New Study Turns Gun Control Beliefs Upside-Down

Concealed carry killers are a threat to public safety. The evidence is clear that all too often, private citizens use their concealed handguns to take lives, not to save them. – The Violence Policy Center

It’s a myth that has been propagated for so long that even some conservatives believe it. The more guns you have on the streets, the more crime you get. It’s one of those cause-and-effect statements so obvious that most Americans don’t bother to question it. Even those who support the Second Amendment do so with reservations, believing that it’s more important to uphold personal liberty than to save lives.

But what if it wasn’t a choice? What if there was very little – if any – correlation between legal gun ownership and higher crime rates? Wouldn’t that make strict gun control policies a very silly reaction to violent crime statistics? Wouldn’t that mean that groups like The Violence Policy Center and Moms Demand Action are essentially lying to their followers?

A new study shows that this might be closer to the truth than most Americans realize. Conducted by the Crime Prevention Research Center, the study found that while murder rates have fallen since the election of President Barack Obama in 2008, the number of concealed carry permits has actually gone up. This correlation isn’t insignificant, either. Since 2007, the number of concealed carry permits in the United States has risen from 4.6 million to 12.8 million. During the same time frame, the murder rate has fallen from 5.6 murders per 100,000 Americans to 4.2 as of this year. The country is more armed than ever before, yet violent crime continues to fall.

“This paper simply shows that the states with the biggest increases in the percentage of the population with permits have seen the biggest drop in murder rates and crime,” said CPRC President John R. Lott in an interview with RealClearPolitics.

The study also found that concealed carry permits are becoming increasingly popular among women and minorities, breaking through the stereotypes. For years, pro-gun enthusiasts have been seen as largely white, male, rural, and conservative. But according to the study, there has been a 270% increase in the number of American women with concealed carry permits. Furthermore, concealed carry rates are rising among blacks and minorities at roughly twice the rate they are rising among whites.

“Over the last couple of years, there has been a massive sea change among blacks’ views towards guns,” Lott said. “My own belief is that, if you look at the evidence, women and blacks, particularly poor blacks who live in high-crime urban areas, are the people who benefit the most from owning guns.”

 

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Lott is well known in gun rights circles for his book, More Guns = Less Crime, a must-read for anyone who wants to know the truth about the American gun debate. And while it’s tough to prove that the increase in concealed carry permits is directly responsible for the decrease in violent crime, his study does prove that the opposite argument is much less credible.

So why is it, with all of this information available, that liberal Democrats remain so fiercely anti-gun? Easy question. The thousands of handgun murders we have each year in America are not taking place in rural Kentucky. Red state Americans are not killing each other in mass numbers. The country’s most crime-riddled areas are urban communities with Democratic leadership. These politicians know that their awful economic policies are to blame for the dangerous conditions on the street. So they have to look for something else to blame. Racism in the justice system. Biased cops. The 1%. And of course, guns.

Since Democrats are still in power, we can assume that voters have not yet gotten the message. The next major gun study should attempt to prove a correlation between Democratic leadership and violent crime. If that can be proven (and it almost certainly can), maybe the left will be forced to acknowledge that there’s something wrong with their philosophy on politics, society, and the individual. And then maybe we can stop blaming boogeymen for America’s problems.

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  1. Concealed
    carry killers are a threat to public safety. The evidence is clear that
    all too often, private citizens use their concealed handguns to take
    lives, not to save them. – The Violence Policy Center – See more at:
    https://patriotnewsdaily.com/new-study-turns-gun-control-beliefs-upside-down/#sthash.xfJouj86.dpuf

    • If you tell the “LIE” (The Violence Policy Center) enough, people will believe it to be true. That is what they are doing in washington. Hope we get a person for president that will tell the truth.

      • The truth from his own heart . . . not a tele-prompter fed Fiction & Fantasy.

      • That is because they have the media in there supporting their lies.
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        • No apologies needed. Donald would not apologize, so you don’t have too. The ~drive~by~media are co-conspirators with the liberals who hate America. I quit watching those dumb a$$ news communists long ago. Most of them have very low IQs and don’t know what the hail they are talking about. They would not know the truth if it slapped them in their a$$.

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          • Count me in. I will spread the word. I already quit watching movies that have the die hard liberal morons in it like little billy maron (maher) stallone, goofy jim carey, nappy whoopi, and others.

          • In case you thought there might be some bias in news reporting….

            How’s this for having
            the “inside track”?

            YOU HAD A HUNCH THE
            NEWS SYSTEM WAS RIGGED AND YOU COULDN’T PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THIS MIGHT SOLVE
            THE PUZZLE.

            ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to
            Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

            CBS President
            David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security
            Adviser for Strategic Communications.

            ABC News
            correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary
            Jay Carney

            ABC News and
            Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy
            Press Secretary

            ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s
            Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

            CNN President
            Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom
            Nides.

            And now you
            know why it is no surprise the media is in Obama’s pocket.

            Ya think there
            might be a little bias in the news ???

            It also
            explains the cover up of Benghazi………

    • Most of shooters have guns they stole, Now I didn’t say all, But Most of us who uphold the 2nd amendment do not use guns to murder or hold up others, we work and raise our families in a Christian or Jewish manner.

  2. WHITE FOLKS — The ONLY REASON Violent Crime when down, is Blacks and Hispanics FEEL More a part of America, because of the ELECTION of President OBAMA…

    Just WAIT until he is out of office…CRIME is going back to it’s PRE-OBAMA days!

    Having a GUN only helps if you can get to your gun. THESE FOLKS aren’t scared to give you a GOOD ole 2 pcs SPECIAL with a side of Dirty EYE!

    • Without a doubt, that is the most stupid statement in the history of mankind.

    • Oh!!!! Under obama we have more crime wake up and smell the coffee honey. The country has became more racial more hate filled and more like a police state. Since he has became president. Can’t wait until dondal trump gets in. He will send all ileagels back where they belong. And obama with them.

    • You are a complete and total idiot and not worth wasting another second on. Loser!

    • Let’s change your name to Fig Newton because you are most certainly a fruit cake.

    • Obie is the world’s finest gun sales representative… ever. His words, every time he speaks, accounted for the massive increase in US gun sales, followed by a large drop in crime…… wherever the people were intelligent.
      Obie single handed by himself, is out selling every previous president. Even around safer, ‘gun free’ ‘Chiraq’.. (where he organized), the productive, tax Paying burbs are becoming concealed carry certified ….and armed.

    • What brand of Crack are you smoking Nigg.newtons ?

    • Well, living in CA, the LEGAL folks did not and will not vote Demo. They know that Demos are ruining their reputations, and hate the fact that illegals are being babied and given gifts,while they learned English and became citizens and no freebies! Every Mexican I know is legal and angry, so don’t think they will ever vote for Demos. Demos love to dream, but reality is wholly different and that is why they love voter cheating because otherwise, as in Florida, they lose big time.

    • Yeah sure they do, NOT!! Nothings been done for them by this administration, and if your talking about welfare, well that’s a codependent scheme all the way. Only stupid criminals will try and escalate crime when they don’t know whos carrying

    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Are you serious or merely a low info type, liberal, secular-progressive troll?

  3. The more desperate the left gets towards gun control, the more ludicrous their lies.

    • Unfortunately, ludicrous is not the same as believed. “If you tell a big enough lie often enough, it will become believed as the truth” Joseph Goebbels (often quoted as Adolph Hitler)

      • And repeated by:

        A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
        Vladimir Lenin

        • You mean tell lie enough times like Obama does then idiots believe him right

          • Examples of Obamas lies:

            I will have the most transparent administration in history.

            The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.

            I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.

            The IRS is not targeting anyone.

            It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.

            If I had a son., he would look like Travon Martin.

            I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds
            division, conflict and cynicism”.

            You didn’t build that!

            I will restore trust in Government.

            The Cambridge
            cops acted stupidly.

            The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my
            desk

            It’s not my red line – it is the world’s red line.

            Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.

            We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto
            companies, with interest.

            I am not spying on American citizens.

            Obama Care will be good for America .

            You can keep your family doctor.

            Premiums will be lowered by $2500.

            If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.

            It’s just like shopping at Amazon.

            I knew nothing about “Fast and Furious” gunrunning to
            Mexican drug cartels.

            I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.

            I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi .

            I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country
            illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20
            years ago.

            And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (
            12-05-2013 ) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.

            And the biggest
            one of all:

            “I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and
            defend the Constitution of the United States of America
            .”

          • I see you cut the list short! 🙂

          • The list grows daily. I can’t keep up.

          • A very nice job pineapple. Good work.

    • You have hit the nail right on the head!!! Ditto.

  4. Hey, maybe if we banned liberals, we could really drop the crime rate!

    • It is a known fact that under democrat control, everything falls apart and under republican government everything is repaired.

      Once a dominantly republican area becomes 15% or more democrat, crime rates increases by 50%. This is also a known fact.

      Obama destroys everything he touches and this is also a known fact.

      Now, can anyone tell even one good reason why this sociopath is still in power?

      • Fear and Money…

      • I don’t know how many in government are muslim besides Oboma but i’m convinced that Hillary and Kerry are muslims that’s a lot of the problem, I think that’s why Oboma is still in office! I can’t believe the Republicans we put in office are Lilly Livered Cowards and letting this dictator SOB stay in office, Nixon didn’t do crap this bad, if Nixon would have did half as much as Oboma they would have tossed him out on his head! I don’t know what we have to do to rid of this TYRANT but we need to do it now!

        • TeaParty Patriot

          They are not gonna impeach the 0webomb. He is a m’fker and to do anything to impede a m’fker is racist and being a racist is the nearest thing to death to a socialist.

          • If they were to impeach Obama, I think it would cause an all out race war in America!! I think, he should have NEVER been voted in, in the first place, but then I was called a racist everytime I said anything against him back then!

          • “IF” it were mathematically possible, which I know it isn’t, I’d be in 1,000,000% in agreement with you!!

          • “Common Core” would say it is possible, only old-school math says it isn’t. (By the way, most airliners were designed back in pre-common core engineering schools, as is evident in safety statistics)

          • TeaParty Patriot

            If that is one of the results of impeaching the 0webomb , I say impeach him tomorrow or sooner if possible. Lock and Load.

          • I got my Krag out of the closet locked and loaded. Oh and all my handguns too.

          • lock an load is not now in the picture–been that way for a while

          • Me too, I had black neighbors that were turned on by other blacks because they were voting for McCain in 2008, when someone would ask me if I was voting for Obama and I said “No”, immediately they called me a racist, and his color had nothing to do with it, I support Rep. blacks, I listen to what a candidate says, and their past, unfortunatly we don’t know all of Obama’s , still didn’t like his message.

