NY Times Concocts Phony Story to Mask Problems With Russia Investigation

The New York Times has been guilty of printing a lot of fake news over the last couple of years, but they really outdid themselves with the whopper they published on Saturday. In an anemic attempt to keep an air of legitimacy around Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s collusion with Russia, the Times printed a story claiming that the infamous dossier (aka, Hillary Clinton’s phony opposition research) was indeed NOT the spark that started the fire. Rather, a campaign volunteer named George Papadopoulos ran his drunk mouth off to Australian spies, alerting the intelligence community to the international conspiracy.

This story was laughable on its face, and the Times should be ashamed of going to print with this nonsense. Quite simply, it doesn’t pass the laugh test. Mind you, this isn’t the first time we’ve heard Papadopoulos’s name in connection with the investigation. As a matter of fact, he remains one of four Trump associates that has been indicted by Mueller’s team. Papadopoulos was charged with lying to FBI agents in an interview last January.

“During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton,” read the Times’ story. “Two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.”

This, according to the Times’ sources, was the “driving factor” that led the FBI to begin investigating Russian hackers and their connection to the Trump campaign.

But the story just doesn’t pass the smell test. For one thing, if Papadopoulos was the guy who spilled the beans, why did the FBI wait until January of 2017 to interview him – long AFTER they had already released their intelligence report concluding that Russia was to blame for the Democratic National Committee hacks? He’s their primary evidence and they don’t even bother talking to him for more than six months. Not until after Trump has already won the presidency? Come on.

In an interview Sunday, Rep. Ron DeSantis threw more cold water on the phony story.

“There was just an article in The New York Times yesterday where they’re leaking about this Papadopoulos which actually conflicts with the previous stories and is not anything anyone can say under oath on the record to us,” the Florida Republican said. “You look at that and say, ‘Ok you’re not willing to answer Congress’s questions under oath but you’ll leak things to the media?’ That is not the way this is supposed to work!”

Well, it’s because this is not a legitimate investigation anymore…if it ever was. Mueller and his goons already know that there was no collusion of any kind, so now they’re just on a mission to smear the president’s name and give the Democrats something to run on in 2018. But if they want us to swallow tall tales about the origins of the investigation – tales that take the absurd dossier off the table – they’re going to have to do better than this.

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  2. The Democrats already have plenty to run on in 2018. Spite, resentment, vagina hats, wounded ego, injured vanity, astonishment that there aren’t nearly as many stupid people as they thought there were, fake moral superiority, an army of paid ‘protestors’, toilet lickers, whiners, angry grievance groups, childishness, rage that their constant propaganda wasn’t enough to crown their criminal queen supreme ruler of the universe, the same smug arrogance that lost them everything in the first place, tantruming leftists, sky screamers, anthem kneelers, flag burner’s, doddering old socialists, illegal aliens and an endless supply of false accusations.

    • Not to mention better ideas.

      • Blah Blah Blah

      • Yep, she didn’t mention that the left has no ideas, let alone better ones. Put on your vagina hat, get your baby bottle and pout in the corner like a good little libtard.

      • Mention 3 or 2 or even1. Obama tried to “fundamentally change America” by shoving rules and regulations down our throats that stifled the American economy, by going around the world and apologizing for America, by shoving a doomed healthcare plan our way and by creating the worst racism I have seen in this country since the 1960s and the democrats went along with it. Trump is here almost a year and he has turned the economy around, shown the world that America has nothing to apologize for and is throwing political correctness out the window.

      • Post a few of the democrats “better ideas,” and perhaps you can convince us!

        • give specifics or you are just a simpleton…..bring it…

          • Rich G., LOL! Guess I might be “…just a simpleton….”
            I simple can’t “give specifics…” that point to ANY “better idea” that any Democrat has contributed!
            I merely requested that Jim Dandy inform me of ANY “better idea” that a Democrat has shared.

          • Don’t play with the keyboard coward. It’s a moron that is too stupid to know it.

          • You are right!

          • You couldn’t possibly come up with any demoncrat better ideas because they have never had any. It was a trick question, LOL.
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      • everything but facts….

    • YES! Nailed it.

    • LOL, that was so concise and funny as hell how you wrote the truth. I enjoyed the read.
      Semper Fi, and God bless.

      • Thank you, I just call it like I see it. And God bless you too.

      • If I haven’t said it before I’ll say it now thanks for your service brother.

      • Retarded Marine-Quote you “LOL, that was so concise and funny as hell how you wrote the truth. I enjoyed the read.
        Semper Fi, and God bless.”

        Admit it. There were many words in natalie’s worthless ad hominem diatribe you didn’t understand. I don’t think you possess a grammar school dipshit diploma.

        Semper go fuck yourself-

        I really don’t enjoy or think it’s productive getting in the ditch, but in your case, I’ll make an exception because that’s where you spend your life on PND. You are one sad ignoranus….

        • Say it to my face, keyboard coward. You are a typical lying little POS wasting good air. Still hiding in your pathetic parents basement.

