuse to make any compromises.

  6. Boehner was/is a venal, lying POS.

    Anyone who could say he has “extraordinary conservative credentials” is either lying, deluded or been sitting with Crying Johnnie too long in the bar.

    • He’s just a drunk who held onto his job for years with his connections with other Congressional drunks and lobbyists!

    • that’s exactly right they need to bring that idiot up on charges of treason to the American people

      • He hasn’t committed treason. I’m not fond of Boehner, but when dealing with a faction of his party that doesn’t want to the government to work, well that gives the speaker a hard time. When it comes down to it the RINOS are the true conservatives but those alligned to the Tea Party are radicals, not conservatives.

  7. On the heels of chaos comes clarity.

  8. They are all traitors in my book. And since the TeaParty “leaders” are false/controlled opposition, I’ll believe it when I see it. We The Sheeple are clueless since they gave up their right to self governance in 1903. But We The People, Christian patriots who ARE the Militia and about 100,000,000 strong, are needing a leader to help them take the country back. Ross Perot betrayed us. Pat Buchanan betrayed us. Ralph Nader betrayed us. Ron Paul betrayed us. And Donald Trump is going to betray us.

    • You seem to be looking for Bernie Sanders.

      Bernie is the man to bring the country together.

      and he has an impeccable pedigree beside being pro gun.

      he has held the same “positions” for the past 30 years.

      AND voted no on:

      Repeal of Glass Steagull

      the Patriot act

      The First Iraq invasion

      The Second Iraq invasion

      Nafta

      TPP.

      • Bernie Sanders will cut defense even more than Obummer, and get us all killed. There is an article in IEEE Spectrum (the journal for electronics engineering) of March 2009 discussing our “Disappearing Deterrent” of old and degrading missile arsenal. Your Jackass-in-Chief wants to degrade it further, so we will be helpless against a nuclear threat. Add to that Obummer’s remark to Putin that he would have more flexibility after re-election and you have a recipe to get us all killed. Under Obama our arsenal has gone from 5000 warheads to 1500, and we don’t know if those 1500 will work as intended or at all.
        So keep smirking and condescending to “ignorant folks” when you are the biggest ignoramus of all. In addition, you have won the Jackass of the Day award for about the 6th time. BRAYYYYYY…hee-haw !!!

        • only the moron right think we need enough nukes to blow up the world MORE than 100 times.

          “Under Obama our arsenal has gone from 5000 warheads to 1500,”

          I am now going to prove the Dan is a VACANT MEAT SACK who LIES for the Right.

          we currently have 7100 warheads

          http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

          maybe Dan can prove he’s not a moron?

          THIS kind of LYING is why I tend to not believe a word out of a con mouth mouth

          • I REPLIED WITH LINKS AND YOU CITE THE ONE LINK THAT IS TRYING TO UNILATERALLY DISARM AMERICA, JACKASS.

            plus you modified your original post after I rebutted it. Youand DISQUS have a problem with your editing and censoring, don’t you/?

          • hate to break your bubble.
            I didn’t change the post.

            your just low functioning most of the time.

          • you wrote: “only the moron right think we need enough nukes to blow up the world MORE than 100 times.”

            If I agree with your premise I’d have o agree with your conclusion, but I don’t. The reason for so many warheads is to make sure that a few of them survive in case we are attacked. Redundancy is for good reason, not because we want to increase shock and awe

            I am tired of your egomaniac personality, Mister Poop-Head. Good bye to you. BTW, I have worked in defense, and you have not, so please stop bullsh*tting and pretending that just because you can frantically speed-read Wikipedia that you understand the topic.

          • I think you’re tired of me proving you to be ignorant.
            Face it, you say one thing, I prove the opposite to be true.

            this has been going on for weeks.
            at some point you have to feel crushed and worthless.

            STOP LYING will help.

          • ” just because you can frantically speed-read Wikipedia that you understand the topic.”
            actually it’s because I am well traveled, well read, and not brainwashed by right wing Propaganda like you cons.

        • you still looking for something to back up your LIES Dan?

      • Uhh…no thanks. I want real men to be POTUS, not emasculated men who vote for babies to be murdered in the womb or let sodomites roam free. Bernie Sanders is also a traitor for allowing the ineligible Moslem infidel, Barry Soetoro (BS) to run for POTUS and take office — TWICE. For not speaking out, BS (coincidence?) is a coward just like the rest of Congress.

        • Funny that you pretend to be religious and not aware that “life” does not begin until the human breathes God Air.

          “Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the
          ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the
          man became a living being.” Genesis 2:7

          maybe you can post a passage to prove otherwise

          • I typically ignore Democrats and liberals who are “not of God.” See you on Judgment Day and we’ll find out which one of us was correct in our beliefs.

          • so that would be a NO,
            you can’t provide scripture to prove the beginning of life.

            so I guess mine will stand.

          • WRONG, AND I JUST TOLD YOU WHY, JACKASS.

