Conservatives Call New Seattle Tax an “Assault on the Rule of Law”

The Freedom Foundation is suing the city of Seattle over a new tax passed by the City Council targeting high-income residents. While the council calls its initiative a “new formula for fairness,” the conservative think tank says it’s an illegal scam that sets a disturbing precedent. The new measure is aimed at those who make more than $250,000 a year ($500,000 for married couples), slapping them with a 2.25% tax.

“This is clearly bad policy and illegal, but it’s also an assault on the rule of law,” David Dewhirst, a lawyer for the Freedom Foundation, said in a statement to Fox News. “If they can get away with it this time, where does it stop?”

The Freedom Foundation’s lawsuit argues that the tax violates the Washington state constitution, which prohibits taxes on net income and requires cities to get state permission before levying new taxes on their residents.

“This tax ordinance’s legal and constitutional infirmities are patently obvious,” Dewhirst argued. “That’s what makes this whole thing so chilling. This law can only survive if the courts abandon decades of precedent – precedent grounded in Washington’s fundamental commitment to legal equality.”

Of course, the Democrats have another story to tell, and if you think there’s no way they could possibly connect a city tax on the rich to Donald Trump…well, you just don’t know today’s liberals.

The goal of the tax, said Mayor Ed Murray, “is to replace our regressive tax system with a new formula for fairness while ensuring Seattle stands up to President Trump’s austere budget that cuts transportation, affordable housing, healthcare and social services.”

This is a shaky time for Seattle to be testing the job creators in their own city. While liberals forecast that the new tax will bring in an additional $140 million for the city, that assumes that many small businesses will not simply find somewhere else to ply their trade. They are, after all, already facing the deleterious effects of another misguided liberal law: A new $15 minimum wage. And according to a recent study by the University of Washington, that wage has only hurt the very people it was intended to help by slashing the amount of hours worked by low-income Seattle employees. Overall, the average employee making minimum wage is now bringing home roughly $125 less per month than they were before the hike.

One can only imagine how much “good” Seattle’s new regressive tax system will do.

 

 

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  1. Liberals in Seattle are frantically patting each other on the back and deliriously celebrating their wonderful largesse with other peoples money.
    Businesses in Seattle that provided jobs for citizens are frantically finding another city to do business in while those who already paid their fair share of taxes and did contribute to the economy are deliriously searching for a new city to pay taxes and contribute in. Liberal economic policy appears to be ensuring there will be no economy. Only poor people who will be much worse off because they blithely got rid of their two main sources of income. Blue collar jobs and taxpaying citizens. God help those who liberals decide to champion, because liberals certainly won’t.

    • lennybiased • a few seconds ago
      NEWS from “The Hill”….[“Those pushing for retroactive tax changes in recent days include several prominent Republicans.
      House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) said last week that retroactive tax cuts are important so that the benefits of the tax changes are realized sooner.”].
      WHAT TEA NUT job thinks tax reform will get done before NOv of 2018 mid term elections?
      RAISE your hands, OK MORONS ??

    • Those ‘Bastions of Liberalism’ include places like Detroit. How many years before Seattle mimics such wonderful places?

      • Don’t forget Chiraq..

      • Vince and et al,
        . . . . Don’t forget it isn’t just Seattle and Detroit that have been taken over by the communist. Almost every major city in the US have been conquered by them. Even a few states have been conquered by the communist and they almost managed to conquer the Federal Government.
        GOD Bless and GOD Help us,
        rich!

      • But I was told by a lefty that Detroit is absolutely wonderful. Detroit has been a pit since they started electing Democrat mayors.

    • I talked to a relative a few weeks ago who works for Boing aircraft. He told me tyey were relocating a part of Boing to Califnronia because wgaes were cheaper there . My first thought was how absurd that had to be; surly the cost to replicate has t obe enormous, building proper facilities, relocating key employees, locating new employees with the proper skills, just reestablishing themselves. It must all cost a bundle – BUT – they can justify it for lower wages? How much less will Boeing managers and investors take home?
      It reminds me of the outcome of Obama’s Economy Agenda; America’s CEOs and senior staffers were seeing annual income raise at over 30% per year while the average worker for years and years was almost frozen and millions and millions of Americans were without work, many having lost good paying jobs to immigrants congress had allowed to come here (one million per year then Obama increased that by another 25,000 ).
      I have always thought that EVERY FAMILY should be entitled to adequate housing at an affordable cost. Affordable relating to material to build with, utilities, property ,insurance to build that house then upkeep and insurance all must be considered. BUT when huge monstrous homes are built with almost dream like landscapes take up ungodly amount of material, demands more energy and huge gardens, lawns and pools, it drives the prices up for everyone.
      Luxury taxes on the absurd is reasonable; we all end up paying more for a 2×4 (+) because the demand has been pushed up, power rates go up because of demand, cost for virtually everything is increased (except maybe for the labor to attend to the lawns, homes and whims of the wealthy); the wealthy can afford it – the less than wealthy – many who can hardly scratch out a living, too often are forced to pay more because those who can afford it created the demands that pushes prices up for everyone.
      The argument here will be that is why the wealthy pay more in taxes; but that only benefits the government who will quickly find another program, make another office with quickly growing staffs, and the average Joe will struggle a little harder.

      • Moonlight Gambler

        My God, with the absolutely horrible spelling, it’s a mind-numbing job just trying to make some sense of what this writer is attempting to make! Is it asking too much to re-read your comment and edit? Even a 9th grader would be able to accomplish that. This apparently may be the results of the ‘dumbing’ down of America for the last 50 years on display once again.

      • I thought Boeing moved part of their operation to Alabama.

        • I believe that’s Airbus in Mobile. Boeing has a facility in North Charleston, SC at the airport that they are expanding. They’ve moved some of the engineering out of the Seattle area to there in the past year. I’ll never understand why Boeing relocated their headquarters to, of all places, Chicago instead of Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX.

    • where did you get the information to back up you opinion?…alway interested to learn

      • A place called reality. Your a liberal so you wouldn’t know it. In this place there are no unicorns, everything isn’t free and poor people do not benefit from driving businesses and those who provide them away. So that all you are left with is poor people, and unbearably smug liberals patting themselves on the back for their fake moral superiority that never actually helps anyone, because that’s not what it’s about for them, it’s about their desperate and rather pathetic need for others to admire all the qualities they pretend to have so they can feel good about themselves and sit in judgment on others who would prefer to come up with an actual solution to the problem. Not just one that strokes their own shallow ego’s.
        Didn’t I tell you to go color or take a nap or make Playdoh peace signs?

        • you have a lot of opinions with zero facts to back them up- I have nothing to learn from you-please continue bouncing around your factless”beliefs” in your echo chamber of nodding sycophants-you are one intolerant person-I have nothing to learn from you

          • Liberals are so cute when they’re trying to be witty. Unfortunately your smug, self serving, fake moral superiority always shines through. Did someone have a bad nap? Are you out of Playdoh?

  2. As the producers get squeezed, they look to greener pastures so they can continue to produce at a profit. Money flows toward places where it is treated the best. Raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour has put many small businesses in the position where the cost of labor exceeds the value it produces turning it into a negative value added cost to the employer. Then they open the doors to illegal aliens, sometimes criminal illegal aliens and hand the bill to coddle and support them to those producing way more than they consume – essentially incentivizing them to leave. Eventually what you will have left will be the poor legals, the poor illegals, the municipal service workers, the city council and no money to provide services. A real recipe for success IMHO.

  3. lennybiased
    Don’t DO IT VINNY, you louse & Skarra Mucci MULE FOOL ! ! !
    Bob Mueller indictable crimes of Trump and associates, to date:
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    2) OBstruction of justice, BLATANT by TEAM Trump and the HEAD of that SMELLY FISH, Don Trump PREZ ! ! ! ! !
    3) Conspiracy to collude WITH Russia, for purposes & intent to commit ELECTION FRAUD ! …
    4) RICO Statute violations for every Trump campaign ADVISOR & FAMILY MEMBER ! …

  4. NEWS from “The Hill”….[“Those pushing for retroactive tax changes in recent days include several prominent Republicans.
    House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) said last week that retroactive tax cuts are important so that the benefits of the tax changes are realized sooner.”].
    WHAT TEA NUT job thinks tax reform will get done before NOv of 2018 mid term elections?
    RAISE your hands, OK MORONS ????

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    • Sounds like another “Here I AM – remember me when it comes reelection time!) Sounds more like a Hillary Clinton than an honest Republican!

      • “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
        What will the PARty of the RICH -GOP FAt Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
        Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. DOes that sound like TEA PARty “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY?

        • Folks like you crack me up…GOP the rich party…lol. You do realize that the clintons said they were broke when they left the White House? Guess that’s why they stole the china…lol. Yet now they have…and you made them this way..a net worth of better than $500 million. Pretty good for 12 years of stealing from the public and taking payoffs from the likes of the Russians and Saudis…thanks for the laugh though.

          • Who are the Koch Industries brothers pal? How Much are they worth? Who is Sheldon Adelson? How much is he worth?

            WHEN Wall street embraces a “NYC Swindler guy” like Donald Trump & Family, don’t they expect their Wall street SWINDLING GAMES Will do real well for putting money in their FAT CAT pockets pal???? . . . …
            WHY is the DJIA at record levels now, OLD FOOL & GOAT lips?

          • lol…and I can name just as many if not more old big money. Kennedy’s, Rothschild, Forbes, Astors…then you have the billionaires that came into their wealth in the last 40 years…the Gates, Steve Jobs, the fruit loot from Facebook…get a live troll. You fucks are as stupid as the day is long. Heck, that thief Bernie Sanders and his wife are the worst of the worst…so go fuck yourself dimwit.

          • Which US political party is firmly aligned with BIG OIL interests pal?
            Why is the DJIA at record levels since Trump was elected?

