Gallup Poll: Electoral College More Popular Than Ever

A new Gallup survey shows that support for the Electoral College system is stronger today than it has been in many years. Following a controversial election that gave Hillary Clinton the popular vote while giving Donald Trump the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency, many on the left have championed a constitutional amendment to abolish the system. But if liberals are more eager than ever to get rid of the Electoral College, Republicans have renewed faith in the system.

According to the poll, 47% of Americans want to keep the Electoral College while 49% want to get rid of it and have the popular vote decide future presidential elections. That’s almost right down the middle, which is a big change. In previous surveys, a clear majority of the public expressed a desire to abolish the Electoral College:

Such sentiment has clearly prevailed when Gallup asked this question twice in 2000 — after George W. Bush won the Electoral College while Al Gore won the popular vote — in 2004 and in 2011. In each instance, support for a constitutional amendment hovered around 60%.

From 1967 through 1980, Gallup asked a slightly different question that also found majority support for an amendment to base the winner on the popular vote. Support for an amendment peaked at 80% in 1968, after Richard Nixon almost lost the popular vote while winning the Electoral College.

The turnaround in public opinion comes largely from Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. Of these Americans, 54% supported deciding the presidency by popular vote in 2011. As of today, only 19% want to do away with the Electoral College. You probably don’t need a Harvard political science professor to explain what’s going on.

At the same time, you can’t just say, “Oh, well, of course Republicans like the Electoral College after they used it to beat Hillary!” It’s not that simple. Voters have been exposed to some very good arguments for and against the system over the last two weeks. Republicans know that all of Hillary’s popular vote advantage comes from one state – California. A state that grows more dissimilar to the rest of the United States with every passing year. Our country was designed as a union of states, not just one massive, singular democracy.

The Electoral College gives the people of “flyover country” a relevance they would begin to lose if we abolished it. That doesn’t mean one way is right and the other way is wrong, but it does mean there is more to think about here than who won or lost the last election.

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  1. DO AWAY WITH POPULAR VOTE AS IS AND THE ELECTROCIAL VOTE ALSO AND REPLACE THEM WITH 50 STATE PLUS THE SATALITE PROVENCIES AS ONE TO BREAK THE TIE IN CASE OF ONE.

    THE MAJORITY OF EACH STATE WON, THIS WOULD ALLOW EACH STATE EQUAL SAY IN WHO IS ELECTED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. THIS ALSO GOES WITH THE SUPREME COURT, HAVE A JUDGE FROM EACH STATE, THEM AND EVERY SENATOR AND PRESIDENT, I PREFER, A 6 OR 8 YEAR TERM LIMIT, ONE TIME, OTHERWISE THEY SPEND THEIR TIME RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION.

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    • Yell much lately? All caps means you are yelling. This isn’t anything PC, it’s proper etiquette. Back to your point, so you want each state to have a single vote. Majority wins the the state’s vote for the candidate and whoever wins the most states wins, right? That’s pretty much how the electoral college works, except it’s ultimately based on population. A judge from each state on the Supreme Court? That’s too much, we don’t need that many. Nothing would ever get done, takes too long to argue in front of those we have now. Term limits on the President and Congress, absolutely. Problem is they won’t pass it.

    • the states have equal say now, that is why Trump is President Elect!!!!

  2. California’s liberal majority was amplified during this election cycle.

    Realizing that there was zero chance of taking that state, the Trump organization decided not to campaign there. Smart! But that led to a lot of conservative Prune Picking voters to stay home on election day — thereby giving the Hildabeest an additional boost in the popular vote.

    KEEP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. It allows the individual STATES in these UNITED States to elect their President.

    ‘Course, if you’re a liberal, you can’t see the wisdom of that.

  3. I, in my ignorance used to wonder why we had the electoral college at all and didn’t go with popular vote. Now after a couple of courses from Hillsdale college on the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, I am ever so grateful to our forefathers and the founders of this nation for their great farsightedness and will die, 2nd Amendment assuring, defending it from all usurpers. Especially those of Hitllarys and Obama’s ilk.

    • Hillsdale College does not get the credit that institution deserves. I love those courses, and they are free!

    • Rufus. Hillside College and educate anyone even Libtard Democrats.

    • Hillsdale is truly an American college. I give to them because they represent the best of what thus country is about. Public colleges in this country in most instances are polar opposite to Hillsdale.,

  4. Without the Electoral College, Manhattan and Malibu would be The Capitol and the rest of us would be District 12 in a permanent one-party “Hunger Games”. Leaving aside the apparent 5 to 10 million votes fraudulently cast by non-citizens, as well as an unusually strong turnout from the cemeteries, the supposed “popular vote victory” of the leather-clad liar from Lesbos was due entirely to the Third World malignant melanoma now growing on America’s left coast. Without the Electoral College the outcome of every presidential election would be as certain in advance as the farcical charades characteristic of the South American states she wanted to merge us with.

  5. Here are the facts: There are 3141 counties in America. Trump won 3084 of them. Clinton won 57 of them. There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16. Clinton won the popular vote by anywhere between 1.5 and 2 million votes (that is if you don’t count the illegals and dead people). In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of those counties as Trump won Richmond). Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country. These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles. When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election. Considering the above and the fact that Trump got 306 electoral votes and Hillary got 232 this election was indeed an overwhelming victory for Trump. Large, densely populated cities like NYC, Chicago, LA etc, don’t and should not speak for the rest of our country. I rest my case.

    • thank you!!!

    • Yes, you would not believe how many people I’ve argued with about this lately, using a very similar argument. How people don’t get this simple concept is beyond me.

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      • Impartial factor checkers rate this story as solid false, not even Partly false or pants on fire.

        • Hahahahahahahhaaa whatever makes you feel better. And which story are you even taking about? That more people now agree with the EC? Or that the EC does in fact better represent the country as a whole?
          Because of all the hoopla about this election and the EC, more people (well, at least those who actually use their own brains to form an opinion and don’t just listen to or read others’ opinions) have educated themselves on the purpose and method behind the EC. And we have realized, as florida3guy explained so well above, that the EC is very necessary. So yes, more people do now agree with it. As far as whether the EC does better represent the country and not just a few states, again, read florida3guy’s post above. A few states should not decide for the entire country. So incredibly ridiculous to have to keep stating that.

          • Thank you you obviously checked and found out I was right

          • I think you may have misread his statement. He is not agreeing with you.

          • This
            Is One of the Most Fake Convoluted Conservative Republican Lies on
            the Internet. Probably Generated by Breitbart News.com Which Is
            Generated 90% of the Fake Political Propaganda in the Last Few Years.
            You’ve Been Had

          • It is not me who has been had!

          • :
            Pope : “Spreading fake news is a sin”. Enough said.

          • Bwahahahahahha!! The MSM is the end all be all of fake news. Hillary ran her campaign on covering up and lying, and they helped her all along. That is a proven fact.
            And the Pope, really?

          • And you’re quoting? Trump is no choirboy in the lying department. Hillary admitted her mistake, all the other lies” about her you cannot prove it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/afbf8d473e88382c1fccf0cff5769a9633ad2e89083d2e66df68d7e80bb878ac.png

            So you don’t believe in religion? Your sounding creepier all the time

          • Again, saying something doesn’t make it true. Sorry to burst your bubble but I voted against Obama bc I disagreed with his policies and his vision for America. You saying my not voting for him or disliking him has anything to do with his color is racist on your part.
            I believe in Jesus Christ, first and foremost. Nothing to do with religion- that is a man-made thing. I do not agree with the Pope on many issues politically. I do however, agree with him about being pro-life and pro-traditional marriage. Which is why I would never vote for the Dems’ platform. And which is why I was surprised you would bring him up, considering since you supported Hillary, you must hold opposite views from those of the Pope.

          • Again saying something doesn’t make it false . Yes yes that’s what all my Republicans friends say that after eight years they can argue with his success in saving our economy, drastically lowering the unemployment rate., Saving the auto industry and https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/729993985b6b6caff4b347122b7f4d51f7a0d22ff21da75489e8540d0a2ec46f.png 1.5 million jobs and helping moving the 7000 Bush low market to over 18,000 high over eight years. All this despite Republican constant obstruction. Wait for it Thanks Obama quotes.
            I’m to inform ever vote Republican.Republican Party has moved so far to the radical extreme right bordering on fascist dictatorship that I feel that my grand old Republican Party, no longer exist in the form that I would possibly support.
            So maybe you should clean up your own party. But I am open-minded enough that if you have any credible reason to support the current Republican agenda I certainly would listen unlike the others.

          • If you look at the actual stats and not what the Obama admin reported, you’d see your picture again is flawed. Same for the economy. National growth is lower. Debt is higher than ever before. Seriously? More people unemployed now. Btw, Doesn’t count as a job when corporate trained workers are taking jobs that hs educated kids could get, or when retired people have to enter the work force again to make ends meet, due to decreased benefits and Obamacare (of which we have only just begun to see the negative effects).
            Our country is more racially divided and politically divided. Yes, thanks Obama.
            As I believe I have alluded to already, I do not support all of the Repub party. Maybe one or two of the entire bunch. I mean cmon, this is partly why an outsider was elected. So save that for someone else. And I also will listen while you explain how you could possibly support the current Dem agenda with its closets full of deceitful individuals that have been exposed in this cycle alone. Or how you could support a woman who’s done and said the very things you seem to be against (she’s insulted people of color, made fun of Latinos and spoken about how we could not handle being told the truth, that one must say one thing in cabinet and another in public. Just to name a few things. And again, these are all on video and audiotape, but surprise! not reported by the msm.
            But this isn’t about any of that, anyway. And we’re not going to change one another’s minds. So have a good day. And we have your guy a chance. Give this one a chance. Based on what he does, not what the media SAYS he’s doing, or thinking.

          • Where’s that link it’s not working? Probably because it doesn’t exist

          • Your Obama computer could be on the fritz.

          • Or it doesn’t exist

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

          • Where are the facts?

          • Washington Post 12/10/2016

          • hahaha today

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.GOD HELP US.

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information.
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

          • THIS IS NEWS!
            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016
            Elections.
            If this is not true, then why is Donald Trump Spewing so many spinning
            bricks about the news, everything else is sounds more like a
            cover-up? This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be
            Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the
            Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation
            of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.
            Grow up and get over
            it, I feel the same way about Trump as you did when Obama was elected. I
            have no interest in changing your mind, I just feel that you will
            understand in the next few years hopefully. You voted for, Donald J
            Trump AND what he does from now is own YOU.