          • There a LOT of people like that – I say, MLK was right. Judge a person by the content of his character – not the color of his skin! Unfortunately, the LEFT has no substantive argument to make IN FAVOR of DumBO’s idiocy, so they pull out the race card!!! It doesn’t work on me any more – think what you want to think about me, but I judge people on the content of their character. If they happen to brown, black, or green, and they are the spawn of Satan, I am going to say it!!!!

          • You dont need to justify who you vote for, they dont. If they want to play that card, then ask them if they voted for McCain and when they say NO, call them a Racist. Damn, that road runs both ways.
            The Race card has been played out and it has NO MEANING anymore. These idiots and that includes the White idiots have become ignorant over Race and it is sickening. Anyone with a brain can look at Obamas record with an open mind and ask WHY would you ever Vote for him. I guarantee you that IF a White man had Obama’s record as President, for one he NEVER would have been reelected and tow he probably wouldnt have finished the first term.

            Obama has turned the WH and the office into a laughing stock and it will take people years to ever trust the govt again, IF they do or ever can.
            Whats funny is that Obama has hurt race relations more then favoranyone could have ever imagined. He thinks he did them a favor, he didnt.-

          • I agree, I grew up watching Jim Crow laws go away, schools become for kids, not by color, although I don’t believe in busing, put kids on buses for as much as 2 hours a day, but with neighborhoods not being segregated, busing not needed, I’ve seen it go, nder this administration, from where blacks were welcome to reversing what had been done. a shame, I am a person who agrees with MLK, judge by the color of their heart , not the color of their skin

          • So why not a race war? and how do we know it would happen? Americans have more weapons than several armies together via other countries. Impeachment is out as we know he is an illegal and a traitor big time, so he can be arrested and his behind hauled out of OUR White House along with the frump and the administration he has installed – many of which are muslims. Communists they are with a bent towards sharia. He keeps bringing in more muslims which I call “sleepers” just awaiting the call, so be prepared for the bloodbath ahead if we want our country back. If you are a wuss, that’s okay but be careful when it all starts to heat up!

          • call me a racist all you want—but you are lying to your self—there is right an there is wrong—an today right is racist–so screw them idiots

          • He’s already pushing that, anyway. All of the increased black-on-white (and most anyone else not black) crime, and now the ridiculous attacks on the Confederacy, up to and including digging up graves and removing historical statues; it’s clear he wants such a war, so martial law can be brought into place, and he stays in office.

          • The Confederate flag needs to be raised,
            not lowered

            By Chuck Baldwin

            Ladies and gentlemen, I
            submit that what we see happening in the United States today is an apt
            illustration of why the Confederate flag was raised in the first place. What we
            see materializing before our very eyes is tyranny: tyranny over the freedom of
            expression, tyranny over the freedom of association, tyranny over the freedom
            of speech, and tyranny over the freedom of conscience.

            In 1864, Confederate General Patrick
            Cleburne warned his fellow southerners of the historical consequences should
            the South lose their war for independence. He was truly a prophet. He said if
            the South lost, “It means that the history of this heroic struggle will be
            written by the enemy. That our youth will be trained by Northern school
            teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the war; will
            be impressed by all of the influences of History and Education to regard our
            gallant debt as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for
            derision.” No truer words were ever spoken.

            History revisionists flooded America’s
            public schools with Northern propaganda about the people who attempted to
            secede from the United States, characterizing them as racists, extremists,
            radicals, hatemongers, traitors, etc. You know, the same way that people in our
            federal government and news media attempt to characterize Christians, patriots,
            war veterans, constitutionalists, et al. today.

            Folks, please understand that the only
            people in 1861 who believed that states did NOT have the right to secede were
            Abraham Lincoln and his radical Republicans. To say that southern states did
            not have the right to secede from the United States is to say that the thirteen
            colonies did not have the right to secede from Great Britain. One cannot be
            right and the other wrong. If one is right, both are right. How can we
            celebrate our Declaration of Independence in 1776 and then turn around and
            condemn the Declaration of Independence of the Confederacy in 1861? Talk about
            hypocrisy!

            In fact, southern states were not the only
            states that talked about secession. After the southern states seceded, the
            State of Maryland fully intended to join them. In September of 1861, Lincoln
            sent federal troops to the State capital and seized the legislature by force in
            order to prevent them from voting. Federal
            provost marshals stood guard at the polls and arrested Democrats and anyone
            else who believed in secession. A special furlough was granted to
            Maryland troops so they could go home and vote against secession. Judges who
            tried to inquire into the phony elections were arrested and thrown into
            military prisons. There is your great “emancipator,” folks.

            And before the South
            seceded, several northern states had also threatened secession. Massachusetts,
            Connecticut and Rhode Island had threatened secession as far back as James
            Madison’s administration. In addition, the states of New York, New Jersey,
            Pennsylvania, and Delaware were threatening secession during the first half of
            the nineteenth century – long before the southern states even considered such a
            thing.

            People say constantly that Lincoln
            “saved” the Union. Lincoln didn’t save the Union; he subjugated the
            Union. There is a huge difference. A union that
            is not voluntary is not a union. Does a man have a right to force a woman to
            marry him or to force a woman to stay married to him? In the eyes of
            God, a union of husband and wife is far superior to a union of states. If God
            recognizes the right of husbands and wives to separate (and He does), to try
            and suggest that states do not have the right to lawfully (under Natural and
            divine right) separate is the most preposterous proposition imaginable.

            People say that Lincoln freed the slaves.
            Lincoln did NOT free a single slave. But what
            he did do was enslave free men. His so-called Emancipation Proclamation
            had NO AUTHORITY in the southern states, as they had separated into another
            country. Imagine a President today signing a proclamation to free folks in,
            say, China or Saudi Arabia. He would be laughed out of Washington. Lincoln had no authority over the Confederate States
            of America, and he knew it.

            Do you not find it interesting that Lincoln’s proclamation did NOT free a
            single slave in the United States, the country in which he DID have authority?
            That’s right. The Emancipation Proclamation deliberately ignored slavery in the
            North. Do you not realize that when Lincoln signed his proclamation, there were
            over 300,000 slaveholders who were fighting in the Union army? Check it out.

            One of those northern slaveholders was
            General (and later U.S. President) Ulysses S. Grant. In fact, he maintained
            possession of his slaves even after the War Between the States concluded.
            Recall that his counterpart, Confederate General Robert E. Lee, freed his
            slaves BEFORE hostilities between North and South ever broke out. When asked
            why he refused to free his slaves, Grant said, “Good help is hard to find
            these days.”

            The institution of
            slavery did not end until the 13th Amendment was ratified on December 6, 1865.

            Speaking of the 13th Amendment, did you know that Lincoln authored his own 13th
            Amendment? It is the only amendment to the Constitution ever proposed by a
            sitting U.S. President. Here is Lincoln’s
            proposed amendment: “No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which
            will authorize or give Congress the power to abolish or interfere within any
            state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that a person’s held to
            labor or service by laws of said State.”

            You read it right. Lincoln proposed an amendment to the U.S. Constitution
            PRESERVING the institution of slavery. This proposed amendment was written in
            March of 1861, a month BEFORE the shots were fired at Fort Sumter, South
            Carolina.

            The State of South Carolina was
            particularly incensed at the tariffs enacted in 1828 and 1832. The Tariff of
            1828 was disdainfully called, “The Tariff
            of Abominations” by the State of South Carolina. Accordingly, the
            South Carolina legislature declared that the tariffs of 1828 and 1832 were
            “unauthorized by the constitution of the United States.”

            Think, folks: why would
            the southern states secede from the Union over slavery when President Abraham
            Lincoln had offered an amendment to the Constitution guaranteeing the
            PRESERVATION of slavery? That makes no sense. If the issue was predominantly
            slavery, all the South needed to do was to go along with Lincoln, and his
            proposed 13th Amendment would have permanently preserved slavery among the
            southern (and northern) states. Does that sound like a body of people who were
            willing to lose hundreds of thousands of men on the battlefield over saving
            slavery? What nonsense!

            The problem was Lincoln
            wanted the southern states to pay the Union a 40% tariff on their exports. The South
            considered this outrageous and refused to pay. By the time hostilities broke
            out in 1861, the South was paying up to, and perhaps exceeding, 70% of the
            nation’s taxes. Before the war, the South was very prosperous and productive.
            And Washington, D.C., kept raising the taxes and tariffs on them. You know, the
            way Washington, D.C., keeps raising the taxes on prosperous American citizens
            today.

            This is much the same
            story of the way the colonies refused to pay the demanded tariffs of the
            British Crown – albeit the tariffs of the Crown were MUCH lower than those
            demanded by Lincoln. Lincoln’s proposed 13th Amendment was an attempt to entice
            the South into paying the tariffs by being willing to permanently ensconce the
            institution of slavery into the Constitution. AND THE SOUTH SAID NO!

            In addition, the Congressional Record of
            the United States forever obliterates the notion that the North fought the War
            Between the States over slavery. Read it for yourself. This resolution was
            passed unanimously in the U.S. Congress on July 23, 1861, “The War is
            waged by the government of the United States not in the spirit of conquest or
            subjugation, nor for the purpose of overthrowing or interfering with the rights
            or institutions of the states, but to defend and protect the Union.”

            What could be clearer? The U.S. Congress
            declared that the war against the South was NOT an attempt to overthrow or
            interfere with the “institutions” of
            the states, but to keep the Union intact (by force). The
            “institutions” implied most certainly included the institution of
            slavery.

            Hear it loudly and clearly: Lincoln’s war against the South had NOTHING to do
            with ending slavery – so said the U.S. Congress by unanimous resolution in
            1861.

            Abraham Lincoln, himself, said it was NEVER
            his intention to end the institution of slavery. In a letter to Alexander
            Stevens who later became the Vice President of the Confederacy, Lincoln wrote
            this, “Do the people of the South really entertain fears that a Republican
            administration would directly, or indirectly, interfere with their slaves, or
            with them, about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you, as once a
            friend, and still, I hope, not an enemy, that there is no cause for such fears.
            The South would be in no more danger in this respect than it was in the days of
            Washington.”

            Again, what could be clearer? Lincoln,
            himself, said the southern states had nothing to fear from him in regard to
            abolishing slavery.

            Hear Lincoln again: “If I could save
            the Union without freeing any slave I would do it.” He also said, “I
            have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of
            slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do
            so and I have no inclination to do so.”

            The idea that the Confederate flag
            (actually there were five of them) stood for racism, bigotry, hatred, and
            slavery is just so much hogwash. In fact, if one truly wants to discover who
            the racist was in 1861, just read the words of Mr. Lincoln.

