New Report: Democrats Can’t Raise Enough Money to Compete With Trump

According to Politico, Democrats may be winning the rhetorical war against Donald Trump and the Republicans on the mainstream media airwaves, but it isn’t going to help them recapture the White House in 2020. If they want to do that, they’ll have to generate some excitement among the donors…and that’s simply not happening.

In pleas that are a far cry from the small-dollar donations that fueled the campaigns of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, the Democratic National Committee is so short on financing that it is asking members to donate or raise more than $1,000 each in advance of the 2020 election cycle. Politico reports that the State Party Innovation Fund, a grant program the DNC developed to help out in local elections, is experiencing a million-dollar shortfall. Without a serious infusion of cash, it will not be able to cover the costs of its own salaries, much less help state and local Democrats get elected.

Many inside the party feel that Democrats have yet to turn the corner after Hillary Clinton’s disastrous campaign for president. “Donors small and large are so over the party,” Nebraska Democratic Chair Jane Kleeb told Politico. “Everybody thinks that some magic three-page document and some magic tagline is going to turn everything around for us.”

A lot can change in three years, of course, but that hasn’t stopped pollsters from canvassing voters to see who they might like to see challenge Donald Trump in the next election. A New Hampshire poll showed that Bernie Sanders is in the lead, with Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker rounding out the top four.

It’s hard to imagine any of these candidates defeating Trump, especially if the Democrats are as unenthusiastic as these financial numbers seem to indicate. Hell, Sanders, the frontrunner, has gone out of his way to declare himself independent of the party! What does THAT say about your party, when the most popular figure on the left won’t even call himself a Democrat? Nothing good, that’s for certain.

But the problem isn’t that the Democrats need a message – it’s that the American voters already KNOW what their message is. They’ve heard it loud and clear. They’ve heard it from the “centrists” like Hillary and from the “radicals” like Sanders and Warren. And guess what? When you dig just a little bit beneath the surface, you find that these two factions aren’t as far apart as they’d like voters to believe. It’s all socialism, to one degree or another. It’s all built on a disdain for America as it was and as it is. Surprise, surprise, that’s just not very inspiring to most Americans.

Four more years? Sure, we’ll take it.

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  1. Maybe they can get some help from The Clinton Foundation. Word has it that it is awash in enormous untraceable donations.

  2. Maybe they can get some help from The Clinton Foundation. Word has it that it is awash in enormous untraceable donations.
    The Clinton Foundation is “organized crime” at its finest, and we are financing it.
    Here
    is a good, concise summary of how the Clinton Foundation works as a tax
    free international money laundering scheme. It may eventually prove to
    be the largest political criminal enterprise in U.S. history.
    This
    is a textbook case on how you hide foreign money sent to you and
    repackage it to be used for your own purposes. All tax free. Here’s how
    it works:
    1. You create a separate foreign “charity.” In this case one in Canada.
    2.
    Foreign oligarchs and governments, then donate to this Canadian
    charity. In this case, over 1,000 did — contributing mega millions. I’m
    sure they did this out of the goodness of their hearts, and expected
    nothing in return. (Imagine Putin’s buddies waking up one morning and
    just deciding to send untold millions to a Canadian charity).
    3. The Canadian charity then bundles these separate donations and makes a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation.
    4.
    The Clinton Foundation and the cooperating Canadian charity claim
    Canadian law prohibits the identification of individual donors.
    5.
    The Clinton Foundation then “spends” some of this money for legitimate
    good works programs. Unfortunately, experts believe this is on the order
    of 10%. Much of the balance goes to enrich the Clinton’s, pay salaries
    to untold numbers of hangers on, and fund lavish travel, etc. Again,
    virtually all tax free, which means you and I are subsidizing it.
    6.
    The Clinton Foundation, with access to the world’s best accountants,
    somehow fails to report much of this on their tax filings. They discover
    these “clerical errors” and begin the process of re-filing 5 years of
    tax returns.
    7. Net result — foreign money, much of it from other
    countries, goes into the Clinton’s pockets tax free and untraceable
    back to the original donor. This is the textbook definition of money
    laundering.
    Oh, by the way, the Canadian “charity” includes as a
    principal one Frank Giustra. Google him. He is the guy who was central
    to the formation of Uranium One, the Canadian company that somehow
    acquired massive U.S. uranium interests and then sold them to an
    organization controlled by Russia. This transaction required U.S. State
    Department approval, and guess who was Secretary of State when the
    approval was granted. As an aside, imagine how former Virginia Governor
    Bob McDonnell feels. That poor schlep is in jail because he and his wife
    took $165,000 in gifts and loans for doing minor favors for a guy
    promoting a vitamin company. Not legal but not exactly putting U.S.
    security t risk.
    Sarcasm aside, if you’re still not persuaded this
    was a cleverly structured way to get unidentified foreign money to the
    Clinton’s, ask yourself this: Why did these foreign interests funnel
    money through a Canadian charity? Why not donate directly to the Clinton
    Foundation? Better yet, why not donate money directly to the people,
    organizations and countries in need?
    This is the essence of money laundering and influence peddling.
    Now you know why Hillary’s destruction of 30,000 e-mails was a risk she was willing to take.
    Bill and Hillary are devious, unprincipled, dishonest and criminal, and they are slick! Top of the heap democrats!

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  3. hmmm, maybe they are running out of other peoples money?

    “The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money”
    — Margaret Thatcher

      • The trouble with capitalism is that eventually you run out of the planets resources.

        • “We are Socialists” ~ Adolph Hitler, May 1, 1927
          Cited in “Adolf Hitler” ~ John Toland., 1976, p. 224
          http://www.amazon.com/Adolf-Hitler-Definitive-John-Toland/dp/0385420536/

          • Hitler was a liar

          • James:
            How about Marx?
            “Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality…The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course…” ~ The Communist Manifesto, Marx/Engels (1848)

          • Why do you keep sharing that quote? The point? Your education level?

