Paul Ryan? They Wouldn’t Dare

If you were a betting man, you would be wise at this point to put your money on the Republicans having a contested convention. With Donald Trump (at press time) looking at a loss in Wisconsin, the path to 1,237 is looking increasingly doubtful for either him or Ted Cruz. John Kasich, of course, doesn’t even have a prayer.

A contested convention could result in many outcomes. The rules for the 2016 convention haven’t even been written yet. Some Trump supporters think the RNC should give him the nomination if he is within a hundred points or so of the clinch. Others argue that the delegate mark is what it is; if Trump can’t bring it home, the party is under no obligation to crown him the winner.

But you would be hard-pressed to find any average American who wants to see the party elders rip the nomination away from the voters. Trump die-hards are going to be upset if Cruz nabs the nomination on a second ballot. The Trump haters will love it. But if the party pulls a fast one and someone like Paul Ryan walks out of Cleveland as the nominee, you are going to see a revolt that Republicans are not ready to handle. While they’re running around, trying to keep their cushy Establishment positions, they might want to spare a glance to the people. If the party becomes obsolete, so too will their lifestyle.

Karl Rove, who has been hoping the party can push the reset button in Ohio, said, “A fresh face might be the thing that would give us a chance to turn this election and win in November against Hillary.”

No, a fresh face will ensure that Obama’s legacy becomes cemented in stone. It’s true: Cruz and Trump both have their issues. It is reasonable to be concerned about how either of them will fare in the general. But a nominee Ryan, a nominee Romney, or a nominee Whoever The Voters Did Not Choose will spell certain doom in November.


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  1. The system is out of hand and needs fixed ,we vote and want our voice to be heard and counted ,we the people elect our president ,GOP the DEMs have made there own rules to stop anyone that is not chosen by them and not by the people, the way it was intended. I will write in Trump and will not vote for anyone you have chosen for me.

    • Thank you ! I will do the Same.I will not vote for any one except Mr.Donald J Trump.If I have to write it in. So be It

      • Then get ready for president Clinton. I understand that you do not like it, but he will not win as a third party or write in candidate.

        • oh yes he will…by millions of voters that hillary cant even come close to.Shes a repeated proven liar committed felonies and treason…plus bought by g soros and nwo criminal bankster fascist psyco nwo.

          • the third party is already formulating its name…the repubs and all the crooked ol establishment crooks will be no more….

          • Right now we are only shooting in the dark…November will bring clarity.

        • what do you have?? A crystal ball

          • This is a place to air opinion and discuss thoughts, which is what I did…disagreement is fine.

        • Kasich HAS TO WIN—Anyone else running is NOT QUALIFIED

          • Thus far most voters in the Republican primaries don’t like Kasich. He may be a nice guy but he is screwing us all right now. The fact that he has stayed in the race despite the mathematical impossibility of winning enough delegates to secure the nomination outright speaks to his selfishness; that coupled to the fact that he is an establishment candidate is enough for me to vote for someone else if he becomes the nominee. The establishment needs to get it through their collective heads: We are sick of their lies and impotence…a Kasich presidency will be business as usual.

          • If Trump or Cruz win,,, Hillary will BEAT both of them!!!So thats why I will vote for him- The majority of voters are among the Un-informed and Ill-Informed- She will win because the voting public is STUPID!!

          • I get the rationale, but the polls said the same thing about Reagan in 1980; perhaps they are right, perhaps not. We don’t know what will happen because people of all political perspectives are angry. Nevertheless I am tired of weak Republican candidates and, if elected, I believe that Kasich will be a weak president who will buckle under the weight of the establishment.

          • I guess I will settle for ANYONE but Hillary or Bernie–

          • Fair enough.

          • I understand that logic, but I am weary of accepting the same old weak candidates that the establishment hand-picks from their stable of worn-out company men.

          • Who then would you like better than whats there??? Paul Ryan- Who else????

          • I don’t like Trump, but it should be either him or Cruz if no one wins the nomination outright. I am tired of the establishment running the show; they had their chance and have screwed us every time. They said “give us the House”‘…we gave them the House and they did nothing except say “give us the Senate.” We gave them the Senate and now what do they say? “Give us the White House and we can do something!” They gave us McCain and Romney while we gave them the House and Senate…why would I believe them now? Right now it appears that the Republicans are about to sell the 2nd amendment for another term in office…unbelievable!

          • The big problem is, that if its Trump or Cruz–then Hillary will be the next president- thats scares the hell out of me–She would be worse than Obama, if thats possible??- This country has gone so far Left and its begining to get worse- thanks to the Un-informed and Ill-Informed among us- The good American culture has gone to POT

          • I understand your thought process and agree that we are in a bind. I do not know if the scenario you described will occur or not, but it is certainly a real possibility. However I do not see the value of continuing the current pattern of weakly conservative Republican president and strongly progessive Democratic president either. Neither option is good, much less ideal.

          • Kasich is my hero. He is helping keep the despicable, blithering bombastic billionaire buffoon from sewing up the nomination, He deserves a medal!

          • Trump,,,Kasich, two sides of the same coin.

          • Medal plate in his head is more like it headstraight up colon.

      • These men did not receive the People’s majority vote:

        John Quincy Adams,Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George H.W. Bush, William Clinton, and George W. Bush.

        You do not elext a President.
        Learn how your government actually works.

    • I am not thrilled by Trump and have to fight the urge to express the same thought as you, only in reverse. It is so tempting to say “I won’t vote for Trump regardless;” however I will vote for Trump even though I do not like him because I believe that a Clinton or Sanders presidency will be the death knell for our country. There is one exception to this and that is if the nominee is someone other than Trump or Cruz: if the establishment chooses someone else then, like you, I will write in a candidate. While this may appear contrary to what I wrote above, the reason for this is that the country is already lost if the establishment gets their way. We need to clearly communicate who is in charge and it should be, indeed it must be, we the people.

      • You do what ever you want ,I cannot vote for Lyin illegal bought and payed for Raphael ,I will write in my vote for the only man i can trust that is Trump.

        • cruz isnt even an American…both parents must be american born to qualify…he does not qualify…

          • And I guess you voted for Obama because his parents were both Americans. WRONG!

          • This is a tired old useless argument. He has already been vetted and proven to be eligible. Trump, himself did it months ago…and said so. The only reason people call Cruz a liar is because Trump started the mantra. The debacle with Carson was started by the head of the Cruz campaign, not Cruz. He was later fired and I often wonder if he was not a mole for the RINOs.

        • It all comes down to this: You only trust Trump and that statement sends shivers down my spine. This disagreement highlights the problem within the race for the Republican nomination and it is why I do not believe that Trump can win as a third party candidate. Simply put, although a large number of conservatives support Trump, far too many conservatives still don’t like him and a significant number of them won’t support him. If Cruz is indeed bought and paid for, which I do not believe to be true, it is people like Trump who did the buying. Trump contributed heavily to Democratic candidates in the past and was proud of it, so personally it is very difficult to vote for the man who, for personal gain, supported candidates and causes which have undermined our country for decades. Nevertheless it is clear that we both despise the establishment, so let’s focus on our common ground…keeping the Democrats out of the White House.

      • Based on their statements and threats, the RNC is obviously in the Clinton camp. I challenge them to prove the inaccuracies of my charges against them. Prove me and my fellow constituents to be wrong and I will loudly and broadly apologize. But, somehow, I don’t think that I’ll need to start composing that apology in the foreseeable future.

    • you voting for someone that isnt on the ticket only ensures the dem party to win and thats the truth it is also the fact that the republican party is counting on we dont want another dem president or dem controlled congress that is why we are in the mess we are in now everyone says it was bush that started the mess well if you look at the facts it was a dem controlled congress that pushed through all the bills not bush so with that said dont vote any representatives up for election in the republican party vote all newby’s in that is the only way we can stop what is going on as I just dont see term limits being pushed through since none of them listen to what the people want

    • Timothy Raffety

      eric12325 I agree with you about writing Trumps name in. I also think that if they ignore our voices and put someone else in as their choice, that it’s time to follow the Second Amendment, as it gives us the right to take up arms against our corrupt government, it says so. what do you think about that.

      • Answer: very little; just one more throwback wingnut venting his spleen.

        • what the fuck have you done for your country asshole, I’ve fought and bled for my U.S. Constitution back in ’68-’70, and I’m a lifetime NRA member, and I’m tired of namby pamy mutherfuckers calling me a wingnut just because I happen to believe in the second amendment, and yes I did spell mutherfucker wrong on purpose. And if I remember right,I didn’t address you, or call people names until you started it. I have cancer and if my country needed me to stand up for her again against the good for nothings up in DC I’d be glad to lay my life down for her, it would be better then dying slowly. So if you think that I’m a throwback wingnut because I believe in a free country unfettered by money hungry corrupt politicians who care nothing about the citizens, but only the power they try to wield over me and mine, then yes I’m mighty damn proud of who I am and of what I’ve done in the U.S. Army back in the day. The conflict might have been wrong, but I went and served because my country asked me to. Now she needs me and others to stand up for her because of name callers like you, who won’t or don’t or can’t see the dire straights we’ll be in in Cruz or Clinton or Sanders become POTUS. So God Bless you and yours, because we all need his blessings.

    • We the People do not elect a President.

      We the Peple have never elected a Presdent.

      The Constitution does not permit us to do so.

      Learn how your government actually functions.

  2. Rove missed it…again. The Republican establishment is not ready for what will happen if they pull a fast one, regardless of their “rules.” They live in a privileged world that is about to come crashing down and that crash cannot come soon enough for many of us.

    • But my bet is that they’ll come out of it MUCH BETTER than we-the-people will. (Something about elites look out for each other on both sides of the same coin).

  3. It disgusts me every time I see Karl Rove quoted as he is basically nothing but a nincompoop. As long as people like Rove are allowed to hang around the GOP will never get back to its original foundations. Solid Conservatism is what wins because it’s the only thing that makes any sense.