            “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
            What will the Party of the RICH -GOP Fat Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
            Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. Does that sound like TEA PARty “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY?

          • Again you parrot the liberal line… You do realize the “BIG OIL” is the largest employer of the middle class? You know, the ones that pay for you liberal socialists that want WIC, Planned Parenthood, welfare, EBT and all the rest of the hand outs you lazy ass leeches want. Hey, I know…if you socialists don’t like free market and capitalism, why not move to a country that does the whole socialist bull crap stuff. You can go to Canada and if you need medical care you can wait a long long time to see a specialist like they do. Or even better, why not head on down to Venezuela and scrape for a job like those idiots are doing now.

            Taxes and other reforms here….hey, that pos bag eared bitch obeyme with his obeymecare cost me more than any other president has since I’ve been paying taxes back in the sixties. Until the rinos are voted out President Trump will have a harder time getting things done…but next year the traitors will again find they have screwed with the wrong folks and will find themselves on the outside looking in. Here in Kalifornistan our problem is there’s to many fools like you voting in the likes of brown, fienstien, pelosi and waters (my gawd it’s the cast of One Flew Over the Coo Coos Nest)….yeah, old moonbeam is raising our gas taxes huge to cover his ass because they miss manage our money so bad we haven’t got enough to fix our roads. Even though we already have the highest taxes already. They all want to take our 2nd Amendment yet have armed body guards….hmmmm. This state is the poster child of the idiot liberal!!!

          • Things you don’t know about me, PAL – pay attention , MORON….
            1) I AM retired at 65 yr old, having worked at private sector jobs for about 50 years. THAT means I paid LOTS of Federal taxes, OLD MAN.
            What have you paid in lifetime FED taxes, hypocrite fool?
            2) I know more about US national economics & Businesses , than you could learn in ten lifetimes…Just try me fool…
            3) HOW is Venezuela relevant to TAX reform that will never happen like Trump says it will , OLD MAN?
            4) I am not psychotic, but you sure have all of the earmarks of psychosis, OLD MAN…..

          • If you do some research you will find that there are a lot more rich democrats than there are rich republicans, & the richest democrat is richer than the richest republican. Look it up if you don’t believe me. The democrats are the real party of the rich. They’re just good at hiding it & fooling most of the people most of the time.

          • It’s an argument that is not worth continuing. Who makes TAX Law on the Federal level.
            Which Party has the most BIG BIZ interests, as represented by Lobbyists in Wash D.C.??
            “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
            What will the Party of the RICH -GOP Fat Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
            Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. Does that sound like TEA PARty “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY?

            WHAT is YOUR tax reform plan that will “help all of the avg Joe’s, small dollar taxpayers in the country LIZ Taylor jewelry lines?

    • sandraleesmith46

      Troll alert; possibly bot! It keeps repeating itself.

      • The only Healthcare “PAYMENT REFORM” that would work is for everyone to “PAY CASH” for any medical expense, from hospitals to doctor visits to drugs.
        WHO is on board with that idea, TEA Dim TWITS??……..

  5. doesn’t Gates live in Seattle?

  6. luvsgunsandamerica

    Liberalism,an untreatable mental disorder that causes creates intense dislike for those predeposed of said disorder

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          Trump just gave the most insane press conference about Charlottesville

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          2 hours ago – Donald Trump took questions from the press about the Charlottesville, Virginia, white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally over the weekend.

          Seth Meyers on Trump: A ‘Racist,’ ‘Insane,’ ‘Bitter Little Clown’

          http://www.newsweek.com/charlottesville-fallon-kimmel-meyers-reaction-650958

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    • Cure COULD be a nice “doubletap”. That is what THEY want for their “enemies”. Believe that.

    • The following was written by fellow climate hawk Tom Perriello. Tom is a Charlottesville native and transitional justice expert who previously served as a congressman and peace negotiator. He recently ran for governor of Virginia as the first signatory of our No Fossil Fuel Money pledge, and we endorsed him. He is currently CEO of WinVirginia, an effort to flip the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017 and reduce the impact of money in American politics. — RL & Brad

      Kol —

      “Heil Trump,” the white supremacists chanted as they marched past me, turning my beloved hometown of Charlottesville, Virginia, into a rallying point for fascists, white supremacists, and their preppy enablers in the so-called alt-right. One side instigated the rally, dubbed it #UniteTheRight, and spent months escalating violent rhetoric. President Donald Trump blamed “many sides.” They rallied to prevent the removal of a Confederate statue. Trump’s nationally televised response—“we must cherish our history”—was heard less as a dog whistle than as a bullhorn.

      Many of the racist ralliers intentionally invoked shocking images from our past, but if leaders, particularly on the right, do not quickly acknowledge the breadth and depth of this crisis, these new images may serve more as harbingers of our future. While Charlottesville played host, most of the pro-hate participants I interviewed came from across the mid-Atlantic and even Midwest. The man suspected of being the driver that plowed through anti-racist protesters was identified as a 20-year-old from Ohio. As for scope, while their numbers were only in the hundreds, a Republican candidate for Virginia governor this year who ran on a neo-Confederate platform and embraced these groups’ calls to protect the monuments came within 1 percent of winning the nomination this summer.

      While much can be debated about the event, a few items were very clear.

      First, this was unequivocally about race, about white tribalism. For the hundreds who rallied, many of them heavily armed, race was the defining issue. No one I talked to mentioned economic anxiety or trade policy. “You will not replace us” was the leading chant, and I was told multiple times that I was clearly a “Jew banker,” “faggot,” or “sellout to my people.” Their signs read “White Lives Matter” and said that Charlottesville’s black vice-mayor “Wes Bellamy is a Nigger.” I have met Trump voters who were not primarily motivated by race—these were not them.

      Second, these guys are enabled by Donald Trump and the politics of Steve Bannon. From the “Heil Trump” chants to the MAGA hats, the participants were clear with me that Trump had made this “our time.” After Trump tweeted that “We ALL must be united,” former KKK grand wizard David Duke responded, “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.” At this point, Trump appears more beholden to white supremacists than to Putin. Doubt it? Watch the sequence of events on Saturday, from Trump’s relatively presidential tweet condemning the hate, to David Duke’s overt challenge to Trump not to disown the white tribalists who elected him, to Trump’s moral disaster of a press conference in which he refused to condemn or even name white supremacy or domestic terrorism and apparently ad-libbed the most cowardly act of moral relativism of the modern era.

      Third, Saturday showed us a vision of a dystopian future that is the logical extension of our current gun laws. Not just gun ownership but AR-15s. Not just concealed carry but open carry. And not just the right to open carry even long guns but to dress in full military fatigues with accessories (earpieces, vests, insignias) to blur every line between legitimate law enforcement and a fully armed white nationalist militia. I have spent time in multiple conflict zones and still would not have known at a quick glance if bullets started flying which heavily armed men in camouflage and flak jackets represented law and order and which were armed terrorists. Donald Trump, who claims to be the hero of law enforcement, has issued no criticism of those who blur the line between public and private security forces, who blur the most sacred blue line between violence and force. Is there anything more vital of a commander in chief who claims to care about those who serve in uniform than to condemn those who fake the uniform?

      Fourth, it is probably easiest to just start referring to this entire coalition as the modern KKK. Yes, they are fascists and white supremacists, “alt-right” and actual KKK. Yes, they each had a distinct uniform, from the white polo–wearing preppy brigade to the cosplay crowd to the toy-soldier dress-up troops. But they are clearly working as a coordinated unit, just as the Klan did through various periods. The working class generally wore the robes and committed the ugly crimes, while the leadership wore the robes of judges and badges of sheriffs that wielded the real power of ensuring white male supremacy. This network is trying to cross-brand, and the result is an integrated network of white supremacists that collectively constitute the modern Klan.

      Finally, there will be a strong desire to avoid the proximate cause of this rally: how we remember the Civil War. Many moderates on both sides find it distasteful or “agitating” to consider how we memorialize that history. As someone who has worked on transitional justice efforts in a dozen countries, I can tell you that civilized countries have always made deliberate decisions about how to tell their history, who to memorialize, and how that becomes more accurate and informed over time. Do we honor history when we freeze in time a set of memorials largely born out of mythology, largely resurrected in the midst of desegregation (not the war), and largely based on an utterly debunked revisionist history of the Civil War? These critiques of renaming buildings and “protecting” statues are not historically accurate or intellectually honest. They are lazy attempts to avoid the difficult work of correcting the lingering effects of the Dunning School and the Lost Cause myth. It is a failure to understand the new Jim Crow laws that result. It is rendering invisible even today that the majority of human beings in Charlottesville and Albemarle County at the time of the Civil War were black, and it was black Union fighters who were the first to enter Richmond. What this three-month modern Klan campaign should teach those who passively support keeping these monuments is that they serve not as innocent icons of our past but political tools of hate and fear in our present.

      Saturday could be the anomaly or become the norm. This could be coming to a town near you, or our future could be defined by the many solidarity vigils being organized around the country. Our future will be determined by whether we speak honestly about the racial demagoguery of this White House, whether principled conservatives stop enabling the racist and authoritarian policies of the Trump administration, whether we restore the line between force and violence, and whether we have the moral and intellectual courage to engage honestly with our past.

      Langston Hughes famously said, “America never was America to me,/ And yet I swear this oath—/ America will be.” Saturday’s clash in Charlottesville may have lacked the poetry, but it offered the same prophetic challenge of those words. Previous generations sacrificed beyond measure to get us closer to that aspiration. Let’s be perfectly clear that there is only one good way for this story to end, and it isn’t with the the side of death or fear, of hate or of a nostalgia for a cult of racial injustice. It’s the only story there is to tell: of the America that will be.

      • Not only do you feel it necessary to post a ridiculously long rant, that is completely off topic for the story above, you find it necessary to do it twice. How typically irrelevant of you.