          • If it makes you feel better to say Russia got Donald Trump elected go ahead. It will change nothing. However, the source you site here is the second most progressive communistic so called democratic newspaper in the nation. Just how does anyone think the point you and the Washington Post wish to make can ever be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. They cannot and never will be. The main stream media, of which the Washington Post is a major part, is expected to have this type of propaganda spread around. Looks like a little more of the false news. It is obvious hillary would have been a continuation of the obama administration. Which both Russia and China liked. It is the reason China is building islands in the South China sea to extend its territory and control in that area. Russia would also welcome a third obama, do nothing, term as well . They could continue to expand their influence as well. Perhaps beyond Ukraine.

            You are kidding yourself if you really think Russia wanted to back anyone of the two. Furthermore, the information that got released in those emails the people had a right to know. The democrats were at fault for acting in such a manner. Since they were verbatim it is certainly not the messengers fault who hacked and released them. If the democrats did not want them seen by the electorate they should not have written them. You democrats have no one to blame but yourself. Perhaps some ignore the fact those who sent those emails were at least attempting to skew the election in their favor. They failed and their efforts became common knowledge. If they had not tried to influence the election themselves and not spoke as they did there would have been no reason to release them.

            In the final analysis however, there is absolutely no proof of anything you are proposing here. Just because the Washington Post printed something is “not” proof it is truth.

          • THIS IS NEWS!
            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016
            Elections.
            If this is not true, then why is Donald Trump Spewing so many spinning
            bricks about the news, everything else is sounds more like a
            cover-up? This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be
            Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the
            Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation
            of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.
            Grow up and get over
            it, I feel the same way about Trump as you did when Obama was elected. I
            have no interest in changing your mind, I just feel that you will
            understand in the next few years hopefully. You voted for, Donald J
            Trump AND what he does from now is own YOU. X1

          • Even though I did not accept obama as president and I have been accused, by democrats, of not liking him because of his race I respected the office of president. However, it certainly is not true that I did not like him because he was at least part black. He was totally inapt he has done nothing well. He was known in the Senate of voting “present” and not taking a side or making a decision.

            Although Donald has no experience in politics he has considerably more business experience then most politicians and most of his supporters think that is very likely a good thing. Including myself. By the way are you finally realizing you made a mistake when you voted for obama? It seems you may be because of your question to me. Donald Trump is not a Barack Obama. He is risking much to do what he is doing. He shall take no salary the first person since JFK. He has spoken his intentions. He actually means to make America Great Again. I do not think he will be another Ronald Reagan I sincerely believe he will be better if that is actually possible. In eight years conservatives and some democrats will be looking for another Donald Trump as some now look for another Ronald Reagan.

            Regarding Russia. Democrats are trying as hard as they can to suggest a reason (excuse) why hillary lost the election November eight. They have become so desperate they now accuse a foreign nation of interfering in the election, creating an international incident, and suggesting it was enough to elect Donald Trump. So just exactly “how” did they do that? By releasing authentic verbatim emails describing a plan to undermine the election in hillary’s favor? Those emails were written by high members of the democratic party, consequently they themselves were indicting. Seems to me the democrats are at fault for writing them. However, when hillary clintons emails did not show any evidence of hacking and it is rather certain they were. As John Bolton also pointed out did the Russians use the smart program to hack hillary’s emails and the dumb one to hack the DNC and RNC’s emails. John further suggests it could be a false flag which makes sense. Someone did it and left evidence behind to make it look like Russia did it. It could have even been the DNC themselves. No one including the CIA and FBI knows for sure and likely never will. The FBI will not even suggest it was Russia.

            This past election proved many things. One of those very important things is if you have the right message it is not necessary to have the most money. Donald Trump spent a few hundred million (a large portion of which was his own money) and hillary spent over 1.2 billion. However, Donald was able to get enough people to turn out to vote to even overcome considerable fraudulent voters voting for hillary. The difference was in the message. She spent money spreading innuendoes tearing down Donald while Donald spent money stating what he intended to do and sticking mostly to facts of hillary’s past record(s). A record, I might add, of doing nothing.

            Have a nice day

          • Wow sure did go to great lengths to say that you’re not a racist. Okay I’m with that, I used to be a Republican and I understand how the rhetoric plays out.
            How do you feel about this, I feel the same way about Trump, as you felted about Obama when he was elected 2008 okay.

            Now how do you feel about treason?

            A
            Huge Number of the Electoral College Delegates Are Asking for a CIA
            BRIEFING on the Russian Hacking Connection with the Donald Trump
            Campaign. I Hope They Will. Group of US Citizens That Is Engaging a
            Foreign Power to Influence Our Election Would Be Considered a
            Treasonous Offense. Of Course I Know That If You Were a White
            Nationalist Fascist Definitely Be against Patriotic Americans.

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          • Pretty sure if you did something 3% of the time you shouldn’t be known for it.
            http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/obamas-legislative-record/

          • Two former ambassador’s now pointing the finger at the Democrats !
            ( F.B.I. ) DISCOUNTS and highly doubts as to RUSSIA being the hacking PERPETRATORS. Further more HOMELAND SECURITY has been caught red handed & TAGGED BY GEORGIA’S ELECTION OFFICIALS FOR ATTEMPTING TO HACK GEORGIA’S ELECTION SYSTEMS. THIS STINK IS SMELLING JUST LIKE THE FAST A FURIOUS ILLEGAL GUN SALES TO MEXICAN & COLUMBINE DRUG CARTELS BY ERIK HOLDER AN BARRACK Hussein OBAMA. As well as the illegal sales of arms to known terrorist groups in Libya.

          • More drivel and no facts from your friendly moron. Failed again doofus.

          • https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c04af762bf0b6a09b160d7503b138cbd17185d5097d0abbb0dcea493d2ab909.jpg

            A
            Huge Number of the Electoral College Delegates Are Asking for a CIA
            BRIEFING

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            No thinking person believes this made-up crap!!! This is NOT news. It is the same made-up, cooked-up crap to cover Clintoons fat arse!! SHE had the unsecured server that left
            it vulnerable for anyone/everyone to hack!! SHE and MSM cooked up this cover “story” to try to absolve her of the guilt of what she had done!!! NOW the mSM is colluding with the left to get the electors to vote against TRUMP on Monday. So , I imagine that Oldbummer will use this garbage to delay the electoral vote on Monday. He is so TRANSPARENT!!!!!

          • hahahaha A THINKING REPUG TOO FUNNY!

            HAHAHA TRANSPARENT!!!!! TAX RETURN , MASSIVE CON-FLIX BUSINESS, PAT FOR PLAY, LIES LIES LIES LIES LIESX333
            You would not know truth, no how. Fake or Flake.

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          • Hello? No, you’re wrong and we disagree. Pretty sure I explained that in my post. But you reading my post and somehow getting that I think you’re right is typical of your side. You ignore what’s right in front of you and see only what you want to see, or what someone else tells you you’re seeing.
            Have a good one.

          • I do enjoy poking fun at right-wingers. Actually I’m a X
            Republican that gives me a special insight into
            the coded right-wingers. I’m not questioning your patriotism our
            politics, what I am questioning your sources and your lack of fact checking. There is no question that is a fake made up conservative fabrication.

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          • Again, the story is not made up. For every source you give me that says it is, I could give you one that says it isn’t. Such is the state of our news media today.
            As a Dem you ought to appreciate the EC, as it favors your candidate. As a Repub or Independent, I favor it bc it gives states more fair representation. We are a Republic (of states), not actually a democracy. If we lose the EC, not only do a handful of states decide every election, but going forward states other than that handful will lose power, as candidates will only be concerned (not just during a campaign but all year) with keeping happy the ones who will give them the victory in November.
            As for “blind trust,” that is priceless coming from a Dem that supports Hillary. And get this, we don’t blindly trust Trump. We adamantly do NOT trust Obama or Hillary or the other liars, many Repub included, in Washington.

          • You didn’t even address most of what I said. But since you’re stuck on the veracity of the article, snopes only made the point that it couldn’t verify the number was only 57 but that it was more likely in the 100s. Ok…. If that makes you feel better…. Trump still won an overwhelmingly large majority of counties. And funny that the author of that article you cited has a disclaimer that says “Although she was investigated and found to be “probably false” by snopes.com in early 2002, Kim later began writing for the site due to an executive order unilaterally passed by President Obama during a secret, late-night session (without the approval of Congress). ” Interesting.
            Trump won. Hillary lost. She failed to energize her base, she failed to bring in the Obama coalition they depended on, and many 2008 and 2012 Obama supporters flipped for Trump in this election. It was not the fault of the EC, or Comey, or fake news or Obama. It was HER fault.

          • One link isn’t even there (and try something other than snopes?). The other is same one as before. ?
            You assume I haven’t done my own research. I have. All through the primaries and all through the general, and still now. You saying I don’t doesn’t make it true.

            Hillary lost. Get over it and move on.
            Have a good one.

          • Really that’s what you got? Where’s the link to your story, first back up your own crap. And try something other than Breitbart news.com or Fox news.com. You’re just upset, caught you supporting a lying Republican fake story. Either apologize or move on, and Give your brain a chance.
            Republicans played you like a piano. LOL Suckers

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          • What I got? What I got was the same old tired denial from you.
            I don’t use those sources. I listen to and read as much as I can. I read things from lib sources and inevitably discover the spin. BOTH sides have sources that are unapologetically biased. But I have found so many lib sources that have been proven wrong by actual video and transcript. Don’t assume I’m naive and only listen to conservative sources. But I know which on both sides have reported negative but true stories on both candidates.
            If you’d looked at all my posts, all but maybe one or two (and those are in response to you!) are not about this article but about why the EC is necessary. That has been the crux of my comments, and it’s one you can’t stomach. So give up your stance that the veracity of this article has ANYTHING to do with the need for the EC. I believe it is you, and your failure of a candidate, that is upset. I won’t ask you for an apology; you’re entitled to your opinion, as I am, so it’s telling that you would even ask that.
            Take a look in the mirror beside a picture of Hillary Clinton and think about who’s been played.

          • Okay : ” Bandara Carlos ” How about these Following sites IBtimes uk>Uk> these maps-graphs-s… Trump wins over 2,700 of the 3,141 counties in & across America. NOw If your not happy with that site. Well then, Try this one on for size ,w.w.w.inquister.com Trump wins over 2,800 of the 3,141 US counties . Still not happy well then try this one on for size. w.w.w.thee pochtimes Dec 1 2016 Trump wins more then 2700 of the 3,141 U.S counties.
            Breitbart may have been a tad bit over zealous but, They for sure were dam close. Clinton was crushed In around and across the US. So to were the Dumbo – Progressive – Demo-rats. YOU LOST AMERICA WON>

          • The link you posted takes me to the site that wants me to buy that domain so I assume everything else was fake.
            But I do appreciate you admitting that I was right about the original story, now question every outrageous story is being fact until you can triple check it. Merry Christmas https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b24811b90b3ffb4b6db62a9c6bb86ba0c04d6eb9b2564ce445cbbd293a6d239d.jpg

          • So you had an issue with one of the 3 links I posted. .Then proceeded to claim them false.Which only adds to the opinion of others that your incapable of comprehensive research or that facts found upon completion of said research .