  4. SOMEONE PLEASE show Karl Rove…..THE DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. The PEOPLE have made the choices and its the PEOPLE WHO WILL DECIDE WHO IS TO BE PRES. Since the establishment has screwed this up over the years. It will be the People not the elites anymore. You got that.!!!

  6. Bryan W. Carpenter

    If neither Trump nor Cruz comes out as presidential candidate for the republican party, you can write “fine, finish, the END of the republican party. We are fed up with the establishment, the DO NOTHING establishment.

    • A republican establishment party official already said voters don’t choose the presidential nominee, the party does. This will ensure that we will have a democrat controlled White House & congress for the foreseeable future because the Republican Party will cement voters rightful belief that the Republican Party doesn’t represent & care about the voters

      • Let’s see who decides the will of the people. Lets see the consequences should the GOP USURP the Will of the American Voter.. The GOP will cease to exist.

        • We the People do not elect a President.
          We the People have never elected a President.
          We the People cannot elect a President — the Consitution does not permit us to do so.
          Learn how your government actually works.
          There is no “national” election. You vote in a state election.

          These Presidents did not have the vote of The People: John Quincy Adams,Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George H.W. Bush, William Clinton, and George W. Bush

          • You dont get it Margaret no one likes you..You just keep talking to yourself…I will save you a lot of trouble ..Don’t come back on here..Your not welcome..

          • Popularity is a childish need.

            I believe one’s reputation for factuality and truth to be far more important than being liked.

          • Is that all it comes out your toilet bowl mouth is sh!t!!!

          • Once again, nothing but irrational noise coming from your post.

          • LOL.
            Maybe you should try actually looking at facts for a change.

          • More noise, no logic, no truth, absolutely no credibility

          • Learn how your government actually works. Your abject ignorance is an embarassment to all Americans.


          • You simply are not making any sense.


          • It could be your screaming that is the problem.


          • I have had cataract surgery.

            If anything, the all-capitals would make it eveen more difficult for you to read.


          • I agree. Why do they spends millions (billions?) on the primaries if they’re just a show? Oh, maybe its to give the PAC’s a chance to buy off the candidates but they do the “show” to fool the public.

          • No we don’t go by the popular vote. Still in most cases the people vote for the person who wins. The RNC wants to play dickydo and they should say hello to the Whigs.

          • These Presidents did not recieve the popular vote: John Quincy Adams,Rutherford B. Hayes, Benjamin Harrison, George H.W. Bush, William Clinton, and George W. Bush

      • They are about to get the shock of their life.

      • Bryan W. Carpenter

        The republicans seem to forget that George Corley Wallace won five states on a third party ticket. Trump or Cruse could do better.

        • Trump AND Cruz together could do a lot better.

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            Dream team: (mine) Cruz/Walker with Trump Sec. of State with freedom to act and LtCol Allen West Attorney General (his orders, “sick ’em”)(waterboarding approved). Just saying…..

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            No, Col (ret) Allen West for Sec. of Defense!

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            No, I want a retired General for that. Like Gen (Retired) David Petraeus. 🙂

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Excellent suggestion! Petraeus was screwed by the Ogime, so a prominent role in a GOP cabinet would be an excellent resolution to that sorry chapter in his life, plus it would be sweet revenge for the way that the Ogime dumped on him!

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            You read my mind. 🙂

          • Why do you embarrass America with childish name calling?

            That is something most children give up by the 2nd or 3rd grade.

            Why would anyone agree with a adult who is that immature?

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            AKLady, you’re certainly a piece of work. You’re the embarrassment to THINKING Americans (although in your little left-wing covey of wing nuts, you’re probably considered smart as hell. Well, I beg to differ. BTW, where in the previous post (about Petraeus) did I indulge in “name-calling?” I just spoke the Truth; but in your perverted world, Truth is the new hate speech. You can call me “immature,” but I’d say that my long life of world experiences have only contributed to my overall maturity. Deal with it or reject it; your opinion only confirms what I’ve always known about the Left: basically, it’s a mental disorder (M. Savage).

          • It is called education, facts and common sense.

            Your truth is what you decide to make it.

            Patraeus violated the UCMJ. He was convicted of Conduct Unbecoming an Officer.

            Well, Ms. Joy. I am a physician. I servied as an Officer in the U.S. Army.

            Hence, I am fully aware of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

            The UCMJ is publisned on line,. Feel free to read it. Military law is significanltly different from civilian law in many ways.

            Adultery is a crime. It is prosecuted as Conduct Unbecoming and Officer (50 years ago it would have read Officer and Gentleman).
            Loss of rank and discharge from the servie is the usual punishment.

          • Your reply was delted. “Ogime” is childish name calling.

            Petraeus’ adulterous affair with Paula Broadwell represented a serious threat to American security. It put him in a position to be blackmailed by an enemy.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            I thought “Ogime” was rather clever! “Regime” refers to the Administration and adding “O” to it only IDs it further. Anyway, I’ve been using it for the past several years, so I’ll only stop when BHO moves out of the White House. The Petraeus affair only served as an excuse to denigrate a military leader that didn’t follow The One as slavishly as O expected. After all, BHO has been a one-man wrecking crew on the US Military, having relieved many of the most effective officers if they didn’t roll over for his feckless policies. And after all the Hillary shenanigans with those emails & the infamous private server, I’d say that Petreaus’ biographer presented far less – in any – danger to National Security. But you’re right about that affair putting Petraeus “in a position to be blackmailed by an enemy:” He was blackmailed by Obama!

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Maybe it’s just me, but I’d say that what West was saying was hardly “blithering nonsense!” Can you phrase things better or more accurately?

          • Blithering nonsense is exactly what West was vomiting.
            Obama did something that should have been done decades ago. Cuba represents 50 years of failed American policy.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Opening relations with Cuba will only continue to enrich the murderous Castro kleptocracy and now quite a few of BHO’s wealthy donors who will be first in line to establish some American monopolistic corporations and enterprises. The people will remain imprisoned, poor and pretty much shat upon as they have been ever since they kicked out Batista – another despot, but not nearly as universally despotic as the Castro regime. But BHO wants to empty Gitmo and give back that land to Cuba (i.e., no longer pay rent for the property). At the very least, BHO should have made MANY demands on behalf of the downtrodden Cuban people; but, of course, he just waltzed in unilaterally and made overtures that will line the pockets of the already wealthy Cuban politburo.. BTW, American policy was a failure, all right, vis-a-vis the dreadful condition of the ordinary Cuban citizen; it would have been better for everyone concerned if we had overthrown the Castro regime as we attempted, but failed, to do in the aborted Bay of Pigs mission.

          • Cuba has not accepted rent for Gitmo since Bastista left office. The
            US aided Castro’s takeover by stopping aid to the Batista government.

            Fifty years of isolationism forced on Cuba by America has not done anything to change their government.

            American tourism will expose the Cuban people to life outside of their island nation.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Well, now that’s news to me! I was under the impression (from people whose opinions & knowledge I usually respect) that the USA’s payment of rent (in the millions) is what kept the Castros relatively quiet, because the income was a vital necessity (maybe only to line their pockets, as I subsequently learned that Fidel & Raul are two of the wealthiest men in this hemisphere – i.e., in the neighborhood of $2B – $4B in their personal exchequer). And yes, everyone who was alive (and in school) at the time knew all about US aid and comfort to the new Castro regime – that is, before it went full commie and engaged the terrorist, Che Guevara, to carry out countless death raids and hundreds/thousands of political kills. Some hero for the kids…

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            They had plenty of tourists from the Eastern Bloc and the former USSR back in the day, but a fat lot of good THAT did to the island nation. Besides, when gringos & other Westerners visit Cuba, they stay in places and shop in places that only accept Western currency – and hence, are off-limits to the natives. As long as the iron fist of the Castros and their murderous gov’t are in charge, any sort of true freedom & personal liberty – including a market-based economy – are verboten and would only challenge the hegemony of the communist regime. Any sort of meaningful exchange would be tightly controlled by leaders who want no part of the sort of personal freedoms that are the everyday lot of most Westerners.

          • Obama waltzed in like a true communist — the upper crust does not give a damn about the common man.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            You got that one right! The rules of the Party are for the little people – the masses; meanwhile, the rulers – the elites – live high on the hog and by totally other rules!

          • never to late to NUKE the commie foks… 😛

          • what room U hiding in @ the DNC Troll ???

          • Lets help Cuba…ship our traitors/quislings/terrorists to GITMO and donate the dead bodies to Cuban pig farmers.

          • The Rodeo Clowns site, what do you expect?

          • You have not yet paid for the last two unecessary wars. Which country should America barrow money from for another useless war?

          • Except they can’t get along after all the mudslinging. It’s really too bad that the people don’t have a clue about politics in America. It’s as corrupt as every other Third World dictatorship.

          • momma liked her commie blacksnake… now the country is FOKED !

          • How ling did it take you to photoshop this obsenity?

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Who was “Marcy Stone?!?” From what I’ve read (in MANY sources), that DEFINITELY is a nude photo of Stanley Ann Dunham, who also frolicked with Frank Marshall Davis, an accused pedophile and general philanderer (hence the very strong and credible rumor that Davis was actually BHO’s birth father). BTW, how do YOU know Dunham’s chest size?

          • Aklady is a idiot..And great point by the way..She not his real mother by the way..He was born thailand and drop off in Hawaii..And she adopted Barry…And had sex with the dad and played it off to him and acted like she was pregnant..And then he went to Kenya and Indonesia so on..

          • You need to go back on your medication.

          • And you need to hop in your wheel chair and find the biggest hill and coast!!!!

          • That sounds like fun. I’ll have to try it, when and if I ever need a wheelchair.