        • North Korea Says Trump Is Following Hitler’s Path and His ‘America …

          http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-trump-hitler-nazi-629379

          Jun 27, 2017 – North Korea’s state-run news agency has slammed President Donald Trump’s “America First” policies as being even more “ferocious and …

          North Korea Compares Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler – WSJ

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/north-korea-compares-trump-to-hitler-1498541392

          Jun 27, 2017 – North Korea’s state media described President Donald Trump’s “America First” policy as “Nazism in the 21st century,” and compared the … –

          Trump and Hitler, Part 2 | HuffPost

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/trump-and-hitler-part-2_us_59919154e4b0ed1f464c0c5...

          20 hours ago – Trump and Hitler.” I wrote this piece almost two years ago. I saw the handwriting on the wall. It was crystal clear. But it wasn’t a popular …

          North Korea compares Donald Trump to Hitler in attack on ‘racist …

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk › News

          Jun 27, 2017 – Mr Trump’s “two-nation strategy” towards the Korean Peninsula is “based on Hitler’s dictatorial policies that separate people from their peers, …

          Donald Trump’s ex-wife: Trump kept book of Hitler’s speeches by bed …

          http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers...

          Sep 1, 2015 – According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald …

          • Mr. Manfredgensenden

            Who gives a happy crap WHAT insane little pig boy says?

          • That IS a pretty stupid thing to say considering that he IS in a position where he could possibly start a nuclear war that could kill and maim many millions of people in several different countries and he also could possibly cause WW3. Coupled with that, considering the mentally dysfunctional garbage that we have in the White House at this present time America is in a very dangerous situation from several different perspectives.

          • It is the past mental deficient “leaders” in the White House that led to this pass. So, our present President should compound the errors by following their lack of leadership and continue to appease the most problematic rogue nation in the world today? And once again, what does any of this have to do with the crazy tax law being discussed in the story above?

          • Trying to have any type of honest, open discussion with you is an exhibition in complete futility. I could sooner have a debate with a bag of onions and still get a clearer, more cogent response and would get the same Russian flavor. Keep on quoting NK and the NK News Agency and see how many people worldwide that will pay you any mind. Can you count to three?

          • Russian flavor??? What you say is sort of blithering.

          • I think he should have stressed Communist Russian, and no better than the al-left MSM!

          • I have extended family in Russia, and I have lived over there a few times for extended periods to be near them. One of the funniest things I’ve ever seen is watching the Russian Communist Party go on the air on Russian TV and brag and boast that today they are Russia’s “Republican” political faction… and they are VERY right wing extremist and conservative. LOLOLOL!

          • Oh, how informative I thought anything right of center was considered Nazi.

          • You “thought”?? You’re capable of “thinking”???
            ROFLMAO

          • You are about as much a cliche’ as late night comedy.

          • Kah? That sounds about as stupid as it gets.

          • For your own sake, don’t quote anything Kol offers as information. He is not what anyone would refer to as an independent, reliable source.

          • How original! Hope you didn’t hurt yourself thinking up that old favorite.

          • You can’t seem to think up any new insults or snotty remarks, just the same old ones. How come?

          • Are you mumbling incoherently to yourself again? Must be terminal liberalism.

          • As I said… “You can’t seem to think up any new insults or snotty remarks, just the same old ones. How come?”

            LOLOL!!

          • Just trying to keep[ it down to an easy to comprehend level for you.

          • As I said… “You can’t seem to think up any new insults or snotty remarks, just the same old ones. How come?”

            LOLOL!!

          • Or you didn’t get the reference, which is the most likely scenario.

      • Kol,
        How have you been? Tom Perriello doesn’t know his head from a hole in the ground and little kim has nothing relevant to add to anything. First on Tom and his understanding of the “Civil War”. The United States did not have a Civil War. History is written by the victors. The victors like to call it a Civil War but in fact a better description is a war between the states, the war of southern sucession or the war of Northern aggression. A civil war is conducted between two political powers in contest for a single government. That is not what happened at all. The south wanted to leave the union and continue to retain their sovereignty as individual states. The North wanted to continue to collect the immense federal export tax from southern cotton. In addition they did not want slavery to move west to new states being formed. The nonsence in Charlottesville was a creation of the left. They want to rewrite history and they know that the groups that showed up there care about that history. They wanted the violence. They sent their attack dogs antifa and BLM down to start a fight. The Klan though repugnant was there legally. If the left had not shown up illegally there would have been no violence.

        • The counter-protesters did not “show up illegally”!!! That’s just another White Supremacist / right wing extremist lie.

          There is supposed to be another White Nationalist demonstration in Boston this coming Saturday, but 100s of thousands of people have signed petitions to the Mayor and City Council demanding that it not be allowed. I’ve signed several myself.

          • Charlottesville police chief said that. He is African American. No Kol not a White Supremacist lie. They did not have a permit.

        • FIGHTING HATE // TEACHING TOLERANCE // SEEKING JUSTICE

          AUGUST 14, 2017

          Dear Ken,

          It’s time for each of us to take a strong stand. We can’t give an inch to hate!

          That’s why today we’re releasing a new edition of our publication Ten Ways to Fight Hate.

          It provides a blueprint for speaking up and organizing communities against hate while – most importantly – avoiding violent confrontations.

          No one should be fooled into thinking the revolting display of hate and violence we saw in Charlottesville was an isolated event.

          We know that it’s part of a powerful white supremacist resurgence that’s been propelled by the campaign and presidency of Donald Trump. And it’s not going away any time soon.

          Ten Ways is available online, and we’ll be distributing it free to community groups across America. We’re also running ads in major newspapers across America to spell out its 10 principles for fighting hate.

          In addition, last week we released The Alt-Right on Campus, a guide specifically tailored to help college students respond when speakers associated with the alt-right – or white nationalist – movement appear on their campus.

          The act of terror we saw this weekend – and the chilling scenes of white supremacists marching with torches at night through a Southern city – should serve as a wake-up call to America.

          I hope you will take a few moments to read Ten Ways. Download it and share with your friends, community groups, church members and others. And, please, make a personal commitment to push back against this poison that’s spreading in our country.

          Sincerely,

          Your friends at the SPLC

          • Kol,
            The groups at Charlottesville do not represent the vast people of the United States. Both of the sides are contemptable. SPLC is not a credible source.

          • The FBI dump them in 2014 because of their inaccurate hate crime report. They are a biased left wing hack organization.

          • You ever been anywhere??

            Here’s one of the most intriguing places I’ve ever seen when I’ve spent time in Russia visting some of my extended family there. It’s about 1,200 miles from my main family city over there… quite an experience!

            Ufa ( Уфа ) – Bashkir and Islam Capital of Russia – YouTube

            ▶ 3:47

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofMqmBZPzPI

            Oct 21, 2011 – Uploaded by RussianDefender100

            Ufa, the capital and largest city of Bashkiria. also the industrial, economic, scientific and cultural center of the …

          • Kol,
            Yes, I have been on every continent except the South Pole. I have lived in Europe, Japan, Australia, and Africa. I have not been to Russia but will remedy that one day. So do you recommend Bashkir?

          • The South Pole is a “continent”??? I thought it was a small geographical location located ON a contiewnt — Antarctica…

          • You are correct Antarctica is the continent.

          • Quite fascinating place! Also Barnaul (my family city), Novosibirsk, Chemal, Yarovoye, Tomsk, Omsk, Ekaterinburg, Togliattti,… and, of course, MOSCOW and St. Petersburg.

          • I was looking at just St. Petersburg and Moscow. I will certainly look at the others and consider them.

          • Barnaul ( Барнаул ), Siberia – YouTube

            ▶ 3:25

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_WJjuu_yk

            Jan 18, 2010 – Uploaded by RussianDefender100

            Barnaul – is the Administrative Center of Altai Krai and the 4th Largest City in the Siberian Federal District …

          • Kol, not able to articulate your own reasonable argument as usual so you go to “Derp”. You need to read something other than the people who agree with your world view.

          • Mr. Manfredgensenden

            How about the manic ‘hate’ the loony Left has for President Trump?

          • You act likek an idiot. What for?

            Here’s how the U.S. Empire will devolve into fascism and then collapse-according to science

            June 30, 2017 by Russell Roberts

            Hawaii Intelligence Digest, 01 July 2017, 04:25 hrs, UTC, Post #244.

            Source:

            http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/heres-how-the-us-empire-will-devolve-into-fascism-and-then-collapse-according-to-science-2/

            Accessed on 01 July 2017, 04:25 hrs, UTC.

            Reporter: Travis Gettys.

            Please click link to read the full story.

            Comment:

            According to a University of Hawaii at Manoa sociologist, the United States “Empire” is living on borrowed time. Professor Johan Galtung, who correctly used modern analytical tools to predict the downfall of the Soviet Union and the 9/11 attacks at the World Trade Center, believes U.S. power, reputation, and influence will decline rapidly under President Donald Trump. Galtung says his original prediction of 25 years for the collapse of the United States has been reduced to less than 20 years, thanks to the past policies of President George W. Bush and the isolationist/protectionist stance of current President Donald Trump. Galtung adds that the final gasp of the U.S. Empire will come as an extreme right-wing political philosophy takes hold of America and transforms the country into a fascist state.

            Professor Galtung bases his predictions on a model comparing the rise and fall of 10 historical empires and on what he calls “synchronizing and mutually reinforcing contradictions.”

            Galtung says the future of our country is grim and foreboding:

            “American fascism would spring from its capacity for global violence, a vision of exceptionalism, a belief in an inevitable and final war between good and evil, the cult of a strong state leading that battle, and a cult of the “strong leader.”

            “Galtung said all of those elements presented themselves during the Bush era, but he fears fascist tendencies could sharpen under Trump as those cultists lash out in disbelief at the loss of American power.”

            “The sociologist identified unsustainable economic, social, military and political contradictions that would eventually topple the U.S. as a world power.”

            “Overproduction relative to demand, unemployment and the increasing costs of climate change would weaken the U.S. economy, according to his model.”