          • Because they are appropriate and expose the true intent of James arguments. James is arguing in favor of socialism and:

            “The goal of socialism is communism.”
            —–Lenin

          • The relevance, cretin?

          • Not gonna play your silly troll games.

            You have chosen not to get it…

          • You are an uneducated buffoon who spews drivel. You cannot explain the relevance because there is none. I have not trolled. You have. Ironic much, little brain?

          • Is that all you got? You might as well pull that trigger fool.

          • It is the truth.

          • Nope it is just your opinion.

          • Okay. Then explain it and share your education level and IQ. I know you wont. You know wont. I know you are a loser. You know you are a loser. So, why post?

          • another deflection? With more insults… Boy are you original….

          • No. That was not even close to a deflection.

          • Now you are just being a contrarian. Is that your intellectual level of conversation?

          • Stop, trash. You seem brain damaged.

          • I have not deflcted once. I have answered every question.

          • I apologize. I misunderstood. I thought you were against Marxism but here you present a quote that happens to be right. There are no eternal truths, religion is a lie and morality is totally subjective. Thanks for clarifying. I was told Marxism was wrong.

          • James: Perhaps this will help clarify things for you:
            “To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.” ~ Joseph Goebbels
            http://www.azquotes.com/author/5626-Joseph_Goebbels

          • That didn’t clarify it for me. To live in peace and do the right things for our descendants we need to think of others and not so much of ourselves. We’re only here for such a short time. BTW, let’s not use quotes from Nazis to advance our arguments they were not socialists. They were fascists. Those concepts are light years apart. Real socialism is equality for all people. Nazis believe they are the superior race.

          • Karl Marx was Jewish by birth, but he absolutely hated Jews. he coined the term “Holocaust”. Hitler read Marx in detail, and he adopted the Holocaust idea from Marx:
            ~~~~~~~~~~~
            “As socialists, we are opponents of the Jews, because we see in the Hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation’s goods.” ~ Joseph Goebbels
            http://www.azquotes.com/author/5626-Joseph_Goebbels

          • That’s like using the words of Satan to make a point for good. He abused the word “socialist” the way many political words are abused today. Ask yourself, what is the opposite of socialist? Is it: antisocial? What is socialism? We rail against the elite taking control of our God-given resources but despise the concept of socialism which holds that our country’s land and natural resources are here for all of us. Socialism is sharing fairly what the great Earth has provided. It opposes gluttony and elite-ism. Society is Socialism.

          • Oh James, do try to keep up….

            There are no eternal truths???? Come on…
            Religion is a lie?
            Morality is totally subjective?

            You jest…

          • Mah:
            Oh, James means it alright. Authoritarian socialists reject the democratic free-enterprise republic:
            ~~~~~~~~
            “…the Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things. …Communists.. openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.” ~ The Communist Manifesto, Marx/Engels (1848)
            http://www.amazon.com/Communist-Manifesto-Karl-Marx/dp/0717802418

          • Share some eternal truths…

          • You know this how?

          • observation, and one that is universally accepted by all.

          • No, it is not. Wrong again. How would you know? You are eternal and everywhere, eh?

          • Yep, everywhere where life is, death ends that life.

            Prove me wrong.

          • I could not. Just as you cannot prove that is an eternal truth. You have been on one planet in a vast universe for a very limited time. You are beginning to seem mentally ill along with uneducated.

          • Sounds like you’re angry because you lost the argument. LOL.

          • How did I lose the argument, cretin?

          • Sycophant.

          • Do you know what that means? How am I a sycophant? https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/sycophant

          • LOL. Well done. And it’s more than he deserves. And why does he call you “Mah”? Is there a Dah?

          • LOL, I guess it is short for MAHB001

          • “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”
            —–Lenin

          • Yes, Hitler was a liar, but those quotes were not lies.

          • Mah:
            Yes, I agree. Here is the full Hitler quote:
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            “We are Socialists, we are enemies of the capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” ~ Adolph Hitler, May 1, 1927, Cited in “Adolf Hitler” ~ John Toland., 1976, p. 224
            ~~~~~~~~~~~
            http://www.amazon.com/Adolf-Hitler-Definitive-John-Toland/dp/0385420536/

          • Thanks,

            Coming from Hitler, that shows yet another trait that Hitler has with today’s Left. Hypocrisy.

          • Hitler was a fascist, conservative Christian, dropout.

          • Hitler was Socialist, and most socialists are Christian drop outs or in other words Atheists.

          • No, he was not. Your education. “First they came for….” Know the answer?

          • Dear YURIMAH001-

            Please read and educate your self-

            News Political News
            Were the Nazis Socialists?
            We look into the burning (at least for some) question of whether members of the National German Socialist Workers’ Party were accurately classified as “socialists”.
            By David Emery 5 September 2017

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            The full name of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Party, the political movement that brought him to power and supplied the infrastructure of the fascist dictatorship over which he would preside, was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. According to historians, the complicated moniker reveals more about the image the party wanted to project and the constituency it aimed to build than it did about the Nazis’ true political goals, which were building a state based on racial superiority and brute-force governance.

            Given that Nazism is traditionally held to be an extreme right-wing ideology, the party’s conspicuous use of the term “socialist” — which refers to a political system normally plotted on the far-left end of the ideological spectrum — has long been a source of confusion, not to mention heated debate among partisans seeking to distance themselves from the genocidal taint of Nazi Germany.