          • Your in wheel chair Margaret..Your old picture tells all..Your a hag and filthy and stink like ass and pit just like your sister Hitlery..And i hope you do find the biggest hill or flight of stairs and roll..

          • What old picture might that be? There are no pictures of me on the Internet.

            I am a diability advocate. A non-attorney who assists the injured and disabled to obtain the benefits they are entitled to.

            Who is this “Margaret” you think you are isnulting?

          • You know the. little picture in the corner you used with a fat old hag with justice scales…And i can find everything about you if i wanted Margaret in 1 minute on my phone easy..But i would pass i look at ya ugly head i turn to stone or pillar of salt like i look at madusa…ughhh

          • Just like you was a war hero in vietnam…F N LIAR!!!!

          • Liar ,,lies lies and more lies..prove it prove it !!!

          • One would think a guy could at least figure out which of the women has larger breasts.

            Gee, are you blind?

          • I can see ..I can see through you that’s for sure..I see a treasonous traitor of thee United States of Amerika..

          • And lose your logo Marg..You don’t stand for nothing to do with your logo..Your a fake fo real..

          • I have no idea who you are talking about,

            The nude in the picture is Marcy Moore a pun-up model. She was a quite famous porn star in the 1950s

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Well, since I don’t know about Marcy Pinup – and certainly can’t verify the provenance of that photo – I’ll just have to pass on your assertion. But I’ve also seen several other photos of Dunham as a young woman, then wife & mother (with that Soetero fellow in Indonesia), and they all bear the very same resemblance to the nude photo and each other. I’m curious why the photo was ID’d as BHO’s mother – and no one at the time (a couple years ago) refuted that claim! Well, as they say, I wasn’t there…

          • bit early for your dumbass to be out of hibernation…

          • You are advertising your ignorance for the world to see. You are embarassing all Americans with your vulgar stupidity.

          • go back into hibernation,nasty old sow… 😛

          • Like I said, chest size says it all. You must be blind.

          • Oh, just one more pesky fact — those pictures were published in Exotique. That magazine was only in business from 1955 to 1959.

            Obama’s mother was born in 1942. The woman in that picture is al lot older than 17, let alone 13.

        • Wallace’s candidacy proved one thing, namely that here were a lot of clueless voters, but not enough to elect him. Cruz or Trump will learn the same lesson.

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            If your head were truly on straight, you’d know that the clueless voters are the ones like the ones in Chicago. A gun free zone with the highest murder by gun rate in America. They are people who are more interested in self than country. Right now, democrats are deliberately destroying America’s sovereignty, military, and Christian values. They are working to replace Christianity with Satan’s religion, islam.

          • Now we have your opinion. Well, hot diggity dawg! Congratulations on that absurd stretch to bring the most irrelevant subject matter into your reply. Or are you just irremediably fixated and obsessed in your demonstrated hatred for those who do not share your wingnut political views?

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            What makes you think that your opinions are any better? DF

          • Common sense!

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            I didn’t think you’d have any common sense since you have no common courtesy, DF.

          • Because they are factual and can be confirmed as such?

          • His opinios are based on recorded fact?

          • Experience?
            Actually studying law?

          • Suggest you educate yourself further. Islam is an Abrahamic religion, just as both Christianity and Judaism are.

            In plain English that says all three religions worship the Old Testament God of Abraham.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Well, ain’t that special? Yes, nominally, you’re right, BUT that’s as far as the comparison goes. Islam’s main symbol of worship and adulation is that wretched so-called “prophet” Big Mo – the pedophile who, when his peaceful ways in Medina won no adherents, moved to Mecca and turned to violence. And, as a “warrior” (slaughterer is more accurate), his first big group kill was hundreds of Jews living in the immediate area in nearby villages. And it was all downhill (morally) from there. So, please, spare ALL of us this “happy trio of Abrahamic religions” crap. Jews & Christians have been in the cross hairs of pisslam from the very beginning.

          • Mohammad was not a pedophile. Suggest you learn more about the society and customs of that local and era.

            Oh, and for your education, child marriage takes place right there in America.

            All that is required is a Court Order. It happen in all 50 states, but New York has the most of those marriages.

          • Child marriages are indeed permitted under the circumstances that you describe. While the issue of pedophilia is a rabbit trail, conflating Islam and Christianity is not and I believe that was the main point of Joy’s comment.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            I guess you think if a grown or even older man “marries” (rapes) a child of 6 (but doesn’t “consummate” the marriage ’til she’s 9), that’s not pedophilia? If any child marriage takes place in the USA (“child” under 13), it’s done illegally! And although we used to joke about child marriages in Tennessee, the reality is that any child marriage is against the law (private common-law ‘marriages” are just as illegal). Are all those marriages in New York primarily among Muslims?

          • In American society, it would be considered a crime. Here in the USA it is a disease named pedophilia.

            In Mmiddle Eastern society is a normal occurance. The marriage consumated, then the girl is sent to the harem.

            Here in the West we are taught propaganda that the child is cruely used an harmed. No,, she is a wife.

            After consumation, she will be left to mature into a woman

            Given the relationship to the equator, she will have experience her first menses by age 8 or 9, at the lastest 10.

            My mother worked for Standard Oil in Climbia at an oil camp. She was a physician. She spoke about delivering babies born to 9 year old mothers.

            The Middle East, like Columbia very near the equator. Sexual maturity takes place at a very early age.

            It has nothign to do with norms in North America. It is totally different. The 9 year olds are sexually mature, ovulating, can become pregnant and give birth.

            If a young girl developed that was in North America, it would be considered a illness.

            Close ot the equator, it is quite normal;

          • Child marriages take place in the US, on a regular basis — for many reason.

            All that is required is parental consent and a court order.

            Frequently, the girl is pregnant.

            New York States has the highes number of child marriages.

            The marriages are quite legal and performed by the judge issuing the licensw.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            When you say “child marriages” in the USA, what is the YOUNGEST that is allowed by any law in any state? Surely a girl has to be at least 14? I cannot believe that any judge in the USA in any state would approve marriage for a girl as young as 10 or 11. (But I could be wrong?)

          • I’ll be you’re for reparations and don’t see the hypocrisy in your thinking.

          • The data show that 3,481 children were married in New Jersey between 1995 and 2012. Most were age 16 or 17 and married with parental consent, but 163 were between ages 13 and 15, meaning a judge approved their marriages.

            Suggest you visit:

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Well, I’m not at all surprised at the rate of arranged marriages with girls 16 and above (whom I really don’t consider “children,” except that they’re under 18), but arranged marriages with lower-aged girls (12-15) is the problem (as outlined so specifically in Unchained!). Of course, foolish and unwise judges can be brought around to pass judgment (bribed?) in matters that should have no standing in a court of law! But the most interesting revelation in your reply was news about Unchained, the organization that’s fighting to curb these disastrous arranged marriages (especially among first cousins – INBREEDING, anyone?!? Check the survival rate of “normal” human beings!).

          • Actually, Mohammed claimed an angel appeared to him in a cave and told him that he was a prophet of Allah. and even a cursory comparison of Christianity and what it teaches and what Islam teaches you will know that Islam is a false religion.
            To enlighten yourself as to the difference between Christianity and Islam I suggest you go on line to, click on sermon series, then click browse, then click speaker, then scroll down until you find Al Fadi. If you click on that you will be able to watch his three-part series on the history of Islam and the differences between Islam and Christianity. He is a former Muslim born and raised in Saudi Arabia who became a Christian. Very interesting and informative to watch and you will be far better informed about Islam than you will ever know any other way. By the way, the man has a very real heart for Muslims, but also understands the intent of Muslim leaders (radicals) to take over all of the world and force people to bow to Islam or die.

          • No thank you. I studied comparative religions in college. I am not in the least bit interested in the hate and bigotry that is preached by ignorant, so-called Christian pastors.

          • I thought that you didn’t want to be ignorant, yet you are willing to discredit a man based upon your assumptions about his character? What would it hurt to hear someone who was part of Islam explain why Islam differs from Christianity? You don’t have to agree, but you could at least listen if you are interested in hearing a point of view other than your own. Perhaps we have a different definition of what constitutes an open mind, since truly open minds seek to learn and do not assume that they know it all.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Gee, how effin’ impressive! You actually “studied comparative religions in college!” Well, I, for one, am impressed – NOT!! The greatest religion of hate on earth is practiced by “devout Muslims.” I challenge you to name any religion as fearful, wretched and deadly on such a massive scale with ANY other religion operating TODAY (NOT 1,000 years ago!). Preaching “hate & bigotry,” but not calling on followers to actually murder the non-believers, is a far cry from the nature & history of Islam, which, of course, means “submission.”

          • But the hate and bigotry preached by Imams is just fine with you?

          • Religion is simply an additional layer of power and control.

            All religions should be respected, whether or not you decide to be a member of a particular cult.

            Religious hate — in all its forms — is wrong.

          • Religion is just an extension of an individual’s worldview, which in turn is derived from their answer to the basic existential questions: Who am I; where did I come from; where am I going; why am I here; and what happens when I die? Simply stated, everyone subscribes to a religion because the “god” that one worships can be anything, money, power, fame, self-actualization, the environment, the government, etc.. Far too many people are trying to force their religion, their worldview, down their neighbor’s throat.

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            The hate muslims (Ishmael) have for Jews (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob with his 12 tribes) is because of the jealousy of Ismael for Isaac has been transferred down through the years to our current generation. The Bible speaks of the chosen people (Jews) Christians (grafted into the Jews) being God’s children. All other religions are of their father the Devil. Your name, AK, dose that stand for your 7.62? to show your willingness to kill “infidels?” I shall respond to you no longer because to do so would be like giving medicine to a dead person.

          • Muslim is a proper nolun. Therefore, it is capitalized.

            Islam is the world’s second largest religion. Hence, you are insulting billions of people.