            “Galtung also predicted that rising tensions between the U.S., NATO and its military allies, coupled with the increasing economic costs of war and the political conflicts between the U.S., United Nations and the European Union, would also diminish American power.”

            Opinion:

            Professor Galtung offers a chilling look at what our nation is becoming. We are overextended, amazingly ignorant about the real world, and woefully unprepared to confront our adversaries. Our national leadership ignores the advice of our allies, squanders our resources in endless wars, and refuses to confront the truths of science, technology, and economics. Time is running out to address our weaknesses, both foreign and domestic. If we’re unable to confront the challenges of a multi-dimensional world, we will collapse of our own accord and join the former Soviet Union as another historical relic. As it stands now, the future no longer belongs to us.

            For the latest trends in geopolitical intelligence, strategic forecasting, terrorism, politics, and cybersecurity, please visit my daily intelligence briefing at:

            https://paper.li/f-1482109921.

            For more information on the above topics, please check the blog sidebars. These news feeds are updated daily.

            Opinions expressed in this blog are mine unless otherwise stated.

            Thanks for joining us today.

            Until next time,

            Russell Roberts

            Hawaii Intelligence Digest

            https://hawaiiintelligencedigest.com

            https://paper.li/f-1482109921

        • ^^

          Trump just gave the most insane press conference about Charlottesville

          mashable.com/2017/08/…/donald-trump-press-conference-infrastructure-charlottesvill…

          2 hours ago – Donald Trump took questions from the press about the Charlottesville, Virginia, white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally over the weekend.

          Seth Meyers on Trump: A ‘Racist,’ ‘Insane,’ ‘Bitter Little Clown’

          http://www.newsweek.com/charlottesville-fallon-kimmel-meyers-reaction-650958

          9 hours ago – On Monday night, late-night hosts took the first opportunity they had to speak out against hate, and against Trump’s initial unwillingness to do …

          • Kol why do you quote people like Seth Meyer like they are an academic source? He is a comedian. By definition he is paid to mock the president. Why dont you come up with an insight of your own?

          • Why don’t you look at the REALITY of the way Donald Trump acts!

          • Look at the way the average liberal college protester acts.

      • luvsgunsandamerica

        So,what’s your extended rant prove except you have too much time on your hands and no common sense.

      • The Ferguson riots, Baltimore riots, looted and/or burned businesses, the destruction of college campuses and local private properties, cancelled conservative speeches and/or events, killing of police officers, etc. all instigated by the alt-left SJW and you never considered the polar opposite HATE of the extreme radical right?
        I despise racism, all forms of it, but only the left could vilify the sentiment of “All lives matter” while endorsing the behaviors of the BLM groups.
        Only the left could admire white college professors who despise all whites, yet vilify a woman who portrays to be black and head a local chapter of the NAACP.
        To Hell with all these demonstrations (black or white) get off the streets. People like me, need to get to work and feed our families, and I would certainly hate running you over.

    • “predeposed”??? What language is that. it is not a word in the English languge!

      (Maybe you meant “pedisposed”????)

      LOL!

  7. Let the commies in Seattle put in their taxes and regulation and other freedom killing laws. Soon there will be no one left to pay their taxes. When will people realize that when you tax people more and they have a choice they will raise their prices to make up for the new taxes or leave the high tax area. New Jersey tried that and there was one guy who paid millions in taxes. They raised it even further and the guy said he’s had enough and moves out of New Jersey. They are now short of revenue. Good plan liberals.

  8. Whatever the Communist Party does in this country is all right but you let the people on the right just make one fraction a mistake and the media is all over beating the drum day and night just like they are in Charlotte, all the while black lives matter for the last year has gotten by with stopping cars dragging people are there cars being them burning down buildings you name it and you know what no problem here . This is the Communist Party in action, as the a.k.a. Democrat party never chastises anything wrong with the left does because they don’t want to stop there momentum.

    • “…black lives matter for the last year has gotten by with stopping cars dragging people are there cars being them burning down buildings you name it and you know what no problem here,”

      Any proof for this statement ?-also was it a one off or is this a common practice in their protests?

      Please show some proof/documentation

      • If you would pay attention to the news, or gold maybe on YouTube and type in yourself but I seen it on the news I watch the physically on camera. So I’m not stating something that I had not seen myself with my own eyes. And these are only a few of the many attacks of blacks against whites that went on the whole time Obama was in power ,including on film black people saying they want death to the White and things of that sure but nothing said or done about that! I would probably venture to say if you were on YouTube you would see them laying down in the middle of highways and you watch the Ferguson news or the Baltimore news you would’ve been seeing these places being burned down and loaded so I am not in the dark my friend I believe you are.

        • I pay close attention to the media- your comment said this was black lives matter doing this-
          “…while black lives matter for the last year has gotten by with stopping cars dragging people are there cars being them burning down buildings you name it and …”

          Please provide the source of proof of the statement you quoted above-

          I challenge you to find a link/youtube video to back this up-

          Thank you

          • Rich I think we need to terminate our conversation, because you are being controlled by the left. What I have written I had seen and if you didn’t see it that is not my fault but I assure you the only place you would’ve seen it whatever been on a video on one of the blogs sections or it would’ve been on Fox news other than that you would not of seen it because it does not benefit the communist control media to go and destroy their narrative. Have a nice day don’t write me back

      • Get your head out of your ass. Go get some fresh air and stop getting your “news” (and lack there of) from msm and left wing propaganda.

        • OK here you go-

          NEWS IN BRIEF
          8.14.17
          VOL 53 ISSUE 32

          Man Waiting To See How Few More Decades Of Racial Violence Play Out Before Taking Action

          DES MOINES, IA—Saying he planned to hold off for another 20 or 30 years and then assess where things stand, local man Trevor Russell was reportedly waiting to see how a few more decades of racial violence played out before taking any action, sources confirmed Monday. “I think I’ll just sit back and take a long look at how institutionalized attacks against disenfranchised minority populations fall into place over the next couple generations before I really get involved,” said Russell, 34, adding that he would have a much fuller picture of how people of color were being systematically abused by then and thus be better prepared to take a stand. “Let’s see how all the violations of human rights unfold by 2040 or 2050 before I publicly commit to resisting bigotry and hatred. I don’t want to rush into anything without really having all the facts first.” Russell added that a few decades wasn’t a hard deadline and that he’d defer action further if he felt he still needed more information.

          http://www.theonion.com/article/man-waiting-see-how-few-more-decades-racial-violen-56647

  9. I have a big problem with this fairness crap. You want to earn a livable wage get a job that pays a livable wage. Get the skills. You don’t deserve a doctor wage working at McDonald’s flippin’ burgers. Nobody, not even the self anointed in Washington, owes anyone a job. Time to get off the couch and make yourself employable. I realize that’s a novel concept to far to many people today.

    • Fairness is a Democrat communist word for redistributiuon of wealth from those that earned it to those that didn’t. It’s straight up communist socialism. It will ruin America.

      • FYI pal. Medical physicians make MORE than $15 per hour , ok buddy ???
        It’s more like about $235 per hour, MORON…. WELL trained LAWYERS can get that over $200 an hour pay too.
        WHAT do you make , noodling do nothing Goon-a-tic?…???????

        • So what stopped you and so many other unfortunate whiners from getting that doctorate or passing the bar?
          Could it be that you already have such a poor understanding of the economy or was it the more desirable government assistance programs?

          • GREAT projection abilities, Mr. IDIOT goon. I am retired, at 65 yr old, having been a pharmacist for 35 years at America’s Mayo Clinic, #1 in the world for healthcare..
            I do have two university degrees and a Board of Pharmacy license..
            WHATCHU Talkin’ BOUT Willis von-neo NAZI Imbecile?

          • Act like a mature 65 year old!
            And then and only then other liberal whiners might just believe you.

          • Junior Screwball OLD MAN, you said this to me, based on ZERO facts: {So what stopped you and so many other unfortunate whiners from getting that doctorate or passing the bar?}……….
            I replied the {statement below], so who is immature about calling others NAMES and belittling others , when you KNOW NOTHING, Mr. MAturity – Work in PRogress?
            Why are you LIARS such hypocrites, OLD MAN???

            [“I do have two university degrees and a Board of Pharmacy license..
            WHATCHU Talkin’ BOUT Willis von-neo NAZI Imbecile?”]…

          • You stress my points.
            Enough said.

          • Could you re-translate your OLD MAN TEA Party projectionism statement for me OLD JERK WAD & GOON for Trumpsski?

            Junior Screwball OLD MAN, you said this to me, based on ZERO facts: {So what stopped you and so many other unfortunate whiners from getting that doctorate or passing the bar?}……….
            I replied the [in the statement below], so who is immature about calling others NAMES and belittling others , when you KNOW NOTHING, Mr. MAturity – Work in PRogress?
            Why are you LIARS such hypocrites, OLD MAN???

            [“I do have two university degrees and a Board of Pharmacy license..
            WHATCHU Talkin’ BOUT Willis von-neo NAZI Imbecile?”]…

          • Mr. WOW and revelations Goon for Trumpsski Screwball OLD MAN, you said this to me, based on ZERO facts: {So what stopped you and so many other unfortunate whiners from getting that doctorate or passing the bar?}……….
            WHY did you ask me that question, OLD projectionism FOOL?
            EXPLAIN your motivations, OLD MAN ! ! !

          • At this point, any further commentary is there only to see how foolish your reply is.
            You didn’t attend college. Your far to ignorant.
            You’re a Mama’s basement, video game, hairy palm kinda guy!

          • [“I do have two university degrees and a Board of Pharmacy license..
            WHATCHU Talkin’ BOUT Willis von-neo NAZI Imbecile?”]…
            My mother has been dead and in the grave for 20 years now POPS. How about YO Mama, fool & idiot goon for Trumpsski?

          • You sound like an idiot.