          • You ignorant POS – there are ultrasounds that PROVE THE INFANT HEART IS BEATING almost at the very beginning of conception. THERE HAS TO BE A BEATING HEART FOR THERE TO BE LIFE. True the passage you cite declared that the FIRST MAN had been “breathed” to life by God – but you haven’t a clue why, do you? Since the first man was made from dirt and WASN’T BORN OF WOMAN, how else to you think God would bring him to life? I suppose tho, that he could have wiggled his nose like Bewitched!

            Why don’t you take your disgusting ignorant a$$ back to the dumba$$ underground where I’m sure you will be appreciated. You can’t even understand what you read in the Bible, IF in fact, you READ! You’re a sick and disgusting individual and I will not waste another second on your ignorant ramblings. Blather all you want, I will simply delete any sign of a “response” from you! You have nothing further to say that would interest me.

          • Well Dim con, we are debating the “beginning of life” as pertains to the Christian bible.

            as for science,
            NO hospital will try and save a fetus under the age of 23 weeks.

            as for the bible,
            I post SCRIPTURE and YOU flap your gums.

            I guess my scripture stands as the beginning of life per the BIBLE.

          • the beginning of ONE SPECIAL life, Jug-Head. That is the message of that bible verse. Why don’t you get a head with some brains in it?

          • NO ONE has posted anything from the bible that is better.
            AND there are plenty of bible hugging nuts around here.

            so I guess it holds till the silly religious nuts prove different.

          • He not only misquotes the Bible, he has the same contempt and disregard for the dictionary. As do most liberals who throw around words like “racist” in complete disregard for the accepted meaning.

          • YOU are a Racist.

          • and YOU are a sh*t-head.

          • maybe you can cease to be so self-congratulating, because the verse you cite proves no such conclusion. once again, you quote bible when you try to prove a point and take out of context. The verse talked abut God breathing life into Adam, and that event happened only once to one person. It does NOT, repeat NOT, excuse abortion.

            For the 7th time now, we award you Jackass of the Day.

        • Are you actually using commie bernie’s initials to imply he’s full of it? Just sayin’. 😉

          • MIGHT AS WELL IMPLY IT…..but it is true…BS is Bernie Sanders. Of course BS is also Hillary and Pocahontas (Liz Warren, another liar).

            “An anti-Islam video caused Benghazi events”….guess which liars pushed THAT BS? Hint: Obama and Hillary. That one lie alone should cost them their freedom. Forget about emails. We all heard the lie with our own ears and eyes…because the lie was broadcast in real time on every TV network. (Of course the MSM tried later to slither out of it, telling us we can’t believe our own lying eyes and ears).

          • With the State Militias in place, we can arrest the traitors and put them on trial for their crimes against US.

      • and of course higher taxes. Reagan had an ASTUTE comment; he said his problem with democrats is not just that hey raise taxes, but that they ENJOY IT.

        RC PROVES IT VERY TIME HE OPENS HIS TRAITOR’S MOUTH

    • “they gave up their right to self governance in 1903”

      what the fuck are you talking about?

  9. There is a change coming but not the change you speak of . Demographics show the nation is moving away from either end of the political landscape to the middle . Both Dems & Repubs are being left behind and there is nothing either party can do to stop this !!! The old & uneducated that back the repubs are dying for and the young & educated are being measured in their views . This leaves the middle of the landscape the only place to be , if you want to make change in America it will have to be change that 70% of the citizens can live with !!!

    • That would be Bernie Sanders.

      • Yeah there RC, Hitler was a socialist too.

        • unfortunately for the Dim con, Bernie is a Democratic Socialist.
          I don’t think there is a “socialist” country in existence.

          why is catman so friggin ignorant?

          • you want to separate evil into pigeon holes like socialist, communist, democratic socialist, fascist, etc.

            But evil is like porn…you can’t succinctly specify it, but you know it when you see it.

          • You are right, the major nations are a mixture of capitalism and socialism; there is no purely socialist country. Problem with so many people on this website, they don’t really know what socialism is. They won’t go to any sources, other than those that that are filled with lies.

        • he was indeed, a National Socialist (NAZI)

          • silly con
            Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part
            to enslave the population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in
            part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’. More on the early Nazis.

            The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create.
            Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around
            race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler
            aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses,
            into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it.

            http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100261121/hitler-wasnt-a-socialist-stop-saying-he-was/

          • idiot jackass, Naziism was centered around government control. It doesn’t mater what assets are being controlled. What is repugnant is the control freak aspect of socialism, over-regulation, or communism. .

          • Problem with your statements is that the US is a mixture of socialism and capitalism, just like all of the major nations. You don’t want socialism, then get rid of the federal highway system, Social Security, Medicare, the VA entirely. You will need to get rid of federal loans for college students.

          • But who did he put into the camps first, socialists and communists, then gays, gypsies and Jews.

        • Not only was Hitler not a socialist himself, nor a
          communist, but he actually hated these ideologies and did his utmost to
          eradicate them. At first this involved organizing bands of thugs to
          attack socialists in the street, but grew into invading Russia, in part
          to enslave the population and earn ‘living ‘ room for Germans, and in
          part to wipe out communism and ‘Bolshevism’. More on the early Nazis.