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!

            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mrs. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest

            This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

          • Breaking News Obama CIA political appointee Claims Russia deliberately interfered. News Flash NSA cough trying to hack into Georgia’s Elections.

          • THIS IS NEWS!
            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016
            Elections.
            If this is not true, then why is Donald Trump Spewing so many spinning
            bricks about the news, everything else is sounds more like a
            cover-up? This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be
            Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the
            Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation
            of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.
            Grow up and get over
            it, I feel the same way about Trump as you did when Obama was elected. I
            have no interest in changing your mind, I just feel that you will
            understand in the next few years hopefully. You voted for, Donald J
            Trump AND what he does from now is own YOU.

          • BC, the number of counties doesn’t matter, Electoral College votes count. Democrats and Hillary forgot that. They spent so much time laughing a Trump and his “deplorables”, that they failed to see the writing on the wall, they failed to hear the anger coming from the real middle class as contrasted to the media/movie liberals. We are now taking our Country back!

          • Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
            I get tRUMP is Your National Fascist Leader. Sorry I’m laughing at you because Donald Trump appointees ARE going to be filled with people that stole your future. You now on your vote, bend over and wait for the IT.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32afc71dbdcb1b63347f06f55ca84141a72f3529ca83629b769bf07bd88b2a4b.jpg

          • BC, No you don’t get it. If you did you be a Trump supporter. Anyone with Business experience is preferable to career politicians. You obviously don’t know the definition of fascism either. Laugh all you want – you lost and laughing is better for you than all the crying, wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth going on now with most liberal pussies.

          • https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2fb5fb5155f5144226a6398bb80f039934903faeb7ff828c813faec6b2f4568.png Get over it, I feel the same way about Trump as you did when
            Obama was elected. I have no interest in changing your mind, I just
            feel that you will understand in the next few years hopefully. You
            voted for, Donald J Trump AND what he does from now is own YOU.

          • Breaking news; Peatro committed to asylum. Yes, the time has come to send him somewhere else. Because now only the schizophrenic and disturbed can listen to him – it was that or stand-up comedy. Unfortunately the public found his act sad and pathetic when he was aiming for macabre and irrelevant (was going to write irreverent, but seemed a bit too intelligent for him).

            Good news Peatro, although you’ll be restricted internet usage in the asylum there is another moron vying for your crown (dumbasshickstoopid). Yes step up YJuma – let’s hear it folks, another moron has landed from planet DumbVIII

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts. OMG

          • Forget her. She is helpless and hopeless . She can’t be saved from the alt left. Same deranged mentality as that psycho psychologist professor who spouted hate and anarchy. What was her name Olga Stable Cox? Ironic she had STABLE as part of her name . Anything but stable.

          • Plays such a beautiful tune called Donald Trump

          • That’s all you got the ringing in your ears.
            Name three things you think he can do For the middle class not just lip service?

            That’s okay I could not either. LOL

          • Repeal and replace Obamacare. Get rid of unnecessary regulation so small and large businesses will create real jobs for the middle class instead of losing middle class jobs like Obama has. Take more people off of government assistance . Kill Dodd Frank, the real culprit of the housing bubble. Being those local banks back to help those people in their localities. People are extremely excited about a real hope to improve their lives instead of the hype and despair Obamas offered. Also Trump loves America and Obama not so much . Trump will put us first and not make an apology tour like Obama did throughout his rule. Yes Trumo will govern . Obama ruled.The middle class will rise up again as they did in the election.. The left is for 2 classes. They have to eliminate the middle class to keep full control of the country. The middle class is the only thing which insures we will be a free society and not a communist country . Look at Obamas heros. Saul Alinsky, Karl Marx, Bill Ayres and Bernadette Doryn. All of those people and their followers are dangerous to our freedoms. Now tell me 3 things Barrack Obama did not only for the middle class but for all Americans . That’s ok I couldn’t think of one either. Worst president ever. A disgrace to the office of the president .

          • Oops!! Trump was right. Hillary didn’t win legal popular vote.

            As Wisconsin recount results come in Milwaukee wards are showing anomalies that indicate potential absentee ballot fraud.

            Update: A federal judge has halted the Michigan recount after the discovery of statewide voter fraud in Michigan.

            The Wisconsin Board of Elections of elections is withholding Milwaukee absentee ballots from the official recount which as of day 5 shows Hillary Clinton losing 34,243 votes.

            In doing so they may be telegraphing to the public there has been vote fraud conducted on behalf of Hillary Clinton as the missing votes, whether or not they are all absentee ballots, vastly favor Hillary Clinton by a margin of 10 to 1.

            The anomalies come as massive vote fraud was uncovered in Democrat strong holds in Michigan just before a Federal Judge has halted the recount there.

            According to the official original vote counts, Hillary Clinton won Milwaukee county by a little over a 2 to 1 margin winning 288,797 votes compared to Donald Trumps 125,846 votes which represents a 2 to 1 margin.

            Digging into the recount results more glaring anomalies pop out, including one ward which Hillary won by a margin of 242 to 1 and six with margins higher than 100 to 1.

            As the recount continues, some of these originally reported vote margins are being revised way downward more inline with the win margins of neighboring wards and with the county wide average.

            For example, Hillary Clinton won Ward 34 by a margin of 100 to 1 in the original count but the recount now has it 2 to 1.

            Oddly Hillary only won neighboring wards 33 and 35 by 2 to 1 margin which is inline with the county average.

            milwaukee-recount-anomolies
            Despite only a 2 to 1 win margin county wide some Milwaukee wards have anomalous win margins for Hillary Clinton in the original vote count. As the the votes are recounted, some of these margins are coming more in line with the county average.

            Ward 32 originally showed a 5 to 1 victory for Hillary but but after the recount the margin is now closer to 3 to 1, again much closer to the county average.

            In neighboring Ward 31 the original count shows Hillary winning by 10 to 1, but there are still no count results for the precinct.

            Such huge discrepancies in win margins from neighboring wards could be an indicator of vote fraud for Hillary Clinton and the anomalies in Milwaukee county are widespread.

            Should the missing votes reappear in the form of absentee ballots and they continue to favor Hillary Clinton at a 10 to 1 margin, in a state where she lost and in a county were she only one by a 2 to 1 margin, it may indicate vote fraud.

            This same strange phenomenon is occurring in the Pennsylvania recount where officials have discovered 22,000 ballots which were not reported in the original vote count and where 90% of them are in favor of Hillary Clinton.

            There is not only the mathematical discrepancies but additional circumstantial evidence. Before the election the FBI raided a democratic office outside of Philadelphia with a warrant seeking materials used to produce fake ballots.

            In Broward County Florida, the democrats were caught opening 10,000s of thousands republican ballots and changing the votes and illegally processing over 150,000 ballots.

          • More fake news I’m Yannig more boring

          • Incredible,Why are you so worried about a recount? No need to lie yet,You sound so desperate WOW

          • Oops!! More voter fraud. Thanks for the recount Jill. You may end up another Clinton body bag. One third of Detroits precincts thrown out. Two states about 100,000 votes. How many in Californis, New York, Illinois, Nevada. Heck all the blue states. Run a recount on all of them so we can see the extent of the fraud. Trump was right he did win the popular vote . Hillary won the fraudulent vote overwhelmingly .

          • Fake news

          • Incredible,Why are you so worried about a recount? No need to lie yet,You sound so desperate

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            Poor Dr. Jillenstein!!! Recounts gave Mr. Trump even more votes. Hahahahahaha!!!
            Since that didn’t work NOW the bogus “Russian Connection” hoax!!!

          • You don’t make sense and prove my point in.voter suppression and gerrymandering and the Russian involvement in our election is apples and oranges. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4111cb5d0bdd5a4f69f63f094baceaa5c62756875589874e2ba8b622ec3ece6a.jpg

          • Think Obama admin will have a fed investigation on all the voter fraud?? Guess will have to wait till we have new AG. They can look at Nevada now . My guess is Trump won big. Democrats are a real piece of crap.

            Oops here we go again!!!

            Massive voter fraud in the 2016 Presidential election has been uncovered in Nevada. Megan Barth from Newsmax said

            Well it appears Nevada, which has voted for the winner of the Presidency for the past 108 years may have been stolen and must be investigated by the Feds. Not Obama feds but incoming Attorney General Jeff Session must investigate this issue.

            Barth interviewed Republican Assembly Candidate for District 15, Stan Vaughan, who had actual proof of the massive voter fraud in his Clark County district. A total number of 17,086 votes were cast in the District for both Republican and Democrat candidates. However, when confirmation letters were sent to the voters in the District, the US postal service returned mail from 9,200 of these voters.

            Vaughn found that many of the people who are listed as deceased are still on the active voter rolls. Many of the returned mail came back with 5 people living in a vacant lot with no mail receptacle. Edward Snowden, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and dozens of movie stars were registered to vote in District 15 according to Mr. Vaughan.

            Vaughan tested a sample of 200 people of the 9,200 return mail and found that 185 of those had indeed voted. According to Mr. Vaughan, there were other serious voting system irregularities he documented.

            President-elect Donald Trump lost by only 27,000 votes statewide in Nevada. So 9,200 fraudulent voters in one small Assembly district is more than 1/3 of the total margin that Trump lost by.

            It was previously reported that Nevada poll workers wore defeat-Trump t-shirts at the polls during the election which was against the law and Hillary supporters were caught breaking the law before the election when registering people to vote as well.

            Green Party candidate Jill Stein has asked for recounts in three states won by President-elect Donald Trump in this year’s election (Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania). Her rationale for requesting these recounts was voter fraud. However, there is no indication Stein will request any recounts in Nevada.
            Thanks Jill

          • Your living in fantasyland

          • WOW,Why are you so worried about a recount? No need to lie yet

          • It’s an epidemic. Your party has no soul. Illinois major fraud by union thugs . Pay for votes.. Where is the lame street media reports ??? I think Trump should bring this up at his rallies .

            You are here: Home / US / Democrats And Unions Paying People To Vote In Illinois
            Democrats And Unions Paying People To Vote In Illinois
            By Robert Gehl 41 Comments
            voting-booth

            Leftist thugs in suburban Chicago have been caught paying people to vote for Democrats.