          • Later.
            I got better things to do.

          • You’re going to sound like an idiot later? How much later?

          • Trumplorable Infidel Robbjack

            He’s just attempting (and failing) to follow the idiocy and lunacy you share with monotonous regularity. Comrade

          • Ты тоже звучит как полный идиот, Товарич. Зачем?

          • Trumplorable Infidel Robbjack

            SEE!! Demon-rats are commies!!

          • Just because someone speaks Russian!?!?? That is really stupid — really it is!! I know several languages… how many do you speak? You don’t act very “educated”…

          • Trumplorable Infidel Robbjack

            I certainly don’t speak Dumba$$, that’s why I have no idea what the he!! your talking about. Sweetheart..

          • As I said… “You can’t seem to think up any new insults or snotty remarks, just the same old ones. How come?”

            LOLOL!!

          • Trumplorable Infidel Robbjack

            Lo siento, que no hablo a idiota…

          • 凸(`⌒´メ)凸

          • LOL! I bet you are so dumb you can’t even use an online translator so you at least know what I said, can you!?! :-)))

          • Trumplorable Infidel Robbjack

            I’m not willing to expend the energy to see what your dumb a$$ came up with princess.. Deal with it.

          • As I said… “You can’t seem to think up any new insults or snotty remarks, just the same old ones. How come?”

            LOLOL!! –

          • Trumplorable Infidel Robbjack

            Una vez más, lo siento, no hablo idiota…

          • You sound like more of an idiot each time you post something.
            How idiotic can you get!?!? LOL! It should be interesting to watch!

          • So what stopped you and so many other unfortunate whiners from getting that doctorate or passing the bar?
            Could it be that you already have such a poor understanding of the economy or was it the more desirable government assistance programs?

          • My point was $15.00 an hour, minimum wage jobs would only hurt the economy.
            Kiosks are already replacing employees.
            Entry level jobs aren’t even in the realm of a doctors or lawyers profession.
            To bring such an example shows how poor your train of thought is, not to mention how envious you are of people who have put forth the effort to deserve those jobs.
            Wether you’re 65 years old or not, you are immature.
            Life is not fair.
            You fight to improve your odds at success not demand it from people who have already paid their dues.

          • MR. BIZ Whiz, there’s just one economic fact in the way of your B.S. TEA PArty spew talking point pal.
            MINimum wage workers typically cannot and do not SAVE any money right? So, the aggregate $’s amount of their “pay raise” goes right back into the economy.

            How is MORE dollars in any given economic area bad, FOOL??
            Give me some counter gravity argument about how I cannot be right, OLD man and DIP-schttitick FOOL ! !

          • …and raises consumer costs to everyone, negating any said benefits.
            You’re really ignorant for someone claiming they have a degree.

          • YOU don’t know how individual businesses can afford or not afford to pay higher wages, so that is a red herring. So are your silly automation claims. When Henry Ford invented the assembly line, what did you say about that in the early 1900’s old fossil?
            Business owners invest to make some money pal, so if your boy Pudzer of Carl’s Jr and HArdees has his way, all of his fast food places will be robotic automation. Pudzer was the first Labor Secretary appointee of Trump , hypocrite and ridiculous old FOSSIL man. You can’t find an argument where you have a basis for any rational point….
            That’s your TEA Time old man.
            JUST COMPLAIN about anything and everything, and all’s Well that End’s well, right Gomer & idiot Goon for Trumpsski ?

          • Where do YOU WORK OLD MAN?
            What is your monthly paycheck now, complainer & MORON??

    • FYI pal. Medical physicians make MORE than $15 per hour , ok buddy ???
      It’s more like about $235 per hour, MORON…. WELL trained LAWYERS can get that over $200 an hour pay too.
      WHAT do you make , noodling do nothing Goon-a-tic?

      • sandraleesmith46

        That’s NOT what EDD said, or meant; and if you read it that way, more fool you. Burger flippers don’t “deserve” $15/hr either; and docs may CHARGE $235/hr, but that goes to pay the overhead for their offices, equipment and STAFF required to keep up with the regulations and paperwork, and then there’s the exorbitant malpractice insurance bill too. It doesn’t just go into his pocket.

        • Paulene Perry Dougherty

          Not to mention half of that gets ” disallowed” by the insurance company. Of course they factor that in when setting their fees

          • sandraleesmith46

            They have to, or shut the door, take down their shingle and go quietly into the night.

          • The only Healthcare “PAYMENT REFORM” that would work is for everyone to “PAY CASH” for any medical expense, from hospitals to doctor visits to drugs.
            WHO is on board with that idea, TEA Dim TWITS??

          • No. I “insist” you pay for me.

          • BUT OLD MAN Jaime, the Jewboy, I have never had anyone pay anything for “ME” , as in getting a freebie pal…
            HAVE you gotten FREE GOVERNMENT THINGS ever, OLD MAN & HYPOCRITE FOOL???

          • Your incessant childish antics only make you look less credible with every reply. People of higher education, don’t constantly insult others, but we can all tell you’re an upset liberal.

          • Your obviously young and hip to use such cool language as “derp”.
            In fact I had to fight autocorrect so I could type it.

          • You should learn the difference between “your” and “you’re” and use the right one.

          • I couldn’t be clearer I fight with autocorrect, but thanks for the correction.

          • But now that you say it “Your” is cool, because you own it.
            “Derp” is you.

          • So now I guess “BLAH” is the new cool.
            Consider this, you pretty much copy/paste quotes or links from the worst possible left wing misinformed sources you can find (and some are even excessively long and boring).
            This article is about the economic harm that taxes, and 15.00 dollar an hour salaries can do to business and the people who need jobs.
            You bring racism, The violence of this past weekend and other typical left wing “Whitey” so bad to the conversation.
            We’ve heard this same tripe since Trump was elected. This is the very essence of “BLAH”!
            Will your whining prevent baristas and burger flippers from being replaced by kiosks? No!
            Now don’t you even feel a little embarrassed?

          • Hmmmm… then you obviously have
            very little education yourself, eh?!
            LOLOL!!

          • Has my lack of derogatory commentary upset you?
            Is whiner an insult?

          • I’ve not noticed a lack of derogatory comments on your part.

          • Ok’should I be cool like you and reply “derp”?

          • Have you come to his defense because I call him liberal or upset?
            I can acknowledge that I’m conservative and proud of it, though I’m not a fan of Trump. I would have much preferred Ted Cruz or Ben Carson

          • Very good.
            Was “derp” just a phase?

          • Junior LOSER old MAN… read what I said again and reply to the simple question , IMBECILE ! ! !
            [I have never had anyone pay anything for “ME” , as in getting a freebie pal…
            HAVE you gotten FREE GOVERNMENT THINGS ever, OLD MAN & HYPOCRITE FOOL???]….
            Junior LOSER, tell me when you won’t be a Government BENEFITS SPONGE for life, OK PAL?

          • My father was a med tech, mother an R.N.
            I’ve met many people in the medical field and none of them quite mastered the eloquence of your speech.
            Very good indeed.

          • So, your family is of quite diverse political viewpoints OLD MAN?
            Why is it you only like people or their comments that share very similar deplorable viewpoints about society & government , OLD MAN & Troglodyte?

          • No.
            My family is grounded right of center politically.
            I like positive commentary sans the insults and will usually upvote them.
            Where others only wish to insult people, I might comment just to see how embarrassing they become.

          • I am a centrist and I don’t think you agree with me on anything….
            [“So, your family is of quite diverse political viewpoints?
            Why is it you only like people or their comments that share very similar deplorable viewpoints about society & government?]…..
            Answer the simple questions honestly RUBE.

          • The only Healthcare “PAYMENT REFORM” that would work is for everyone to “PAY CASH” for any medical expense, from hospitals to doctor visits to drugs.
            WHO is on board with that idea, TEA Dim TWITS????

          • Paulene Perry Dougherty

            I resent “tea dim twit” but Actually, I agree. Make medical payments fully tax deductible and paying cash makes sense. Judicious consumerism and competition would bring prices down and people taking responsibility for their own health would drive down demand. People could allso purchase catastrphic policies for extreme expenses.

          • Sorry because any “outside insurance” would negate the cost lowering effects of cash only.
            If drug companies have $150,000 per year drugs that nobody can buy in cash, what would happen to that drug price then?
            You are totally incapable of understanding the economics of healthcare, but KEEP trying Troglodyte….

          • Paulene Perry Dougherty

            Not quite Dipstick! You have no idea what Im capable of!As catastrophic insurance would be seldom used it would impact cash practice very little. As for the 150k per year drugs, the drug companies wouldnt be able to get high prices for them do something would have to give.

          • Here’s the news flash you have missed in the last 7 years Fraulein. Healthcare insurance will never go down in price as long as healthcare providers costs never go down. RIGHT?
            Healthcare costs have risen twice the rate of inflation for at least a century now. What do you have to make healthcare cost less, honey?
            GOOD luck with that simple problem, fantasy world Grn-MAW ! !

          • Paulene Perry Dougherty

            Less bureaucracy = lower costs

          • That should take care of the problem, if you are a denier of reality.
            GET the Senate to pass your Act of less bureaucracy..
            THEN, things will be great and at such lower costs , you won’t believe it, you moron…..

          • Dear “great one”. I think you need to practice self euthanasia.
            The world would be a better and nicer place. And you could stop your “carbon footprint”.
            Would be happy to help you with this “problem”
            Now, STFU and get back on your knees…

          • It’s fascinating to see how DISGUSTING right wing extremists and White Supremacists actually are now that they’re all out in the open! America is now a Nazi regime!