            The debate has heated up to the point of critical mass in recent years, thanks to the rise of nationalist political movements reacting in part to stagnant economic conditions and the perceived threat of globalism, and also in part to a flood of immigrants and foreign refugees pouring into Europe and the United States because of war and economic crises abroad.

            A subset of these groups, identified as ethno-nationalists, hold racially-tinged views ranging from nativism (the belief that the interests of native-born people must be defended against against encroachment by immigrants) to full-on, hate-mongering white supremacy. Some of the latter openly align themselves with historical Nazism, to the point of waving swastikas, spouting anti-Semitic rhetoric, and imitating the tactics of Adolf Hitler.

            Add to this mix the ascendancy of President Donald Trump, who won the 2016 election in part by courting a nativist, anti-immigrant constituency, and whose reticent condemnation of white nationalist protesters who held a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia that erupted in fatal violence in August 2017 drew howls of criticism from all but his most loyal supporters, and the urgency of sorting out these political associations begins to make sense.

            The Nazi Problem

            Nobody, least of all the millions of rank-and-file right-leaning Americans who voted for Donald Trump, wants to be lumped in with Nazis. It’s a fact, however, that Nazi-friendly organizations, Nazi symbols, and Nazi gestures were in evidence at the disastrous Charlottesville event, whose unfortunate title was not “Unite the Left,” but “Unite the Right.”

            Although the terms “left” and “right” as used in American politics can be somewhat less than perspicuous, they are helpful in delineating the basic ideological divide between liberalism/progressivism (as embodied mainly by the Democratic Party) on one side (“the left”), and conservatism/traditionalism (as embodied mainly by the Republican Party) on the other (“the right”). Seen as a spectrum or continuum of ideologies, socialism/communism traditionally falls on the far left end of this scale, nationalism/fascism on the far right.

            The Nazi problem comes down to this: As an ultra-nationalist, socially conservative, anti-egalitarian and fascist ideology, Nazism naturally falls on the extreme far-right end of the political spectrum; but if it can be successfully argued that it’s really a form of socialism, it would make more sense to place it on the far left. That being the case, it’s becoming more and more common to encounter insistent polemics like this one published on the right-wing blog UFP News:

            The Nazis were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape today.
            A similar argument is propounded in the 2017 book The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left by Dinesh D’Souza, who maintains that Adolf Hitler himself was a “dedicated socialist”:

            In statement after statement, Hitler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
            However, the assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.

            Richard J. Evans: ‘It Would Be Wrong to See Nazism as a Form of, or an Outgrowth From, Socialism’

            Despite having declared, at various times, “I am a socialist,” “We are socialists,” and similar avowals, on a personal level Hitler displayed little regard for the actual tenets of socialism, or, for that matter, socialists themselves. This excerpt from a speech Hitler gave in 1922 (quoted in William L. Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, published in 1960) is indicative:

            Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of the nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, “Deutschland ueber Alles,” to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land — that man is a Socialist.
            And this is what came out of Adolf Hitler’s mouth on another occasion when a comrade riled him by harping on socialism (as reported by Henry A. Turner, author of German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler, published in 1985):

            Socialism! What does socialism really mean? If people have something to eat and their pleasures, then they have their socialism.
            In his 2010 book Hitler: A Biography, British historian Ian Kershaw wrote that despite putting the interests of the state above those of capitalism, he did so for reasons of nationalism and was never a true socialist by any common definition of the term:

            [Hitler] was wholly ignorant of any formal understanding of the principles of economics. For him, as he stated to the industrialists, economics was of secondary importance, entirely subordinated to politics. His crude social-Darwinism dictated his approach to the economy, as it did his entire political “world-view.” Since struggle among nations would be decisive for future survival, Germany’s economy had to be subordinated to the preparation, then carrying out, of this struggle. This meant that liberal ideas of economic competition had to be replaced by the subjection of the economy to the dictates of the national interest. Similarly, any “socialist” ideas in the Nazi programme had to follow the same dictates. Hitler was never a socialist. But although he upheld private property, individual entrepreneurship, and economic competition, and disapproved of trade unions and workers’ interference in the freedom of owners and managers to run their concerns, the state, not the market, would determine the shape of economic development. Capitalism was, therefore, left in place. But in operation it was turned into an adjunct of the state.
            For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes:

            Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word “socialist” but the word “workers” in the party’s official name of National Socialist German Workers’ Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of “democracy and liberalism.” On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party.
            The plain truth, writes Historian Richard J. Evans in The Coming of the Third Reich, was that Hitler and his party saw socialism, communism, and leftism generally as inimical to everything they hoped to achieve:

            In the climate of postwar counter-revolution, national brooding on the “stab-in-the-back,” and obsession with war profiteers and merchants of the rapidly mushrooming hyperinflation, Hitler concentrated especially on rabble-rousing attacks on “Jewish” merchants who were supposedly pushing up the price of goods: they should all, he said, to shouts of approval from his audiences, be strung up. Perhaps to emphasize this anti-capitalist focus, and to align itself with similar groups in Austria and Czechoslovakia, the party changed its name in February 1920 to the National Socialist German Workers’ Party…. Despite the change of name, however, it would be wrong to see Nazism as a form of, or an outgrowth from, socialism. True, as some have pointed out, its rhetoric was frequently egalitarian, it stressed the need to put common needs above the needs of the individual, and it often declared itself opposed to big business and international finance capital. Famously, too, anti-Semitism was once declared to be “the socialism of fools.” But from the very beginning, Hitler declared himself implacably opposed to Social Democracy and, initially to a much smaller extent, Communism: after all, the “November traitors” who had signed the Armistice and later the Treaty of Versailles were not Communists at all, but the Social Democrats.
            What Nazism Stood For