            The Kankakee County Attorney’s office is investigating at least three cases of voter fraud where people were offered bribes for voting.

            In addition, State’s Attorney Jamie Boyd said, “several” vote-by-mail applications have been mailed in from people who live outside the county, The Daily Journal is reporting.

            Related: Rampant Voter Fraud Discovered, Could Hold Repercussions For November Election

            “This unprecedented action was taken in response to reports of individuals from Chicago offering gifts to potential voters in exchange for a vote for Kate Cloonen, Hillary Clinton and others,” Boyd said in the news release. “Our office takes seriously the obligation to protect the rights of citizens to vote for the candidate of their choice, and to do so without undue influence from special interest groups.

            Democrat Kate Cloonen and union thugs are accused of trying to buy votes.
            Democrat Kate Cloonen and union thugs are accused of trying to buy votes.
            “The investigation will also focus on the authenticity of vote by mail requests. Several applications have been filed with the election authority that appear to be fraudulently executed.”

            More amazingly, the voters who were bribed were actually being transported by van to the county clerk’s office to vote early.

            Nobody has caught the perpetrators yet, but it’s pretty clear who is responsible:

            Union thugs and their Democratic masters are working for Democrat Kate Cloonen in a highly contested race against local Republican attorney Lindsay Parkhurst.

            “These reports of voter fraud in Kankakee are incredibly disturbing,” Pankhurst said. “Fair and honest elections are the bedrock of our democracy. It is truly deplorable when people try to corrupt our system in this manner.”

          • Those or called a absentee ballot or serving military. Nitwit

          • Why are you so worried about a recount? No need to lie yet

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

          • Three things? 1. Jobs, 2. Jobs, 3. Jobs. That’s what the Dems couldn’t do and what Trump might do. We are fed up with all career politicians because all career politicians are interested in is their own re-election, both DEMs and REPs.

          • BC, If you believe those figures then you are more naive than I thought. Try looking for a job that pays enough to live on while working 40 hours a week. They are disappearing left and right. Try looking at the type of jobs and how many of us are working three jobs just to pay our bills – and I’m a college graduate.

          • Capitalism has STOLEN your future
            Trickle down theory never has been proven to work.
            Okay once again I have to straighten out Republicans Fox News IS propaganda.
            YOUR Vote , cost you? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e351a235c238b9bcc56d8f79f185120123475d0fe193ae8ff821b535864d9c0f.jpg Republicans are conspiring TO
            cut your Social Security and Medicare and your civil rights.
            You probably won’t need those things anyway.

          • A Huge Number of the Electoral College Delegates Are Asking for a CIA BRIEFING

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            WHY are they asking??? Because of all this misinformation Obama and other Demoncraps are spewing!!! This Obama controlled CIA is very corrupt and I trust no bogus report that they are NOW drafting!!! Where was Obama and the Demoncraps
            when all of this hacking was going on before this election cycle???

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            I for one demand evidence on this garbage passing as news!!!
            I think critically and do not accept what the MSM is cooking up!!!

          • Actually
            I’m the same as I WAS always probably somewhere in the middle. But
            the stink coming from the extreme undated right wing Republicans seem
            to smell more like fascism than middle-of-the-road Republicans. I can
            understand the alt- right have finally found their champion Donald
            Trump, and if you’re one of those I can understand.

            White
            Nationalist like Steve Bannon want to rid anyone in this country,
            that’s not his version of European white people. If your Ku Klux Klan
            your vision of the United States is clear. But if you’re one of the
            lost supporters that I believe that have been duped by the Republican
            Party, I can only hope that you have enough sense to figure it out.

            I
            will continue to fight against fascism, whether you like it or not.

          • BC, maybe you have forgotten Louisiana – that State has parishes, no counties, but their votes still count in any Federal Election. The basic fact is there would be no United States today if our founding fathers hadn’t come up with the Electoral College process. Today’s USA wouldn’t last long if they did away with the EC. Many of us would not abide some liberals in New York and California deciding every election. Without multiple States having a say there would be no USA. Trump won – live with it! The Russian’s have been trying to influence our elections since the end of WWII. The point is Hillary made their job a lot easier because she used an unsecured server to do classified business, both here in the USA and while overseas.

          • A Huge Number of the Electoral College Delegates Are Asking for a CIA Reading on the Russian Hiking Connection with the Donald Trump Campaign. I Hope They Will. Group of US Citizens That Is Engaging a Foreign Power to Influence Our Election Would Be Considered a Treason https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/124c4caa93ac33dd91d72c511a4e19ec35f37b30ea4636f7f61e8e96ac44fe1d.jpg ous Offense. Of Course I Know That If You Were a White Nationalist Fascist Definitely Be against Patriotic Americans.

          • BC, That is the book for you alright. There is no connection. The Russians have been hacking our government for years , about 70 years. You are the stickler for evidence – so where is it? Where is your evidence that anyone in the Trump campaign is engaging with any Foreign power. And of course all the data released on Hillary was false (NOT!) When it comes to security and treason, Hillary would be at the front of that line – for stupidity too. Of course you will ignore that fact. D___ A_S___!

          • If
            this is not true, then why is Donald Trump Spewing so many
            spinning
            bricks about the news, everything else is sounds more
            like a
            cover-up?
            This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue,
            Everyone Should Be Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively
            Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling
            about the Corporation of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d33b19e41380cbf8ab81f93c66f5ada8e6ae73d200513423adb5b1d3215ffcc.jpg

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            It is so interesting to note, all of these allegations are coming from anonymous sources.
            None of these “highest officials” are coming forward and being accountable for these
            “stories”. What “proof” do they cite? Why is it all so hush-hush? Certainly Hitlary’s emails
            were “top secret” and anyone and everyone could get their hands on them!!! No one ever held her accountable! NOW, we are supposed to blame PUTIN? Really? How convenient for Clinton to have a scapegoat! Next they will be blaming El NINO , global warming, sun spots, magnetic fields, UFOs, aliens, the emails are stored in area 51, Anthony Weiner/Huma Abedin, anyone but LIL HILLY!!! BRING OUT YOUR PROOF!!!! Stop putting
            out all of this garbage as gospel. They are behind closed doors trying to get their false documents together. Just another witch-hunt to discredit our new President by this administration.

          • snopes is a libturd soros org.

          • HAHAHAHA As you comply NO proof in your repugtRUMP statement just
            propaganda noise. I suppose you can 100% perfect except Jesus Christ, Snopes is pretty close to being correct 100% of the time is just about
            any of the fact checking services.

          • If you were ever a republican as I doubt you were obviously one of those liberal republicans(RINOs ) we are gladly see go. They and you are part of the swamp Trump is talking about . Your side is on the wrong side of history. Bye !!! And quit whining . Your supposed to be an adult.go get your therapy dog and your hot cocoa, find yourself a coloring book and snuggle up in your safe space .

          • Actually I’m the same as I WAS always probably somewhere in the middle. But the stink coming from the extreme undated right wing Republicans seem to smell more like fascism than middle-of-the-road Republicans. I can understand the alt- right have finally found their champion Donald Trump, and if you’re one of those I can understand.
            White Nationalist like Steve Bannon want to rid anyone in this country, that’s not his version of European white people. If your Ku Klux Klan your vision of the United States is clear. But if you’re one of the lost supporters that I believe that have been duped by the Republican Party, I can only hope that you have enough sense to figure it out.
            I will continue to fight against fascism, whether you like it or not. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/baa076b9de53746699fdf60cbbbe43636e6dfed9741327efefec43d72c41c76e.jpg

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            It must be nice to know what a person you don’t even know is thinking.
            Maybe his genes are superior, how would anyone but a scientist know that?
            Coming from the open-minded, all-inclusive liberals who judge people on their merits, how come you are judging someone on his appearance.
            BTW, have you taken a good long look at Michael Moore? LOL He seems to be the liberal’s version of GQ’s man of the hour. lol

          • .That https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1058b457c887bda24947168e1625d9b3b0f9b37a2cab26fd9b8780d02e0ac2a.png sounds like something from Steve Bannon’s White Nationalist playbook?
            Fake Republican news, give your brain a chance

          • Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

            It is such a large vast left- wing conspiracy!!! It may take him longer to drain it because he is not even in office yet. Why are the leftist lying about this so-called Russian Connection?
            If Putin himself needed to hack the election, why did Oldbummer on Oct 8, say for Trump to stop whining because “No one can hack our elections process”. So, NOW he wants to “investigate”? Either put up PROOF of Russia helping Trump or STFU!!!! Obama needs to go behind closed doors with the Senate? He said nothing when the Pentagon, IRS, and other government agencies were hacked!!! Why Now , the Clinton lost is he SO concerned about hacking of any type???

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts. OMG

          • The FBI says otherwise.

          • You are full of crap. Only treasonous people are the left. Like I said it is all crap made up by this administration and a corrupt CIA. The truth will come out. The left is not about truth. They are about lies. Desperation makes for evil. How is it that none of the vote had anything to do with the Russians . Were the machines hacked? No The electorate voted for Trump. I have never seen any president elect go through all this BS. What happened to Hillarys and Obamas smooth transition. You people are so treacherous and evil. Don’t know how you live with yourselves. Go back under the rock you came from.

          • Congratulations, your sounding more creepier and White Nationalist Fascist Nazi all the time. Congratulations I believe it. LOL https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/838b87af44a5ab8d70ea3e87a5019d02bb8dc511a4e9667552a2af142b2d64f5.jpg

          • LMAO!! Good one.

          • Carlos is a paid troll for George Soros.

          • Carlos, you are a liar

          • CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016
            Elections. If this is not true, then why is Donald Trump Spewing so many
            spinning bricks about the news, everything else is sounds more
            like a https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c04af762bf0b6a09b160d7503b138cbd17185d5097d0abbb0dcea493d2ab909.jpg cover-up?

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    • Who was the wise man that said a democracy form of government is nothing more than “mob rule”?

      • JKH, we are NOT a democracy, thank God, we are a Republic and once fought for to found America can be fought again to stay a Republic. Whiners are stupid and brainless.

      • Thomas Jefferson, “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of
        the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

      • I believe it was Alexander Frazier. Apparently it was also Thomas Jefferson.

      • Thomas Jefferson said that. When 51% of the people can rule over the other 49%. It’s why we are a Republic . It’s why we have the electoral college. Democracy was never their intention. The left always refers to us as a democracy and many Repubs also. It’s what our kids are taught in school. The democracy in America . Really? I was taught the difference between the two .Of course the kids are also taught that America is evil.