          • No. My country is still the best.
            No thanks at all to the left wing scum (such as you and lb and your ilk) who are doing ALL you can to try to destroy.
            Rules, laws and Constitution (which you cherry-pick) only apply to left’s “opponents”.
            obola, Clintons Kerry, holder, lynch and ALL of obolas appointees should be EXECUTED, Treason and sedition rampant during obolas (fraud 100%) terms.
            All the “LEFT”overs from obola and Clintons should be PURGED. And that 100% includes ALL MB operatives,
            The rest of the scum on left just NEED to be GONE.
            I suggest N.Korea , Venezuela, Cuba or some other socialist /Marxist “utopia”. Or anywhere ruled by sharia law.
            Take your scumbag whiney asses and get the f out of MY country.
            I would GLADLY kill every damn asshole aforementioned.

          • The following was written by fellow climate hawk Tom Perriello. Tom is a Charlottesville native and transitional justice expert who previously served as a congressman and peace negotiator. He recently ran for governor of Virginia as the first signatory of our No Fossil Fuel Money pledge, and we endorsed him. He is currently CEO of WinVirginia, an effort to flip the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017 and reduce the impact of money in American politics. — RL & Brad

            Kol —

            “Heil Trump,” the white supremacists chanted as they marched past me, turning my beloved hometown of Charlottesville, Virginia, into a rallying point for fascists, white supremacists, and their preppy enablers in the so-called alt-right. One side instigated the rally, dubbed it #UniteTheRight, and spent months escalating violent rhetoric. -President Donald Trump blamed “many sides.” They rallied to prevent the removal of a Confederate statue. Trump’s nationally televised response—“we must cherish our history”—was heard less as a dog whistle than as a bullhorn.

            Many of the racist ralliers intentionally invoked shocking images from our past, but if leaders, particularly on the right, do not quickly acknowledge the breadth and depth of this crisis, these new images may serve more as harbingers of our future. While Charlottesville played host, most of the pro-hate participants I interviewed came from across the mid-Atlantic and even Midwest. The man suspected of being the driver that plowed through anti-racist protesters was identified as a 20-year-old from Ohio. As for scope, while their numbers were only in the hundreds, a Republican candidate for Virginia governor this year who ran on a neo-Confederate platform and embraced these groups’ calls to protect the monuments came within 1 percent of winning the nomination this summer.

            While much can be debated about the event, a few items were very clear.

            First, this was unequivocally about race, about white tribalism. For the hundreds who rallied, many of them heavily armed, race was the defining issue. No one I talked to mentioned economic anxiety or trade policy. “You will not replace us” was the leading chant, and I was told multiple times that I was clearly a “Jew banker,” “faggot,” or “sellout to my people.” Their signs read “White Lives Matter” and said that Charlottesville’s black vice-mayor “Wes Bellamy is a Nigger.” I have met Trump voters who were not primarily motivated by race—these were not them.

            Second, these guys are enabled by Donald Trump and the politics of Steve Bannon. From the “Heil Trump” chants to the MAGA hats, the participants were clear with me that Trump had made this “our time.” After Trump tweeted that “We ALL must be united,” former KKK grand wizard David Duke responded, “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.” At this point, Trump appears more beholden to white supremacists than to Putin. Doubt it? Watch the sequence of events on Saturday, from Trump’s relatively presidential tweet condemning the hate, to David Duke’s overt challenge to Trump not to disown the white tribalists who elected him, to Trump’s moral disaster of a press conference in which he refused to condemn or even name white supremacy or domestic terrorism and apparently ad-libbed the most cowardly act of moral relativism of the modern era.

            Third, Saturday showed us a vision of a dystopian future that is the logical extension of our current gun laws. Not just gun ownership but AR-15s. Not just concealed carry but open carry. And not just the right to open carry even long guns but to dress in full military fatigues with accessories (earpieces, vests, insignias) to blur every line between legitimate law enforcement and a fully armed white nationalist militia. I have spent time in multiple conflict zones and still would not have known at a quick glance if bullets started flying which heavily armed men in camouflage and flak jackets represented law and order and which were armed terrorists. Donald Trump, who claims to be the hero of law enforcement, has issued no criticism of those who blur the line between public and private security forces, who blur the most sacred blue line between violence and force. Is there anything more vital of a commander in chief who claims to care about those who serve in uniform than to condemn those who fake the uniform?

            Fourth, it is probably easiest to just start referring to this entire coalition as the modern KKK. Yes, they are fascists and white supremacists, “alt-right” and actual KKK. Yes, they each had a distinct uniform, from the white polo–wearing preppy brigade to the cosplay crowd to the toy-soldier dress-up troops. But they are clearly working as a coordinated unit, just as the Klan did through various periods. The working class generally wore the robes and committed the ugly crimes, while the leadership wore the robes of judges and badges of sheriffs that wielded the real power of ensuring white male supremacy. This network is trying to cross-brand, and the result is an integrated network of white supremacists that collectively constitute the modern Klan.

            Finally, there will be a strong desire to avoid the proximate cause of this rally: how we remember the Civil War. Many moderates on both sides find it distasteful or “agitating” to consider how we memorialize that history. As someone who has worked on transitional justice efforts in a dozen countries, I can tell you that civilized countries have always made deliberate decisions about how to tell their history, who to memorialize, and how that becomes more accurate and informed over time. Do we honor history when we freeze in time a set of memorials largely born out of mythology, largely resurrected in the midst of desegregation (not the war), and largely based on an utterly debunked revisionist history of the Civil War? These critiques of renaming buildings and “protecting” statues are not historically accurate or intellectually honest. They are lazy attempts to avoid the difficult work of correcting the lingering effects of the Dunning School and the Lost Cause myth. It is a failure to understand the new Jim Crow laws that result. It is rendering invisible even today that the majority of human beings in Charlottesville and Albemarle County at the time of the Civil War were black, and it was black Union fighters who were the first to enter Richmond. What this three-month modern Klan campaign should teach those who passively support keeping these monuments is that they serve not as innocent icons of our past but political tools of hate and fear in our present.

            Saturday could be the anomaly or become the norm. This could be coming to a town near you, or our future could be defined by the many solidarity vigils being organized around the country. Our future will be determined by whether we speak honestly about the racial demagoguery of this White House, whether principled conservatives stop enabling the racist and authoritarian policies of the Trump administration, whether we restore the line between force and violence, and whether we have the moral and intellectual courage to engage honestly with our past.

            Langston Hughes famously said, “America never was America to me,/ And yet I swear this oath—/ America will be.” Saturday’s clash in Charlottesville may have lacked the poetry, but it offered the same prophetic challenge of those words. Previous generations sacrificed beyond measure to get us closer to that aspiration. Let’s be perfectly clear that there is only one good way for this story to end, and it isn’t with the the side of death or fear, of hate or of a nostalgia for a cult of racial injustice. It’s the only story there is to tell: of the America that will be.

          • Bless Tom Perriello my brother…

          • Yes, indeed!!

          • Like he said folks, it’s all economics, $15.00 dollar salaries and higher taxes on job providers. (sarcasm)

          • Your sexual fetishes don’t do it for me.

          • Your banality does nothing for me.

          • It keeps the pictures coming don’t it?

          • Figures you would pick some BS from this “source”..

          • Comedy Central’s links weren’t good enough today.

          • Sounds right..

          • Paulene Perry Dougherty

            I dont think so! I agree that any group supremacy is unacceptable, white, black or otherwise. However it is the leftists who follow the Nazi model

          • Donald Trump’s ex-wife: Trump kept book of Hitler’s speeches by bed …

            http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers...

            Sep 1, 2015 – According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald …

            Donald Trump ‘kept book of Adolf Hitler’s speeches in his bedside …

            http://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics

            Mar 20, 2017 – trump-1.jpg A friend of Donald Trump said he believed the businessman would find Hitler’s writings ‘interesting’ Jonathan Ernst/Reuters.

            Trump Echoed Hitler in His Speech Withdrawing From the Paris …

            https://www.thenation.com/…/trump-echoed-hitler-speech-withdrawing-paris-climate-…

            Jun 2, 2017 – President Trump announces that the United States is withdrawing from the Paris Accord, June 1, 2017. (Cheriss May / Sipa via AP Images) …

          • The following was written by fellow climate hawk Tom Perriello. Tom is a Charlottesville native and transitional justice expert who previously served as a congressman and peace negotiator. He recently ran for governor of Virginia as the first signatory of our No Fossil Fuel Money pledge, and we endorsed him. He is currently CEO of WinVirginia, an effort to flip the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017 and reduce the impact of money in American politics. — RL & Brad

            Kol —

            “Heil Trump,” the white supremacists chanted as they marched past me, turning my beloved hometown of Charlottesville, Virginia, into a rallying point for fascists, white supremacists, and their preppy enablers in the so-called alt-right. One side instigated the rally, dubbed it #UniteTheRight, and spent months escalating violent rhetoric. President Donald Trump blamed “many sides.” They rallied to prevent the removal of a Confederate statue. Trump’s nationally televised response—“we must cherish our history”—was heard less as a dog whistle than as a bullhorn.

            Many of the racist ralliers intentionally invoked shocking images from our past, but if leaders, particularly on the right, do not quickly acknowledge the breadth and depth of this crisis, these new images may serve more as harbingers of our future. While Charlottesville played host, most of the pro-hate participants I interviewed came from across the mid-Atlantic and even Midwest. The man suspected of being the driver that plowed through anti-racist protesters was identified as a 20-year-old from Ohio. As for scope, while their numbers were only in the hundreds, a Republican candidate for Virginia governor this year who ran on a neo-Confederate platform and embraced these groups’ calls to protect the monuments came within 1 percent of winning the nomination this summer.

            While much can be debated about the event, a few items were very clear.

            First, this was unequivocally about race, about white tribalism. For the hundreds who rallied, many of them heavily armed, race was the defining issue. No one I talked to mentioned economic anxiety or trade policy. “You will not replace us” was the leading chant, and I was told multiple times that I was clearly a “Jew banker,” “faggot,” or “sellout to my people.” Their signs read “White Lives Matter” and said that Charlottesville’s black vice-mayor “Wes Bellamy is a Nigger.” I have met Trump voters who were not primarily motivated by race—these were not them.