            The National Socialists completely ignored socialism’s primary aim (replacing the existing class-based society with an egalitarian one in which workers owned the means of production) and substituted their own topsy-turvy agenda, Evans writes, “replacing class with race, and the dictatorship of the proletariat with the dictatorship of the leader”:

            The “National Socialists” wanted to unite the two political camps of left and right into which, they argued, the Jews had manipulated the German nation. The basis for this was to be the idea of race. This was light years removed from the class-based ideology of socialism. Nazism was in some ways an extreme counter-ideology to socialism, borrowing much of its rhetoric in the process, from its self-image as a movement rather than a party, to its much-vaunted contempt for bourgeois convention and conservative timidity.
            German historian and National Socialism expert Joachim Fest characterizes this repurposing of socialist rhetoric as an act of “prestidigitation”:

            This ideology took a leftist label chiefly for tactical reasons. It demanded, within the party and within the state, a powerful system of rule that would exercise unchallenged leadership over the “great mass of the anonymous.” And whatever premises the party may have started with, by 1930 Hitler’s party was “socialist” only to take advantage of the emotional value of the word, and a “workers’ party” in order to lure the most energetic social force. As with Hitler’s protestations of belief in tradition, in conservative values, or in Christianity, the socialist slogans were merely movable ideological props to serve as camouflage and confuse the enemy.
            The proof was in the pudding. Not long after acquiring the reins of power, the Nazis banned the Social Democratic Party and sent its leaders and other leftists identified as threats to the National Socialist program to concentration camps. According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia:

            In the months after Hitler took power, SA and Gestapo agents went from door to door looking for Hitler’s enemies. They arrested Socialists, Communists, trade union leaders, and others who had spoken out against the Nazi party; some were murdered. By the summer of 1933, the Nazi party was the only legal political party in Germany. Nearly all organized opposition to the regime had been eliminated. Democracy was dead in Germany.
            Despite continuing certain Weimar-era social welfare programs, the Nazis proceeded to restrict their availability to “racially worthy” (non-Jewish) beneficiaries. In terms of labor, worker strikes were outlawed. Trade unions were replaced by the party-controlled German Labor Front, primarily tasked with increasing productivity, not protecting workers. In lieu of the socialist ideal of an egalitarian, worker-run state, the National Socialists erected a party-run police state whose governing structure was anti-democratic, rigidly hierarchical, and militaristic in nature. As to the redistribution of wealth, the socialist ideal “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” was rejected in favor of a credo more on the order of “Take everything that belongs to non-Aryans and keep it for the master race.”

            Above all, the Nazis were German white nationalists. What they stood for was the ascendancy of the “Aryan” race and the German nation, by any means necessary. Despite co-opting the name, some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality.

          • The point? Hitler never said that by the way…

        • Wrong. It’s the CRONY capitalism of the oligarchs that steal the planet’s resources. Your quips may seem cute to you, but the effect is 1984-speak.

          • I’m not wrong. You repeated my point. Did people speak differently in 1984? Personal attacks do not advance the debate in a positive way. Lets strive to solve problems not start fights.

          • Until WE THE PEOPLE can control those we elect and send to Congress we will not see any changes. We Must Work To Put Teeth In The Recall Procedures AND – See That All Elected Men And Women DO THE JOB WE SEND THEM TO WASHINGTON TO DO.

          • Yes. Our constitution and the American way of life is based on Freedom, first and foremost, (and not just freedom to make a lot of money). Everyone must strive to understand the true meaning of that concept. We cannot have Freedom without equality for all people and laws that enforce it. It seems too many people are willing to support a dictator as long as the dictator agrees with them.

          • I do not think EQUALITY OF ALL PEOPLE is possible, therefor your version of freedom is not possible. That is a pure socialist argument and twisting of words.

            Equal opportunity under the law would be a clearer and more concise statement.

            The Constitution does not support a dictator, it supports a Republic where the control still lies with the People. But our Government has transformed our Government from Of the people, by the people and for the people, to of the Elites, by the elites, and for the control of the People…. And Resources…

            In short, our Government has been morphed into a form of Communism, via the subversion of the Constitution.

          • Mah:
            Marx explicitly rejected freedom, liberty, constitutions, and the rule of law. Authoritarian socialists rule by personal authority, they ignore laws, and rule by dictat. Marx’s dogma directly opposed the democratic free-enterprise republic.

          • We the People can no longer assume that the people we are electing to do a job to represent us, and look out for our interests will do that without supervision.

            In other words, we can no longer trust the people we vote for to do the things they say they are doing, so we must never turn our backs on our representatives, and we must watch them, and make sure their actions are true to their promises.

          • LOL. So stop fighting. When you’re wrong, you’re wrong.

          • Again, no help just gas.

          • I’m not your doctor. Take something for your gas.

          • EXACTLY, Crony capitalism is just another form of Communism.

          • Mah:
            Yes. Aristotle described these problems in ca 325 BC.:
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            – Tyrants always have a surrounding oligarchy
            – The oligarchy gets rich through cronyism
            – The tyrant is eventually overthrown by the victimized populace
            – Who then installs a new tyrant, who assembles a new oligarchy
            – etc. etc.
            Communism / authoritarian socialism / Nazism are just new labels for an ancient political structure.

          • Very wise words… Thank you.

            The Left would have us ignore History so they can repeat it.

        • BS, Faith in God, and that God shall provide is what is lacking in your analysis.

          • Mah:
            Well, according to the far left “Club of Rome” [ca 1975], we are running out of oil, and we will run out in 1992 (!). Their chapter on ‘technological fixes’ claimed that none would fix the catastrophic end of oil.
            ~~~~~~~~~~~
            The Club of Rome website still sticks by that 1992 prediction (!)