            On August 14, 1862,
            Abraham Lincoln invited a group of black people to the White House. In his
            address to them, he told them of his plans to colonize them all back to Africa.
            Listen to what he told these folks: “Why should the people of your race be
            colonized and where? Why should they leave this country? This is, perhaps, the
            first question for proper consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us
            a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it
            is right or wrong I need not discuss; but this physical difference is a great
            disadvantage to us both, as I think. Your race suffers very greatly, many of
            them, by living among us, while ours suffers from your presence. In a word, we
            suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason, at least, why we
            should be separated. You here are freemen, I suppose? Perhaps you have been
            long free, or all your lives. Your race is suffering, in my judgment, the
            greatest wrong inflicted on any people. But even when you cease to be slaves,
            you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race.
            The aspiration of men is to enjoy equality with the best when free, but on this
            broad continent not a single man of your race is made the equal of a single man
            of our race.”

            Did you hear what Lincoln
            said? He said that black people would NEVER be equal with white people – even
            if they all obtained their freedom from slavery. If that isn’t a racist
            statement, I’ve never heard one.

            Lincoln’s statement above is not isolated. In Charleston, Illinois, in 1858,
            Lincoln said in a speech, “I am not, nor have ever been, in favor of
            bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and
            black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of
            negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white
            people; I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference
            between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two
            races from living together on social or political equality. And inasmuch as
            they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position
            of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having
            the superior position assigned to the white.”

            Ladies and gentlemen, in
            his own words, Abraham Lincoln declared himself to be a white supremacist. Why
            don’t our history books and news media tell the American people the truth about
            Lincoln and about the War Between the States?

            It’s simple: if people would study the meanings and history of the flag,
            symbols, and statues of the Confederacy and Confederate leaders, they might
            begin to awaken to the tyrannical policies of Washington, D.C., that precluded
            southern independence – policies that have only escalated since the defeat of
            the Confederacy – and they might have a notion to again resist.

            By the time Lincoln penned his Emancipation
            Proclamation, the war had been going on for two years without resolution. In
            fact, the North was losing the war. Even though the South was outmanned and
            out-equipped, the genius of the southern generals and fighting acumen of the
            southern men had put the northern armies on their heels. Many people in the
            North never saw the legitimacy of Lincoln’s war in the first place, and many of
            them actively campaigned against it. These people were affectionately called
            “Copperheads” by people in the South.

            I urge you to watch Ron Maxwell’s accurate
            depiction of those people in the North who favored the southern cause as
            depicted in his motion picture, “Copperhead.” For that matter, I
            consider his movie, “Gods And Generals” to be the greatest
            “Civil War” movie ever made. It is the most accurate and fairest
            depiction of Confederate General Thomas Jonathan “Stonewall” Jackson
            ever produced. In my opinion, actor Stephen Lang should have received an Oscar
            for his performance as General Jackson. But, can you imagine?

            That’s another thing: the war fought from
            1861 to 1865 was NOT a “civil war.” Civil war suggests two sides
            fighting for control of the same capital and country. The South didn’t want to
            take over Washington, D.C., no more than their forebears wanted to take over
            London. They wanted to separate from Washington, D.C., just as America’s
            Founding Fathers wanted to separate from Great Britain. The proper names for
            that war are either, “The War Between the States” or, “The War
            of Southern Independence,” or, more fittingly, “The War of Northern
            Aggression.”

            Had the South wanted to take over
            Washington, D.C., they could have done so with the very first battle of the
            “Civil War.” When Lincoln ordered federal troops to invade Virginia
            in the First Battle of Manassas (called the “First Battle of Bull
            Run” by the North), Confederate troops sent the Yankees running for their
            lives all the way back to Washington. Had the Confederates pursued them, they
            could have easily taken the city of Washington, D.C., seized Abraham Lincoln,
            and perhaps ended the war before it really began. But General Beauregard and
            the others had no intention of fighting an aggressive war against the North.
            They merely wanted to defend the South against the aggression of the North.

            In order to rally people in the North,
            Lincoln needed a moral crusade. That’s what his Emancipation Proclamation was
            all about. This explains why his proclamation was not penned until 1863, after
            two years of fruitless fighting. He was counting on people in the North to stop
            resisting his war against the South if they thought it was some kind of
            “holy” war. Plus, Lincoln was hoping that his proclamation would
            incite blacks in the South to insurrect against southern whites. If thousands
            of blacks would begin to wage war against their white neighbors, the fighting
            men of the southern armies would have to leave the battlefields and go home to
            defend their families. THIS NEVER HAPPENED.

            Not only did blacks not riot against the
            whites of the south, many black men volunteered to fight alongside their white
            friends and neighbors in the Confederate army. Unlike the blacks in the North,
            who were conscripted by Lincoln and forced to fight in segregated units,
            thousands of blacks in the South fought of their own free will in a
            fully-integrated southern army. I bet your history book never told you about
            that.

            If one wants to ban a racist flag, one
            would have to ban the British flag. Ships bearing the Union Jack shipped over 5
            million African slaves to countries all over the world, including the British
            colonies in North America. Other slave ships flew the Dutch flag and the
            Portuguese flag and the Spanish flag, and, yes, the U.S. flag. But not one
            single slave ship flew the Confederate flag. NOT ONE!

            By the time Lincoln launched his war
            against the southern states, slavery was already a dying institution. The
            entire country, including the South, recognized the moral evil of slavery and
            wanted it to end. Only a small fraction of southerners even owned slaves. The
            slave trade had ended in 1808, per the U.S. Constitution, and the practice of
            slavery was quickly dying, too. In another few years, with the advent of
            agricultural machinery, slavery would have ended peacefully – just like it had
            in England. It didn’t take a national war and the deaths of over a half million
            men to end slavery in Great Britain. America’s so-called “Civil War”
            was absolutely unnecessary. The greed of Lincoln’s radical Republicans in the
            North, combined with the cold, calloused heart of Lincoln himself is
            responsible for the tragedy of the “Civil War.”

            And look at what is happening now: in one
            instant – after one deranged young man killed nine black people and who
            ostensibly photo-shopped a picture of himself with a Confederate flag – the
            entire political and media establishments in the country go on an all-out
            crusade to remove all semblances of the Confederacy. The speed in which all of this
            has happened suggests that this was a planned, orchestrated event by the Powers
            That Be (PTB). And is it a mere coincidence that this took place at the exact
            same time that the U.S. Supreme Court decided to legalize same-sex marriage? I
            think not.

            The Confederate Battle Flag flies the Saint
            Andrews cross. Of course, Andrew was the first disciple of Jesus Christ,
            brother of Simon Peter, and Christian martyr who was crucified on an X-shaped
            cross at around the age of 90. Andrew is the patron saint of both Russia and
            Scotland.

            In the 1800s, up to 75% of people in the
            South were either Scotch or Scotch-Irish. The Confederate Battle Flag is
            predicated on the national flag of Scotland. It is a symbol of the Christian
            faith and heritage of the Celtic race.

            Pastor John Weaver rightly observed,
            “Even the Confederate States motto, ‘Deovendickia,’ (The Lord is our
            Vindicator), illustrates the sovereignty and the righteousness of God. The
            Saint Andrews cross is also known as the Greek letter CHIA (KEE) and has historically
            been used to represent Jesus Christ. Why do you think people write Merry X-mas,
            just to give you an illustration? The ‘X’ is the Greek letter CHIA and it has
            been historically used for Christ. Moreover, its importance was understood by
            educated and uneducated people alike. When an uneducated man, one that could
            not write, needed to sign his name please tell me what letter he made? An ‘X,’
            why? Because he was saying I am taking an oath under God. I am recognizing the
            sovereignty of God, the providence of God and I am pledging my faith. May I
            tell you the Confederate Flag is indeed a Christian flag because it has the
            cross of Saint Andrew, who was a Christian martyr, and the letter ‘X’ has
            always been used to represent Christ, and to attack the flag is to deny the
            sovereignty, the majesty, and the might of the Lord Jesus Christ and his divine
            role in our history, culture, and life.”

            Many of the facts that I reference in this
            column were included in a message delivered several years ago by Pastor John
            Weaver. I want to thank John for preaching such a powerful and needed message.
            Read or watch Pastor Weaver’s sermon “The Truth About The Confederate
            Battle Flag” here:

            The Truth About The
            Confederate Battle Flag

            Combine the current attacks against
            Biblical and traditional marriage, the attacks against all things Confederate,
            the attacks against all things Christian, and the attacks against all things
            constitutional and what we are witnessing is a heightened example of why the
            Confederate Battle Flag was created to begin with. Virtually every act of
            federal usurpation of liberty that we are witnessing today, and have been
            witnessing for much of the twentieth century, is the result of Lincoln’s war
            against the South. Truly, we are living in Lincoln’s America, not Washington
            and Jefferson’s America. Washington and Jefferson’s America died at Appomattox
            Court House in 1865.

            Instead of lowering the Confederate flag,
            we should be raising it.

            © Chuck Baldwin

          • Thank you for taking the time to write all that so people that have not studied history can better understand what really took place. I often explain this (as you did) to people and they didn’t know any of that information. They weren’t taught it in school or was but they had no interest in history so didn’t retain what was being taught. I highly doubt this history was even taught in the northern states.

          • Historical Ignorance

            By Walter E. Williams · Jul. 15, 2015

            The victors of war
            write its history in order to cast themselves in the most favorable light. That
            explains the considerable historical ignorance about our war of 1861 and panic
            over the Confederate flag. To create better understanding, we have to start a
            bit before the 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia.

            The 1783 Treaty of
            Paris ended the war between the colonies and Great Britain. Its first article
            declared the 13 colonies “to be free, sovereign and independent states.” These
            13 sovereign nations came together in 1787 as principals and created the
            federal government as their agent. Principals have always held the right to
            fire agents. In other words, states held a right to withdraw from the pact —
            secede.

            During the 1787
            Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made that would allow the federal
            government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison rejected it, saying, “A
            union of the states containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own
            destruction. The use of force against a state would look more like a
            declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be
            considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by
            which it might be bound.”

            In fact, the
            ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode
            Island explicitly said they held the right to resume
            powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers.
            The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could
            not regain their sovereignty — in a word, secede.

            On March 2, 1861,
            after seven states seceded and two days before Abraham Lincoln’s inauguration,
            Sen. James R. Doolittle of Wisconsin proposed
            a constitutional amendment that read, “No state or any part thereof, heretofore
            admitted or hereafter admitted into the union, shall have the power to withdraw
            from the jurisdiction of the United
            States.”

            Several months
            earlier, Reps. Daniel E. Sickles of New York,
            Thomas B. Florence of Pennsylvania and Otis S.
            Ferry of Connecticut
            proposed a constitutional amendment to prohibit secession. Here’s a question
            for the reader: Would there have been any point to offering these amendments if
            secession were already unconstitutional?

            On the eve of the War
            of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Rep.
            Jacob M. Kunkel of Maryland
            said, “Any attempt to preserve the union between the states of this Confederacy
            by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty.”