          • so predictable-Real big macho marine boy.grow up

          • AHH, the keyboard badass tries to impress. Back to your momma’s basement , it’s time for your feeding and diaper change. You sure are a joke, little keyboard coward.

    • Sum it all up with the apropos descriptor “Demonrats,” the party that will go defunct after the 2018 election.

      • These people on the LEFT actually believe that they are going to take over the House in November. Thy will lose probably 3 or 4 more seats in the House and 3 to 4 seats in the Senate plus Alabama will go back to the Republicans in 2020 and if Michele Bachman runs in Minnesota for Al Franken’s Senate seat she could possibly take that seat as well.

        • Yes and the MSM and GOPe, are predicting a dimbocrat take over of the House and possibly the Senate because Mr. Trump is so unpopular. I agree with you but then we will see.

          • Trump voters had BETTER turn out in 2018 to make SURE the lying COMMUCRATS do NOT get a majority in EITHER house of Congress! Because if they do, their rabid hatred of our LEGALLY elected President will impel them to launch impeachment proceedings against him on–you should pardon the expression–whatever TRUMPED-UP BS accusations they can dream up. Never mind that they have no EVIDENCE of any wrongdoing on his part, much less, you know, PROOF! That will NOT stop these irrational LOONS from attempting it, anyhow, and from gumming up the words and impeding Pres. Trump’s efforts to MAGA for ANOTHER election cycle.

          • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

            Al Green is rubbing his paws through his greasy hair just waiting for that to happen.

          • I truly think that when people start getting bonuses in their paychecks and tax breaks the fence sitters will see that Pres. Trump is doing exactly what he promised. That is going to move a lot of people to vote conservative.

          • Yes, the proof will be in the pudding!

          • Yes, a call to arms! Come out and vote_2018! Lets bury them.

          • Oh, we will vote and drag out the relatives as well! There is no way that we will let the Dems get a foothold again! They richly deserve to be defeated!

          • They already tried it once unsuccessfully and the odds of them taking over the house are pretty much null. They would have to win more elections than they ever won in one election cycle ever and I think that’s nearly impossible.

          • Yes but these are the same people who were calling him ‘unpopular’ before the election and confidently informed us Hillary was a shoo-in. Don’t believe the hype. Because that’s all it is. Desperate sore loser’s still trying to control the narrative.

          • Unpopular with who? He’s not unpopular with the people who put him where he is and we intend to keep him there.

          • They think he is unpopular, but, I am thinking many Trump supporters.may just stay out of the discussions and the poles, which they so heavily rely on..After what happened in the 2016 election, would make me a little weary of them…

        • I wouldn’t be surprised.

      • If ONLY, Robert Uda. No, they will continue their left-tard FRENZY, and since nobody with any sense wlll vote for these radical leftist LOONS any longer, and the ONLY way they can win an election is to STEAL IT, their voter and election fraud machine will CONTINUE to game the system trying to STEAL what they CANNOT legitimately WIN.

      • I really, really hope so. Keep voting!

      • They would have lost the Alabama election except for the voter fraud issues.

        Elite D’s = Elite R’s = Elite MEDIA and the Elites are counting the votes….

        The MEDIA will fill our heads with the possibilities of the election being close, and the Elites will count the votes, and find out that it is close, 52% to 48%, in favor of the Elites chosen ones.. We don’t have to think too hard to find out who the elites will choose.

        “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
        —-Joseph Stalin

        The ELITES are deciding everything…..

        • The Democrats have relied on voter fraud of any and all kinds for every election. We need eyes that see and then speak up and turn them in. The election office in every town must be vigilant and fair!!

      • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

        Shariacrats is more accurate.

    • Stunning accuracy.

    • Gee, is that all you have? Seriously, that is the laundry list to end all laundry lists. I think there must be more, but I can’t think of anything else at the moment. Good job of tapping in to the idiocy that plagues this country (and apparently, the rest of the western world).

    • Well, yeah, that and the CONTEMPT Hillary Clinton, her adoring media sycophants and her HORDE of lib-tard followers just can’t seem to hide for middle class working Americans, which caused said middle class working Americans–MANY of whom have always voted for Democrats–to abandon that party in DROVES and climb aboard the Trump train. The Commucrats did this to themselves, with their FRENZIED pursuit of “identity politics” victim groups, their rabidly leftist-LOON ideology and their total ABANDONMENT of middle class working voters. And it seems they have learned NOTHING from their colossal mistakes and are continuing down the SAME LEFT-TARD path, which is going to lead them to yet ANOTHER defeat at the polls in the 2018 mid-terms. EXCELLENT post, by the way, Natalie!

    • Unfortunately, the Left controls the MEDIA and we live in times when….

      “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”
      —-Lenin

      Excellent post. Never, ever stop… Thank you for your service.

    • Beeotchstewie the deplorable

      Wow I think you hit them all.

    • Did not miss anything. Good post.