          • Interesting, all the lefts arguments would have us give control of everything to the Government…. Foolishly believing that the Government is the only entity that can save mankind….
            I think that is why most on the Left are Atheists.

          • Is “BS” from the bible? I read it many times throughout my life and did not see it there. I know I would have noticed that. BTW, I doubt God wants in on this.

          • BTW, I doubt you really know what God wants.

          • I don’t claim to know what God wants. But he created all of us, without grades or rankings. I don’t know what he wants but I can’t see a creator wanting the destruction of the creation i.e., his people, or his planet, in the name of politics by war. When did I say I know what God wants?

          • Read the last words of your last post…
            ” BTW, I doubt God wants in on this.”

            Your comment, “The trouble with capitalism is that eventually you run out of the planets resources.” assumes that the planet is going to run out of resources. In order for that to happen, you must not believe that God will provide. ??? If you believe in God, then there is NO trouble with Capitalism. 🙂

            To that original comment, I called BS. because it shows a lack of faith in God and the fact that God will provide for His people.

            Correct me if I am wrong but, God put us on Earth, gave us dominion over the Earth and its creatures, commanded that we be good stewards, and then said go out and multiply. And then I guess we took a bite of the apple. dohhhh….

            Gods commandments sound a whole lot like Capitalism to me…. Man enjoying the fruits of his labor…

            The pure socialism you describe is a society where nobody owns anything, everybody works for the collective (perhaps God??) and the collective provides to each what he needs…

            As I see it, the socialism that you talk about can not exist on Earth until evil is removed from the planet. In fact, all attempts to achieve socialism have fallen short with the end result being a form of communism. The latest being Venezuela.

    • The Progressives insinuate themselves into elements of the private sector that are complex and costly, take over management, add Byzantine complexity, create massive bureaucratic agencies to administer them hiring tens of thousands of people at taxpayer expense, and call the fiscally unsustainable result “Free.” I don’t know if naming the ACA “Affordable” was a concession to the impossibility of it naming it “Free” (and I guarantee if they get Single Payer they WILL call it “Free”), but it’s so far from being “affordable” (with the bankrupt exchanges, bankrupt Risk Corridor, sky high premiums and deductibles and towering debt) that they might just as well have called it “free” by their own definition of the word.

  4. Maybe they should canvass the Democrats who’ve been pocketing a little extra on the side for years and years to finance lavish lifestyles at donors and taxpayers expense and ask them to give some of it back. They could appeal to their sense of patriotism, loyalty, fairness and honesty, then when pigs are flying with newly spouted wings all over America Democrats will be back in the saddle again.😂😂😂

    • Wasn’t it Tom Hanks that said pigs will fly before Donald Trump will be President if the United States? Haven’t seen any flying pigs yet….. still looking…

      • Those arrogant jerks were all so sure that Kill-liar-y, the hag, had the election in the bag. DemoNazi Dimwits. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e1cd4cd4a5467bb77e43a1ad27c241d048ff1865fd906273ff88f5a187c7e3e.jpg

        • So were the Republican Progressives. So much so that they didn’t even trouble themselves to devise a reasonable excuse for keeping Obamacare – they were depending on Hillary to protect it for them. The ones that were radically passionate about Repeal while campaigning for office now even resist changing it. In my opinion, the Senate missing by one vote was a negotiated deal – the Senators whom they could afford to sacrifice, the ones who wouldn’t be running again anyway – allowing others to placate their voters by voting for the worthless “rename it” bills.

          • You forget about the lobbyist that Republicans depend on . ACA should be abolished because of the taxes involved .

        • you know it’s bad when u loose a riged election

          • I agree. That has to be the reason Hillary was so distraught election night. How can you come out and concede when your election machine kept telling you they had stuffed the ballot box enough to win.

            They failed to believe fly-over country would come out in droves to vote against her. They thought apathy would set in, but voila!! middle America came through and delivered the world a new president and a very new agenda.

          • Shake shack helped the workers make it through the night. That’s when the DNC came on the Russian narrative that Hillary won the popular vote, and the Russians once upon a time rigged all the votes against poor little old blameless, clueless disabled female of a candidate Hillary. Meanwhile back at the ranch, Hillary was drinking until she passed out . Blindsided. That’s why she has to ask what happened? Now she’s nailing her toes on falling stairs.

          • That’s why Hillarys missing the stairs, and nailing her toe.

        • what ever happened to the barge loaded with fire works for hitlerys celebration ???

      • Tom Hanks is a flaming homosexual. Who cares what he says.

      • Me neither. But I have seen lots and lots of liberal celebrities acting like pigs since the election.

        • “…liberal celebrities acting like pigs since the election.”

          What the hell does that mean?

          • Well let’s see, Madonna wants to blow up the Whitehouse. Kathy Griffin held up a severed head to ‘fight hate’. They’re claiming to be ‘proud’ of their abortions. They’ve attacked his family, his children. Continually indulge in the most outrageous hyperbole and ridiculous lies and nonstop vitriolic hatred while absurdly claiming to be the tolerant and inclusive. Need I go on?

          • please do…and show how petty you are…

          • How petty I am? Are you trying to prove your argument, whatever that is, or mine?

          • I am showing how petty and ludicrous you are.

          • Oh Rich Girod is a cheap troll. Time spent on him is wasted. Ignorant idiot morons, down grade them and move on to intelligent life. MAGA

          • Excellent post you named a lot of pigs someone put lipstic on but at the end of the day they are still pigs.

        • still waiting for them to move out of the USA

          • Like Clooney, he moved to Muslim London. Then he moved back , he didn’t feel as safe in Los Angeles. Can’t fix ourselves of this trash.

      • oink oink oink , oops that wasn’t a flying pig , it was a cellar dwelling swamp rat !!!