            Both Northern
            Democratic and Republican Parties favored allowing the South to secede in
            peace. Just about every major Northern newspaper editorialized in favor of the
            South’s right to secede. New York Tribune (Feb. 5, 1860): “If tyranny and
            despotism justified the Revolution of 1776, then we do not see why it would not
            justify the secession of Five Millions of Southrons from the Federal Union in
            1861.” Detroit Free Press (Feb. 19, 1861): “An attempt to subjugate the seceded
            states, even if successful, could produce nothing but evil — evil unmitigated
            in character and appalling in content.” The New York Times (March 21, 1861):
            “There is growing sentiment throughout the North in favor of letting the Gulf States go.”

            The War of 1861
            settled the issue of secession through brute force that cost 600,000 American
            lives. We Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, but H.L.
            Mencken correctly evaluated the speech: “It is poetry, not logic; beauty, not
            sense.” Lincoln
            said the soldiers sacrificed their lives “to the cause of self-determination —
            that government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish
            from the earth.” Mencken says: “It is difficult to imagine anything more
            untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against
            self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people
            to govern themselves.”

            The War of 1861
            brutally established that states could not secede. We are still living with its
            effects. Because states cannot secede, the federal government can run roughshod
            over the U.S. Constitution’s limitations of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.
            States have little or no response.

          • Excellent post…

          • Abraham Lincoln was a racist who was also guilty of
            war crimes and is responsible for the deaths of 600,000 Americans.

            In 1858, during a debate with
            Stephen Douglas, Abraham Lincoln said: “I am not, nor ever have been, in favor
            of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and
            black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or
            jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry
            with white people….” (Google Lincoln-Douglas debates.)

            It is commonly taught that
            the War Between the States was about the abolition of slavery. Actually, the
            impetus for the war was due to a tariff placed on imported goods coming through
            Southern sea ports by a Northern dominated Congress. This tariff was referred
            to by Southerners as the Tariff of Abominations and nearly caused South Carolina to secede from the Union.
            Andrew Jackson threatened to send
            federal troops to Charleston if South Carolina refused to collect the tariff and send it
            to Washington.
            (See “Kearney’s
            March” by Winston Groom.)

            This tariff was used to build
            roads and bridges in the northern states while the south was left to fend for
            itself.

            Senator William Grayson of Virginia expressed concern that the South would
            eventually become the “milch cow” of the Union.

            When the southern states
            threatened secession, Lincoln
            was asked why he didn’t just let the South go. He said: ”Let the South go? Let
            the South go! Where then shall we get our revenues?”(See “Memoirs of Service
            Afloat” by Raphael Semmes.)

            Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation excluded slave states
            that remained in the Union and certain parishes in Louisiana that were under control of Union
            troops. It only applied to states in the Confederacy, which was a sovereign
            nation, over which Lincoln
            had no legal authority.

            Therefore, his proclamation
            did not free slaves anywhere.

            Slaves were eventually freed
            by passage of the Thirteenth Amendment on December 6th, 1865.

            Some of the many atrocities
            committed by Lincoln’s
            Union Army are as follows:

            1.
            Lincoln ordered General Sherman to “make Georgia howl.” So Sherman
            marched through Georgia
            burning not only towns, villages, factories and grist mills, but also burning
            crops, leaving women, children, and the elderly to starve. Sherman captured more than two thousand white
            women and children who were sent to the North to work at sustenance level pay,
            making them virtual slaves for the Yankees. They were never returned to their
            families.

            2.
            Union Colonel
            John B. Turchin was court-martialed for letting his troops “plunder and pillage
            the inhabitants” of Athens,
            Alabama, and allowing several of
            his soldiers to commit rape on the person of a colored girl. After being
            convicted, Turchhin was promoted to the rank of Brigadier General by Abraham
            Lincoln and continued to serve in the Union Army until Oct 4, 1864.

            3.
            In Marion County
            Missouri, Gen. John McNeil threw southern sympathizers in jail for expressing a
            pro-Southern point of view. When a Union informer came up missing, McNeil
            threatened to kill ten of these men if the informer did not show up. When the
            informer didn’t show up, these men were summarily executed. Shortly afterwards,
            McNeil was promoted to Brigadier General by Lincoln.

            4.
            In 1862, several tribes of Native Americans
            revolted against the cruel policies of the United States government. This
            caused Minnesotans to fear for their safety. General John Pope rounded up 300
            warriors, out of which Lincoln
            selected thirty nine to be executed. These Native Americans were executed to
            assuage the fears of white Minnesotans so they would vote for the re-election
            of Lincoln,
            which they did. (For details of the above and other atrocities, see, “The South
            was Right” by James and Walter Kennedy.)

            By invading The Confederate
            States of America, a
            sovereign nation, Lincoln
            caused the death of 600,000 Americans, not to end slavery but to hold on to
            power.

          • We can lay the responsibility for the Civil War at the doorstep of DC, in concert with all the Northern States.

          • He’s right. I have found myself tempted to locate one, and place it on the house.

          • I am not a racist, however,
            there are no words to describe
            such a visceral hatred.
            Has nothing to do with his color, (he is not black ya know)
            It has everything to do with who & what he is .
            I don’t think there is enough in him that is good even to use as fertilizer for flowers.
            I think it would wilt them to death.
            TRUMP is our only hope at this point, without all out revolution.

          • Impeachment is useless.
            He would still remain in office .
            Further, to impeach we would have to assume he holds the office of POTUS Legally, & he does not
            We are a Nation under occupation by the enemy, in the highest office in the land.
            I am looking forward to the day he meets the same end as his namesake, hussein.

          • I think that there are many Blacks in this country who are totally disgusted over the gay marriage issue AND the immigration issue. I am not so sure the race war would be any worse than the divisiveness we have now – thanks to Holder, DumBO, Sharpton, and their ilk.

        • Agreed.

        • I don’t know if this is current or not but here goes! May be out of date.

          MUSLIMS IN THE WHITE
          HOUSE:
          It checks out with Google
          and Snopes…
          Did you know that we now
          have a Muslim government?

          John Brennan, current head
          of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia .

          Obama’s top advisor,
          Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live.

          Hillary Clinton’s top
          advisor, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the
          now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt .

          Assistant Secretary for
          Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim.

          Homeland Security Advisor,
          Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim.

          Obama advisor and founder
          of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim.

          Obama’s Sharia Czar, Imam
          Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim.

          Advisory Council on
          Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim.

          And last but not least,
          our closet Muslim himself, Barack Hussein Obama.

          • What “galls” me more than anything else is, the G.D. stupidity of the American voters!! They voted for this B.S. not once, but TWICE!!! Which, to me, proves they’re TWICE as G.D. stupid as I originally thought they were!!!! I hope these dim-wits enjoy living with what they asked for,……I sure as hell don’t!!!!

          • I didn’t vote for Ovomit either time UNLESS I voted at one of those rigged voting machine then my Republican vote became a vote for a DumboRAT! To the best of my knowledge I DID NOT VOTE FOR OVOMIT!!

          • RICHMOND, Va. – A crosscheck
            of voter rolls in Virginia and Maryland turned
            up 44,000 people registered in both states, a vote-integrity
            group reported Wednesday.

            And that’s just the beginning.

            “The Virginia Voters Alliance is investigating how to
            identify voters who are registered and vote in Virginia but live in the states that
            surround us,” Alliance President Reagan George told the State Board of
            Elections.

            George acknowledged that the number of voters
            who actually cast multiple ballots is relatively small. In the case of Maryland and Virginia,
            he revealed that 164 people voted in both states during the 2012 election.

            But George said his group will expand their
            search for duplicate voters in the District of Columbia,
            Pennsylvania, New York,
            New Jersey, Delaware,
            North Carolina, Tennessee,
            West Virginia and Georgia.

            “We are also determining the best way to
            identify non-citizens who have registered to vote and may have voted in past
            elections,” George said.

            Working with the Privileges and Elections
            committees of the state House and Senate, VVA identified 31,000 dead voters via
            the Social Security Administration’s Death Master File. Subsequent processing
            by SBE found 40,000 to 60,000 dead voter registrations.

            “Dead voter registrations are prime targets for voter fraud which generate few
            complaints,” George noted.

            Appearing with Clara Belle Wheeler of the
            Albemarle County,Va., Election Board and Jay DeLancy of the North Carolina
            Voter Integrity Project, George challenged the SBE to:

            Tighten
            Virginia’s
            voter ID law that allows absentee voters to use mailed ballots without
            affirming their identity.

            Check
            the 50,000-plus patient beds in Virginia
            nursing homes and rehab centers
            amid reports of voting irregularities there.

            Require
            proof of citizenship to register to vote. Kansas
            and Arizona
            require this.

            Annually
            audit felons who are not allowed to vote.

            “Certain
            nonviolent felons, especially those who commit voter fraud, should never
            be given back their right to vote,” George said.

            More broadly, George said, “Virginia must control the registration
            process, as well as the form used to register voters. The current system is the
            perfect vehicle for identity theft and ‘lost’ registrations.”

            “There needs to be a clearinghouse for all
            voter fraud referrals statewide,” he said. “The SBE would be the perfect place
            to assume that role and provide transparency for the public.”

            DeLancy and Wheeler urged the board to open
            its voter-crosscheck data to the public and to publicize cases of voter fraud.

            DeLancy said groups that downplay or dismiss
            the incidence of ongoing voting irregularities use “pretzel logic.”

            “If prosecutors don’t prosecute, there’s no
            ‘crime,’” he noted.

            The three-member state board —
            controlled by Republicans until the end of the year — took VVA’s
            recommendations under advisement.

            If you haven’t already, be sure to check out
            “Deputy loses it on retired Marine who was
            taping her entire meltdown.”

            Published with permission from Watchdog.org

          • There was a time if you had not voted in a certain number of elections, you were notified to renew registration by voting next election or be purged, I know both Florida and Virginia did this, also you had to turn in Voter’s card when reg. in another state and show proof of residency to reg. We showed lease when renting, or a Utility bill, when moved to Fla. showed our Deed and Elec., laws TOO lax now, leaves room for mass fraud. Va. does require picture ID at this time, step in right direction.

          • They should purge all Civil War veterans who voted for George McClellan in 1864.

          • he was elected by ADMITTED “multi voters and dead people!

          • That has always been the standard democrat election.

          • cmi sad but your right

          • He was not ELECTED. He was INSTALLED, & our OWN GOVT pushed it!!
            If you think he wasn’t groomed to do what he has & is doing, please think again.

          • Yes, jimmy Carter stated that we were just about ready to elect a homosexual president, then Henry Kissinger stated that Ovamit was put in to get the NWO going, the whole government is Islamic communists, no one questioned all ovamits appointees all being Islamic’s and probably all cksuckers too. We don’t have a white house, we have the house of Sodom and when they all get gonorrhea and throat cancer, that will be a big time for praising the Lord.