            Second, these guys are enabled by Donald Trump and the politics of Steve Bannon. From the “Heil Trump” chants to the MAGA hats, the participants were clear with me that Trump had made this “our time.” After Trump tweeted that “We ALL must be united,” former KKK grand wizard David Duke responded, “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists.” At this point, Trump appears more beholden to white supremacists than to Putin. Doubt it? Watch the sequence of events on Saturday, from Trump’s relatively presidential tweet condemning the hate, to David Duke’s overt challenge to Trump not to disown the white tribalists who elected him, to Trump’s moral disaster of a press conference in which he refused to condemn or even name white supremacy or domestic terrorism and apparently ad-libbed the most cowardly act of moral relativism of the modern era.

            Third, Saturday showed us a vision of a dystopian future that is the logical extension of our current gun laws. Not just gun ownership but AR-15s. Not just concealed carry but open carry. And not just the right to open carry even long guns but to dress in full military fatigues with accessories (earpieces, vests, insignias) to blur every line between legitimate law enforcement and a fully armed white nationalist militia. I have spent time in multiple conflict zones and still would not have known at a quick glance if bullets started flying which heavily armed men in camouflage and flak jackets represented law and order and which were armed terrorists. Donald Trump, who claims to be the hero of law enforcement, has issued no criticism of those who blur the line between public and private security forces, who blur the most sacred blue line between violence and force. Is there anything more vital of a commander in chief who claims to care about those who serve in uniform than to condemn those who fake the uniform?

            Fourth, it is probably easiest to just start referring to this entire coalition as the modern KKK. Yes, they are fascists and white supremacists, “alt-right” and actual KKK. Yes, they each had a distinct uniform, from the white polo–wearing preppy brigade to the cosplay crowd to the toy-soldier dress-up troops. But they are clearly working as a coordinated unit, just as the Klan did through various periods. The working class generally wore the robes and committed the ugly crimes, while the leadership wore the robes of judges and badges of sheriffs that wielded the real power of ensuring white male supremacy. This network is trying to cross-brand, and the result is an integrated network of white supremacists that collectively constitute the modern Klan.

            Finally, there will be a strong desire to avoid the proximate cause of this rally: how we remember the Civil War. Many moderates on both sides find it distasteful or “agitating” to consider how we memorialize that history. As someone who has worked on transitional justice efforts in a dozen countries, I can tell you that civilized countries have always made deliberate decisions about how to tell their history, who to memorialize, and how that becomes more accurate and informed over time. Do we honor history when we freeze in time a set of memorials largely born out of mythology, largely resurrected in the midst of desegregation (not the war), and largely based on an utterly debunked revisionist history of the Civil War? These critiques of renaming buildings and “protecting” statues are not historically accurate or intellectually honest. They are lazy attempts to avoid the difficult work of correcting the lingering effects of the Dunning School and the Lost Cause myth. It is a failure to understand the new Jim Crow laws that result. It is rendering invisible even today that the majority of human beings in Charlottesville and Albemarle County at the time of the Civil War were black, and it was black Union fighters who were the first to enter Richmond. What this three-month modern Klan campaign should teach those who passively support keeping these monuments is that they serve not as innocent icons of our past but political tools of hate and fear in our present.

            Saturday could be the anomaly or become the norm. This could be coming to a town near you, or our future could be defined by the many solidarity vigils being organized around the country. Our future will be determined by whether we speak honestly about the racial demagoguery of this White House, whether principled conservatives stop enabling the racist and authoritarian policies of the Trump administration, whether we restore the line between force and violence, and whether we have the moral and intellectual courage to engage honestly with our past.

            Langston Hughes famously said, “America never was America to me,/ And yet I swear this oath—/ America will be.” Saturday’s clash in Charlottesville may have lacked the poetry, but it offered the same prophetic challenge of those words. Previous generations sacrificed beyond measure to get us closer to that aspiration. Let’s be perfectly clear that there is only one good way for this story to end, and it isn’t with the the side of death or fear, of hate or of a nostalgia for a cult of racial injustice. It’s the only story there is to tell: of the America that will be.

          • Donald Trump using Adolf Hitler’s ‘Mein Kampf’ playbook, says world …

            http://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas

            Feb 8, 2017 – A leading expert on the Nazi party has said there are similarities between Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler. Both men “bluffed” their way into power, confounding an establishment that did not know what to do but normalise them, according to author Ron Rosenbaum. The Adolf Hitler ..

          • North Korea Says Trump Is Following Hitler’s Path and His ‘America …

            http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-trump-hitler-nazi-629379

            Jun 27, 2017 – North Korea’s state-run news agency has slammed President Donald Trump’s “America First” policies as being even more “ferocious and …

            North Korea Compares Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler – WSJ

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/north-korea-compares-trump-to-hitler-1498541392

            Jun 27, 2017 – North Korea’s state media described President Donald Trump’s “America First” policy as “Nazism in the 21st century,” and compared the …

            Trump and Hitler, Part 2 | HuffPost

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/trump-and-hitler-part-2_us_59919154e4b0ed1f464c0c5...

            20 hours ago – Trump and Hitler.” I wrote this piece almost two years ago. I saw the handwriting on the wall. It was crystal clear. But it wasn’t a popular …

            North Korea compares Donald Trump to Hitler in attack on ‘racist …

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk › News

            Jun 27, 2017 – Mr Trump’s “two-nation strategy” towards the Korean Peninsula is “based on Hitler’s dictatorial policies that separate people from their peers, …

            Donald Trump’s ex-wife: Trump kept book of Hitler’s speeches by bed …

            http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers...

            Sep 1, 2015 – According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald …

          • OLD MAN Jaime, the Jew, get yourself into Anger Management REHAB, ASAP, old man…
            YOU will kill somebody, the way you are headed, OLD psychosis MAN ! ! ! !

          • Some good points.

          • I am with you in several ways; We have been forced to buy something we did not need, did not want, and in many cases CAN NOT AFFORD!
            What should have been a reliable, effective and TRUL AFFODABLE became a mess as the efforts to push it through to make Obama happy became so screwed up the frames of the new law lost total sight of what was critical needs of the Ameriacn people.
            .
            The timing was at its worst also. Without regard to the HUGE number of people out of work and with no prospects of getting back to work, Obama care placed a huge burden on all of us; maybe the Democrats did not give that thought at the time – maybe they did not care!
            .
            Instead of doing something to get American workers back to work and being self reliant – the Obama Administration continued to import more and more legal immigrants and ignore the illegals immigrants that were working here – Obama and his administration turned their backs on the American workers thus leaving them to live of welfare and Obama care! !
            The majority of the American people are being forced to buy Obama care. When they make that payment they pay a little more than is needed to cover the medical expenses (what they and the insurance companies charge); the extra goes to cover costs the indigent cannot pay. Most of these were people who could not afford insurance and only went to doctors in emergency situations. That is not unusual, insurance companies have always done that. When you go to a hospital, you (or your insurance company is charged a little extra to cover the costs indigents and those who cannot pay the doctors and hospitals.
            I believe most people have accepted that and it has worked relatively well for years and years. BUT, rather than keep the American people FIRST AND FOREMOST in the minds of the party who forced Obama Care upon us; they allowed the Insurance companies to set/influence a lot of the polices. It was a master effort to expand the Democrats idea that everyone should have as much FREE in their life as possible (recall Bernie Sanders d Hillary Clintons promise) ; there is no real reason to work or attend to your own needs unless your desire is to join the wealthy class; just let the government take care of you and your family! Obama care became the law of he land – for the first time in history the American people had no say and were being forced to buy what we did not need, want or could afford.
            TIMING WAS BAD – In spite of millions and millions of Americans being out of work for long, drawn out periods of time (many loosing or already lost their homes and any means of earning wages and Obama upping the number of immigrants allowed to come here to work) those out of unemployment benefits could not afford to pay the Obama care costs – – they became eligible for free medical care – not just the emergency rooms as we have always done but all other medical care every other Obama care enrollee gets.
            That immediately added 30 million PLUS enrollees into the system that the rest of us were being forced to pay greater payments for.
            Today, when we hear changes to Obama care will drop millions of people off the insurance, we are hearing generally about those who have elected not to go back to work. They became accustomed to living without working, living off social support programs and under the table work and NOW with Obama Care – all without taking responsibility for themselves. Many have no choice – most do!
            Obama made it easy on them; chances are most were working at fairly low wages to start with and have found it better to do nothing and just let the tax payers care for them!

          • Paulene Perry Dougherty

            Right on! The timing was extrordinarly bad and I wouldnt be surprised if that was by design

          • Or better yet – start accepting the same or similar drugs from foreign manufacturers; there is no “good” reason why we have to pay the outrageiuos costs drug sores hit us up for. If there is a similar drug on the foreign market that has proved successful and of no greater potential for harm than a similar ones here doing the same thing we should have access to it. If the drug companies here can not compete then let the CEOs, investors and those getting wealthy off the alleged illnesses – then so be it; they can go broke!
            This country is being brain washed with medical advertising, threats of having our money stolen (Life Lock), Burglary’s, home invasions; expensive car repairs, cell phones that are more than six months old, makes a person afraid to even wake up I the morning!
            The new NASTY FOUR LETTER WORDS ARE – – Only and Just; only $19.99 a day, just $39.99 a month -, – ,-!

        • How many medical clinics and facilities have you worked in?
          I spent 35 years as a pharmacist , so I do know that of which you speak is pretty much poppycock & irrelevant.
          KEEP Working on GREAT new solutions for healthcare now, honey… I KNOW you will get there soon, idiot.

          • So. That explains a lot. In addition to ODing on obola juice and koolaid you also “self medicated”
            That explains your “shit for brains” outlooks.

          • SO, I know what a psychotic person sounds and writes like OLD MAN..
            GET psychiatric help, ASAP OLD GOAT ! ! !