      • Leanardo Di Caprio has been flying so has HILLARY. Pigs are flying.

    • Not a chance!

      • Not bad for guy that hates America and his goofy so called wife.

      • Of course President Obama is rich but he wasn’t born rich. He is a perfect example of a citizen who achieved the so-called American dream. That’s supposed to be a good thing in America, is it not?

        • He did it by lying to the American people. What product has 0bama created? He is a classic mob boss.

          • Tell me one lie Obama ever told us.

          • One can not wake someone who pretends to be asleep.

          • This is your reply? You’re about to lose me. I am not here to hurl insults or to be insulted. I’ll simply ignore you. I am searching for truth only. So please try again. Thanks

          • Yep, that is my reply.
            If you do not see that 0bama lied about Benghazi by now, you are pretending to be asleep.
            If you do not see that 0bama and his administration lied about 0bamacare, you are pretending to be asleep.

            One can not wake someone who pretends to be asleep.

          • I’m not pretending to be asleep. What does that mean?After all the investigations and partisan efforts to “get ’em” they found nothing of these lies you speak of.

          • Incorrect, they found that they WERE Lies…. Do you treat someone who has knowingly lied to you the same both before and after you know they have lied to you?

          • Who lied to me? BTW your logo, “Mad As Hell” not good. Anger solves nothing, makes things worse and is very bad for health. Rage causes heart disease and stroke. Calm down, breathe deep so we can discuss things thoughtfully my fellow citizen. I really want the truth. Opinions are not truth. They tend to dwell in a fog covered forest of feeling, beliefs, and assumptions. Facts man, just the facts.

          • 9/19/12 day 8: In this video Obama admitted that by 9/19 he
            knew it was Al Qaeda

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58LrJJMxSM4 time 3:11

            0bama also said that the day after it happened he acknowledged it was an act of terrorism. Which was essentially admitting that he knew that it was an act of terrorism when he gave his UN speech that blamed the acts on a youtube video.

            Enough of your silliness. Again, you can not be awakened because you pretend to be asleep.

          • Relevance? Stop pretending to be awake silly. You’re mumbling in your sleep. Just kidding. As you said though, don’t forget history, unless it’s skewed history like the Benghazi story. We just had four American citizens killed senselessly in Niger. Obama again? Or Clinton? Not Trump, no way. I jest. However, let’s never forget the Marine Barracks in Lebanon under Reagan whom regretfully, I naively voted for.

          • Naive seem`s to be your forte. Find a nice quiet place and some coloring book`s and relax.

          • You asked for proof of a lie, I gave you one… And then you attempt to say that 0zero lying to the American people is old news…..

          • You offered no proof. Care to try again?

          • your word is not proof. is there anything else? please show me; I want the truth.

          • Apparently neither is 0bama’s??? It was 0bama’s own words that omitted he was lying at the UN speech.

          • For the very last time, where’s the proof. I TiVo’d every televised public appearance President Obama made for his entire 8 year term. He never lied.

          • Here is your proof that 0bama lied about Benghazi in 0bama’s own words.

            In this video Obama admits in his own words that he knew that the attack was a terrorist attack 3 days after the Susan Rice misinformation Sunday. That puts the date at 9/19/12. I have no clue why it took 0bama 3 days to figure out the attack was a terrorist act and not a reaction to some stupid video, but according to 0bama it did.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58LrJJMxSM4 time 3:11

            SIX DAYS LATER 0bama was still propagating the lie. Why does he make this 9/25/12 speech at the UN blaming the attack on a reaction to some stupid video? Was he lying or just moronically confused?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ijBilki-I Approx 14:25

            This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt with 0bama’s OWN words that he personally knew that the attack was not a reaction to a video, and HE Continued to LIE to not only the American People but to the UN.

          • The facts are on the way, I hope you will be able to see them. Obama is nothing more than a smooth talking con artist and you obviously are one of his sheep.

          • He is an excellent orator. But none of your comments have moved the debate even one centimeter out of the gutter. I would say swamp but I don’t dislike swamps; they’re important to the Earth’s ecosystem. See the Everglades.

          • He is an excellent con artist and you are one of his sheep.

          • Jesus loves sheep. Thank you.

          • When ever he spoke all of them were lies. But people like you never get it you are just one of his sheep he abandoned .

        • He is nothing more than a smooth talking con artist who had a big flock of sheep following him. He is an anti American coward who at this point got away with stealing the American tax payers money . His time is coming what goes around comes around. His new home will be jail along with Hillary.

    • You mean laundered money from foreign countries and lobbyist that control Congress . That is why they Hate Trump ,can’t be bought plus he knows the loop holes .

  5. Not to worry. Trump will go into bankruptcy again or will just stiff the vendors on their invoices. The advantage is all an illusion as is everything else with the lard ass liar, Trump.

    • ray2hill Why don’t you talk about how bad your demoncrat/socialist/communist party is doing? That afraid of President Trump? Be afraid, be very afraid. We are going to take our country back and bury you demoncratic snowflakes.

    • It still beats the way the Demonrats court Rapists from Holywierd and Mooslime countries!! Maybe the DNC and Hitlary should have a big fundraising auction!!! They could auction off young girls!! That should fill their accounts with all of Holywierds and Mooslimes money!!! Heck even Billy Bob Clinton would like to have Humidors of every hair color!!

    • You clearly do not comprehend the nature of a corporation. If it goes into Chapter 7 bankruptcy the assets are sold and the creditors are recompensed proportionately. A large percentage of start up businesses fail within three years of inception. The “owners,” holders of stock in the company, are generally totally out of luck unless capital assets exceed debt.

      • Bankruptcy is failure. No one invests in a business for the purpose of achieving bankruptcy. Investors lose their investments. I know. I own 1000 shares in the corporation behind Service Merchandise. Remember them?