          • We real Americans, the hard working types, call these people “sheeple” (people + sheep) that follow the “free money, phones, housing, food stamps, WIC” and a multitude of other hand outs. They are incapable of thinking for themselves and rely on others to tell how to vote by coercion, money, favors …. Their motto: vote early and often, in as many precincts as possible, with bussed in unions, indigents and/or nursing homes, using incarcerated, dead and/or imaginary family and/or friends with Disney character names. Mostly the radical liberal, progressive, commie (rlpc) elements are behind the events. It’s one reason the demowit coffers are always broke and why the likes of Georgie Soros’ money are at the forefront of all ripc “donations”. This is why proper voter ID laws are important. Do we want to become the USSA?!?! I don’t. I liked the pre 1960s America just the way it was.

          • I worked in a job that let me talk to as many people as I wanted and they were from ALL the various neighborhoods in a large city. I believe that in the first election Obama actually won. It was for really dumb reasons but he did seem to get the votes. The two main reasons he got votes were by being black. (they were half right there) The other main reason is pathetic. People voted for him because “he isn’t George Bush.” It seems that many of the people I was talking to could not understand that George Bush was not running in that election. That is sad and stupid.

            In the next election there was a brand new element and I’m afraid it carried the day. Obama brought in new voting machines to save the poor dumb Americans from their own stupidity. These machines were owned, operated and maintained by off shore Obama supporters. They could enter the machines electronically from their off shore locations and “fix any problems” that came up. No more dangling chads or people not smart enough to make a hole in a piece of paper or make a check mark or write a name. Aside from people being able to control these machines, people who could not legally even be involved in the election process, these machines do not keep any records of changes or anything that occurs on them. In the end all you get is a final count. Therefore Obama supporters were in charge of what votes registered. I had spoken to most of the same folks I had in the first election plus many more because we had added new programs and agencies and from this I fully expect Obama was in for a single term. The majority of those I spoke to this time were not planning to vote Obama. Yet Obama won. Now comes an even more amazing thing. These machines are not used in the off year elections. In 2010 using the regular machines Obama’s socialist were crushed. In 2012 with the SPECIAL machines Obama won easily. In 2014 with out the super machines the democrats were again crushed. In 2016 unless something is done to prevent it the outside controlled machines will be back. Without those machines Obama would have lost his second term and America might have survived. Right now I find it doubtful for us to survive but I know that if these machines are used in 2016 the democrats will win and it might even be Obama. He will be Caliph by then.

          • We may need the 2nd American Revolution before this is over; Obozo knows that, and that’s why he & Killary want our guns!

          • We need Trump NOW more than ever.

          • Sadly, it is true.

          • Keith Ellison.

          • There are many more like that in this administration, it’s a big incestuous cage full of wives, in-laws, cousins, and others holding various federal offices and Leftist organization posts. The DC political toilet is overflowing, and needs a thorough flushing in next year’s election. Vote GOP and restore freedom and prosperity to our former beloved nation!

          • Check out how many of obama people are related to or married to most of the media heads, aka: NBC, CBS, ABC etc. You will be shocked but will open your eyes to the liberal media and the slants/tone they put on everything conservative.

          • I went looking through my emails and couldn’t find the email listing them! Could you please provide a link!! Pretty please with a cherry on top! LOL!

          • charles johnston

            Thank you Codger. With your permission, I will copy this and circulate here in NC. Good list and even worse than I thought.

          • Be my guest BUT like I stated “I don’t know how current it is or was”!

          • charles johnston

            Had a list from another source, but yours looks better. Be well, from another old codger.

          • You’re correct; we now have a de facto Muslim administration!

        • NOW!! DUMP OBAMA!!

        • Nixon was white. Oboy claims to be black, even though he is only a small percentage black. The black democrats in Congress blindly support him and the whites in Congress don’t want to be seen as racist and impeach him. They are more worried about reelection or that cushy six figure K St. job than they are about the country and the damage being done to it.

        • Just Sharing Some Historical Facts.

          To: Obama:

          It

          was you who told an Islamic dinner – “I am one of you.”

          It

          was you who on ABC News referenced – “My Muslim faith.”

          It

          was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build

          foreign mosques.

          It

          was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict -“I will stand with the

          Muslims.”

          It

          was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that – “I am a

          Muslim.”

          It

          was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi king.

          It

          was you who sat for 20 yrs in a Liberation

          Theology Church

          condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.

          It

          was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us

          have to pay.

          It

          was you who purposefully omitted – “endowed by our Creator” – from

          your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.

          It

          was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ’s Sermon On The Mount while

          repeatedly referring to the ‘HOLY’ Quran.

          It

          was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America.

          It

          was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the

          building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of

          the World Trade Center.

          It

          was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to

          host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the WH.

          It

          was you who ordered both Georgetown
          Univ. and Notre Dame to
          shroud all vestiges

          of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast,

          you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited adjust their decor.

          It

          was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.

          It

          was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.

          It

          was you who said that NASA’s “foremost mission” was an outreach to

          Muslim communities.

          It

          was you who as an Illinois Senator were the ONLY individual who would speak in

          favor of infanticide.

          It

          was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the

          WH, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.

          It

          was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.

          It

          was you who refused to condemn the Ft.

          Hood killer as an Islamic

          terrorist.

          It

          is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women

          throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of

          hypothetical human-rights abuses.

          It

          was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of

          radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that

          is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.

          It

          was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.

          It

          was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new

          commemorative stamp.

          It

          was you who directed our UK

          Embassy to conduct outreach to help “empower” the British Muslim

          community.

          It

          was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to

          overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.

          It

          was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar

          schools across our country.

          It

          is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during

          Ramadam.

          It

          is you who departs for Hawaii

          over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating

          in seasonal WH religious events.

          It

          was you who was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim

          Brotherhood to depose Egypt’s
          Hosni Mubarak, formerly America’s
          strongest ally

          in North Africa; but, remain muted in your
          non-response to the Brotherhood led

          slaughter of Egyptian Christians.

          It

          Was you who attended school in Indonesia
          where your school records listed your religion as “Islam”.

          It

          Was you who, while living in Indonesia,
          attended the Mosque with your stepfather on Fridays.

          It

          was you who appointed s your chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett , who is a member

          of the Muslim Sisterhood, an off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

          It was you who allowed Valerie Jarrett, (born
          in Iran) to negotiate a secret treaty with Iran that would allow them to continue
          developing nuclear weapons without fear of further sanctions by the U.S.

          It

          was you who freed five Muslim terrorists from GITMO without giving Congress a

          thirty day notice as required by a law that YOU signed.

          It

          Was you who brought hordes of Muslim refugees
          to the U.S.
          to be supported by taxpayers, while ignoring Christian refugees who were being
          slaughtered by Muslims.

          It was you who approved the change in the U.S. military
          dress code to allow men to grow beards and to wear Turbans

          Do

          we really need to go on?

          Barack,

          you may be a lot of things; but, for certainty, you are no Christian.

          Obama,

          who refers to himself as: “A man of Africa”,

          is precisely the type of ‘divided loyalties” individual that our Founders

          attempted to prohibit from ascendancy to the presidency when they constructed

          our Constitution.

          • Whole truth and nothing but the truth. Thank you again. And obama has NEVER tried to hide ANY of that. He does it out in the open for everyone to see and hear. So why are there so many people that deny this?? They don’t believe their own eyes and ears? Or they just don’t truly understand what he is saying, right to their face? Blinded !!! People that do not seek the truth, will never find the truth. They will live in blindness.

          • Speaking of lies, see the following:

            I will have the most transparent administration in history.

            The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.

            I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.

            The IRS is not targeting anyone.

            It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.

            If I had a son., he would look like Travon Martin.

            I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds
            division, conflict and cynicism”.

            You didn’t build that!

            I will restore trust in Government.

            The Cambridge
            cops acted stupidly.

            The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my
            desk

            It’s not my red line – it is the world’s red line.

            Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.

            We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto
            companies, with interest.

            I am not spying on American citizens.

            Obama Care will be good for America .

            You can keep your family doctor.

            Premiums will be lowered by $2500.

            If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.

            It’s just like shopping at Amazon.

            I knew nothing about “Fast and Furious” gunrunning to
            Mexican drug cartels.

            I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.

            I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi .

            I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country
            illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20
            years ago.

            And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (
            12-05-2013 ) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.

            And the biggest
            one of all:

            “I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and
            defend the Constitution of the United States of America
            .”

          • Thank you for an enlightening reminder.
            Excellent post!!!!

          • Good words, but I would recommend an edit to eliminate the extra spaces, so more are likely to read them. Sometimes, quoted passages space out like that.

        • If Barack Obama had been in office during the time Richard Nixon was, he would have been imprisoned before his first term ended. We live in a very different world today. Frankly obama would never have been in the White House given the atmosphere of the 1970s. We worked a lot harder for what we had back then and were not so easily duped as young voters are today.

        • Nixon has proven himself to be a REAL man of honor. He didnt have to step down, he could have stayed just like B Clinton did and Obama would.
          Nixon did the honorable thing.
          Today, we need to rewrite the books that allows us to throw them out on their backside when they chose not to leave.
          I also believe that if impeached and they will not leave, those under the President should be follow his orders anymore and the military will politely remove IT from Our WH.

        • Nixon was tossed out on his, it was not his head but the butt.

          • There’s no difference!

          • The Viet Nam war was started by Eisenhower, who sent “advisers to Viet Nam. It was continued by Kennedy (a Democrat), who continued sending “advisers”. when Kennedy was killed, Lyndon Johnson, (a Democrat),continued sending “advisers”, until about 58,000 Americans were killed. Then Nixon stopped sending “advisers”, and the war was ended.

      • Liberals have a lock on stuffing ballot boxes…is that a surprise?

      • NOPE ! Illegal votes ! that is what elected him. AND I do not mean Illegal People – it was unions that created this problem. They tried real hard to get their man into office.. SO they could control the strings. Guess what – SOROS – is pulling the strings .

        • Ever wonder why Republicans want voter ID.?

          * In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia
          region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded
          for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

          * In
          21 districts in Wood County Ohio, Obama received 100% of the votes where GOP
          inspectors were illegally removed from their polling locations – and not one
          single vote was recorded for Romney. (Another statistical impossibility).

          * In
          Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only 98,213 eligible
          voters.

          * In
          St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered eligible voters but 247,713
          votes were cast.

          *
          The National SEAL Museum,
          a polling location in St. Lucie County, FL had a 158% voter turnout.

          * Palm Beach County, FL
          had a 141% voter turnout.

          * In
          one Ohio County, Obama won by 108% of the
          total number of eligible voters.

          NOTE:
          Obama won in
          every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in
          order to vote.
          Imagine that…..

          ARE
          WE THE DUMBEST NATION ON THE PLANET OR WHAT.?