    • Genius, pure genius, great stat’s! And an excellent compilation, and thank’s for the truth, the lame stream medial won’t tell us these numbers.

      • That’s because their total lies you’ve been had.

        • Twenty states is not the plurality of this nation. Which by the way is all Hildabeast Hitlery won! Trump on the other hand had in deed won the plurality for he won 30 of the fifty states & Trump nearly won another five. For the margin of his loss in those five states was incredibly close 306 Electoral college votes is indeed a land slide.

          • I’m Not Questioning That He Won, the Republican Gerrymandered, Voter Suppressed, Rigged Electoral College. LOL
            there are no damn landside victory and no voter mandate when tRUMP is losing the popular vote, buy 2.7 million votes approximately 2%. Get over yourself, the final result
            is that you have lost terribly personal of this White Nationalist
            sympathizer.https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84bce3db3c8fdebb9a6f3ff86f46bcace05dbfc9f165064ae327c821d7fcdf15.png

          • Never mind that DEMS were PROVEN to have rigged the primaries, at the very least!! Never mind Obama went on tv and, when asked, flat out said that if illegals voted, they would not be prosecuted. This is on video. LOL indeed
            And when those 2 mill come primarily from one state, CA, not so meaningful. Hence the need for an EC.

          • Wrong you can’t prove that fake stories. Rollout that link you talk about. Nitwit HAHAHA
            I give you the guy that invented your propaganda tactics. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/030c1974574320fbd550c3c1e0845cf29282ab6b3c4f8dabb487c6a0c12a1fa9.jpg Congratulations you voted your freedom away.

          • Who controls the media? Even the DEMS know they control the media, you fool.
            The transcripts and video and emails… all the times Hillary lied to us and the FBI and congress, etc are all out there easily accessible. I won’t do the work for you.
            Most people have already seen these, that’s why so many don’t trust her. If you haven’t, that’s your own fault.
            Your “proof” is questionable articles written by questionable sources, and meaningless editorial cartoons and such. Newsflash. These aren’t sources, do nothing for your credibility, and make you seem juvenile.

          • Wise up! Most media is controlled by Republican corporate billionaires or white Nationalists. Where have you been living under a rock?
            I guess Russians don’t get current uncensored news.LOL https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c04af762bf0b6a09b160d7503b138cbd17185d5097d0abbb0dcea493d2ab909.jpg

          • Hilarious.
            George Soros.
            Comey LET HER OFF for doing more than others who’ve done less yet been prosecuted, fined and stripped of security clearance. Transcripts, video and emails proved her lies.
            You have truly drunk the koolaid. Even most Dem supporters have now realized the trump putin connection is fiction.
            Again, little pictures? They don’t equal fact.

          • Now that’s even more George Soros can even get to the shoestrings of the Koch brothers and their tax-exempt political slush funds citizens United.

            Give your Pea brain a chance, in the Republican generated 10 investigations into Hillary, she had a outstanding parking ticket they would’ve orchestrated a Lynch mob. And by Republican own admission they found nothing. But they did waste $10 million of your taxpayer money. I’m just going to say everything else you said is a outright lie.

            Time will tell about the Russian nationalist dictator Vladimir Putin, remember when Donald J Trump/Republicans sellout America https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/57f1c9d9754a42eb27a3c959863b06ab72592b1409671106f1607a1a8986bede.jpg to Vladimir Putin, all you guys saying I told you so, not laughing and giving you the bird.

          • Soros is at least equal to the loch bros. in his influence and string-pulling. check it out.
            Yes. As I said earlier, Comey let her off despite what she did. You cant have it both ways. Can’t say he’s with trump then admit that he did in fact not press charges on Hillary when he is on record as saying she committed several violations for which anyone else would be prosecuted. He said that, so if he’s in anyone’s pocket, it’s hers.
            No, they are not lies. Public information from the government.
            I guess your little pictures help you to feel good about your rhetoric, though they are unsubstantiated propaganda. I could post my own but they would be as meaningless as yours.
            Notice I finished this entire post without calling you names or insulting your intelligence. That’s how mature people confident in their argument choose to debate. I’m all for intelligent debate and believe we can both learn from it, but you’ve name-called like a child one too many times (creepy, nitwit, pea brain to name a few). Have a good life. Blocked.

          • But the money be spends is not anywhere close to the Koch brothers and their nonprofit groups. Go on check it out

            I’m glad you wise up, you seem to be getting smarter every time one of the little pictures show up. Unlike most Republican of I tried to hold personal insults down to third grade level. To be audience appropriate. LOL

            Why do you have a Russian IP address?

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict .
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

    • 2 great quotes apply here:

      H L Mencken, “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

      Thomas Jefferson, “When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.”

    • Great post florida3guy! Yes, the Electoral College sometimes works as designed by the Founding Fathers, and sometimes it doesn’t. The big-population centers weren’t able to impose their wills on the small-population areas in 2000 and again in 2016 (fortunately) but were in 2008 and 2012 (to the detriment of the whole country). So, it’s not a perfect system, but is better than a pure popular-vote-only system. Sounds like they need something like the Electoral College on a state level in New York. We definitely need something like that in Virginia.

    • Incredible, where you get your facts out of box of crackerjack. Or forgot you watch Fox News.LOL

    • florida3guy, thanks so much for your clear explanation.

    • Amen and that is exactly why the founders knew better than the left wing cheats of today . I said the same. Her advantage all came from 2 states. More than half those were illegal. My estimation is Trump in a fair election won the popular vote also. I appreciate your breakdown of the counties and square miles. Puts it all in perspective . Actually it is mind blowing .

      • You shut up or prove your facts? Everything you said originated with fake news. If you can prove prove it, you call me a Republican again. That’s how sure I am https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8876c9dd545fd7e5b22594e3e30f01248591fe298529f8c90474e1e7bbbe709a.jpg

        • Wa wa wa!!! Grow up. You’re supposed to be an adult.

          • Surprise you got nothing

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!
            CIA
            Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on
            Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the
            Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior
            Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security
            Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a
            Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America
            Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress the Information
            from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant
            of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest
            This
            Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned
            about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our
            Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American
            Citizens in This Treasonous Acts. OMG

        • Did you check out all the voter fraud your party’s been involved in. You tried to steal the election for the third time in a row but it’s not working. After Trump is president we will get Jeff Sessions on this so we can see just how many votes your side stole. It’s millions I am sure .

          On Friday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) reported that 2015 U.S. real GDP (RGDP) growth was 2.38%. No matter what revisions are subsequently made, 2015 will have been the tenth year in a row that RGDP growth came in at under 3.0%. The longest previous such run in U.S. economic history was only four years, and the last time that this happened was during the Great Depression (1930 – 1933).
          Even worse, and this should be the defining issue of the 2016 elections, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is now forecasting that America will never see 3.0% economic growth again. This should be drawing howls of protest, at least from Republicans, but there has been little reaction thus far.

          From 1790 to 2000, U.S. RGDP growth averaged 3.79%. America needs at least 3.0% economic growth-the nation cannot defend itself and pay its bills without it. However, America’s elites have largely given up on growth, and are now distracting themselves with academic musings about “secular stagnation.”
          Hillary Clinton is trying to position herself as the logical heir to President Obama’s “legacy.” Hillary is asking the voters to give her the job of protecting and continue Obama’s “achievements.” In a way, what Hillary is trying to do is odd, but in another way, it isn’t. Here’s why.
          The rate of real economic growth is the single greatest determinate of both America’s strength as a nation and the wellbeing of the American people. And, Obama’s record in this area has been truly dismal.
          Right now, the nation is probably already in a recession. The BEA’s first estimate of 4Q2015 RGDP growth was only 0.69%, and there is mounting evidence that this will later be revised downward. However, making the wildly optimistic assumption that 2016 RGDP growth will come in at the CBO’s current forecast (2.67%), Obama will be the only U.S. president in history that did not deliver a single year of 3.0%+ economic growth.
          Again, assuming 2.67% RGDP growth for 2016, Obama will leave office having produced an average of 1.55% growth. This would place his presidency fourth from the bottom of the list of 39*, above only those of Herbert Hoover (-5.65%), Andrew Johnson (-0.70%) and Theodore Roosevelt (1.41%)
          No matter what happens in 2016, Obama’s record on economic growth will be considerably worse than that of the much-maligned George W. Bush. Bush 43 delivered RGDP growth averaging 2.10%, with two years (2004 and 2005) above 3.0%.
          By the way, the economic growth superstar among all U.S. presidents was none other than Rutherford B. Hayes (1877 – 1880). Hayes delivered an average of 7.71% RGDP growth, and none of his four years in office was below 3.0%.
          So, it seems a bit surprising that Hillary Clinton would be running for president by promising the nation the equivalent of a third Obama term. However, in another way, it isn’t.
          Hillary is a progressive. Progressives believe in “progressively” expanding the size, power, and reach of government. And, Obama has done more to further the progressive cause of anyone since FDR. So, yes, in that sense, it is completely authentic for Hillary to be promising “more Obama” if she wins.
          With respect to the economy, both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are offering what amounts to “hospice care.” Their “tax the rich” redistributionist proposals are not intended to restore strong growth. They are designed to make the middle class more comfortable in the face of economic stagnation. “Hey, you may be unemployed after you graduate, but at least college was free!”
          The only way that the voters will elect a Democrat as president in the fall is if the Republicans nominate someone that seems crazy and dangerous, or if they run on budget-cutting “austerity.” If confronted with a choice between hospice care and “surgery without anesthesia,” the electorate will opt for the hospice care, and try to survive until the next election.
          As the implications of the CBO’s latest projections sink in, Republican candidates will hear the political Sirens singing songs about the need to “cut entitlements.” If Republicans offer a credible program to restore rapid economic growth, they will win. If they offer austerity, they will lose-and, they will deserve to lose.
          *There have been 44 presidents, but only 39 presidencies. Some terms were shared by two people, as a result of death or resignation.

          • Breaking News: You Won’t Hear on Fox News. THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS!

            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016 Elections on Donald Trump’s Behalf. CIA Confirmed the Wikileaks Received the Information from Russian Government,.and Members of Donald Trump
            Senior Campaign Staff Implicated. More Troubling CIA along with Other Security Agencies Brief Top Congressional Representatives (Gang of 12) in a Secret Meeting in September 2016, All Democrats Proposed That America Should Know, Most Not All Republicans Wanted to Suppress
            the Information from the Public. Notably Mitch McConnell Was Adamant of Not Releasing the Information. Mr. McConnell Is Now Received the Top Presidential Staff Job, Definite Conflict of Interest

            This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.