        • Francisco Machado

          Why someone invested in the business isn’t relevant. Just one scenario: A business cannot cover its obligations and goes bankrupt. the bankruptcy court mandates an auction in which the highest bidder buys the company. The money paid for it is proportioned out to cover a percentage of the debt owed by the company and the buyer, who was in no way responsible for the failure of the company, now owns the company free and clear. It’s like if you bought a house and a painter approaches you saying the last owner didn’t pay him. That was a contract between the last owner and the painter – you own the house but have no responsibility for what’s owed the painter by the previous owner.

          • The auction may be one remedy, but if the painter places a mechanics lean on the house, the title search should find it. Then if the new buyer still buys the house, he also buys the lean and is responsible for payment and he cannot go bankrupt on that new debt.

    • What you described is a common business procedure used by many , and it depend on how the Business is set up and the investors loose no money and open up a new business the next day .The Government has allowed it .

    • Trump the individual has never had a bankruptcy. Ever. There have been entities within the Trump Corporation that have. Two entirely different things. Apparently you are to stupid to figure that out.
      Ray, the clueless delusional moron. Babble on nitwit.

      • Charlie …so according to you bankruptcy is a good thing…rrriight

      • The Trump corporation is Trump. He owns it all, therefore he is in complete control. It is not a publicly traded corporation (where are Trump stocks traded?), There is no board of directors to reign in his practices. The bankruptcies are solely his. Do you not understand business? Then learn, before you make public statements.

        • Wrong again there jimmy. I do understand business, obviously far better than you. Trump the individual and the Trump Corporations are two entirely different entities. How the individual runs his corporations within the limits of the laws is his business. I know that is hard for your anti-Trump brain to absorb but facts is facts live with it.

          • Thanks for calling me jimmy. I haven’t been called that since me Ma passed away. But, you said what I said. He runs his business. He bankrupted his business, several. Bankruptcy is only allowed in the law after a history of not paying your bills/debts. You cannot bankrupt new debt. If you set up a business for the sole purpose of utilizing the bankruptcy laws to avoid payments owed, that is federal bankruptcy fraud. I did not mean to say you did not understand business. I apologize sincerely Charlie.

          • You would be surprised at how often investors Buy a business, drain it and file for Bankrupt . As Preferred Stock holders they lose nothing . The laws allow it and that is why they register in Delaware !!!

          • When did he do that? Are you a preferred stockholder? Most stocks are common stocks.

          • No one in their right mind puts a business in their own name any more , but can still call it by name . It is Like Trump had said he knows the loop holes and uses them and until the laws are changed you can join him doing the same thing .

          • I can do the same thing? Not the same thing; I did not inherit a fortune. You think that makes any difference?

          • And you claim that you went to Business School yet you have no clue how it is done ??? I guessed right you are here to create problems .

        • You need to educate yourself how the System works and not what the Media writes about it .

          • Actually I went to business school. You know nothing of my education. Assumptions are ALWAYS WRONG.

          • Your posting BS does not support it . You should know how the system works unless you are here to create havoc ????

        • You should practice what you preach your the clueless one.

    • If you believe all that bull shit you just posted you need to see a shrink. You are one of the clueless fools around who never get it.

  6. America spoke….we don’t want the lefty loons vision of communism/ socialist country.
    The left wants socialism?
    Take all your supporters and move to Denmark or Venezuela
    Leave USA alone!!
    WE are unique and want to stay that way.

  7. when u have a loser in your party can never win or a big bunch of losers and has beens never win all they do is try to split America we are tired of it

  8. Some people might tell you that the Democrat Party is an American political organization, it is not. It is the front to a Marxist, globalist movement whose main objective is to destroy our Constitutional Republic and usher in a one world government.

  9. Why doesn’t Hitlary and the DNC auction of some young girls for their Holywierd Demonrat and Mooslime Donors?? THAT seems to help them normally!!!

  10. Hey, when the Chips are Down, there is always “The Clinton Foundation”. Oh, that’s right, the Clintons are into taking, not giving. Funny how they have been allowed to put the Government assets to work in extorting money from Foreigners seeking influence with US. Shameful! Illegal? Seems so.

  11. curmudgeon VN Veteran

    That’s what losing a rigged election will do for a corrupt political party. You have nothing left to sell!

  12. THIS SHOULD send them a message, loud and clear,
    but dumocommies ARE TOO STUPID TO LEARN!!

  13. I’m sure that scum bucket Soros will bail them out.

  14. HRC has committed more crimes than most serving life sentences. HOW does she keep escaping?? Back stabber like X FBI agent James.Comey has a lot to do w/ it.

  15. Hillary WILL commit suicide after murdering Bill. Chelsea will kill her children and husband.

  16. Good. The Demo-commies aren’t good for anything. Can’t wait for their screaming activities when Trump has been in office for 1 year, as well.

  17. Death to Hillary. Death to Bill. Death to Michelle Obama for lying about her gender.

  18. Money down a rathole.

  19. They are giving you a hint when they say ‘State Party’; get used to it because that is a faintly veiled cover for ‘The State Party’ of the dystopian society envisioned by the elite. Remember the $$$$$ money trail and “let them eat cake”. And Michelle actually thinks she will be backed by the party in 2020 forgetting that Shillary is already in the way muddying the swamp. We used to put people like that in white collar institutions of incarceration, now we glorify them and oogle at their lucullan existence; I suggest a diet of stale bread and brackish water from the swamp. Soros is waiting in the wings for the dramatic fiery spiral.