      • jimmy this one is easy to answer—WE let him be

      • They are afraid. There is a spiritual battle in play here as well as a political one.

      • Vernon Cunningham

        because he is black. ( mostly).

      • Because of a bunch of spineless republicans.

      • A friend of mine, retired cop, said there arethose who live among us simply because it is illegal to kill them ! 🙂

      • Socialist, Liberals, Alinsky Radicals, whatever you want to call them have taken up key positions within the MEDIA, Both Political Parties, Schools, Unions, Businesses, and the Court system.

        0bama succeeds because he has the support of the Liberal Media, he has spies in the Republican Party (Boehner, McConnell, Bush (?)) Courts (Roberts, Kennedy) etc.

        We must fight on every front or the socialist in charge will eliminate the Constitution. Socialism and the Constitution can not co-exist.

        Fight the MEDIA at: http://www.madashellboycott.com
        Fight the Schools by homeschooling your children.
        Fight the Republicans and Democrats by demanding that the PEOPLE count the votes. Between the MEDIA and Corruption in both parties We the People no longer count the votes.

        “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The
        people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide
        everything.”
        Joseph Stalin

        • YOU HAD A HUNCH THE
          NEWS SYSTEM WAS RIGGED AND YOU COULDN’T PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THIS MIGHT SOLVE
          THE PUZZLE.

          ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to
          Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

          CBS President
          David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security
          Adviser for Strategic Communications.

          ABC News
          correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary
          Jay Carney

          ABC News and
          Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy
          Press Secretary

          ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s
          Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

          CNN President
          Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom
          Nides.

          And now you
          know why it is no surprise the media is in Obama’s pocket.

          Ya think there
          might be a little bias in the news ???

          It also
          explains the cover up of Benghazi………

        • One of V Lenin’s sayings is “A lie repeated enough will eventually become the truth”. The commies have been trying to take over the US of A for almost a century. Back in the 1940s, Joe McCarthy and the FBI had a list of some 300+ card carrying commies with in our fed bureaucracy. FDR, Truman and even IKE refused to acknowledge the list. Evidently old J Stalin had them in his pocket. Most commies either resigned, were fired or reassigned. When JFK, a staunch anti communist, came to power, the commies had him and several of his cabinet murdered. The socialist actually became active in the late 1880s due to Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto and the European socialist. Old Teddy R. was a professed Progressive and W Wilson, a professed modern liberal, created the federal reserve. FDR created the early welfare system of federal work forces (mostly good ones). When LBJ took over the modern day previous welfare systems were put on steroids.

      • He is a minority.

      • My one good reason: GOP reps are in bed with the Leftist criminals!

      • Yes, Muslims and other antichrist fools were fooled into voting for him as they returned again and again to vote. King Muslin would not allow votes to be recounted, when there were more people voting than were registered. I wonder, did they vote again according to how much they were paid. How much did one extra vote cost him???

      • What did the Bushes repair during their tenure? It’s time to stop this republican/democrat dichotomy talk and admit both are toxic to freedoms in America.
        .

        • Okay, you brought up a good point and it is most worthy of comment. I completely agree with your unspoken indictment. Bush was without a doubt the total epitome of a “Trojan Horse”. I celebrated him because he knocked out Gore who was nothing more than a pirate and had plans to fleece the American people out of billions, if not trillions. Bush also acted on the Chinese effort to destroy the US economy, but he lost me when he was instrumental in allowing the taking down of the towers. Oh, yes. Do your research. The Bushes took down the towers and pulled the Patriot Act out of their back pocket to start our nation down the road to communism. I did the research and found that the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas are all blood related and are all communist.

          I don’t consider Bush to be a Republican even though he ran under that pretense. Bush is a communist and so is his brother Jibberish.

          I hope and pray that we are all smart enough to reject both Clinton and Bush. Both are poison, but keep in mind, Obama will be worse than either if he is allowed to hold the office permanently, as I believe he plans to do.

      • Too many people enjoying freebies that are too lazy to work for what they get.

      • The one good reason is: both parties are in the same leftist bed, and supporting all the corruption and crime in federal (and many state) governments. With few exceptions, they all adhere to the One World under the UN agenda. A clean sweep next Nov. will be needed to stop the US from descending into the 3rd World of tyranny and misery! Vote Trump-Cruz or Carson in 2016!

    • Hear hear, LadyGreenEyes!

    • Drop?? Hows about damn near eliminating it?? Liberals are a crime against society!

    • If you give liberals the control of guns, Hitler will happen all over again…

    • a lady that sees—eeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • Well, we don’t want to ban them completely. We have to save some as bad examples. Trot them out on TV and ask a question, then do the opposite, and point out how it actually works as opposed to the liberal delusion.

    • I go along with that, Liberals are nothing but a bunch of lying ASS-HOLES.

    • Deporting 10 million illegals would go a long ways toward solving the nation’s problems regarding crime, welfare, the economy, and unemployment.

    • I would vote to send them along with the UN and their minions back to the EU or former USSR where they belong with a one way ticket. The environment in the US of A would immediately improve and we could do away with the EPA, IRS, NLRB and dozens of other alphabet agencies that are worthless. The cities would be cleaner. The radical liberal, progressive, commie noise would go away. America would be the pre 1960s America, again and we would be better prepared for our future knowing what to expect.

      • Works for me! Add in charging the UN for back due rent, and it’s perfect!

        • Also, no more diplomatic immunity. No more Mister American Nice Guy. If some one doesn’t like it … go home and stay there.

          • The only issue there is that they would say the same, and thus place our own diplomats at potential risk.

    • If we banned Liberalism, that alone would fix the world once we got the liberalism out of the peoples heads.

      Ban liberalism, atheism and homosexuality and you are on the road to a decent world again.

    • Dominic Roy Accampo

      Yes we could!

  5. Here we go again. The murder rate has gone done during the Obama president administration. The same happened during the Clinton administration in the 90’s. The reason for this is that the American people are so much better off during those times. The right to conceal your gun had nothing to do with it. Gun activists want everyone to believe it is. Common sense tells you that a murderer never stops to think if that person they are killing has a gun on them or not. Read some of the following comments. If I felt I had to carry a gun when I left my house like they do I would move. That is no way to live. If you want a safe place to live where you don’t have to carry a gun for your protection ask me.

    • Because our elite leaders want you dead by black mob violence…..VA is also assisting with the DEATH BY DELAY POLICY……cut back on the POT wayne baby , wake up a view the elite corruption…..and where is the proof that murder rates have dropped any where in the USA? DUH !

      • JARHEAD. Your name fits. Go to google and put in murder rates for the U.S. The U.S is on track to make this the lowest murder rate for the century.. That would be an unbiast opinion.

        • Thank to legal weapon owners!

          • First you don’t believe the murder rates have dropped then you say the murder rates have dropped because of legal weapon owners. Jarhead you proved my point. Your name fits.

    • Hmm ! Where do you live. UNDER a rock , in a cave , in Death Valley . A long way away from society. OR – I no you are very rich so you have bodyguards, who have their own weapons to protect you. Have a nice day.

    • The murder rate has gone down because gun ownership has gone up. Did you know that 60% of gun deaths are suicides? Did you also know that 60% of the remaining deaths are inner-city black gang members killing each other with illegal guns. The rest are justified killings by the police and armed citizens. People like you call 911, they have a prompt body bag delivery service, fake cowboy.

  6. Obviously these people have never been to Newark NJ,Chicago Ill, New York City, Baltimore Maryland, Washington DC,etc.Any place you find extreme gun control you find a proliferation of crime gangs and drugs.
    Gun free zones are the greatest mass murder locations in this Country. If you follow these thing ALL OF OUR MASS MURDERS WERE COMMITTED BY PSYCHOPATH’S IN GUN FREE ZONES(THINK ABOUT IT) WHY because the people are unable to defend themselves.These people from the violence policy center live in gated communities, patrolled by armed security guards,they have body guards and carry firearms themselves. JUST LOOK AT MIKE BLOOMBERG??? need I say more.
    Just a few simple facts I know I sound like a broken record(WHEN YOU HAVE ONLY SECONDS TO LIVE THE COPS ARE ONLY MINUTES AWAY actually you are dead when they arrive) FACT. The Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no duty to protect you.A gun in hand is worth ten cops on the phone. TRUE FACT The second amendment is not about hunting it is about your right to keep and bear arms, to protect yourself your family and your property.To prevent the violent overthrow of our Constitutional Government.etc.The NRA is about two things YOUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS AND FIRE ARMS SAFETY.

  7. The VPC operates out of a broom closet in a Boston strip mall. It has ZERO credibility except for the cargo cult of media doyennes who worship “GUNNNN CONNNTROL” as it were the Holy Buffalo Knuckle.

  8. Tell the lie enough, some people will think it is true. The Violence Policy Center would not know what the truth was if it slapped them in the a$$.

  9. Concealed carry killers are a threat to public safety. This is a big pile of BS. The Obama ran news-media like that of Germany during Hitler rein the same pile of crap and millions then die. So how many in the US will also be murdered by this foul government under the muslim and socialistic fools of DC?

    American is over ran now with drug gangs with weapons and terrorist with weapon and criminal on the street all thanks to this pig in the oval office doing absolutely nothing but spending money for vacations for him and his idiotic muslim family.

    There are over 36 muslim terrorist training camps inside the US with full automatic weapon and explosive teaching children and women how to kill Americans and cut off their heads. And the federal Government is doing NOTHING about it nor are they putting a stop to it. What does this tell you all about Obama? He is not America nor does he care about Americans, wants all Americans disarmed so his muslim brothers can attack without the fear of being shot by an American. USMC

  10. Liberals will never stop blaming everything on everyone but themselves.

  11. All I can say is since the Shooting in TN, there have been numerous areas where ARMED CITIZENS are standing GUARD over the Brave Men and Woman in the Military who are forced
    to put themselves out as TARGETS for Islamic Jihadist NUT cases. I have not heard of a single case where anyone of these ARMED CITIZENS have gunned down and innocent
    citizen walking down the street.

    • Just the other day I told my wife that I’d better check my handgun as it hasn’t killed anyone yet!! It’s under lock and key, yes I know it doesn’t do much good locked up, but I do have a child in the house that knows NOT to touch it. Yet I’d rather err on the side of caution.

  12. Recognize the tactics? Bit by bit. ‘They came for them – then they came for them – and then they came for them and then ———————– ‘! Zo late ve git zo schmardt? NOT.

  13. Gun grabbers and liberals will not look at the facts they will go with the fabricated lie every time

  14. syntex1@comcast.net

    Yes, i understand, get rid of all the guns and make it much easier for Countries Like Iran and Isis to take control of our Country.

  15. I wonder what the numbers would look like if the black on black homicdes were taken out of the totals?
    Seven

    • Noted that blacks are 13% of populace but more than 38% killing other blacks.