            The Middle East is not a religious war, as such. It is a group of extremists who are using religion as a justification for their crimes.

            Christians are busy murdering as well. That is especially true in the Central African Republic. It also takes place right here in the USA — where medical clinics are bombed and physicians are murdered.

          • The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law

            It’s not just the fringe anymore. Mainstream conservatives are trying to bring America’s laws into agreement with ‘God’s law.’

            The question isn’t: Will conservatives push to enact laws based on the Bible? We are way beyond that. The real questions are: 1. How many more of these laws do they want to impose? And, 2. What will our nation look like if their crusade is successful to bring America’s laws into agreement with “God’s law”?

            To some on the right, America is a “Christian nation”—like Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation—meaning that our nation’s laws should be based on their religious text. These forces aren’t moved by Thomas Jefferson’s famous letter in which he spoke of the need to create, “a wall of separation between church and state.” Nor will they be swayed by citing Ronald Reagan’s words, “Church and state are, and must remain, separate.”

            Just a few weeks ago we saw another example of creeping Christian Sharia Law with a bill passed by Kansas’ House of Representatives that would allow people and businesses to deny services to same sex couples if it violated their “religious beliefs.” This proposed law would in essence legally sanction discrimination against gay Americans because same sex marriage is not approved by the Bible. Similar bills are pending in other State’s including Mississippi, Idaho, and Arizona.

            And in the past few years, we have seen pro-life Christian groups successfully lobby State legislatures to restrict access to abortions. They have also raised religious, not public policy, objections to the government funding birth control.

            But here’s the alarming thing: These views are no longer the fringe of American politics. They are increasingly become mainstream conservative fare.

            We saw that in 2012 when Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum declared his belief that the laws in our country must “comport” with God’s law. Santorum also argued in opposition to marriage equality, that our nation’s values “are based on Biblical truth… And, those truths don’t change just because people’s attitudes may change.”

            And former Governor Mike Huckabee, who is considering running for president in 2016, proclaimed during his 2008 presidential race that our laws should be in accordance with God’s.

            1. If a woman is found not to be a virgin on her wedding night, “she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death.” Deuteronomy 22:20-21

            2. “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve.” 1 Timothy 2:10-13.

            3. “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.” Leviticus 20:10 (Unlikely conservatives will push for this law because with it would mean too many politicians would be put to death.)

            4. “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.” Leviticus 20:9

            5. “For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of Sabbath rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.” Exodus 35:2

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            “Christian Sharia” that is incongruant. You are dead in sin. I have no medicine to waste on you.

          • You are simply ignorant and bigoted.

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            You are dead spiritually, I have no medicine to waste on you. Go back to your pig pin.

          • Matthew 5:44

            44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

            King James Version (KJV)

            Public Domain

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            You quit reading too soon. I didn’t want to heap coals of fire on your head for eternity. There is only one God, His name is NOT allah. Only one mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus. That’s all the medicine I have for you.

          • The Name Of God In Different Languages




            Assyrian……………… Eleah


            Chaldaic…………. Eilah






            Egyptian (old)………….Teut

            Egyptian (modern)………Teun






            German (old)……………Diet



            Hebrew………..Elohim, Eloha





            Madagascar….. …….Zannar




            Low Latin……………..Diex

            Low Breton…………….Done

            Lapp ………. …………….Jubinal

            Olalu Tongue…………..Deu

            Old Saxon………………God








            Runic… ……………….As










          • Do you claim that America is a Christian nation? — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

            Not that long ago, businesses were required to close on Sunday — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

            Demands that same-sex marriage be illegal — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

            Legally deny service to same-sex couples –Christian Sharia in the U.S.

            Access to abortion restricted — Christian Sharia in the U.S..

            Objection to government funded birth control — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

            Demands that our laws agree with God’s law — U.S. Sharia.

            No abortion allowed for rape victims — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

            Interracial marriage ban — Christian Sharia in the U.S.

          • Bryan W. Carpenter

            Christianity and islam are not compatible because islam insists that you cut off our head. Go back to your country (no America isn’t your country) and try to keep your husband from roping goats. You are hopelessly spiritually dead.

          • As you have so often pointed out, the United States is not a theocracy,
            so the implementation of laws is not based upon a religion, as it is in Sharia. So, for example, the belief by some citizens that the government should not be involved in funding birth control is a question of the role of government, not necessarily one of religion, although our beliefs always play a role in our politics. Similarly many people believe that same-sex marriage is counter-productive to the goals of society and the historical definition of marriage; you don’t have to agree, but that is how many people see it. Additionally, many believe that life begins at conception; therefore abortion violates the right to life. These are philosophical differences that invite open debate and are not the same as Sharia.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Convenient that you (falsely) label Christian (and Jewish) beliefs as “sharia,” when that word applies to Islamic law ONLY. It is, in fact, the Code for proper Islamic behavior and beliefs – NOT identified with any other religion! But, like most atheists, you have an underlying hatred of all religions and, in fact, those who genuinely believe in a higher power than lowly, fallible & weak mankind.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            As you name the list of “forbidden” behaviors, as someone who grew up in an earlier age, I must say that the current insanity of rejecting reality (trying to change gender, etc. etc.) will not only NOT make us more enlightened, but will restrict the code of sensible and decent behavior even further. Political correctness is a restriction on our freedom of speech, beliefs and behavior and has no place in a truly free society. Let freaks of nature deal with their problems and insecurities and let the rest of us live our own lives in sensible harmony. Maybe, for true peace & happiness, diametrically opposite types & behaviors should just be segregated for everyone’s peace of mind and comfort of living. At the very least, keep your preferences to yourself and NOT force the rest of us to accept them as our own preferences & behaviors!

          • The idea that the United States was founded upon Christian principles is not the same as being a Christian nation. While Christianity was the dominant religion of the colonies at the time, that did not make the country a “Christian nation” in the same sense that Saudi Arabia is a “Muslim nation.” Nevertheless that does not diminish the role that Christianity played in the founding of the United States.

            Regarding religious freedom, there is a difference between saying I do not agree with a lifestyle based upon my religious beliefs and therefore cannot condone it in my business, and forcing businesses owned by others to comply with those same standards. Nevertheless this is always a delicate balance because we need to be respectful of others regardless of their beliefs and a strong case can be made for the value of extending this respect in business.

            Unfortunately there is a movement to silence those who hold dissenting views of homosexuality and that is equally wrong. A recent example would be the effort on the part of the mayor of Houston to subpoena the sermons of pastors who believe that homosexuality is contrary to the teachings of the Bible. Such action by an official of the government is unconscionable and a clear violation of the First Amendment.

            I want to ask you an honest question: Do you truly believe that Santorum, Huckabee, and/or the majority of conservatives want to implement the verses that you quoted above? I don’t and while it is easy to find extreme perspectives on the fringe of any belief system and use them to malign that belief system as a whole, the reality is that the vast majority conservatives do not support such a position. Creating a false concept of “Christian Sharia law” is an attempt to remove the discussion of differences from the marketplace of ideas and marginalize those who disagree by first misrepresenting their perspective through over-generalization and then marginalizing them.

            I, for one, would stand against the establishment of a theocracy in the United States, and I believe that both Huckabee and Santorum would as well. The establishment of a state religion is contrary to one of the core beliefs of Christianity, which holds that God’s kingdom is heavenly, not earthly. To be sure there have been many throughout history who have used Christianity as an excuse to further their personal agendas, but that says more about them than it does Christianity.

            Thomas Jefferson’s famous letter, which was written in response to the Danbury Baptist Association to address their concern that the government would interfere with religious conscience, stated:
            “…Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely
            between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his
            faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach
            actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence
            that act of the whole American people which declared that their
            legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of
            religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a
            wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this
            expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of
            conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of
            those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights,
            convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

            I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high
            respect & esteem.”

            The wall of separation that Jefferson mentioned was specifically mentioned in the context of protecting organized religion from the control of government, yet it in some cases it has been turned on its head to justify the outright exclusion of religion and religious people from the public square. Of course all people are religious, as I pointed out in an earlier reply to one of your comments, so exclusionary efforts center on organized religion and ignore those with non-traditional religious views who seek to impose their beliefs on others. This too is a violation of the First Amendment.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Our country was founded on the belief that our rights as individual were inalienable and derived from God (as distasteful as that concept is to most atheists, who, somehow, feel threatened by a Just God).

          • Islam came around in the early 7th century and Muhammad attached his belief system to Christianity, which had become accepted in the Roman world following Constantine’s conversion in the early 4th century. Interestingly he denied the validity of the very religions that he depended upon to nourish his own, which would seem to be a strange way for the Old Testament God of Abraham to advance his cause. While Muhammad attempted to use similar terminology to confuse potential followers, such as claiming to have received a vision from the angel Gabriel, Allah is not interchangeable with Jehovah, the God of Abraham. The name Allah never appears in either the Old or New Testaments as a name for God. In fact, the name Allah never appeared in the historical record until after Muhammad had his dream.

            Additionally, the difference between Christianity and Judaism is based upon the Messianic claims of Jesus Christ. Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah and thus the fulfillment of the Old Testament promise, while the followers of Judaism believe that the Messiah is yet to come. Both believe that, on some level, the Messiah will restore Israel, the children of Abraham. However, Islam calls for the destruction of both Jews and Christians, as well as Israel, while promoting the establishment of an earthly kingdom. It would be counterproductive for the God of Abraham to be Allah, since their teachings are not compatible. Therefore it stands to reason that Islam is not based on Judaism or Christianity, although Muhammad tried to make it appear so, and the followers of Islam do not worship the same God.

          • “Allah” is the word God in Arabic.

            It is not the name of a God.

            It is the same Arabic word used by Jeqs, Chrsitians and Muslims.

            Religious bigotry and hate is wrong — no matter how you try to justify it.