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    • I think you pretty much covered it all! :o)

    • LOLOL, this is so funny, but the sad thing it’s ALL SO TRUE !!!!! G-R-E-A-T !!

    • Great summary Natalie!

    • a very complete explanation,Id say!!

    • INVENTOR INVENTED

      Those vagina hats dont look like vaginas.

    • natilie GREAT.

    • Gee, you left out global warming and that Al Gore invented the Internet.

  3. I just watched the movie The Hunger Games this weekend.

    You know a futuristic society controlled by Communists who suppress all dissenting opinions. The interesting thing is the Communists used TV to control the masses….

    Then I walked outside and woke up in CA…. Not sure which is worse…

    • What exactly do you think a communist is? Your comment misses the target because there was nothing communist about the society in Hunger Games. Take a class or something.

      • I think that Communism is a form of slavery…..

        Take a much closer look at the Hunger Games… One Government rule, slave states (sectors).

        Communism is simply a State where the people are enslaved by the Government….
        ———
        Communism – Marxist-Leninist system.
        the Marxist-Leninist version of a classless society in which capitalism is overthrown by a working-class revolution that gives ownership and control of wealth and property to the state.

        Socialism – Political system of communal ownership
        ———–

        What do you think Communism is? Utopia?

        • Don’t bother, libtards think they know everything. I wish they would go and try their BS in a communist country. DOA.

          • I do not post for the Libtards, nor do I think they will be swayed by my opinion. I post so that those seeking the truth, will see the wisdom in our words, and the lies in the Lefts words.

            If we let them the Left will bury the truth under a mountain of BS.

            God Bless you my friend… Keep up the posting…

          • Back at you.
            Semper Fi

        • For those of you who do not yet know the difference. From Marian Webster.
          capitalism
          : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market and the private ownership or corporate ownership of all properties.

          socialism
          1
          : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
          2
          a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
          b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
          3
          : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.

          Definition of communism
          a : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed (Never has worked as there are always greedy persons who take more than their share)
          b : a theory advocating elimination of private property

          • Examples: Venezuela and Cuba. Right in our own back yard.

          • Examples of Communist States are North Korea, China, and the Russia of old.

          • I actually heard a group of the clueless snowflakes say they would PREFER a system like Venezuela currently “enjoys,” because at LEAST in that system, everybody is EQUAL. Yeah–they are ALL equally STARVING and miserable! How STUPID is that?

          • They are so wrong and don’t even know it.

          • Yeah wait until they can’t have what they want for nothing. There is nothing free. Someone pays for it one way or another. The people in Venezuela and Cuba would tell them different if they could but these flakes wouldn’t believe them just like they don’t believe us. Their indoctrination is in full force.

          • Yeah typical idiots, they want it until they get it then cry about what they wanted in the first pace. I will help any of them get to Venezuela, but they must promise, on pain of death, to NEVER come back.

          • Thanks for helping me prove my points.

            I would also like to add that Big Government is just another form of Communism.

            And Crony Capitalism (or the collusion of Big Government and the wealthy) is just communism creeping into Capitalism.

            While the Left is clearly communist, they often get people to run away from crony capitalism right into the arms of communism.

        • Francisco Machado

          “Marxist-Leninist version of a classless society” – I beg to differ on the “classless” part. According to Karl Marx, the only
          identities that mattered were class identities – note Class Identities – the working class and the
          ruling class. It is true that he considered all other class distinctions a distraction from the achievement of a classless proletariat, a status which, owing to the inherent self interest of individual elements, would disintegrate without the centralized control of a ruling class, a Progressive elite with the necessary administrative power to enforce the homogeneity of the masses

          • Point well made about the real world.

            Your point shows the pure dictionary definitions of Communism, Capitalism, Socialism do not exist in the real world.

            Which brings us right back to the Hunger Games, where society “could not live in peace” unless they all served the Capital, (a centralized ruling class of Progressive Elites).

            At least according to the propaganda generated by the Elites.

            We now live in a Country very close to the Hunger games.

            Elite Democrats = Elite Republicans = Elite MEDIA = Liberal Progressive Big
            Government Communists.

            Big Government = Communism

            The Elites have fundamentally transformed our country from:

            Of the People, By the People, and For the People,

            to:

            Of the Elites, By the Elites, and For the Control of the People by the
            Elites…

            This is Communism. The elites are the traitors.

            There are still people within our Government that are still working FOR the
            people, but we must root out all the wolves in sheep’s clothing.

          • To the snowflake/Millennial crowd, Communism = perfect equality, i.e. participation trophies for EVERYONE! Being SEVERELY history-challenged, they have NO CLUE what a REAL Communist society really looks like!