          • Russia and China have stolen secrets for years. Just because it may have affected Hillary. Trump run fair and square. Hilary was corrupt and wiki leaks dumped it. 306 electoral votes is an ass kicking . Just another thing for Dems to use as excuse whythey lost. Your canidate was a pathetic hag. With no policy to help the middle class. Get your hot cocoa and coloring books and find a safe place .

          • So you should clean up your own party. But I am open-minded enough
            that if you have any credible reason to support the current
            Republican agenda I certainly would listen unlike the others.

          • Make America Great again!!!!! Only reason I need . What was it Hillary was saying? Stronger together? Really??? How lame just like her canidancy. No more tyranny by the Dems . King Obama and Queen Michelle are gone and the wicked witch is dead.. can’t be any better reason to vote for Trump. Hello law and order goodbye lawlessness . Hello wall and secure borders goodbye open borders. Hello real full time jobs goodbye part time jobs. Hello 2nd ammendment goodbye gun control. Hello freedom of speech Goodbye political correctness . Hello school choice, goodbye public school unions. Hello freedom of religion. Goodbye Christian persecution. Enough reasons for you?? Hello freedom goodbye tyrany. America will be great again!!!!! Don’t let the train pass you by. Jump on!! All aboard!!

          • THIS IS NEWS!
            CIA Confirms Russia Deliberately Interfered and the 2016
            Elections.
            If this is not true, then why is Donald Trump Spewing so many spinning
            bricks about the news, everything else is sounds more like a
            cover-up? This Is Not a Democratic or Republican Issue, Everyone Should Be
            Concerned about a Foreign Government Actively Trying to Swing the
            Outcome of Our Elections, and Is Most Troubling about the Corporation
            of American Citizens in This Treasonous Acts.
            Grow up and get over
            it, I feel the same way about Trump as you did when Obama was elected. I
            have no interest in changing your mind, I just feel that you will
            understand in the next few years hopefully. You voted for, Donald J
            Trump AND what he does from now is own YOU.

          • Comey and Brennan are political hacks. Both committed to Onama. Comey covered for Hillary and Brennan trying to save his ass from investigation. He sucks up with Onama. CIA has always been politicized. No credibility.

            FBI Director James Comey’s abject submission to the powers that be likely destroyed the final pillar in traditional America, where we were Americans first, and political partisans second.

            Sadly, the FBI’s political whitewash of Hillary Clinton’s apparent crimes illustrates the bureau’s descent into the same politicization of the CIA under John Brennan and Obama.

            From its first days, the Obama administration has poisoned the well of American interests in favor of its own political interests. Since Obama unveiled John Brennan as his preferred intelligence expert during the 2008 presidential campaign, non-partisan American interests have been sacrificed for the interests of Politically Correct Progressivism.

            Brennan, the first director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) from 2004-2005, was rewarded with the counterterrorism czar throne, Homeland Security Advisor, after being rejected as the Director of the CIA in early 2009. After his appointment, Brennan came to effectively rule the intelligence community from his office in the White House.

            The 2009 underwear bomber case provided clear evidence of Brennan’s absolute power over the wider intelligence community, as well as how he politicized it. A Nigerian terrorist, already in Brennan’s databases, boarded a plane bound for Chicago. His underwear was full of bomb material. In U.S. airspace the terrorist attempted to light the bomb. The plot was only foiled because the Nigerian had worn the shorts for two weeks.

            Even though Brennan had sold the “connect-the-dots” analytical software to the center after he left government employment in 2005, Obama appointed Brennan-the-czar to lead the investigation into the reasons that NCTC failed to connect the dots in the underwear case. In short, after Brennan conducted an investigation into Brennan’s agency’s use of Brennan’s company’s counterterrorism software, Brennan announced that he would take care of the issues. Pretty sweet work, if you can get it!

            As Obama and Brennan’s vision for iron-fisted rule of the intelligence community was further developed, the czar cooperated with a political witch-hunt, led by the attorney general, to punish CIA officers for their roles in harsh interrogation carried out during the Bush administration. Even though Brennan was the Deputy Director of the CIA during the Bush administration’s use of harsh interrogation, he sat next to Obama as the administration pushed for prosecutions of CIA officers.

            Later, when Congress conducted an investigation into the internal machinations at the CIA, the CIA dipped into the congressional investigators’ computers.

            Brennan, quietly, and behind the scenes, appeared to be the evil genius behind Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s unprecedented meddling, including the destruction of America’s stable partner in counterterrorism in North Africa, Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi.

            Comey’s brazen and public refusal to do his Constitutional duty and Brennan’s quiet politicization of the intelligence community are unprecedented in modern history.

            The result has been an eight-year purge of the intelligence community — with any political dissenters either banished or silenced. A reign of quiet terror now blankets the IC. Dissent means losing jobs, retirements, and perks. Go-along-to-get-along is now standard operating practice.

            Kent Clizbe is a former CIA ops officer, and expert in counter-terrorism and Islamic extremism, credibility assessment, and fraud detection. He is an historian of anti-American espionage operations, and author of “Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Ops Created Political Correctness.” His website is KentClizbe.com. Read more of his reports — Go Here Now.

          • While You Seem to Be All over the Place? Fact Are Clear. James Comey and the FBI Lied to the Whole Nation about Hillary Clinton. Don’t Bother to Tell Me Another Fake Story.
            FBI Officials Including Comey, Were Well Aware of Russia’s Hacking Because He Was in the September Meeting with the Congressional Leaders. James Comey Made the Deliberate Decision to Interfere and to the Election on the Behalf of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin Russian Interests. Of Course Republicans Are Okay the FBI Making Russia Great Again. Trump Will Probably Hold the Next Victory at Rally in Moscow Russia.

          • While
            You Seem to Be All over the Place? Fact Are Clear. James Comey and
            the FBI Lied to the Whole Nation about Hillary Clinton. Don’t Bother
            to Tell Me Another Fake Story.

            FBI
            Officials Including Comey, Were Well Aware of Russia’s Hacking
            Because He Was in the September Meeting with the Congressional
            Leaders. James Comey Made the Deliberate Decision to Interfere and to
            the Election on the Behalf of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin
            Russian Interests. Of Course Republicans Are Okay the FBI Making
            Russia Great Again. Trump Will Probably Hold the Next Victory at
            Rally in Moscow Russia.

          • Not really. I am right on the mark. Brennan is a Muslim lover and both he and Comey are pawns of Obama(who happens to be a Muslim also) So quit spreading your fake news (lies). I said the only fake news tellers are all the left wing anti-America. Stations. Thank God that the nation woke up before Hillary had a chance to finish the job of destruction which Obama. Obama had a reason to appoint Comey and Brennan. They are his stooges to do his evil bidding. They are Part of the swamp. Oh yeah do you think that Obama might have Comey investigate the massive voter fraud going on?? It is extremely extensive and I don’t think Russia had anything to do with it. Trump is right. He won the popular vote also. All we have had from this administration is non transparency , lies and corruption . Disgrace . Go back to your fake news now . You can get caught up on The Clinton News Network.

          • Really, I bet you really believed that pizzagate was true ?

            BRIEFING
            A https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32afc71dbdcb1b63347f06f55ca84141a72f3529ca83629b769bf07bd88b2a4b.jpg Huge Number of the Electoral College Delegates Are Asking for a CIA
            BRIEFING on the Russian Hacking Connection with the Donald Trump
            Campaign. I Hope They Will. Group of US Citizens That Is Engaging a
            Foreign Power to Influence Our Election Would Be Considered a
            Treasonous Offense. Of Course I Know That If You Were a White
            Nationalist Fascist Definitely Be against Patriotic Americans.

          • Let them. Fact is no voting machines were hacked . Had no affect on election. Hillary needs to look in the mirror . She didn’t give a crap about working middle class families and she lost many democrats. She is a power hungry bitch and a washed up establishment hack . How come Onama not investigating massive voter fraud in Detroit and Milwaukee ? Why did Obama do zilch in 8 years over cyber security esiecuslkt when the FBI and White House were hacked by China? Obama is making himself look like an ass because he is part of the problem not the solution. The CIA and FBI do not agree and FBI has found no indication that the citing was hacked . How many recounts do you people need? Brennan is a political lap dog of Onama. The CIA is not credible and they have no clue. We are not talking about hacks. It is about leaks from inside. You see the DNC and Hillary are but very bright. All those Podesta and DNC emails were there fir the taking . Here is the truth . If Hillary and the DNC weren’t so corrupt they wouldn’t have to be concerned would they? What a bunch of corrupt pieces of human crap. Rigging the primary. Having questions in advance of town meetings and debates sent to her ahead of time. You people have no right talking about free elections . Your party has never won a fair election . So cry all you want but Trump needed no help to defeat the wicked witch. Trump is your President. We had to suffer through 8 years of the worst president in history . Corrupt as all Dems are.

          • Seth Rich. Remember him. Didn’t he leak like 30,000 emails on the DNC to Wiki leaks? How did he die? A robbery which left his wallet and valuables behind ? Really?? Me thinks it sounds like another Clinton body bag. Happened right after Wiki leaks came out with them. Just coincidence I’m sure . That was no robbery . How do 2 people like the Clintons have so many close acquaintances come up dead right after something on the Clintons or to the Clintons happens . How many people do you know who have come up dead?? I have the count at 38 now counting Benghazi.

          • I thought you were smarter than that, your post is really old made UP news, I’m pretty sure I know why you voted for The Donald, I really don’t think it because the fake news that you are repeating. Once again now once again.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f0595c10d2f5df2a070f314f6715fa8b9c89feccf8beb640e39ea6091d3c147.jpg

          • I thought you were smarter than that, your post is really old made news, I’m pretty sure I know why you voted for the Donald, I really don’t think it because the fake news that you are repeating. Once again now once again.

          • From the Washington Compost. Fake news. Obama needs to check illegal voting fraud. Will that happen? Not.you lost. Quit whining. The only wins guilty of trying to fix an election was the democrats.