          • “”Allah” is the word God in Arabic.”

            That is correct and my mistake for responding hastily.

            Not justifying bigotry and hate, merely pointing out that the God of Islam is not the same as the God of Abraham.

          • As you have pointed out, the word “God” is not a name but rather a description, so it is not surprising that the same Arabic word is used by Jews, Christians, and Muslims to describe their deity; however it doesn’t mean that the God of Jews, Christians, and Muslims is the same. That would be like saying that using the word “woman” clearly identifies Jennifer Aniston every time someone uses the word “woman” in conversation. We may use the word woman to describe Jennifer Aniston, but that does not mean that all women are Jennifer Aniston.

          • You are simply not interested in either truth or fact. If you were, education would be your goal, not having foolish argument thst you cannot win.
            Islam Judeasm and Christianity are all Abrahamic reigions. That factual statement means that they all worship the God of Abraham.
            Allah is the Arabic word for God. I translates quite litteraly to “One God”.
            It is the same God Jews and Christians worship.
            Yes, I know that deflates some if the propaganda brainwashing that has been fed you.

            FRankly, what I cannot comprehend about you all and your self-enforced ignirancem is why don’t you seimply look up the facts.

            The terrorists are a very small drop in a huge reigion. They are bad people, but they are not the entire faithful.

          • I never said that from a historical perspective they appear to be derivatives; what I said was that their beliefs are contradictory on a basic level and suggested that fact precludes them from worshiping the same God. We are talking about two different things; I only mentioned it because people have a tendency to conflate the three belief systems and that is not an accurate.

            You were pointed to a link in another post that purported to offer an explanation of the differences between the God of Christianity and the God of Islam as explained by a individual who had practiced both, and you rejected it outright. To me that is self-enforced ignorance. You do not have to agree but at least consider the evidence from one who has been there. A college course is not a substitute for real life.

            If you have read and understood my posts, you will see that I have acknowledged my errors when they are pointed out. There are also times to agree to disagree as well. I have not told lies about Islam or insinuated that all Muslims are terrorists. Your assumptions about me are misguided.

          • Allah is the God Christians, Moslem and Jews worship — the very same God — the God of Abraham.

            I strong suspect the lies that have been told about Allah being a false God have to do with the Wars that are going on. Can’t have anyone seeing a Muslim being anything like us. No when we want them murdered where they sleep – every child, woman and man.

            Troops have been so brainwashed into believing these people are not quite human, they are raping the women.

          • Wait a minute, you said that Allah wasn’t the name of God, now here you are using it as such.

            There is an incongruence between the God of Islam and the God of Christianity that is highlighted by the difference in the role attributed to Jesus Christ by each religion. It is also difficult to reconcile the Judaic version of Israel as God’s chosen people (e.g., I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you) and Islam’s exhortation to kill Jews wherever you find them because you will be rewarded. Nevertheless it is easy to see how an atheist or agnostic might view them as having the same origin despite their contradictory teaching.

            Historically the Middle East is no stranger to war and while belief systems always play a role on some level, the idea that a Muslim is somehow subhuman is contrary to the core tenets of Christianity. It does, however, make sense to marginalize them from an atheist’s perspective; after all, when you are the product of chance and there is no higher power, what difference does it make?

            I have not heard of rape occurring, but given the length of our involvement in the region it would not be surprising. Rape, while abominable in any circumstance, has always existed in warfare. Naturally we do not want our military to be a part of it, but I suspect that it is practiced by a fringe element who have always reveled in antisocial behavior and has little to do with the rationale that you suggested.

          • Joy Daniels Brower

            Oops, I think, with the Muslim invasion of Europe (there’s a word in Arabic for that type of migration in the name of spreading the “gospel,” if you will, of Islam), it’s the Muslim invaders who are raping the European women! Check out some of the news blogs that carry this info on a daily basis (not the MSM, of course, they’re too politically correct).

          • No, Allah was one of 600 pagan gods that Mohammed chose to be the one god. And as Tired showed above, there is no similarity between Allah and the Jewish and Christian God. None. In fact, the Quran states that Jesus will come back . . .and kill Christians and Jews. Not the same god.

          • Your Idea That Judism an Christ an it ate Arabic Religions is at best idiotic at worst an out right lie. First an Foremost. Judism was the first of all three religion. Christanity 2nd Both steed From the very same orgins. Islam. As That spoken of By The Quran was last. 1600 years ago . The Quran is little more Then the Twisted ,perverted Plageriezed Books of Both the New and Old Testaments. THE five first books of the old Testament ate taken directly from the Torah. Without change. Word for word verbatim. Ahla is not The God of Abraham an Moses.Ahla is an evil dispicible, false God. Islam is in fact NOT A RELIGION OF peace but one of destruction an savagery.

          • allah is a moon demon chosen by Mohammed from 4,000 other Arab demons. The Muslim say allah has no son. My GOD has a son and Christians call him Christ.

          • Allah is the Arabic word for God. Christians call Him “God the Father”. Jews call Him Yahweh.

            You are embarassing America with your bigotry and foolishness.

            Jesus is held with high honor in Islam. He is recognized as a prophet. There is an entire chapter in the Koran for His mother, Mary.

          • I don’t care what the devil worshiping Muslims think and I sure do not care what a known liar like you says. Christ is the son of GOD. Are you army or Air Force or marine or camp fire girl this week. An maby changed from chickasha Indian to Arapaho or maybe Mohawk. You would as I have told you before rather climb a tree and tell a lie than to stand flat on the ground and tell the truth. My GOD is GOD allah is a demon. If you don’t like it to bad.

          • Allah is your God.

            God is “said” and “spelled” in many different ways — in many lajguages.

            Self-imposed ignorance is sad … very sad.

            Allah is the word for God in Arabic.

          • allah The demon to me.

          • Even there you don’t know what you are talking about on the Jews . YHVH.

          • The Name Of God In Different Languages




            Assyrian……………… Eleah


            Chaldaic…………. Eilah






            Egyptian (old)………….Teut

            Egyptian (modern)………Teun






            German (old)……………Diet



            Hebrew………..Elohim, Eloha





            Madagascar….. …….Zannar




            Low Latin……………..Diex

            Low Breton…………….Done

            Lapp ………. …………….Jubinal

            Olalu Tongue…………..Deu

            Old Saxon………………God








            Runic… ……………….As










          • My bible gives me the word of GOD no you who are a known liar.
            Exodus 20:3-5King James Version (KJV)

            3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

            4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

            5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

          • Are you really that ignorant?

            By the way Jesus was a Jew. He spoke Hebrew and would have used the word Elohim when speaking of God.

          • The Jews did not then or now use the name of GOD they considered it a sin. The used the initials. Which were Y-H-V-H. And those initials are pronounced YUD HE VUV HE. Which is where Jehova comes from . So it’s not me but you who is stupid. And you being a Muslim like you are . I think you don’t live in Alaska but in deer born Michigan win the rest of your demon worshiping friends.. can’t fix stupid. How’s all that martial art marine Corp training do for yuh. Put any one else in the hospital lately

          • You are not a Christian, not by any definition of the word.

          • You have no idea what I am one way or another. The only way to the FATHER is through Christ.

          • The seven names of God that, once written, cannot be erased because of their holiness are the Tetragrammation, El, Elohim, Eloah, Elohai, El Shaddai, and Tzevaot.

            Save your ignorance and insults for someone who respects your ooinion.

          • You don’t like what I say don’t respond. But I will say what I want when I want. Remember I call you burka woman. Be cause you are a muslin .i would be offended if you did respect what I say. You lie way to much. For me to beleive any thing you say. So if you don’t want me to say it go talk to some one else but from what I see they talk bad to you to. I wonder why that is.

          • How about Odin and Zeus or some of the others.

          • Yes an if Trump were to run as a 3rd party candidate he certainly would finish off what ever opportunity Shillary or Sanders had of winning the general election.. Why might I say that. Answer . Because presently The majority of those voting for Trump are either Independance or demo-rats. . Only 1/3 of his primary voters are republicans.. You would however be correct If Cruz chooses to Run a 3rd party candidacy. That would in all likely hood finish of the Republican party.

          • And just where do you get your statistic on that 1/3 of Trump supporters being Democrats? Out of some patch of clear blue sky, one would suppose. If you disagree, then tell us where that figure comes from. Otherwise we will conclude that you are just blowing smoke as usual, “in all likely hood.”.

        • A CRUSE is a small pitcher used to hold liquids like oil and vinegar. Ted CRUZ is a candidate for President.


        • Those states were South of the Mason DIxon Line. That election took place in 1968. His running mate, General Curtis LeMay, probably helped to tip the race against Wallace.


      • People like yourself only want the Republican Party to care FOR the voters not care about the voters. In other words Trump voters want promises of more free junk than the Democrat Party can promise, even if they were working overtime.

      • And since that’s the case there’s no reason to vote unless we really, really like one of the candidates . . .either party.

    • I agree with you Bryan….it will be time for the birth of a new party.

    • they the crooked ol boys club will face serious charges including treason….theY will be brought forth by the people and tried by us not the crooks and inept heads in THE doJ or bought and paid for supreme court. FINALLY…AND NO MORE LIFETIME APPTMNTS…IT IS OVER….ADVICE: LEAVE!!!

    • AMEN!!

    • or bring Marco Rubio to start another party

    • Phyllis Schultz

      If that happens we will have 8 years of corrupt Hillary on top of 8 yrs of Obama, which will most likely be the last election we ever have. The establishment Rep. are destroying themselves, and the US along with the rest of us. I agree, Cruz and Walker would make a great team, with Col. West being part of the cabinet.

    • If that happens write in your vote. Don’t stay home, but come out and vote in droves. That would be the fastest way to send a message to “the powers that be”.

      Furthermore, if enough of us give them fair warning now they will think twice before trying anything at the convention.