          The
          key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create.
          Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around
          race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler
          aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses,
          into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it.

          http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100261121/hitler-wasnt-a-socialist-stop-saying-he-was/

      • Because Che Guevera was otherwise occupied fermenting.

  10. Good riddance to Bohner, & hopefully Obammie and his death to American Freedom regime. Letting every illegal, muslim, & miscreant crawl over our unsecured borders, emptying prisons of 5,000. drug dealers while he shames us for arming ourselves to keep us from getting slaughtered, reminicent in the days of Hitler.

  11. The changes come start with getting rid of McConnell in all his little cronies in Congress and the Senate these are not people care about the people pleaser people care about yourself and think that there elitist who think you’re too stupid to make any decisions which they think like the communist as elitist

    • But you want to put into Congress that who simply hate government. They don’t want it to work. They take Reagan to the extreme – if government is the problem, end the government.

  12. “Fed up with lies, fed up with an unstoppable liberal tyrant, and fed up with spineless RINOs, conservatives are ready to burn the party to the ground if it means a phoenix might rise from the ashes ”
    That’s says it all, couldn’t be said any better and hits the mark straight on. These power hungry establishment GOP types are in for a big surprise come election time. They aren’t going anywhere but down. They’re not going to be able to lies their way past the American people this time. If they are not honestly going to represent their constituents, then why have them around.

  13. I think that most Republicans believe that our representatives in Washington are playing both sides on many important issues. We also feel that the elite of the representatives dominate how we deal with the leftist Obama government. I think term limits should be seriously addressed. Many of our Senators and Congressmen have outlived their usefulness to the people who elected them. P

  14. The big ship is making the turn. The sooner RINOs figure out the 2016 is all about stopppng the CRAT invasion of future socialist from Mexico and Central America the better. 2016=Wall+Deport+ReduceLegalImmigrationAlso.

    Resist in 2016 or give the crats a supermajority forever…it is very simple abd that is why crats are breaking every law to win.

  15. EXTERMINATE the DNC and EVERY LIBTURD , IN the Country

    • A good bug spray like Home Defense ought to do it….if sprayed on their copy of Mein Kampf or their Wiccan’s handbook..

  16. I watched a local news forum last night on this very issue. Three of our four Congressional delegation are conservative but old school GOP. The fourth one is Tea Party. He does not get along with the other three. He wants action and the others want to try to demonstrate more across the aisle diplomacy. They are more patient. While I can side with the three who seem to agree with each other, I am getting impatient with the lack of putting forth meaningful legislation. But the House IS passing legislation and the Senate is stalling it because of the threat of a veto. McConnell seems to be the source of the problem.

  17. America has no real President, just that scum Obama, and he is no President.

  18. IllBeYour Huckleberry

    No one would question former house leader bonner conservative credentials? What a joke! If I understood this article correctly it is dripping of Liberal bias. Less of course it is sarcastic throughout. Id wager liberal bias. Careful of the liberals peddling fake conservative news.

    • Boehner was a conservative, but not a radical fanatic who wanted to the government to come to a grounding halt, period.

      • IllBeYour Huckleberry

        He was a liberal lap dog on almost everything, including spend happy as you mentioned. Hardly a conserver of anything but rather a roadblock for conservatives at ending the liberal corruption.

  19. when that clown is out of the white house then change will come, we will be country again. I hope the scum leaves and take all those illegals and Muslim with him.

  20. Pray that more people wake up from politicians that are looking for themselves. And by the way, NO NO NO to Ryan as Speaker. Swallow that one.

  21. What the Republican party needs to do is get rid of the “girly men” and get some guys with balls! Let’s get back to traditional GOP values, and kick those cowardly liberals where it counts! The liberals sure wouldn’t like me if I were in congress, because I’m more of a man that any of them could ever hope to be!

  22. The Republicans need to play by the same tough rules of the Dems. Dems change the rules in the senate to suit themselves. Use the nuclear option on them. We can pass an important bill with a little give away attached that will be popular with DDs (dependent Dems). When Obama refuses to sign the bill, blame and blame and blame constantly. We need another Delay.

  23. i move we take a vote since this country was formed by the people ,for then people with the people,lets hold a special election ,for or against,oboma-for or aganst,hillary ,this is still our country lets let them know that we know that.

  24. I have to disagree that Boehner and McCarthy have “extraordinary conservative credentials” the way they were working with the pResident on going around Congress on important issues. That’s not what a conservative is all about.

  25. James Moe Morency

    “Both Boehner and McCarthy have extraordinary conservative credentials. No one would question either man’s principles.” Where the hell did that come from? Conservatives have been questioning their principles for years, that’s why one resigned and the other should be voted out!

  26. I am not sure “conservatives” are ready to burn the house to the ground, but the regular people I encounter in America are ready to rise up and kill ALL elected officials in the federal government, including the unelected federal judges. Now personally, I think that is a damned good idea. America has been sold down the river by the two political parties.

  27. The party is so dysfunctional that Republican donors are closing their checkbooks. The kowtowing to the Tea party has left the candidate field unelectable and donors are reluctant to throw their money at losers. The Reagan Republicans need to regain control of the party and moderate it, or it will simply become a minority party.

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