          • Time will tell about Russian Nationalist dictator Vladimir Putin,
            remember when Donald J Trump/Republicans sellout America ideals to
            Vladimir Putin, TO all you guys I WILL BE saying “I told you so”,

          • Time will tell. When we get millions more people working, ISIS destroyed, Putin, China and Iran no longer puppets of the USA(remember the red line). This time there will be consequences . You notice Putin laughed in Barracks face . He had absulutely no respect for him. Obama set the Middle East on fire allowed ISIS to grow in 35 countries and brought ISIS to America . What a traitor . Now Trump will have to undo all his mess. So when he does and he will, I’ll tell you I told you so. And besides you are part of the problem not the solution. You have as much credibility as the fake alphabet news stations the New York Slimes and the Washington Compost. You know all those in the tank for Hillary. Hillary reminds me of Don Ameche in Trading places where they lost all their fortune and he yelled turn those machines back on. I’m a Duke turn those machines back on!! Hillary cannot let it go . She still believes she lost because of fake news. The Russians , people were stupid, racism sexism the white supremacists . You name it. Hillary cannot look in the mirror . That will tell her who lost that election. Turn those machines back on!!! Lol

    • This Is One of the Most Fake Convoluted Conservative Republican Lies on
      the Internet. Probably Generated by Breitbart News.com Which Is
      Generated 90% of the Fake Political Propaganda in the Last Few Years.
      You’ve Been Had, Shame on You for Passing Fake News. IF YOU,Had Any
      Patriotism You Immediately Remove This Republican Propaganda.

    • The article offered no citations or links to support its claims. However, according to the U.S. Geological Survey, there are 3,141 counties in the United States. A slightly different version of the claim appeared to originate with Breitbart on 15 November 2016:

      http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

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    • https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d09282ef0721e31dd306dda5ad986bda8968bdc76db5121dc0c04ce5d4409dc.jpg

      http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

      The
      article offered no citations or links to support its claims. However,
      according to the U.S. Geological Survey, there are 3,141 counties in
      the United States. A slightly different version of the claim appeared
      to originate with Breitbart on 15 November 2016:

      http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

      So

      This
      Is One of the Most Fake Convoluted Conservative Republican Lies on
      the Internet. Probably Generated by Breitbart News.com Which Is
      Generated 90% of the Fake Political Propaganda in the Last Few Years.
      You’ve Been Had, Shame on You for Passing Fake News. IF YOU Had Any
      Patriotism You Immediately Remove This Republican Propaganda. Give
      your brain a chance and triple fact checked before you open your
      mouth and embarrass yourself.

  6. michael schimanski

    I really hope President Donald Trump and congress , in the future , will pass voter registration laws to ensure that only LEGAL American’s vote in our elections and stiffer penalities for those of wish to break those laws .

    • And it will eliminate the votes from dead people!

    • What we need are are constitutional federal judges. Obama appointed thousands who have ruled against ID laws and verification. All left wing justices are nothing but political hacks. They legislate from the bench . There idea of law is no law. This is why an election is most important. It changes the landscape of the judiciary. We need originalistd on the bench . You can see the results when we do not.,

    • What we really need to do is pass e-verify. If you knowingly hire an illegal you are treated as the major drug dealer you are, 20 years federal prison minimum. and all property forfeit to the taxpayers.

    • Voter Registration PERIOD!

  7. There is a simple solution. No need to abolish the Electoral College altogether. Just change the way it is elected. Why “winner takes all”? Why, if one candidate wins a very thin majority in a state (even a few hundreds, like Bush in Florida in 2000) this candidate gets all of the state’s Electors and everybody who voted for the other candidate be discounted? Why should Republicans who live in New York be effectively disenfranchised? Why should Democrats who live in Texas be disenfranchised? Keep the Electoral College but let the electors be apportioned proportionally to what the voters voted for in that state. Do that, and it would be virtually impossible for a candidate to win the popular vote and lose the Electoral College.

    • States rights. Each state decides how to divvy the college votes.

      This is how citizens can have power. It’s easier to effect change on a state level than national.

    • The individual states vote for the President and the individual voters of each state determine which candidate their state will support. You are suggesting that a state support two or more candidates. Applying the same logic to the individual voter, the voter would be able to fill in opposite the candidates’ names on the ballot what percentage of his vote he wanted each to have. Not that it couldn’t be done, just that it would defeat the purpose of the Electoral College system. You could suggest legislators in your state propose such a bill for your state – remember, the states are sovereign entities and voting is by state, so this change would have to be done state by state.

    • Thank the LORD for President Trump………get the illegal muslim racist bigoted liar out of the WH……Hopefully we never hear the name Clinton again……..we might see Bill’s poster in the Post Office for rape……

    • If the electoral votes were apportioned according to the popular vote in each state, why not just go by the popular vote?

      The electoral vote system is intended to prevent a few densely populated states from dominating all of the other states.

      I am glad the people of densely populated NY did not elect hilLIARy to shut down cattle ranching in less densely populated WY because the useful idiots in NY were duped into believe cow farts caused global warming.

      • Why should a large part of the citizens of the United States not be represented in the election of their President? If you are a Republican in New York or California, or a Democrat in Texas and most of the South and Middle West, you might as well stay home on elections day as far as your influence on who will be the next President of the US goes, You know in advance that your vote does not count. Is that healthy? Is that democracy? Are not all US citizens supposed to have a vote?

        • Why should the fate of the Presidency be decided by the people who live in a few “battleground states”? Why should the inhabitants of Florida have so much of a say in who will be the next President than the inhabitants of most other States? By the way, Florida is also a very thickly populated state, with big cities. The College of Electors does not mean that small states are better represented than big states. The College of Electors just means that states where the two big parties have nearly the same number of supporters count much much more than states in which there is a clear majority for one of the parties. Why is that right or justified?

          • If Al Gore had won New Hampshire in 2000, he would have been President. It would have been the four electors of New Hampshire would have given him the victory over George W. Bush, not all these nasty Californians. Why should it be like that? Don’t you see that this is a very screwed-up, arbitrary system?

          • Had Gore won NH he would have been President. But Gore did NOT win NH’s four electoral votes. Bush won NH’s electoral votes. It could have swung either way.

            Should we elect a President solely by the population of a few states or should we elect a President solely by the number of states won? Neither. Since a President’s decisions affect states as well as populations, we must take the number of states won as well as population into consideration. That’s why we have the electoral vote.

            The electoral vote system is a compromise between a purely popular vote that may be in opposition to the lifestyles of people living in sparsely populated states. (A rancher living remotely in MT has a much different lifestyle than someone living in Brooklyn, NY.)

            The electoral vote system is a compromise to keep the most populated states from dominating less populated states. As a compromise, it is not perfect but it is better than selecting a President pure by population density alone or solely by the number of states won without considering the population of those states.

            Had hilLIARy won TX’s 38 electoral votes, she would have won the electoral vote with only 21 states to Trumps’ 29 states. Then you’d hear people complaining it wasn’t fair because Trump won more states than hilLIARy but still lost the election.

          • Without the electoral college the votes of people living in AK, WY, MT, SD, ND, and VT (each of which only have 3 electoral votes) and a few other states would NOT count.

            If hilLIARy had won more states (Florida for example with its 29 electoral votes) plus one other state with as few as eight electoral votes she would have won.

            In that case, hilLIARy would have won 22 states to Trumps 28. Then hilLIARy would have won the electoral vote.

        • They are represented; they are not allowed to dominate.

          The electoral vote is a compromise. It is a compromise between winning the only 12 most populated state and winning the highest number of states.

          Because the electoral vote is a compromise it can NOT please everyone at the same time. But it does keep as few as 12 states from dominating the other 38.

          Trump won 30 states while clinton won only 20 states.

          Without the electoral vote, farmers in IA would be grumbling that drug dealers in CA stole their votes.

          • I don’t see that you respond to my argument. When you are in a minority in your state, your vote just does not count. You have no vote. If there is a state with 60% Democrats and 40% Republicans, the Republicans might as well stay home on elections day. Their vote does not count. They have no say whatsoever in electing the Chief Executive of their country. Is that democratic? Is that fair?

          • In that case, Republican votes within a particular democRAT-dominated state really would not count toward the electoral vote unless the democRATs in that state are too lazy or too overconfident to go vote or some of the democRATs vote for the Republican candidate. Republicans definitely would NOT win a particular state if they’d stayed home on election day.

            How many states was hilLIARy predicted to win that Trump won instead? A lot of Republicans in NC, for example, are glad they voted for Trump despite democRATS gloating that hilLIARy would win NC by a mudslide.

          • It is healthy for citizens to vote and unhealthy for citizens to stay home. Democracy is based on active participation, Whatever the chances, you should not give up in advance, Sure, But why is it OK for the vote of very many people to be just thrown into the garbage and not counted? Why can’t the Electors of a state be apportioned according to how people in that state voted?

          • A state sends two Senators to Washington, D.C. Does it never happen that one is a Democrat and the other is a Republican? it happens. And among a state’s Representatives, it very often happens that some are Republicans and others are Democrats. So what is wrong with a state sending some Democrat Electors and some Republican Electors to take part in electing the new President? Where does that hurt States’ Rights?

          • That would still be a reflection of the popular vote which puts it back to only a few densely populated states electing the President EVERY TIME and dominating the sparsely populated states.

          • Each time voters’ candidates don’t win they feel like their vote was as good as thrown in the garbage whether it is for a popular vote or the electoral vote. (I voted for John McCain in 2008 and for Mitt Romney in 2012; in hindsight it looks like I should have thrown my votes in the garbage for all the good my votes did. That’s how elections are. One side has to win and another has to lose. My disappointment from 2008 and 2012 did NOT keep me from voting in 2016. I was aware that I could been as good as throwing my vote in the trash again when I voted in 2016.)

            If the electoral voters were apportioned to reflect the popular vote of each state, why bother with the electoral vote? Just go with the popular vote and the densely populated states would elect the President of the US EVERY TIME despite how voters in sparsely populated states feel.

            However, the electoral vote is in the U.S. Constitution to prevent densely populated states from dominating sparsely populated states in which people have drastically different lifestyles. Some candidates appeal to voters in densely populated states while other candidates appeal to voters in sparsely populated states. In 2016, Trump appealed to more voters living in sparsely populated states than hilLIARy appealed to, therefore Trump won more states and won the electoral vote (so far).

            Densely populated states can still win the election for their candidate if a few sparsely populated states elect the same candidate as the densely populated states did.

            Had hilLIARy appealed to more voters in MORE states than Trump appeal to, she would have won those states and the electoral votes of those states. Heck, had hiLIARy won TX, she have won the electoral election despite having won only 21 states to Trump winning 29 states. In that case, the votes of the Republicans in those 29 states would have been as good as thrown in the garbage.

  8. The Electoral College is in place to preserve one of the fundamental tenets of the Constitution: states rights. The states elect the President, the citizens vote for the electors to execute their wishes.
    That’s how a Republic works.

  9. Keep the Electoral College and issue Voter ID cards with the voter’s finger prints on it. That should stop Democrat Voter Fraud.