      • LOL.
        You do not elect a Prwsident.
        Suggest you read the fine print. When you vote, you are voting for a State Elector.

        • It’s a matter of semantics. On your actual ballot you will have some names from which to select, and those names are the names of the people who are running for office and you are telling them who you want…….! The point is, if you stay home and don’t vote someone else will be “speaking” for you.

        • I understand that, but when you mark your ballot you don’t mark any name but the candidates name that is under the party of your preference.
          You are making a simple process of getting people who may not like the nominee, especially if it comes down to a brokered convention AND have said they would stay home if they don’t like the nominee, out to vote (write in the name of the person they prefer).

      • Bryan W. Carpenter

        You are right on Jim. Are you a helicopter pilot?

    • If useless Ryan were to come out with the nominee you would see a strong 3d party arise and yes that would be the very end of the republican party. If they do try and pull off that kind of cr@p then good riddance to them also. I never ever thought I could vote for trump but if the the RNC does the above I would vote for him over ryan.

      • Bryan W. Carpenter

        I believe you are correct. I really hope that they come to their senses and get rid of the far left side of the party. No, I don’t think that they will do that either.

  7. I can’t stand Cruz but if he wins the nomination I am voting for him. Anyone that can keep a democrate from the WH. If we get another democrate in the WH again it will surely be a disaster for American conservative citizens. Those that stand against abortion, more government handouts, illegals, refugees, same sex marriage will be persecuted. Business will close and move out of the USA because the government is squeezing the hell out of them to provide more to workers while paying more tax and fees! And it will get much much worse.

  8. I say we should nominate “Mikey Mouse” as President and Goofy as VP, Marvin the Martian as SecDef, because it can’t get any worse than it is now under OBOZO the CLOWN! No matter who gets it were SCREWED and doubly screwed under a compulsive Stone cold lying , B $$! Or an old socialist bordering on alzheimes saying he’s gonna give it away FREE! guy !

    • Correct especially since the Republican Party is going to select someone such as Romney, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush that the voters do not want as our president.

  9. Irene Elizabeth Grooms


  10. You people who voted for Cruz after the conspiracy plot to ruin Trump he was a part of must be criminally minded yourselves…why in the world would you put another lier in Office who will follow Obama and do the same old crap to Us and Our Country that Obama did? Cruz is a mexican loving bigot and uses the work “Christian” to buy off Christians for their votes only! Someone check and see when was the last Service he attended in his Church! Just because he was and did work at the Supreme Court or for other judges why do you think he is so special…he just played the games that he was paid to be a part of…he is not great! Americans who are Patriot get out and knock doors for Trump so We the People will have fresh blood in the White House Oval Office that cannot be bought by the public and special groups! You all better be investigating into Cruz and see what special interest group;s owns him before you fail this voting process into his hands! Anybody brave enough to stop Cruz by coming forward with his unlawful transactions etc????

  11. my family don’t vote at all 17 votes if its not trump I would vote fot Mussolini or putin before cruz ot Kasich or jeb or ESPECIALLY PAUL SELLOUT RYAN I wonder if carl rove knows how many millins of people hate him

  12. I agree. A contested Convention is obviously the strategy that the GOP has aimed for ever since Bush and Rubio, their two establishment candidates, had to bow out. It seems almost a surety that they will try to bring one of these RINO’s, or possibly another, out of the closet at the Convention and foist that RINO upon us by buying delegate votes to support their hand-picked RINO once the initial balloting is over. While Trump and Cruz don’t appear to agree on much, they do agree that a revolt by their supporters will surely take place if one of them isn’t chosen. The only way to avoid all of that, and ensure that either Trump or Cruz becomes the nominee would be for them to reach an agreement that they will accept the one having the most delegates prior to the Convention as being the winner, agree that the winner take all their combined delegates, and that the winner would announce the other as his Vice Presidential running mate. How else could either of these men hope to survive the Convention, or we the conservative voters hope to win the general election?

  13. And what are We the People going to do if they “even dare to do it?”

  14. Michael Dennewitz

    But I keep telling y’all.. Just weeks before the election, the asshole in charge will enact martial law and that will shut everything down. It is THEN that the HNIC will declare himself a dictator – AND THEN, WE’RE SCREWED!! Laugh now, but I’ll be around to say, “I Told Ya So!”

  15. I think that the Republican party has forgotten who they answer to, which ultimately is the people! They have had numerous opportunities to make some positive changes, but due to their large RINO population have failed to do anything other than keep their heads up Obama’s ass! If they screw this up, they might as well resign in disgrace!

  16. We need the Delegate Crap aborted NOW….Today and let it be one vote and the ones with the most votes win! This is treacherous process and has been since the beginnin of it and today remains not needed to keep everyone lawful and the true winners elected in every political aspect for this Nation! The RNC needs to be put on
    Notice to close their doors and the Democrats to do their worthless Hitlers disbanded too! This is mind boggling how the RNC and Cruz and Rubio and Soros and whoever is lurking in the shadows that was a part of stopping Our Votes for Trump and even
    buying off Wisconsin! Dirty Politics are terrible! but this all is the fault of Americans who stand idly by and cruise through life and does not watch the Servants We the People have elected and they make careers in Politics and become dictators like they have showed Us they are in the Primary!

  17. A WARNING TO THE Republican Party “ESTABLISHMENT/LEADERSHIP”: IF YOU USURP THE WILL OF THE VOTER. You will be managing the Death of the Republican Party. If you clowns think you are going to get away with USURPING the American Voter, you best guess again. WE, the American Voter, not only will not vote in this general election, we The American voter will primary the GOP out of Government all together.
    In other words you want to play with the Will of the American Voter, Expect there to be catastrophic consequences for the GOP and its future.

    • You do realize, of course, that, even if they do hear you, they’ll just ignore you. They refuse to believe that the party’s over for t hem. In their minds, their plushy lifestyle will just go on and on. Kind of like some TV reality show where they all come out on top in the end.

      • Just a thought. You think that maybe, if the folks who take the time to view others responses to this B.S. would get with their families and friends, etc. and then get grass roots together, then confront our Representatives and Senators, that just maybe the

        • My family does, but the responses are always just the usual non-committal form letters in return. But, I’ve come to expect nothing more – I’m from Ohio. Boehner, Kasich, etc – Do I need to say more?

          • I understand what you are saying. I too get the form letters. I have to deal with John Cornyn (Senator) John Carter (Representative) and Ted Cruz (Senator). I consistently hear back from Cruz. I only get blah, blah from Cornyn and Carter. That is why I believe if we organize and as a group show up at their offices and town meetings, they won’t have a place to hide. To put it bluntly, the reason they are getting away with lying to us is we keep voting them back into office. It is time to stop them in their tracks. Example: Cornyn ran as the #2 Conservative in the US Senate. He isn’t even number 90. He is a RINO and a two faced snake. I say this as a Conservative Republican. It is time to primary John Cornyn out of office. He thinks he is untouchable. The ballot says otherwise.

  18. At this moment in time I am 100% backing The honorable senator Ted Cruz . However That being said If infact Trump wins the nomination. I shall be forced though grudgingly to Support Trump . If on the other hand Cruz is the nominee ! I would hope Trump supporters would follow suit & Support Cruz. Having said that ! If on the other hand ; The establishment undercuts the voters and chooses a nominee other than Trump or Cruz . There is one thing they can safely bet on. I for one of many will either vote third party or just stay the hell home. While watching as the house of rep’s,senate and white house jump from the clutches of the now defunct & forever Scumbag republican party . Count on it and bet on it . We the people shall not be deterred from our choices.
    If we Lose ,the republican party their donor class and their lobbyist will indeed lose far greater. BANK ON IT.

  19. Arrogant, sick, criminally INSANE elite will do what ever they think they can get away with. If they think there’s even the remotest chance Paul Ryan can get the nomination, his name will be floated out there for all to consider. Buckle up my friends; the ride is about to get very bumpy.

    • EXACTLY RIGHT!! I was in DC for 4 years having to deal with all the MORONS we elected and they are all SELF ABSORBED with themselves! I do truly honestly believe when JR Congressmen/Women and Senators when 1st elected go to DC with the HONEST attempt to do what’s right initialy! Get to see how it works inside the beltway ( in The PUZZLE PALACE ! They see the backroom deals, handshakes etc they have to hurdle, the ASS KISSING to a bunch of pompous, self absorbed, ( thinking they are entitled) corrupt jag-offs we elected to represent us!
      Non survive if they don’t learn how to PLAY THE GAME!! it’s not how good hearted you are, nor is it how well you can play with others, nor is it in their best interest to do anything THEY PROMISED TO DO IF ELECTED! The one thing they gotta lean is not to make friends but act like they care and how hard they need to drive a knife into the back of their opponents! How do you think those old politicians stayed so long? Once upon a time way way way back our founders idea of a govt for the people , by the people was a good idea. But unless it’s an elected govt for/bye the people and new blood isn’t brought in ,? Then the same people who were supposed to represent us lose their way and instead of saying US! It’s all Me, Me , Me!! They go from having a KNIGHTS attitude to a KINGS attitude!! Real fast!! Crooks, bribery etc. yeahhhhhh I saw it 1st hand our Govt at work!! Let me tell you it’s not pretty!! We need a COMPLETE OVERHAUL of the elitests!! Because being a Congressmam/Senator was not intended by our founders to be a career choice but their secondary duty !! From their own 1st jobs wether it be a Dr , lawyer, Farmer or Fisherman!!
      The pompous Elites inside the beltway DO NOT GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT YOU OR I!! All they care about is how fast and hard they can push that blade!!

  20. Karl Rove andRyan Paul can both take a jump in the lake and forget to come up.

  21. Wake up fools – REVOLUTION will be the only SOLUTION to the two-headed, one party totalitarian oligarchy! You haven’t seen anything yet as I correctly tell my friends, acquaintances and family – the lucky ones will not be around to go through the hell that is going to happen here in AMERIKA, the new Babylon!