          • Not sure what we can do about it except keep on screaming the truth from the mountaintops…

            snowflakes are a product of ideological subversion, which was designed by Russian communist in a plot to overthrow and occupy the United States.

            https://youtu.be/mqSV72VNnV0

          • This is exactly what has happened to our young people, what the liberal run schools and colleges have done to our children. We have to start turning our youth around and get these liberals out of our schools and our government. This is exactly what Hitler did in Germany and what HitLIARy and Obama has been doing for years. We sat back and just gave our kids to these people to brainwash. Look at what the youth of Germany during Hitler’s time did to their parents. They turned them in and sent them to the death camps. God people open your eyes. I saw where the are saying that John Podesta is the son of Dr. Medea that did atrocious test on the prisoners in the prison camps and to children. They are also saying that Angela Merkle in the daughter of Hitler. If true that explained what has happened in the EU.

          • That was suppose to be Dr. Mendela the butcher of Germany but spell check changed the spelling.

          • Spot on.

          • OUTSTANDING!!!!! The problem is it’s damn near unstoppable without force. Groups like antifa, BLM, muslim brotherhood, need to be eliminated, then the so called Teachers must be removed and replaced with REAL teachers, the older textbooks, and discipline.

          • Antifa, BLM, muslim brotherhood, are all ideologically subverted and being used as useful idiots.

            Fortunately, none of these groups are all that big, and are not all that powerful, when you compare them to their enemy, the American People. As long as these groups keep working outside of the law, and we have the weapons to defend ourselves antifa, blm, etc are not huge problems… I am not saying we can turn our backs on them, but I do not see them as as big a threat as say the teachers…

            It is time for a reset of our education system. We need to pull all our children out of the indoctrination centers and figure out how to educate them ourselves. The Government can no longer be trusted.

          • I believe that small area’s of people should go back to the one room schoolhouse system. Hire your own teacher that knows how to teach (and is accountable to the parents) and not preach, at least for grades 1-8, longer if possible. That way parents must be involved with the curriculum. Maybe then kids will at least know how to read and do math.

          • Agreed, school vouchers would be helpful so that people could spend their own money more wisely.

          • The simple minded always believe in the utopic lies of communism. Then when they achieve their utopia, they beg for help to get back what they gave away in the first place.
            Idiots all.

        • Obviously he is a snowflake IDIOT who has been brainwashed his entire LIFE in the public school indoctrination SHEEP FACTORIES to believe that Communism is a paradise of rainbows and unicorns where EVERYBODY is perfectly equal. (They forgot to tell him that, in the words of George Orwell, “some animals are more equal than others,” and what REALLY happens is that everybody would be EQUALLY MISERABLE! The ONLY people who PROSPER in a Communist society are a few elites at the top, while the REST are ruthlessly SUPPRESSED and enslaved to serve that elite.

          • We must remove our children from public schools in favor of home schooling…

            What caring parent would drop their child off at a communist indoctrination center?

          • Francisco Machado

            Orwell was, himself, an impassioned Socialist. It was the intrusive all controlling Progressive government to which he objected. It has been many years since I have read Orwell. Though I have read several of his works, I don’t recall him addressing the paradox that Socialism can’t exist on a societal level without the centralized control of the Progressive 1984 government.

        • Francisco Machado

          Communism? Modern technology applied to Feudalism creating a national feudal state comprised of ruling elite and serfs who, by the nature of the controls and burdens under which they exist, are wholly dependent upon the Lords of the Castle and cannot exist save by their largess – that they would have no means to bestow did they not tax the productive labors of the serfs for the means to buy their loyalty.

      • More Blah Blah Blah

      • Yeah jim and who had all of the guns? That’s right, the fascist/commie government!

        YOU ARE A
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      • I think YOU are the one who are seriously misinformed about Communism, Jim Dandy. I suggest YOU take a HISTORY CLASS and, in particular, EXAMINE the old Soviet Union, East Germany, et al, to see what Communism actually IS.

      • The premise of Hunger Games was they had to do what the “leaders” wanted to get food for their district. ??? Not communist??

    • “The interesting thing is the Communists used TV to control the masses….”

      Yes idiots like you-

      This just in-

      Just a short news update today.

      The Fusion GPS people have stepped forward… after being grilled by Republicans for three sessions about trying to link the “Russian Dossier” to Hillary Clinton and Russia (or to get it proven to be false).

      Fusion GPS is the company (made up of former Wall Street Journal investigative reporters) that was initially hired by conservatives (probably Marco Rubio) and later by the Clinton Campaign to put together opposition research (totally legal) by a former well respected British MI-6 agent… to dig up dirt on Donald Trump. And they found plenty.

      And since Trump and the GOP committees were starting to go through their own histories (the two that make up Fusion GPS) and investigate THEM…. and refused to release to the public their closed door testimonies… the Fusion GPS duo decided to spell out some of it themselves…. in the New York Times! Well worth the read!

      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

      And now to top off an amazing day (and it’s not even noon yet)….. Steve Bannon has called the “Don Jr. Trump Tower” meeting a traitorous act!

      So Bannon is calling Trump’s son a traitor!

      http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/bannon-wolff-fire-and-fury/index.html

      Wow… no wonder Trump sent out 16 tweets of distraction yesterday. One claiming that because of him 2017 had been the safest year in aviation history… when no one has died in a commercial airplane crash on an American airline since 2009! I don’t remember Obama making these claims… for eight years in a row!