  10. The Liberals of this country don’t think past the end of their noses. Amendments, laws, and regulations have consequences and they are usually unintended in their scope. Witness the “Nuclear Option” invoked by the DemocRAT controlled Senate a few years ago to ram through legislation that would not otherwise get past the filibuster. Now the Senate is controlled by the GOP and the DemonRATs have no weapon to derail the legislation the GOP-controlled Senate will be shoving down the DemocRATs throats. There should NOT be any attempt to change the Electoral College.

  11. The Hag did not win the popular vote unless you count all the illegal aliens that voted in California thanks to the
    Governor. There are other states that have the same law.
    In California illegals were told that they were free to apply for drivers licenses, and at the same time register to vote.
    Wasn’t that convenient? Other states allowed illegals to vote too, so don’t try and sell us that the Hag won the popular vote!

    • and you didn’t even take into the 60,000 felons that Hillary’s ally Terry McAuliffe illegally gave the right to vote.

  12. Hilary won a pluraity not a majority. When you add jill the shill to hilary and Johnson plus mcmullen to trump it gets interesting. Trump has over 50% A MAJORITY by 5 million votes. He also picks up some more ellectroal votes thereby makeing it a complete beat down.

    • Correct. Trump is the only person who won a majority. He won the majority of the electoral which is the only majority that matters. Without it, there is no winner and Congress settles it. The founding fathers were much smarter then the modern day liberal gives them credit for.

  13. If the electrical college is eliminated a person only needs to run up big popular vote in a few states and everyone else’s vote a cross the country is worthless.

    • Right, the rest of the country, may as well stay home and have no say who would be President. Can’t happen, if they want it to be fair to our country.

      • That is why we Americans can never allow for our elections to go to a popular vote only.Any both other then a few left wing states would be worthless and then where would our country be.

  14. And if the Electoral College cheats on Trump’s electoral votes, it will become the most REVILED and we will do whatever is necessary to get rid of it. THIS electoral college is NOT what our Founders had in mind!

    • Our Founders never knew the corruption that has abounded from an illegal muslim being elected…..His grandmother said he was born in Kenya, the illegal muslim stated in 2002 that he was born in Kenya…..Our Founders would never believe that he would be elected by people that did not care if he was muslim or hated the USA & the white people……

      • True. However, the Founders DID know what it was like to live under a totalitarian monarchy and everything they gave us in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, with resources and intent found in the Federalist Papers, was to prevent the same tyranny from happening here and they warned us. We didn’t listen. Enter: the foreign usurper.

    • You dingy dim, our founding fathers created the Electoral College. Try again.

      • Hey bottom feeder! I know more about the Electoral College than you know about yourself, fool. Apparently “try again” is something YOU’VE heard all of your pathetic life.

        • Marlene, I know the truth hurts you dims but you can’t have it both ways by saying, ” THIS electoral college is NOT what our Founders had in mind” and simultaneously screaming do away with the EC. The Electoral College supports a national voter balance and that is exactly what our founding fathers had in mind when they created The Electoral College! Try Again!

          • Fcough, SYCOPHANT! You belong in a padded cell.

          • Hillary and you could share a padded cell. Say President Trump 100 times and it will raise your IQ. Go ahead and start now.

          • Nothing could raise your IQ from zero. Try standing on your feet instead of your hands so the words from your mouth don’t sound like crap – LOL!

          • Now you’ve done it. You’ve gone and hurt my feelings, crushed me even. Oh, the pain of it all. Marlene, just kidding with you. I realize that you are a mental dwarf and probably can’t rise above being a dimocrat. ha, ha, ha

    • Notice I said “THIS” electoral college only.

  15. I have never trusted a democrat in my life and I’m not about to change my mind. Mr. Reagan was a democrat and he switched parties to the republican party and he got my vote. Same is true about Mr Trump and he got my vote, Trump won and the democrats were shut out.

  16. The Electoral College was set up in the Constitution to be the process to elect a President. We all know what the Democrats think of the Constitution, so it makes sense for them to try to change it.

  17. The Electoral College just saved America!

  18. Agreed! …..Now if we can just find some legal way to keep the opposition from BRIBING or coercing the electors into changing their vote, things should work just fine!

  19. The electoral college saves us from a dictatorship of the majority. The vote count of the individual states is more significant and IMPORTANT than the vote from three or four population centers where there is a high concentration of those who live off of government largesse, a situation that eventually will collapse. You have to work in order to survive. The idea that you are entitled to survival is an ideology that is so corrupt and perverted as to manifest in reality as suicidal.

  20. We certainly don’t want the loonies in California and New York deciding what is best for everyone. (Whether they like it or not)

  21. Lets face the facts– The money and crooked politics always win! Politicians can (and will ) cause opponents to disappear- if needed! I assume The same people being paid to protest, are the same ones that cast lots of those illegal votes—( Sorry- no…) That couldn’t have been,- because most said they did not vote and didn’t even know what they were protesting– (but $75 a day is quite attractive)! … Guess It must have been all those that voted early and often– as they were hauled from precinct to precinct! (and the “ballot box stuffers”)! .. Hey – even NYT published Hillary had won day before election was over! n What do uyoi you suppose they knew??

  22. The GALLUP POLL………..They are the ones that predicted a Hillary win…….

    They better gallop out the door…….Their POLLS are as useless as tits on a boar…………..

  23. Well, it would be a good idea for the legislators in all states to take such a step in concert, so as not to leave nearly half of the voters unrepresented in defining who would be the next President.

  24. Popular vote is very misleading. The Electoral College at least allows more voice from individual states, and it reflects popular vote per state. Otherwise, you could have only the larger states determining every presidential outcome. The founding fathers understood the need for each state to be represented. That’s why regardless of the size of the state, each state has 2 Senators. If you take away that equal representation, you will likely have states wanting to leave the union.

    • The electoral vote reflects the popular vote within individual states. That is why Trump won more states than clinton last month. (30 states to 20 states)

      Without the electoral vote, the people of the more densely populated states (not necessarily the larger states) would elect the President of the United States without considering the concerns of the people of the less densely populated states.

      For example: Without the electoral vote, the radicals of CA could have elected clinton to shut down coal mining in WV. The people of WV would have been screwed despite Trump winning 68.7% in WV to clinton’s 26.5%.

  25. The Democrat Party is the party of slavery and Islamic terrorism.

  26. Popular rule isn’t necessarily a democracy, it gives the people what they want, not what they need. That’s why we have the Electoral Vote Win instead of a Popular Vote Win. We are also a Union of States, not one country, that’s what the Electoral College is for, to respect every state in the Union.

  27. Funny how re-counts are bringing certain illegal acts to light. Like democ-RATS being caught in THOUSANDS of voter fraud.
    Once again>>Trump is being proved correct. Must really suck to be a slimy left wing democ-RAT

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  29. Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    We don’t need to change our ELECTORAL VOTES FOR THE POPULAR VOTE. THE DEMOCRATS LOST SO NOW THEY WANT THE POPULAR VOTE TO SAY WHO WINS IF THEY GET THAT HELL NO YOU DEMORATS

  30. The Electorial College was set up for just the purpose of making ever individual US Citizen equal and to make sure that the rich and powerful states didn’t run amok and destroy individual American Citizens rights just because they’re not rich and powerful as some are.
    Yes, the Founding Fathers were right in creating the Electorial College to help to keep all American Citizens equal.

  31. Deplorable Irredeemable Susan

    My main concern is that while Dr. Jillenstein is demanding recounts, Hillary is arm-twisting the electors. She is going around getting petitions for the electors to choose to elect someone other than President Trump. She only needs to convince 37 electors to commit this outrage!!! If she is able to do this, there WILL be a civil war.

  32. Amazing how people feel about electoral college when they read up for why our founders put in place. If not there California and New York would decide every election. . People are finding out that States rights in choosing their president would be gone We are not a democracy where a majority of 1 wins. We are a Republic and there in lies why we have an electoral college. The left wants to impose a false narrative as usual . In fact a majority does not have a clue that we are a Republic and actually have a constitution. It’s neither taught in our secondary schools or universities .

  33. Thank you, Patriot News Daily most conservative blogs will delete most of my post or block them are worse things, that I am poking fun at Republicans, thank you for believing in the First Amendment.

    It’s true I’m not a member of any organize political party, I am a Democrat.-“Will Rogers.”

    • The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

      “Congress shall make no law”. . . means only Congress is restricted from violating the rights described in the First Amendment by the laws it passes.

      Blogs are not Congress. Blogs can’t make laws. That means blog moderators can delete your posts for any reason without violating the First Amendment.

      But I am certain your radicals posts were deleted from other blogs because they contained vile language.

      FYI, Will Rogers died long before the DEMONcRAT party merged with the communist party.

      • FYI, Will Rogers was alive when the REPUBLICAN party was ALL WAYS , the NAZI party. nitwit

        NOT ANY , vile language. Trumper’s YOU “Grab Her By The PU**Y.” LOL

        • FYI, NITWIT, the NAZI party was Germany’s National SOCIALIST party.

          In other words, the NAZIs were SOCIALISTS. That’s right, the NAZIs were SOCIALISTS just like the American DemoncRAT party. The NAZIs, just as the demoncRATS, believed in a big government that controls the economy. Remember how both bernie and hilLIARy were touting SOCIALISM to the useful idiots like YOU who thought SOCIALISM was just another cool word to repeat?

          On the other hand, The American Republican party prefers capitalism. Capitalism means the government stays out of the economy so people can buy and sell as they want without interference from the government. The Republican party can NOT be capitalist AND socialist because those are separate economic ideologies.

  34. To a liberal fake news is that which they don’t agree with . It was the lame street media which lied trying to say witch Hillary was so far ahead in blue states and the electorate didn’t buy it. They have zero credibility . All the alphabet stations and the New York slimes and Washington compost are history . Their viewship is sinking quickly. Just can’t help themselves. They will never learn. It’s fine by me. I want to win more senate seats in 2018x with Nancy Pelosi as their standard bearer we have great chance .

  35. Madison said it all when he spoke of the “Tyranny of the majority”

    • Actually the majority of Americans stepped up to the plate this time and voted against that NWO Globalist Fascist skank Hillary.

  36. Bandara Carlos is a paid troll for one of George Soro’s orgs. Carlos is also an illegal intruder in our great nation. Carlos better walk before President Trump makes him run.

  37. Why are these people that run the places we vote should be held accountable for their screw ups. Illegals voting, dead people voting many times, voting machines vote for other than who the voter voted for, the list goes on and on, but no one is held accountable. Long jail terms would make people thing again about doing these illegal counts.

  38. Trump will save America from all the slime on the left. Obama put us in a deep dark pit now we will see the light. What a long horrible miserable 8 years . The worst in American History. Go Trump!!!!

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