  22. The gopRINOs, who are actually liberal democrats, have decided that they would rather have hillary Benghazi clinton as the next president than Donald Trump. hillary is a liberal politician and one of their comrades. Donald Trump is not a politician and they can’t control him. Therefore they will do everything in their power to assure that Donald Trump is not the republican nominee and they might even appoint some of their RINO comrades such as John McCain, Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan as a sacrificial lamb who is guaranteed to lose to hillary.

  23. Angiesd Seveneightnine

    I will be leaving the party & writing in Trump’s name if the RNC pulls this crap!!! I am a life long conservative!!! I will change to Independent!!!

    • Be sure to write it in with all necessary information so it will be counted and not thrown out.
      Check with your city or town clerk the proper format for a write-in.

  24. If Trump isn’t President, the USA will dissolve into a 4th world islamic place with much blood in the streets! Cruz must support Trump and work 2gether to undo the corruption. This is the last chance, or buy a rug to pray on!

  25. The establishment does not want Trump or Cruz as they would upset the apple cart and spill the gravy boat. Rove and the establishment along with the Left want to finish the destruction started by OHOLE.
    We the PEOPLE need a POTUS that is not for sale and is strong and will fight for what is right and THE AMERICAN WAY. We will have an uphill battle, a rebellion, and most likely martial law.
    Now is the time to fall on our knees before Christ and ask Him to deliver us as he did for His chosen people.

  26. I’m not particularly thrilled with Trump but he is the only candidate with any chance to beat Hellery in November precisely because the RINO GOP Establishment can NOT sabotage his campaign finances as they did to their previous 2 candidates.

    I AM particularly terrified with the possibility that Hellery Rodman Clanton, great granddaughter of Pa Clanton of OK Corral infamy, becoming our next dictator.

  27. I will vote for Trump or Cruz as the republican Candidate, if necessary I will right them in.If
    I have to vote for a write in, The rest of my votes will be a straight liberal dem bloodsucker ticket. I have voted for the best of a bad lot,.. my last time.
    I have never voted democrat before.
    if i have to this time to educate RINOS, so be it, if there are only about 20 republicans left in governmnet when it’s over, so be it.
    I have options on a site outside the USA, if I have to vote democrat, I will just acknowledge that the USA is finished and that we had a good run and I will have my family and business there before the democrat takes office, I will no longer deal with perverts, bent genders and hep fund handouts for the liberal dem bloodsucker.

  28. If We Wake Up Americans to a possible Uprising in America You all better get prepared to know which side to take and not falter….this will not be good!

  29. I think that if they don’t give the nomination to the person with the most delegates on any ballot that the Republican Party is history and the GOP leadership establishment rinos are history also—-IT WILL NOT STOP AT THE CONVENTION—THIS IS A MOVEMENT—WE DO NOT WANT THE ESTABLISHMENT ELITES IN POWER ANY LONGER

    • They use the delegates to control the outcome they chose,that is the problem , If you win a state you should get every delegate for that state period.

    • That’s just what happened to the Whig Party (by the new Republican Party in mid-1800s). “‘Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.’ – Santayana

  30. We will see one of three and maybe all three nominated:
    all RINO’s and all puppets.

  31. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO VOX POPULI? Does the establishment think that ordinary citizens lack the intelligence to choose their own candidate? I am fed up with the power brokers running my life. I’m sure there are others who feel the same way. We CAN put the person we want in the W.H. but it will take a lot of effort to accomplish it between convention and election. So, make up your minds now. Is it worth the fight or do we cave in and let them take it all away?

  32. Let us, Conservatives all, remember that whoever is our candidate, be it Cruz, Trump or Kasich, who does the work to be the selected person, and I already have a chosen candidate, all of us must come together to put a Conservative/Republican in the White House. I am not for Trump nor Kasich, but if they “earn” the position I will vote for that person. Our nation will be completely destroyed if either of the “Socialists” on the otherside are elected. First we must gain the White House, and then we can do away with the RINO’s, Established Swines and every single professional politician that see’s only his/her power, wealth and position as being the “Democratic way” to govern, Period!

  33. Why are we paying for their salary and why are people keep voting these law breakers back into the government at their local States..?? Are those votes being rigged in each State also ?

    Remember this, for over a month Paul Ryan sported a beard, we believe he converted to Islam He and Cruz wrote the TTP This is truth Research these people before they too start hiding their records as Cruz is doing now…

  34. The posts below do not bode well for the GOP. I say we unite behind whichever candidate wins out and go after the Dems full speed ahead. Sanders is not going to win and Hillary is on the verge of hot water unless Obama can hold off the Feds until after the election. But even then, she may get caught in an impeachment mess.

  35. Repubs and TPs are finding out that Ted Cruz is not eligible for the WH job, now they want recruit an alternative -Paul Ryan. We the publics do not know why TPs and Repubs hate Trump. For the last 7 years the same TPs and Repubs have been telling us they want the Southern border secured by tall electric wall; they want all illegals removed; they hate Muslims and those here have to be monitored; GOP are against abortions – and fact they have been trying to outlaw abortions; GOPers hate Blacks and other racial minorities. Now they got a GOP candidate who wants to do all that – Trump- they hate him. TPs and Repubs are hypocrites and liars.

  36. If the republican party screw us, again, I think that it is time we seriously arm ourselves.

  37. RINO-RIPON Ly’n Ryan is off to Israel to get his instructions on how to jam-throw more “bipartisan” compromises into the hopper—a “me-too” surrender of the USA to “Homeland” status—through massive immigration.

  38. I am not so sure ending the Republican ” establishment ” is a bad idea . I am sick of tax loopholes for the rich and corporations . The only way we can end the D / R criminal cabal controlled by the lobbyists is to VOTE THEM ALL OUT .

  39. As much as I don’t like Ted Cruz, the only way I could put up with him would be as the VP with Trump at the head of the ticket.

  40. The real question is why is the GOP so hell bent on their own destruction? If Mr. Trump does not get the 1237 delegates but is leading the other two denying him the nomination will be like committing political suicide. Mr. Trump or ted cruz will not have that magic number, kasich is just a pawn who’s to stupid to know he’s out, one win and that just barely in his home state. I for one will not support any one but those who have close to the magic number. Screw over us and it’s going to be known as the GOING OUT PARTY as who’ll lose big time suppoters.

  41. Ignoring the voters and especially the new voters and voters that switched from Democrats and independent voters voting for Trump or Cruz will be gone and possibly for a decade . The Party will be destroyed and may never recover and will become a Party of something else. They will loose their jobs and I will help.

  42. Green Eyed Lady

    Ryan showed his colors when he suddenly became Speaker and immediately pushed through the funds Obama wanted! No more Ryan for me.

  43. RYan has already proven to be a worthless RINO! If he were to become the Repub nominee, then he will lose to Clinton, and things in the nation will continue to get worse.

  44. If the Republicans do not pick Donald Trump and he runs as a independent we could finally get a independent president in office and this would be a very good thing for this country a third party for the future.

  45. Paul Ryan=John Boehner 2.0!! There were MANY THINGS in the last budget that Paul Ryan supported that could have been cut out of it, yet Mr. Ryan decided to GO ALONG with almost 100% of what Mr. Obama wanted!! This is not what we were promised by the Republican establishment in the last election! Given their continued DO NOTHING TO OFFEND MR. OBAMA attitude, they are risking LOSING BOTH HOUSES AND THE PRESIDENCY TO DEMOCRATS IN THE NEXT ELECTION!! Carl Rove can go pound sand!! Mr. Ryan as president, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!

  46. After what went on in WI election where from the very beginning the people voting lodged complaints that their votes were changed to Cruz or they could not get the machines to take Trump’s name and with Cruz not standing up and demanding an investigation I have come to the conclusion Cruz is willing to win by hook or crook. I am not voting for just whom ever is palmed off on us through the GOP and their idea they have the right to tell us who to vote for and not allow us to pick who to vote for. I will be writing in Trump’s name and screw the GOP. I will no longer register as republican they can kiss off as far as I am concerned.

  47. As far as I’m concerned the republican party is dead. The way the established elite are playing around and ignoring what the voters want they are over. They are all afraid of Trump because he owes no one so he can’t be controlled by them and he will put a stop to the gravy train they have been riding.

  48. Lorraine George

    It should be down to two only. The establishment is picking the nominee and we the people don’t count. Why the heck do they think we have picked two outsiders? Mitt Romney, McConnell, Ryan. and Eric Erickson can go jump in a river for all I care. I am so sick of the crap from this bunch that it makes me furious. I use to like Cruz but even he has added insult to injury.

  49. This Crap has been going on for many many years. Remember Eisenhower’s warning? ” We must Guard Against the Military Industrial Complex.” Trump has brought the blatant disregard that the GOP political elite for the Republican voters in the Presidential nomination process. Sanders is showing the corruption of the DemocRATS with their “super delegates.” We need to do away with the Electoral college and have popular vote in both primary and general elections.

  50. I believe it would be a tremendous, fantastic, unbelievable, amazing thing if Trump got dumped. Among other things, that would keep him and his big flapping mouth off the tube telling us that everything he would do as President would be tremendous, fantastic, unbelievable and amazing.

    • In that respect I must agree, he sounds too much like obamao who hasn’t done much of anything good, but Trump can deliver more than bho’s nothing [Barack Soetoro set the standard so low, anyone can beat it].

  51. Bye, Bye GOP!

  52. Do not be a chicken little. The sky is not falling. Donald Trump can still get the 1237 delegates he needs to get the nomination. His biggest and best states are yet to come. If anything the roof will come down on the GOP establishment at the convention if they deny the peoples choice his rightful place as our candidate to be the next President of the United States. As a lifelong voting member of the Republican Party, I will see Mr. Trump on the Republican ticket or I will no longer remain a Republican.