      Of course we also had the “hidden by the holidays” stories about Trump rolling back safety issues for offshore oil rigs put in place after the destruction of the Louisiana Gulf Coast….. The firing of The Presidents Council on Aids & HIV research… And the rolling back of Fracking regulations that required the energy companies to tell local residence what chemicals they were putting in the ground…. and in turn… into their water.

      I wonder how the Gulf Coast oil workers that may have voted for Trump feel about this?

      But then again… they won’t know because Fox News didn’t report any of these things.

      Fox, Brietbart, and the hideous internet have created the perfect “alternate universe” in which Trump’s shrinking base can marinate in hatred.

      But all of these regulatory things can be reversed if the Democrats get their act together…

      Tick Tick Tick Mr. Mueller….

      Gilbert Hetherwick

      • blah blah blah…

        Rich, you should know that I take everything you say as mirroring and attempts to cover Liberal progressive communists tracks…

        EVERY Communist State controls the press.Including the one in the Hunger Games.

        Name one that doesn’t… Name one that has a free press. Even the United States press is no longer free as they have given up their freedom to promote their ideology…

        • so if I said you were mirroring to cover your tracks as a fascist, that’s not something you can refute.

          • Bottom line, you accusing me of mirroring only tells me you are mirroring.

            All this mirroring could get confusing except that I know you are fighting to promote socialism/communism at the destruction of Capitalism.

          • You accused me first and therefore you are guilty-

          • sssuurre, is that liberal logic? or desperation?

          • It’s the truth…something you have trouble with.

          • Alinsky 101 –

            There are eight levels of control that must be obtained before you are able
            to create a social state. The first is the most important.

            1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people

            2) Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are
            easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing

            everything for them to live.

            3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to
            increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

            4) Gun Control – Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government.
            That way you are able to create a police state.

            5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and
            Income)

            6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of
            what children learn in school.

            7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools

            8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will
            cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the

            wealthy with the support of the poor.

          • similar to this….

            Communist Rules for Revolution
            In May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, the allied forces discovered a copy of these ‘Rules.’ They were first printed in the United States in the ‘Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Examiner-Enterprise’ the same year, 1919.

            Almost 20 years later, in 1946, the attorney general of Florida obtained them from a known member of the Communist Party, who acknowledged that the ‘Rules’ were then still a part of the Communist program for the United States.

            1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

            2. Get control of all means of publicity.

            3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities.

            4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

            5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

            6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

            7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

            8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

            9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

            10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.

            Now, stop and think — how many of these rules are being carried out in this nation today? I don’t see how any thinking person can truthfully say that the Communists do not have any part in the chaos that is upsetting our nation. Or is it just one big coincidence? I doubt it.

            ORIGINS: A time-honored ploy in the political arena has been to discredit your opponents (and their ideas) by demonizing them, through associating them with … well, demons. In the modern era, this has usually meant claiming the ideas your opponents advocate were implemented by Nazis or Communists, or were recognized by them as means of “softening up” a country and making it ripe for totalitarian takeover. So, for example, if you believe the film industry should be more heavily regulated to prevent it from corrupting our youth, simply reference a supposed historical document in which Communists proclaim they were able to seize power in Russia because the previous government had allowed callow youth to idle away their time watching “immoral movies,” and your point is irrefutably made.

            As reproduced in the example above, one purportedly genuine document of such ilk is a list of “Communist Rules for Revolution” which is typically claimed to have been discovered “in May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, by allied forces” and “first printed in the United States” in the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner-Enterprise. Aside from the fact that the Examiner-Enterprise is a real newspaper, none of this rings true. Language about getting the young “interested in sex” and focusing their attention on “sexy books” and

            fretting about the “registration of all firearms” sounds out of place for 1919 (as this Ngram chart shows, “sexy” is a word one was far more likely to have encountered in America during the post-World War II era than in 1919), and not surprisingly, nobody has ever managed to turn up the mysterious issue of Examiner-Enterprise that supposedly printed this list. When columnist Bob Greene checked out this piece with Russian specialists at the University of Chicago and Northwestern University in the mid-1980s, they said the list was “a total fraud,” “an obvious fabrication,” and “an implausible concoction of American fears and phobias.” (Greene also wrote: “I always wanted to meet a communist who was carrying the list around, so I could ask him what ‘obloquy’ means.”)

            When The New York Times ran an article on this piece back in 1970, it had already been circulating for about twenty-five years. The Times reported that neither the National Archives, the Library of Congress, nor university libraries had a copy of any such document. When Montana senator Lee Metcalf looked into the issue back then, he checked with the FBI, CIA, and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee; he found that “exhaustive research” had proved the rules to be “completely spurious,” and he declared that “the extreme right also follows rules, one of which is to make maximum use of false, misleading and fear-inspiring quotations.” Nonetheless, numerous members of congress have received copies of the Communist “rules” list from alarmed constituents over the years and, believing that nobody else was yet aware of them, have inserted them into the Congressional Record. This list has also been reproduced in many newspaper columns and letters to the editor.