    • I recently read a report on that somewhere and the number was (if my memory serves me correctly .04. I also think there are over a dozen very violent cities (above 38 percent). Mostly democrat controlled and a majority black with strict gun control. More proof the gun control approach does not work.

      In any case the USA was, in the 2012 report, number one in gun ownership and number 111 in murder rate. Every nation above it (110 of then banned guns) are strictly gun controlled dictatorships or socialistic nations.

      My state of Arizona has always had an open carry law. Open carry does not curtail crime at least to any measurable extent. On the other hand concealed carry does if IT is not restricted. Everyone being allowed to legally carry a concealed firearm puts a degree of unknown who does and who does not carry. That is something the crooks do not appreciate. That curtails crime, all crimes.

      Finally an armed society is a polite society! Always has been always will be!

  16. We need to realize that Islam and liberalism are “religions” to their members.

    • I think a lot of people are aware that to Muslims, islam is a “religion”. However, we are a country of religious freedoms, one facet of islam that is incompatible. We do not have a state approved religion and that is the goal of islam. Why, when Christian symbols are outlawed should we allow Islam beliefs seep into our society?

      • You are correct however, actually Islam is not a religion it is not even a cult, what it is is an ideology and dictatorial system of government disguised as a religion in order to gain acceptance among the population and government(s) recognition along with privilege it would not otherwise be able to garner. It also uses the religion as leverage to keep members in because of the fact they can be killed if they leave the so called religion. Here in the United States the muslims are using our freedom of religion laws (first amendment) against us in order to install their controlling ideology they call a religion.

        Islam preaches killing of non believers and rewarding the murderers with virgins. Should they give their lives during their acts of violence. It motivates with fear and permeates death not love as religions do. There is no good within Islam.

        Islam’s profit makes hitler, stalin and mao look like choir boys. Islam is totally evil. Therefore, mohammad is the profit of evil.

        During WWII we found it necessary to fight everyone within the nations attacking us because they, the citizens, supported those fighting. Just as we, the civilians of the USA, supported our military.

        If those members within Islam (so called moderate muslims) do not fight against the radical Islamic terrorists can we not assume they support radical Islam? We do know they use the mosques to gather monetary support for the terrorists and they are also used as recruiting places and planning. And spread propaganda there.

        Members of the Islamic faith claim it to be a religion of peace and yet they do nothing to curtail the blood thirsty murderers within the so called religion. The terrorists who function under the name of Islam Anyone not against them then they are against those who “are” against them. There is no neutrality possible here. Its one way or the other. If they are not for doing away with the violence then they support the violence being perpetrated upon the world everywhere. Consequently, eliminating violence may include them as well. If the Qur’an preaches killing non believers and it does how can it truthfully be called a religion of peace by anyone? Including obama?

    • the whole idea of islam is like the democrats–control–theirs is just more openly forced control

  17. Why is it, with all of this information available, that liberal Democrats remain so fiercely anti-gun?

    • Because they will not accept facts as facts. Liars have a tendency to believe everyone lies just like they do. In 2012 the murder rate here in America was 4.6 percent per one hundred thousand. It is now, according to this down to 4.2. Furthermore, with all the violent cities like Detroit and dozens of other cities including Chicago and LA with their high crime rates fly over America is less then one percent. Around .04 or less. That is where the real crime goes on. In the democrat run black slums and poor white areas in about 20 major cities. Crime in those cities has either stayed the same or increased. One other factor not mentioned here is many of the high crime areas have the most restrictive gun laws. More proof the democrat inspired gun control fails at every juncture. However, that will never change a progressives approach to gun restrictions. They also ignore the fact governments kill more citizens then all the criminals in the world but no one seems to want to bring that “fact” up. Any government that desires to take the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens is not a government of and for the people. Nothing good can ever come from such actions.

      In the final analysis however, no one can or ever will protect anyone better then they can protect themselves. Taking the guns away from the law abiding citizen perpetrates and increases crime it never decreases it. The high gun restricted areas here in the USA prove that 100%.

      • What the Sandy Hook and Aurora have in common are they were both in no-gun/no-drug zones. There was several schools closer to Lanza, yet preyed on Sandy Hook Elementary…understood also because he was familiar with the school through his mother; Holmes also IMHO, intentionally passed nearer cinemas closer to his home possibly because they did not forbid guns, and he could have been shot.

      • I also love it when people turn in their guns for a bit of money and then most turn around and buy more updated and better weapons. However, Demos/liberals/progs are stupider than heck! They think every thought they have is a good thing but never get to the end of the thought to what happens at the end which is usually BAD!

    • Please read the above bloggers remarks to know the score!

  18. I have read.this study and you are lying and have it _ as backwards , getting guns out of the hands of nut cases has shown to stop crime.true background checks on all gun sales have shown to drop crime by 98% , the heritage group and the rand group both show the biggest danger to America is the ring wing group’s who believe in the bible and white supremacy which that is all the ring wi g group’s !!! They have killed twice as many Americans then all the terrorists put together !!! We’re you Neo Nazi are the threat to America !!!

    • Every legal gun purchased in the US right now has to go through a background check. Anyone who thinks known criminals will submit to background checks is smoking wacky weed. They will not. There are some seven to ten thousand restrictive gun laws on the books right now. If they do not work why is it you think more will? Restricting guns only actually restricts those who obey laws criminals do not obey laws. In other words a lesson I learned many years ago laws are only for law abiding citizens. Criminals ignore them.

  19. Banned the democrats , communists, socialist, liberals, and plain old bloodsucking conniving fascist bastards politicians of the left including rinos. F.U.

  20. Like a stuck record, I repeat, when are we going to face the real issue that we have a people problem, not a weapons problem?

  21. TeaParty Patriot

    maybe the left will be forced to acknowledge that there’s something wrong with their philosophy on politics, society, and the individual. And then maybe we can stop blaming boogeymen for America’s problems. “

    .
    It ain’t gonna happen . . . . Colleges and universities have been teaching the liberal lie for a century or more and they are no where near going to admit that their entire careers are based on lies and false theories. Look what happened when the USSR folded. The elite in academia insisted that the reason for the collapse was that the “trial” of socialism in the USSR failed because the effort did not encompass all living beings not that the theory was wrong. Then they blamed it on the corruption of the ruling few. then they made up some straw man to blame. and just like the 0webomb refuse to take any responsibility for the flaws in their theory.

  22. Our Founding Fathers when approving the 2nd Amendment were concerned about tyranny over a defenseless people. That is why the lefty lies become so obvious…..as to their true intent.

    • again all the laws in the world do not act to stop anything–its the people who made these laws that must see they are full filled—an there lies our problem–we refuse to do anything

  23. “The next major gun study should attempt to prove a correlation between Democratic leadership and violent crime. If that can be proven (and it almost certainly can), maybe the left will be forced to acknowledge that there’s something wrong with their philosophy on politics, society, and the individual.”
    That will never happen. It’s been shown and proven over and over and the Left ignores, denies, name calls and makes up more lies to blur or disguise the facts. They hate the truth and facts that don’t promote them getting more control and power.

    • It is already known but the sheeple who are afraid of their own shadows buy into it. Stupid is as stupid does and we now have decades of teaching in schools about how horrible America and Americans are. Need to clean out ALL liberals/progs from schools and dismantled the teacher unions, and stop taking fed money for the schools. The system is no longer “public” but owned and operated by the feds, who, by the way, are Our employees and we need to fire them posthaste!

  24. Stuart Cockerham

    Criminals don’t obey most laws, armed criminals look for easy prey. The more legal guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens make it more difficult for violent criminals to perpetrate their crimes. I know after having stopped a dozen armed robbery attempts with self-defense methods.

    • Most mass killings occur at gun free zones, such as schools, theaters, churches, etc. It seems that we need to ban gun free zones instead of banning guns.

  25. Most 2nd amendment supporters have known these statistics for years, It’s NOT news to anyone but the sheeple.
    Most of your conservative audience belong to one or more gun rights organizations, maybe your organization should also, if you’re just now finding this out.

  26. There’s without a doubt and fully supported by statistics that Democrat gun denying run cities are the worst for crime. To put guns unrestrictedly into the hands of every American citizen on the streets defies criminal intent. They’re cowards if they even suspect you may match them gun for gun. Results in prove definitely LESS CRIME!
    Not only are the criminals cowards, so are the Progressive Liberals (to include Progressive Republicans and Independents).

  27. Oh yeah…Empty Suit had a photo-op with “poor, misunderstood, unfairly convicted and unjustly incarcerated serving insensitive, extensive sentences for non-violent crimes” of dealing drugs. What a crock! There’s no such thing as non-violent drug dealer. They push their filth indiscriminately…often giving free samples to adolescents, as what Freddie Gray, a known drug dealer, working a known drug point was doing in Baltimore. Once hooked, the now addicted, has to pay for a each fix…meaning he or she has to car-jack, mug, rob, burglar, boost (shop lift), black-market guns or commit other crimes, including murder to support their habit.

  28. I’d like to see the top Marine General order all Marines armed from the moment the murders of the 4 Marines last week. Then if Obama countered his order see him publicly resign and announce his running for President…a warrior running against all the spineless politicians like this would win in a landslide. We need real leadership ASAP. Something as this would give real hope to the majority of patriotic Americans and scare the hell out of career politicians and the media. He would not be stopped. Where is our warrior future President. I say start with a
    U S Marine…

  29. THOSE WHO WANT TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY INTEND TO KILL YOU. JUST ASK THE SENIOR CITIZENS

    WHO SHOULD START OBAMA’S IMPEACHMENT.SOAP sent you a message.

    Listen to my new episode MCAIN-TRUMP AND THE RINO DEMO COMMO STING at http://tobtr.com/s/7785849. #BlogTalkRadioReply to SOAP

  30. Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    They are a lying bunch of idiots and they must lie to us cause they want our guns .

  31. There is no valid reason for the Obamomonkey to continue to occupy the WH! Military shootings have gone up, The US is no longer world power it was, islamic trash runs amok in our country killing and trying to bomb or kill citizens, our military has been degraded and weakened beyond belief, and our enemies are threatening us at our own doorsteps now. IS THERE A REASON WHY THE OBAMAMONKEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY? TRAITORS ARE SHOT OR HANGED!

  32. I have not heard of a case of someone using their concealed handgun to intentionally murder anyone. Crime has not gone down because of the lying, gay golfer, Muslim half breed. Lock and load and keep the bad guys in check.

  33. When are you people going to get this straight; gun control is not about guns… it’s about control, people control! The socialist running this country do not care about statistics, they care about control! Another thing, the controllers
    are not “liberals” they are Marxist/Socialist !!!!!!!