    • Agree – your comments are right on! The Republican Party had better wake up they are currently part of the problem. They have spent over $500 million pushing candidates that the people do not want. They better get behind the people’s choice ( Trump) – or that party will loose not only the election but the people will bailout big time. It’s obvious they have to change to the wishes of the people who elected them or else it’s game over for the party and the country. Had they done their job and prevented the Madman ( 0bumer ) from doing the damage to our country ( impeachment for crimes against our constitution and the lies about being a Christian) and the American people
      The people would have more faith in their decisions. As it is they are gutless and possibly part of the DC corruption. Ryan has done nothing to show he can stand up to the evil in this country ( another puppet of this administration). Enough!

    • Do the statistics he will be 40-45 delegates short… good bye scary candidates hello some other fascist .

  53. end of the U.S.A. … can U say Yugoslavia children…

  54. Richard Schwartz

    Does anyone really believe these people will change? Republicans have two choices, either recognize the voters or welcome a third party. Voters will not tolerate being ignored. Do what establishment wants but those are the choices. Remember the same holds true for both parties.

  55. Cruz will never get enough delegates and scott walker and wisconsin are being sued for riggiing the election last night

  56. Those GOP Rino’s will regret their ignoring the membership of the party and I think Cruz and Trump should unite and together ram these Rino’s with their RINO horn.

  57. All this fuss over a non-issue. With 4 different SCOTUS rulings in concurrence, the TRUE definition of “natural born citizen” leaves no doubt but that Cruz-like Obama-is not eligible to serve as President. It really is that simple!

    • When was this litigated? By who? What was the verdict?

      • Go to, where there’s a detailed article on this whole thing. The first , and probably most telling SCOTUS ruling on this issue was in 1814-the “Venus”case.

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      • Start with the “Venus” case of 1814-SCOTUS. N.B.citizen must be born on American soil to U.S citizen parents.

  58. Valerie C. Marino

    U people should be ashamed of yourselves EVIL. Trump has the right to go on if he wins it fair & square. This will be the end of the Republican party with your own actions. the Convention screwed – u want this ? You act like the mafia taking over & ruling people’s lives. Disgrace. People are tired of the ESTABLISHMENT’S bullshit. Time for change – new blood. Cruz is the biggest liar – cheater. You people hate him. U want him in ? He has a bad mouth. He lies for his own benefit. He is the devil. Trump tells it like it is – u like good – u don’t tough. He calls it the way he sees it. Give the man a chance.
    I have worked Politics for many years & I have never seen anything like this. People will not vote if this happens to Trump. People will protest….you are digging your own grave,,,,,bye- bye Republican party.

  59. I am voting for either Cruz or Trump even if it is a write-in vote

  60. If the establishment tries to take over and “nominate” our candidate don’t stay home and not vote, but go to the polls and do a write-in vote. We might surprise the establishment with enough votes for someone to take the presidency away from the establishment candidate.
    All of this is speculation that the “establishment” is going to try to pull someone out of the hat, so to speak, but if they do we need to be prepared to write in our candidate..

  61. If Trump is kicked out with their lies , we can and will see the complete destruction of America..many decent people have tried to wake the U.S up but no one wants to dig for the truth. facts on cruz is coming out, it best be soon. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil..pray for Trump and believe me, he knows what to do and has honest people to guide him in all things and including our safey, will help wake many up and has.

  62. Eleanore Whitaker

    Wow, how recherche are some Republicans? Nothing like a party in tatters creating a corporate style profiteering campaign for the past year using wannabee Presidential candidates to dredge up profits, right?

    There never was going to be anything but a Republican October Surprise. Let’s pretend that one hasn’t been stashed in the closet “just in case.”

    I always laugh at the Twerpie Generation who claim they hate the establishment. Weren’t these the twerps who grew up in an established Daycare regiment in the tens of thousands for the past 2 decades? Try again children.

    Rebellion is dandy when it has a direction and a purpose that actually can meet fruition. When it doesn’t? It’s just more Twerpie Generation YOLO in action.

    Yadda yadda yadda…hate establishment…bleet bleet bleet…hate government….yang yang yang…hate anything that resembles order and unity…Yeesh..How long Oh Lord How Long?

    • Sandy Perlmutter

      You got it right. This site is basically mental masturbation by fake patriots. They are not smart enough to see how they are being rooked by their alleged Party and their “Leaders”. Twerpies (good word!). Home Skooled by nut burgers.

    • Eleanore Whitaker ! My dear friend : You sound so much like those who were community leaders in Germany during the Removal of the jews by those who were also jews; from their homes by siding with the Nazies. You have presented the very same cry. As had they ! O stop complaining get in line walk to the train which shall take. you and your children to the death camps.” Damn ” You’ve been raised with a rubbery cowardice like spine. Apparently all your entire life having been handed everything. Never worked , earned or fought for anything for yourself. Never having to stand up take account for you actions. Or fight for that which you believe to be right or true. Suggestion Instead of attempting to slander or denigrate those who are willing to stand up .Why don’t you crawl back into the cowards hole you crawled out from

  63. Donald J. Drumpf HAS A PAC…America Great PAC.

    • Sandy Perlmutter

      TRUMPERY definition

      NOUN (plural trumperies)

      1 Attractive articles of little value or use.

      Example sentences

      All along the extent of the corridor, in little alcoves, there are stalls of shops, kept principally by women, who, as you approach, are seen through the dusk offering for sale… multifarious trumpery.

      The 2000 or so mercers included great merchants engaged in international trade and small traders selling trumpery objects from their shops.

      1.1 Practices or beliefs that are superficially or visually appealing but have little real value or worth.

      Example sentences

      An assertion of absolute moral superiority in the form of black-shirted nuclear families – spiritual trumpery via breeding.

      In fact, it’s even more important to bring a critical eye to bear on issues of such import, if only to avoid the kind of moral trumpery that goes on in these sorts of letters.

      You mean to tell me I gave the book up for nothing but trumpery?

  64. If these criminal acts against America that Hitler Hilary has committed and the Conspiracy Plot Cruz implemented against Trump on National TV, the fact that Bernie the Weasel is a Socialist hiding behind the aprons of the Democrats does not make Americans mad as hell then We the People that Voted for Trump will lose Our Rights and Freedoms with their “fixing of the Race” for Trump to lose! I do not believe for one
    moment that We need the Liar Cruz, Hitler Hillary, or Bernie the Weasel in the White House, and Kasich is just trying to make a name for himself…Drop Out Dead Man in the Race! We have had enough of allthe hell no one has even had the gutts to stop over Obama! Has anyone found out the Obamas emails are fixed just Hillarys and We the People do not pay his phone bill? When the “phone bill” for Hillarys phone for her emails did not arrive to be paid by We the People the involvement of the bill payer for Us knew right then and there what was going on! Guilty by Association is the one who “writes the checks that knew Hillary was doing something wrong…and probably Obamas phone has the same problem! Americans enough is enough…Let’s follow Trump all the Way To The White House and Into the Oval Office!


  66. I know one thing for sure the Democrat party should already be dead because they are the most crooked, murdering, Islamic, dirty Party on the planet who would sell their own mother and yet we have STUPID assholes that can’t even tie their shoes and who can’t even figure out what the Democrats are doing to this Country who’re voting for them ! The Republican Party is almost as bad and if they come across with some Bull Shit Convention and nominate one of their own ESTABLISHMENT CRONIES that will be the end of them as far as I’m concerned.

  67. Has everybody in America gone “Stupid”, the “Establishment” “WINS” regardless if a Democrat or Republican of “THEIR CHOOSING” is nominated. Nobody is Washington is going to be in fear of losing their “cushy Establishment positions” if they can keep the “PEOPLE’S CHOICE” out of the race. Have the majority of people become so “Stupid” they can’t understand what is going on enough to be “MAD AS HELL” at what is happening.

  68. In the spirit of ‘Pride goes before the fall’ the establishment GOP will try their very best to send Ryan to certain defeat.

  69. Somehow I don’t see a revolt happening if the GOP betrays the voters choice for nomination. That’s not to say that there shouldn’t be a revolt, indeed there should be. I just don’t think there are enough people with the nads to stand up to the bastard establishment fucks. If the GOP does give the nomination away I hope I am wrong about this, time will tell

  70. soldier for liberty

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. – Benjamin Franklin

  71. soldier for liberty

    Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

  72. soldier for liberty

    Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

  73. soldier for liberty

    The true subversives are political representatives who are threatening to take away your inalienable rights.

  74. Archie Cogollos

    If either of the top 2 …Trump or Cruz are not chosen….and a 3rd party run is made …the RNC will die as it was created…through disechantment….let’s not forget that every 3rd party run has always…repeat always ensured a Democratic win..this is without exception…those who are allegely in the know and so called leaders obvioulsy neglected to study , read or recall history…and as the saying goes…are doomed to repeat it…snap out of it…you made everybody pledge to support the eventual leader…honor your word…iif you don’t stand for something…you don’t stand for anything….and the loss will be on your collective heads…and yes that blinking lite you see out of the side of your eye…that’s …that’s your career dissipation lite….bye …you’ll have to get a real job….

  75. I don’t know about Paul Ryan. But they will DARE. Both parties have already told the voting public to be damned and they(the parties) will pick your candidate for you. With the democrats it’s the “super delegates” fixed for Hillary Clinton. The republicans intend to Dump Trump at the convention. But the surprise will be that they will dump CRUZ also, just as soon as he has served their purpose. This election is soaked with SLEAZE.

  76. I believe the Republican Party has already committed suicide! They’re toast no matter what they do now!

  77. If Hillary or Bernie is elected, the USA is finished right away. If a Trump or Ryan or even Cruz is elected, the finish will be slower than in the other case. Bye, bye USA. It cannot be saved.

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