            The earliest known publication of these rules dates from February 1946, and it’s significant to note that publication coincided with events such as Winston Churchill’s famous “Iron Curtain” speech, in which he issued a warning to citizens of the United States that “Communist parties constitute a growing challenge and peril to Christian civilization.” The timing suggests it’s far more likely this list was compiled by Americans in 1946 than by Russians in 1919.

            Circulation of this list really took off during the height of the Cold War in 1954 (the same year that a military defeat by Viet Minh Communists forced the French out of Indochina, and Senator Joseph McCarthy charged that communists had infiltrated the CIA and the atomic weapons industry) after Florida state attorney George A. Brautigam endorsed the document as genuine. (For many years afterward, printed versions of the list included his statement of its authenticity and reproduced his signature at the bottom.) Even though the Soviet Union has long since ceased to be, and the number of Communist countries remaining in the world can be counted on the fingers of one hand, the “Communist Rules for Revolution” are still anachronistically cited as evidence that America is experiencing moral and political decay fostered by outside forces. As folklorist Jan Harold Brunvand wrote of this piece back in 1986:

          • Don’t bother, Rich is out of his Girod, LOL, What a lunatic.

          • LOL… I found this the other day. Very interesting. Know thy enemy…

            https://youtu.be/_j6ZBKbWXOU

          • They do follow the rules don’t they?

          • Yes they do. Now we have to find ways to neutralize their tactics.

            Especially the ridicule tactic, because Alinsky was right, it is an effective way to silence your opponent.

          • No ridicule – just facts which you’ve never refuted. Ha, ha, ha!

          • There you go, mirroring again… Give it up… Drop the insults and try to find something that you know that ain’t wrong.

          • Don’t play with he keyboard coward, it’s incapable of thought. If it isn’t on lame stream media he/she/or it can’t grasp the information or any facts for that matter.

        • somebody saw a movie based on fiction and is all excited that it proves everything he says is true

  4. WOW – such an amazingly FACTUAL article! Pulitzer material for sure.

  5. As soon as I heard this story on the “news” I thought how desperate and laughable it is. I wonder what those delusional, brain dead idiots from the left will come up with when this dies the same pitiful death all their other garbage has.

    • Maybe you can explain what fucking difference it makes whether it was the Steele Dossier or Aussie Intelligence that tipped us off about the Trump Campaign’s collusion with the Russians. It’s not a fake story, but a non-story.

      For those of you who have been totally insulated from reality by Fox News, our intelligence services and FaceBook determined that thousands of Russian internet operatives targeted key precincts for trolling, sowing discord and anxiety to stimulate support for an authoritarian, namely Donald Trump. Somebody told them which precincts were key. That’s collusion.

      • Even more Blah Blah Blah

      • From day one I never considered that our system of justice was flawed. We had very competent, capable people guarding us from those who would wish us harm. But…
        The FACTS which have come out regarding the political bias in the uppermost levels of FBI management is disturbing. Until these revelations there was a just lot of “spin”. We owe a lot of thanks to the Mueller investigation for stirring up the mud. Had Hillary simply shook hands and walked away this would have never happened. Private citizen Obama is violating the Logan Act as best as I can tell by his unauthorized global jet setting to foreign heads of state. Isn’t that what they first accused Flynn of doing? I’m so confused.
        We could go on for hours debating positions. But the FACTS will determine the outcome. It appears that the judicial system requires a review at this time.
        Happy New Year!

      • Blah, blah, blah. Nothing but more useless blather from another dissatisfied moron who voted for the most corrupt crook in history. You presume a lot claiming anything about Fox News and me since I don’t watch. Thanks for proving that you DO use the useless media to inform yourself, it tells us everything we need to know about you.

      • Didn’t take you long to prove Austinniceguy correct. Libtards are so predictable, and dead wrong on everything.

      • Every time I hear about the LIES of Fox news I have to laugh. The lefts definition of Lies comes to what they do not want to hear, not what is said. They become so saturated in the hate of what ever they oppose, automatically, everything that is said that is not agreed with and promoting their agenda at hand cannot be anything but a lie. Logic out the window!!!

        • Snowflakes and other assorted libtards put their fingers in their ears and sing “La la la!” every time the truth is spoken, because it does not match their delusions, and therefore must be wrong, in their estimation. Hence they can NEVER be educated, much less INFORMED, because they REFUSE to hear the truth!

          • That is a general statement that refers to nothing and therefore meaningless-Be specific and give it some meaning

      • Lies and bullcrap without a single piece of evidence. But you of course live and breath the fake news, which has consistently been proven wrong. You’re nothing but a sheep, easily led by the lying herders of the left. Someday in the not too distant future you will discover the truth, and it will be too late for you, your family and friends, your children, all you know, and they can blame you for the pitiful state they are in. Now, go be a proud little communist.