  20. Given Trumps popularity dems will never in a million years have enough money to beat Trump

  21. Below is a pic of Obama doing what he does best (SUCKING)

  22. I’m not surprised.

  23. Please run Hillary again, that was fun. This way we can call her a three time loser. Although, I’m not sure she’ll live another 3 years. I think the Devil will call that minion home before then.

  24. Maybe “the witch” can sell more uranium to Russia or simply declare the DNC a “decimated area” and send the remains of the clinton-crime-family-foundation to them?

  25. Oh ! Puhleeeeeeze ! Jus’ send in your name and three dollahs an we’ll put your name in a biiiiig pot an’ we’ll pull out the lucky winner who will get to ride along with Donna Brassiere an’ a picture of Hillary Clinton in a Candy Apple painted. 22″ Chrome wheeled, skinny tired, 1964, Olds Holiday wif a sooper boomer bass stereo sound system, and straight pipes comin’ frum dat 98, big, eight cylinder, Interceptor, rocket engine, to get take-out chicken frum Popeyes.
    NUTHIN LIKE IT ! !

  26. To use an ‘old’ expression, ‘At this point what difference does it make?’

  27. Maybe the Dems will get $2,000,000,000.00 (2 BILLION DOLLARS) in free media coverage next time like the Orange Moron, Tax Evader, Pervert, Draft-Dodger received. I wonder how all the Uneducated will feel when they lose their Health Care, and have only a voucher to wipe their butt. Then watch your taxes go up so the wealthy and Corporations will be taken care of. Thank you Republicons, thanks you crooks so very much!!

  28. They’re short on money because they are short on voters. Now think about this… during the past 40 or so years the Dems & libs have murdered 61 million of their future voters by aborting their unwanted unborn children. If they had not done that… Hillary [not Donald] would be in the oval office today because President Trump did not win by 61 million votes. Contrary to liberal thinking… there is a price for murder: a lost Presidential election and that is pretty pricey.

  29. LOL…George Soros said he wasn’t going to contribute. He’s busy buying RINO republicans now!

  30. Forget it fans – the Orange Moron won’t even be around. He’ll need all that money for Legal fees. He’s already spent over half a Million clams and they’re just getting started. You sheep keep donating – he and the family are going to need it – and plenty more!!

  31. The only trouble with communism’s GULAGS is the trousers don’t come with belts so one must use a right or left hand to keep from tripping and falling smack on ones kisser’s!

  32. As long as Democrats remain in total denial of what this Country wants, they will continue to tread water. They could start by being honest about things like the Uranium Scandal.

  33. I thought it was pretty plain in the last elections that it is not the money but rather the person who earns the election!
    Hillary Clinton had a massive campaign budget and an even larger campaign staff; neither one though did her any good. I believe enough people, at least those who cont, knew of Hillary’s failures, her lies, her theft from the White House, her ignoring advice to put security at Benghazi, her voting on bills without reading them and certainly her lies about her personal server and dispatching of highly classified national secrets over her illegal server that ANY reasonable person, regardless of party, knew better than to vote for her.
    NOW – – we have an administration that has vowed to fix the mess two prior presidents has taken the country into. And Trump, running on the much needed Change The Way Our Politicians fail to do their jobs, has inherited the task of fixing the mess in Washington, the mess that is hurting all of us.
    BUT, in spite of the need to fix the problems left by Obama we are still faced with FAR TOO MUCH unreasonable refusal to face realism and political negligence from the nay-Sayers in congress who seem to frightened to do their duty.
    I have been a registered Democrat the vast majority of my life but after six years of Obama I could not longer accept the direction our county was moving; the unemployment, the massive debt, the White House ignoring the greatest invasion of illegal immigrants in our history, the millions and millions of American workers out of work while the Obama Administration continued letting illegals work in the U.S. and Obama’s adding the massive number of ADDITIONAL legal immigrants to come here and work here; the Obama Administration turned it’s back on the American people.
    Obama ignored the need to stand up for America and the American men and women; AND – the democrats followed him allowing him to led us into the serious mess we are in today!
    I backed Trump throughout his campaign and into the elections and beyond. I backed him because I believe in what he was running on – AND I STILL DO. There is no way in hell that I would have ever baked Hillary Clinton -AND – I would not support her today had she been elected.
    As a matter of fact – I would support ANYONE in the White House and in congress that would take the same stand Trump has taken. I would be thrilled to see someone else pushing the Trump agenda but We elected Trump and we now owe it to him and to the nation to support him. I would be happier supporting someone else who would PUSH THE SAME agenda – but as log as Trump continues working for the good of the American people and our nation – – I Will Continue Supporting Trump. It will take FAR MORE than radical Far Left propaganda and the caliber of journalists and talk show hosts and their guests to change my mind – – they are, in my opinion, the ones that allowed Obama to take us into this mess!

  34. Carol Juliano Popp

    Dems are too dishonest to win

  35. Hillary took it. Look at Clinton charitable fund. Democrats, you’re welcome. It really was a no brainer. President Trump didn’t spend that much to get elected. He works hard. Very hard.

  36. I suspect that the other people with money no longer trust the likes of Pelosi, Schumer and the DNC with it.

  37. The Orange Moron could save 1/2 Billion dollars, but he’ll be using it all for legal fees making his personal lawyers rich. Then the Independent Counsel will fry him in the pan!!

    • But only out there in LalaLand where you live. Here in the real world, not a chance.
      Babble on nitwit.

      • Ha Ha – Watch the noose tighten, Chas. Isn’t it fun, skippy!!!

        • Yes it is skippy it is. Watching you pathetically desperate lib nitwits flail around trying to create something to cling to. Trumps the Prez and will be seven years from now. Get a grip before your head explodes.Babble on nitwit.

  38. They can go to Hillary and borrow some cash that she has in foreign banks. All taxpayer`s money she has stolen.

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