  34. Facts and truth are never part of the ‘progressive’ agenda, therefore such a study as this will never be promoted by the ‘media’. If mentioned at all it’ll likely to be poo-pooing the study. The battle for the 2nd Amendment will never end either. The ‘control everything’ (except the border) libs will not relent despite what is known to be true. We all know these things to be true so we must remain vigilant and do all we can to inform The People that their rights trump the ‘feelings’ of the lib agenda. Our government is releasing known criminal illegal aliens onto our streets while at the same time plotting and planning ways to ultimately disarm The American People. They understand they must do this incrementally because We The People would never permit it to be done by ‘Executive order’ or a Bill from congress. The only way to stop this continuous chipping away at all our Rights is to stop electing Democrats to office.

  35. WHY, WHY, WHY THOSE ALL THE JEWS IN AMERICAN WANT TO DISARM US , BLOOMBERG ETC ETC ETC ,WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF ?????? JOIN THE N R A BUY A GUN , PROUD US ARMY VET. I DECEND FROM THE FIRST CHRISTIAN’S IN THE WORLD MY FAMILY WAS IN PALESTINE WHEN JESUS CAME,JESUS TOLD THE JEWS ((( YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL YOUR FATHER ))) I BELIVE JESUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. While most of what the author says is true I think that the real reason many democraps want more guns laws is because they can’t be in total control of an armed populace.

  37. More guns =less crime ~! Kinda of a no brainer ! DUH Stupid democrats !

  38. The political left is rabid now because they and their policies are out of the closet because they have angels in this Administration to protect them. They MUST win this battle and negate the political right…….if they DON’T, they have to go back into their closets where they were before G.W. Bush forced their coming out publicly when he did not allow Gore’s theft of the Presidency in Florida. They KNEW they could force republicans to do whatever they demanded, and Bush proved them wrong……..and that is what they hate the most about the right wing. His dad may be a liberal. I don’t think G.W. is.

  39. The left are just liars plain & simple.

  40. Dems will never admit that they were wrong about anything. If anything, a factual, statistical analysis would only make them double down and/or make up a new excuse.

  41. Democrats are dumber than concrete except with an animal cunning when it comes to lies, deceit and manipulation of information to present THEIR agendas in the best possible light and most of the time against, the best interests of constitutionally guaranteed freedoms and the rights of American citizens. It is NOT the independents, Libertarians, Tea Partiers, veteran’s groups or Republicans; especially CONSERVATIVE republicans who are attacking every aspect of the Bill of Rights: it is the New World Order cabal of Obama and the U.N. and it violates our sovereignty and attempts to gain powers of taxation and control of AMERICAN resources under the CONTROL of the U.N. as part of Agenda 21. Research THAT heinous piece of garbage and you will NEVER vote democrat again as long as you live; IF you have half a brain. THESE DAYS, IN THIS COUNTRY, AND IF YOU ARE YOUNGER THAN 50: THAT IS A MATTER OF GRAVE CONCERN!

  42. patriot news please stop calling the democrat party democratic. they are not!!! they are the DEMOCRAT PARTY

  43. May I Add an Apparent Observation-!? Most Rapists have a ‘Deadly Fear’ of trying to Rape a Woman with
    a “Gun in Her Hand”-! As a Final-Shot, “Many Men Were Not as Good as Annie Oakley “Was With a Gun”-!
    But to “Keep It Even”, I Won’t Deny Women to have a Gun–As Long As “I Legally have permission to keep
    Mine”-!

  44. Concealed carry killers are a threat to public safety. The evidence is clear that all too often, private citizens use their concealed handguns to take lives, not to save them. – The Violence Policy Center
    Have you heard anything more ludicrous in your life? When the cause is absurd and the facts are against you, lie.

  45. True MAHB001,but it also shows how much they believe in the lies!

  46. The left doesn’t lets facts get in the way of common sense when it comes to guns and their owners.

  47. syntex1@comcast.net

    Seeing how you put it i have to totally agree with you

  48. With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects. That’s what obama and the other fools want, us to be defenseless. I don’t care to be a subject and those who don’t want to should never be defenseless.

  49. Criminals and killers love a defenseless population.

  50. You can’t reason with un reasonable people. / You can’t fix stupid.

  51. Libtards are notorious for ignoring FACTS!!!!!

  52. If All those ANTI-GUN LIBTURD COMMIEcrats would Ever believe the Truth . Instead of the BULLSHIT being fed to them By the LIB/DEM LEFTY COMMIES , Theyd have a Heart Attack . Sooner or later . They Will wake up . The Hard way . When a ARMED AMERICAN , Saves one of them from a Life or Death situation . But Not until .

  53. “So why is it, with all of this information available, that liberal Democrats remain so fiercely anti-gun?”

    Answer is . . . like their “Fellow Marxist Travellers” Mao, Stalin and Lenin . . . totalitarian despots don’t want freedom to break out in their Controlled Communities.

  54. Don’t expect the Left to quit their anti-gun agenda, truth or not. Their real agenda is to disarm the nation, reelect Big Brother, and turn the US into a 3rd World one-party hellhole of corruption, crime, poverty, debt, disease, and general hopelessness under a one-party system and probable dictatorship. Of course, the progressive elites have covered their butts with money and connections in the evil hierarchy! Middle and lower classes will get to experience the same misery those in Communist nations have.
    Vote GOP in 2016 to kick Satan’s minions out of US federal and state governments!

  55. liberturds hate the truth

  56. There needs to be some way to make the media actually state whether or not the gun used was legally purchased by the perpetrator of a crime.

  57. Let Isis come and we will see a change in there beliefs .

  58. This study sounds like something done by a third grader. Anyone with the sense to study police blotters in metro areas could easily confirm what is suggested. If we used TV media news in the research, we could easily learn a lot more about the use of guns in crimes. Since Obama came to office, the TV stations in Atlanta have news broadcasts that are more like the reading of the city’s police blotters. Half or more of each newscast is covering shootings, murders, and guns used in gang activities. It raises a question: Are gun crimes truthfully increasing?
    I believe “yes.” Next, are stations pushing Obama’s gun control agenda? The answer is definitely “YES!” Welcome to our new African style dictatorship! Best not to buy a carry permit. They’ll come for your guns! Then only the criminals and Obama’s thugs will be armed. Who will be there to protect your loved ones?

  59. It is a foolish question by any stretch of the imagination. Lets believe that the Armed Forces walked down the main streets of Afghanistan unarmed and only the crooks (Enemy) had guns and wanted what the persons in the armed Forces had in their wallets. Are we to believe they could talk their way out of robbery or worse, murder for their goods? Why the hell do the ash holes {Politicians) that want our guns think that it is any different here in the United States, as crime continues to rise and the laws are ignored because the politicians don’t believe in one protecting themselves? I believe that they want our guns so they can rule without confrontation and that makes us all slaves to the Government. Ask the next Black person you run into how they would like to once again be slaves to the United States Government

  60. Alleged Comment

    THE left wants a compliant population.

    What could you do if the sheep had claws and fangs? What WOULD YOU DO???

    You would remove them. So you can walk among them and slaughter any sheep you want!

  61. There is one thing we can all trust is that both political parties and the mainstream media are all owned and controlled by the same group of thugs, the Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Rothschild’s and Soros, just to mention a few.
    We can’t vote them out, we need to Arrest the entire government, try them for treason and execute them, abolish the National Debt, the Fed Reserve banker thugs are all imposters as is the IRS and the CIA. the fact that you can’t loan credit makes the Nat Debt null and void. Then we should go back to the Republic form of government

    we had and Hire the government employees and hold them to a high accountability.

  62. Like all of Europe, except for the Fascist and Nazi thugs, and Asia, except for Japan, the USSR, China and N Korea, and their murdering thugs, it took a multi nation of armies to defeat these murdering thugs. It was a fine example of weapon confiscation from the citizens by those that feared them. Another example of why it is so important for America to honor the Constitution and its bill of rights against tyranny from within. There will always …. always be someone with an illegal hand weapon of some sort, guns, knives, hammers, hand tools, even human hands and feet. So, are we going to ban all of these?!?! The thought is stupid. But, hey, some politicians are just that …. stupid. Groucho Marx once stated something to the effect: “politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, misdiagnosing it and applying the wrong remedies”. I would like to add to that: “and when the $hit hits the fan, they claim they had nothing to do with it and when unconvinced voters arrive, they resign and fade away into the wind with their ill gotten bounty all the way to Hawaii”. HEY!!! AMERICA, ITS TIME TO TAKE OUT THE RADICAL LIBERAL, PROGRESSIVE, COMMIE, RINO TRASH AND BRING BACK THE REAL AMERICA. GOD BLESS AMERICA, THE MOST EXCEPTIONAL NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, AND DON’T ANYONE FORGET IT.

  63. The highest murder rates are in the cities with gun control. Detroit 54.6/100,000, New Orleans 53.2/100,000, St. Louis 35.5/100,000, Baltimore 34.9/100,000. I could go on but you get the picture. 4.2% is the average for the US. What does that tell us about gun control.? Crime increases in proportion to the level of control. It’s the exact opposite of what the administration and media are trying to sell.

  64. Why would an article about Second Amendment freedoms start with a direct quote from the enemy? In this day, some people read only the first part of an article and move on.

    The first part of an advocacy piece should be a hard-hitting appeal to the main theme of the article, not a hand-shake with the opposition.
    .

  65. Look, No matter what it is, if Democrats are in charge of it it is more then likely in shambles. Its mind blowing to see how bad Obama has done as President and to still have ANYONE at all take his side, much less as many as do. Those people alone tell me that democrats are ALL nuts and mut be indoctrinated, on drugs or something b/c there is no way that so many could be that ignorant…. No WAY.

  66. How about we ban baseball bats, butcher knives, brass knuckles, bandana chocking devises , and bombs made in homes. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Don’t try to lay a guilt trip on me for owning weapons, having a concealed carry permit and a sign on my property that says “No warning shots fired – ammo is too expensive to waste.” By the way, your skin color has nothing to do with defending myself and others.

    • Why let what someone else thinks bother you.
      Simply do what you do & let those who don’t, not.
      Anyone not comfy with firearms … well, We, the general population, are probably better off that they don’t have them. 😉
      I don’t let it bother me & I just do what I do. 😉
      Simple as that,

  67. Dominic Roy Accampo

    Every time a study shows how wrong liberals are they just produce another study done by more liberal minded people, that is more determined to press liberal fantasy over reality than ever before; DRA

  68. WHAT THIS INFO SAYS IS GET A GUN AND A CONCEALED PERMIT. HELP STOP CRIME. SOUND LIKE A GREAT IDEA TO ME.

  69. MrsTJNic@aol.com

    Good idea! Banning liberals, before they finish destroying this country. I can hardly wait til Trump is president.

  70. When guns are outlawed, I will be an outlaw, along with 80 million other legally armed Americans!

  71. Liberals will concede the truth re concealed carry the day after pigs fly! Liberalism is a mental deficiency based on self-delusion and unrealistic Utopian ideas.

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