      • Under Clinton and Obama, check your own facts before you toss out BS. All you said was done by them, but you must be blind, ignorant, or just as evil as them not to see the truth. What the hell did you think Obama was talking about when he uttered “fundamentally changing” the UNITED STATES? COMMUNISM, get it? Of course if you are a communist you love the attempted destruction of our country

    • I read it. But had to stop. I began muttering to myself.

  6. Let’s see what democrat hack and Clinton uranium bagman Mueller has after a year and a half and several hundred million dollars of “investigation”. Paul Manafort did not complete the proper paperwork as a foreign lobbyist a decade before the Trump campaign even began. General Flynn made false statements to the President-elect and Vice President-elect, for which they are somehow responsible even though they already fired him. The munchkin Papdopoulos claimed while drunk that he could arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin even before the former ran for President, and then he couldn’t. This is as serious a catalog of threats to our Republic as has EVER been accumulated, much worse than the mere bagatelles of the leather-clad liar from Lesbos that must be swept under the rug – bribery, collusion, conspiracy, espionage, murder, obstruction of justice, perjury, racketeering, sedition and treason.

  7. In a nutshell. The democommies had this elaborate scheme. They knew hillary didn’t stand a chance in hell to win. Even with every dead person and illegal voting for her. There was one chink in the plan and that was an electoral college. hillary would fail miserably. The scheme? Once Trump was in office they were going to create a coup. They had the MSM, DOJ, FBI all involved to bring Trump down and then place their candidate into office after his removal. But, they forgot one thing. The citizens of America as a whole are and were not as stupid as they have perceived us for so many years. Their big plan of a coup fell apart rapidly. Today with all this investigation is nothing more than the democommies attempting to save face and save their own butts. All participants involved are guilty of one thing and that is TREASON! Being found guilty of treason still carries with it a sentence of DEATH! Save the ammo, let’s break out the ROPES! Past time for some public executions of the traitors!

  8. So you claim the Times made up a story even though you have no information to contradict it, but only your “laugh test” (or, later, your “smell test.” What—no blind taste test?), which brings no information to bear on your fake news story about alleged fake news. Oh, and nobody alleges it but you, in what adds up to a completely unsupported opinion. It’s lame, even by your shitty standards.

    • Give it up, Lefty. Your drivel is becoming monotonous.

    • But your unsupported opinion is factual? You are a walking cluster F–K.

    • More credible than the stories concocted by the left accusing Trump of wrongdoing that are only substantiated by sources that refuse to be named and witnesses using only hearsay and innuendo.

    • Uh, it’s called common sense. Yanno? The author is using common sense to debunk this latest “revelation” from the NYT. But you don’t understand that, do you? Liberals see everything in emotional black and white, am I right? But, you see, the author is assuming certain things by virtue of applying common sense to the unproven facts of the NYT article; equally, you cannot apply logic to resolve emotional issues; facts needed to disprove that latest NYT allegations declared debatable while awaiting otherwise cold, hard, facts that dispel all doubt (though we’ve seen your hero Hillary laugh when confronted by proof she allowed four Americans to be murdered then lied to this nation about her lies and guilty behavior. COMMON SENSE. I don’t expect you to understand.

    • Well it must have come from an anonymous source, which the left should always believe is true. Personally, I prefer facts and named sources. To each their own.

  9. DirtyDaveyDownEast

    That’s it!
    Hold the presses!
    Board up the doors and windows!

    Ayuh!

  10. The NYT is nothing more than a malignant form of rectal cancer,,,the very force that drives the mindless left! The only effective way to treat it is surgically!

    • The metastasis appears to have invaded their mouths as well. The surgery should be successful because they can’t possibly survive.

  11. That’s called lying. Defamation of character. Sue them.

  12. It’s the New York Slime, what do you expect?

  13. Francisco Machado

    Politicians are, inherently and of necessity, liars. All of them. That is an essential element, since the individual politician wouldn’t get elected if he told the truth. It falls to the opposing party to point out and prove the lies (or, all to often, counter them with their own lies). It’s like NASCAR racing – you get away with everything you can because all the other drivers are doing that, too. Elections are won on campaign promises. When they turn out to be lies, advantage to the opposing party until they fail to fulfill their own lies. The point beyond which this becomes critically dangerous, where the risk of it becoming unrecoverable, is when one party no longer cares that you know they’re lying because they have installed a sufficient number of their own operatives in government that they cannot be prosecuted, that it is dangerous to even to attack them for their lies – essentially, that they have executed a successful coup. Had Hillary been elected President, the Progressive Democrats would have achieved that. They obviously have not given up – They may yet succeed.

  14. The dems and their media are championship liars!

  15. The web is closing around the Democrats and they will say anything, do anything to push the blame onto someone else! Typical! Intellectual dishonesty runs rampant in this group of “politicians”! Not a statesman in the group! So sad!

  16. I wish everyone should Always refer to the NYT as the NEW YORK SLIMES. this paper has become nothing but a RAG TAG PIECE OF GARBAGE THAT IS ONLY FIT TO LINE YUR BIRD CAGE WITH OR YOUR CATS POTTY BOX

  17. Just another ploy by operatives of the Democrat-Communist-Islamic Terrorist Organization.

  18. Never was anything but a Biblical Court of nothing. Kangaroo at best, Pharisee at worst.

  19. Yeah yeah and the also the dog ate their homework yeah that’s it

  20. what about podesta

  21. I like the New York Times.

    With my three cockatoos and a cockatiel, newspaper is in short supply. Somehow, it’s fitting to have the NYT front pages and editorial section right where my birds can put them to best use. Yep, journalism at its finest — and my birds’ editorial comments put the finishing touches on the best NYT journalists can do.

  22. Perhaps it is time to include the NYT into the investigation to see if they were complicit in the treason against America!

  23. Anything coming out of the Democrat Party’s propaganda ministry (e.g., CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc.) shouldn’t be taken with a grain of salt, but the entire salt mine!

  24. GET A FRIGGIN LIFE DEMOCRATS! Admit “defeat” and accept the consequences with character, not the sniveling whining of a baby. Really very childish of you libs.

    We are beyond tired of your pointing fingers at everyone when you are the source of our problems! Grow up, become something better than you are and for God sake, THINK OF OUR COUNTRY FIRST FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF YOUR SELFISH SELVES!

    So disappointing that grown men and women can act so childish and desperate instead of putting our country and countrymen first! Pathetic…

  25. INVENTOR INVENTED

    every time they accidentally print something they print a retraction right away. the NYT is more accurate that the buzz.

  26. Let’s be serious — we all know the NYT would tell any lie that they hoped would bring harm to Trump and somehow help Democrat losers, like Killary, to gain.

  27. how does Rex McMillian(lightweight) know when any of what he says happened-The Mueller investigation is leak proof…unlike the trump administration is running for it’s life. So obvious.

  28. Great investigative reporting again…Aussie spies! Who would have thought? It does seem to be boomeranging on them though.

  29. I want to know why this investigation is still allowed to continue. It is a known fact that it has no credibility at all. It should have been stopped already. The whole thing is a waste of our money and making our govt. a laughing stock. When the true investigation is over i expect to see a lot of people in high positions to get some serious jail time and the DNC should be considered an outlawed organization.

    • You are right it is a waste of money ,but the democrats have to keep the fire going in hopes of gaining seats so no one goes after Clinton and exposes the DNC . It is called a stall tactic for the Nov. Election .

  30. Greetings!! Life is simple, its the people that’s creates the problem, and now we have Trump, he thinks his a little Caesar of the White House. and now comes the truth, he is not the leader of the voices of “WE THE PEOPLE” only creating for what he say’s because he is not to be, but causing other country’s to do harm. and you voted for this mad man. and now you will find out the real truth.

  31. It is so nice to watch a liberal rag flush its self down the toilet. The only thing better is to see the Demon-Craps shoot them selves in the foot.

  32. INVENTOR INVENTED

    The NYT is objective. They don’t tell deliberate lies and they correct mistake when their sources are wrong.

  33. This concoction is the most obvious made up array of facts to distort and distract yet. Are these leftists that stupid that they would swallow this shuffling of times and people?

  34. Greetings hope all will have a good year. I’ll just get to the point, freedom of expression, why aren’t we investigating more about the little Caesar of the White House, “the Trump family more closely”, then going after others that’s no more then trumps witch hunt, I’ feel Trump is covering up the real truth, Trump is hiding something and your just playing along with all this.

  35. Doesn’t matter, America has 85 million idiots an morons (Clinton voters) to keep them in business. It’s simple economics : where there is a demand, someone will supply it.

  36. Greetings!! which you all a wonderful year, we have a lot to learn, nothings for shore, but don’t loose hope, Something tells me your coming to the wrong answer.
    For now comes the truth, the truth of the fact. “WE THE PEOPLE” need to investigate. Mr. Donald John Trump and his family. he plays stupid games, and that is to go after those he feels is trying to discredit those who appose this man of mayhem. I’ just want the Dam truth not, feeding the population with nonsense, just watch, and just set back and learn of the real truth about this man. I’ think of you not Trump. Thanks Timothy…
    rule of law.

    • Sorry Tim, President Trump isn’t the one you should blame. Put it on the leftist criminals like hillery, Obama, Pelosi, schumer and all the other race baiting demoncrats. Other than that, you have a nice day.

  37. There was no honesty in the Russian controversy .

  38. william g munson

    Being-charge-does-not-mean-it-is-True-now-they-have-to-prove-they-are-innocent-not-the-oposite-persumed-innocent-is-a-joke-they-are-Guilty-until-proving-they-are-innocent-Period

  39. And let’s make sure that taxpayers are NOT funding this fiasco!!!

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