        • Don’t waste your time trying to reason with lb. Just another “know it all and holier than thou” type scumbag agent of the left.

          • sandraleesmith46

            I’m not ; blocked him yesterday; but thanks for the tip. I give people a chance, and let them know they’re being inappropriate; if they don’t like it, that’s on them. That’s what that blocker is for in the upper right corner.

      • You really are quite the “special” one aren’t you. Ah the (far ?) left . So tolerant and good and understanding. You’se got to be proud of your selves. And you are just so damn smart and “enlightened”.
        Cannon fodder for you know who /what…?

        • TEA Potted lunatic, are you younger than 90 years old, OLD MAN?
          Wasn’t that “Bay of PIGS” CIA invasion of Cuba, something special, you old dikless prosthetic PRICKLES MORON ????

  10. Welcome to the liberal Western United States – WA, OR, CA. California – without a vote of the people – just jammed massive taxes on gasoline and cigarettes – a consumption tax that hurts the middle class and the poor and single mothers more than the rich. So this is your Democrat Party, people. The party for the little guy? The working man? I DON’T THINK SO.

    • sandraleesmith46

      Not in the past century or so…

      • Who are the Koch Industries brothers pal? How Much are they worth? Who is Sheldon Adelson? How much is he worth?

        WHEN Wall street embraces a “NYC Swindler guy” like Donald Trump & Family, don’t they expect their Wall street SWINDLING GAMES Will do real well for putting money in their FAT CAT pockets pal???? . . . …
        WHY is the DJIA at record levels now, OLD FOOL & GOAT lips?……

        • sandraleesmith46

          What you know about city governance isn’t even worth the time to type this; you’re blocked.

          • It’s an argument that is not worth continuing. Who makes TAX Law on the Federal level.
            Which Party has the most BIG BIZ interests, as represented by Lobbyists in Wash D.C.??
            “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
            What will the Party of the RICH -GOP Fat Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
            Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. Does that sound like TEA PARty “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY? ….

            WHAT is YOUR tax reform plan that will “help all of the avg Joe’s, small dollar taxpayers in the country LIZ Taylor jewelry lines? ……

  11. We have idiots at the helm! We really have failed liberal policy every where! God help our once great nation.

  12. let the city bleed their wealth away, that bastion of liberal stupidity is rotting under that guise of fairness.

    • You act like a total idiot. What for?

      • And you act like a liberal Toilet bug, a colon worm, a parasite begging for a hand out. We’re in the middle of a soft civil war, I cant wait for the hot war to start. The toilet bugs will scatter like rats on a burning ship.

        • You are MENTALLY ILL!

          GO FUCK YOURSELF, IDIOT

          • Well now, toilet bug, I can prove Im sane, you on the other hand, sound like a scorned toilet worm who cant find a gay mate or a military sex change that’ll elevate your social status.

          • You suffer from the disease of stupidity Hahahaha 😂!!!!!!!! I’m still waiting for that challenge, but then again you’re too much of a liberal coward to go through with it. One of your categories was Russian; History or you left it open for any other history. I chose the founding of the United States and The Constitution.
            TTFN mindless liberal drone!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • My CHALLENGE was specific and left NOTHING “open.”
            Hahahahahahahahaha! You’re an idiot and you know it!

          • Your so full of shit 💩 hahahaha 😂!!!!!! Here it is right straight from your post “5 Russian; History or” what did you mean by or? Ya pathetic moron you’re so stupid that you can’t bring forth a proper challenge. Hahahaha.
            I’ve got your number now you wait until the article is old enough that all the people that’s going to read it and the posts is already done. So you’re too much of an uneducated idiot that’s too stupid to take up the challenge. Wow!!!!!! You have a yellow streak running down your back a mile wide Hahahaha 😂.
            I’ve had my fun with you ya pathetic excuse for a subhuman cockroach.
            TTFN brainless wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • You should use some toilet paper to wipe your mouth.

          • I changed it to crap 💩 is that better for the witle baby liberal drone? Hahahaha 😂!!!!!!!!!
            So long brainless wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • You still act like an idiot. Why?

          • You suffer from SNOT running down your chin and dribbling all over your keyboard whenever you type your posts. Wipe yourself off and clean your keyboard! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

          • With every post that you do you keep on proving how much of a brainless idiot you are. I find your stupidity funny and it never ceases to amaze me Hahahaha 😂!!!!!!!!
            Time for you to prove yourself with your challenge ya brainless wonder. You’re afraid of being schooled by me, ya pathetic moron Hahahaha 😂 🤣!!!!!!!!
            TTFN brainless wonder!!!!!!

          • I gave you a list of topics. You refused the CHALLENGE to discuss any one of them because you don’t have enough education or brains to do so. Hee haw some more, donkey!

          • Have you ever heard the adage you cannot insult an idiot

          • I know, bit it’s so much fun to watch the come unhinged.

          • …”bit” it’s so much fun to watch “the” come unhinged. ????

            The way you write looks sort of UNHINGED! lolol

          • This is all you pathetic morons can do when you have nothing. Hahahaha 😂 🤣!!!!!!!!!! You’re too uneducated to take up your challenge, you’re scared that I’ll clean your clock with the category I chose.
            So long ya pathetic excuse for a subhuman cockroach!!!!!!!!!!!

    • It’s not really about fairness it’s about destroying the culture that’s all it’s about they could care less about any of the things they all claim to support that being the people in power on the left, they do have their allies on the right with them like McCain and McConnell and Ryan

    • It’s not about fairness it’s not about black or white it’s not about women or man it’s not about gay as him for the left it’s all about one thing destroying the culture and destroying the country that is exactly what it’s about. The Democrat party is totally ingrained in the destruction of this country and a portion of the Republican Party also. Go typing on your computer 45 goals of communism to take down the United States and tell me how many of them been accomplished

  13. It seems to me that Liberals think $ grows on tree, and for some reason, only a handful of people pick the most, and therefore they should have to surrender a good portion of it. You see, if one happens to read the book, The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt, (certainly not a conservative), one will see that today’s Liberals value fairness above all else. This is why they push for minimum wage laws that pay people in my estimation too much for what they do, taxing people who make what they consider to much, etc. Liberals really do think that millionaires are lucky at best, criminals at worst, and that everyone must have their fair share- whatever fair share means.

    • “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
      What will the Party of the RICH -GOP FAt Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
      Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. Does that sound like TEA Party “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY?

    • ..Complaining about taxes is akin to complaining about weather that you don’t like, TEA Time fools..
      COMPLAINING Never changed one thing in any debate on taxes, has it?
      WHAT does it cost to run society and then, PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE in taxes, Goons. That is how government works.
      FIND A better WAY, REALITY Deniers…..GO ahead fools…

      “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
      What will the Party of the RICH -GOP FAt Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
      Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. Does that sound like TEA Party “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY?

  14. Complaining about taxes is akin to complaining about weather that you don’t like, TEA Time fools..
    COMPLAINING Never changed one thing in any debate on taxes, has it?
    WHAT does it cost to run society and then, PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE in taxes, Goons. That is how government works.
    FIND A better WAY, REALITY Deniers…..GO ahead fools…

    “TAX reform” will never happen at the FED level is my main point.
    What will the Party of the RICH -GOP FAt Cats pass as tax reform for any average American?
    Trump’s sketchy little plan would create $1 trillion in annual deficits for at least a decade. Does that sound like TEA Party “SMALL government” initiatives to you dream world DENIERS of REALITY?

  15. More BS from the left Demwits!!

  16. This country was built on the person working hard and becoming successful now they’re being taxed for it because of all the lazy SOB’s that want to sit at home and someone else pay for there way instead of working for it!!!!

  17. sandraleesmith46

    Oh; the 16th Amendment redux! That was the argument for passing the Federal income tax too: “Only the very wealthy will pay”! RIGHT…and if you believe that one; we have some prime ocean front property in AZ to sell you too. Obviously Seattle’s city council needs some HARD lessons in economics and how that part of their job actually WORKS, or FAILS to work!

  18. Michael Dennewitz

    In the hands of ANY politician, EVERYTHING turns to shit!! 😣

  19. Seattle used to be a great city, but eventually, nobody will want to live there. It’s a shame.

  20. Governments of conservative cities in WA should offer to pay the moving expenses for people that want to relocate out of Seattle and seek employment in their cities. This raises the tax base for these citiesand defeats the liberals running Seattle.

    • sandraleesmith46

      Actually, they should ALL move out of WA, since Seattle runs the state too, and they’re still supporting that idiocy.

  21. Have any of these people running the city have any clue how business runs?? All the left seems to want is to redistribute wealth by taking money from those smart enough to earn it and give it to those unwilling to do the same!

    • sandraleesmith46

      To answer your question: NO!

      • in response to the LUNKhead ===>>>sandraleesmith46 •
        Who are the Koch Industries brothers pal? How Much are they worth? Who is Sheldon Adelson? How much is he worth?
        WHEN Wall street embraces a “NYC Swindler guy” like Donald Trump & Family, don’t they expect their Wall street SWINDLING GAMES Will do real well for putting money in their FAT CAT pockets pal???? . . . …
        WHY is the DJIA at record levels now, OLD FOOL & GOAT lips?………

  22. if they want to support bums and illegals in their city,,,i say,,let them do so. No need that the rest of the country follow along into bad financial maneuvers that we have no wish to be included in,,,,,

  23. this is not fairness some people actually work hard for their money and why should they have to support lazy people who are capable of working

    • in response to the LUNKhead ===>>>sandraleesmith46 •
      Who are the Koch Industries brothers pal? How Much are they worth? Who is Sheldon Adelson? How much is he worth?
      WHEN Wall street embraces a “NYC Swindler guy” like Donald Trump & Family, don’t they expect their Wall street SWINDLING GAMES Will do real well for putting money in their FAT CAT pockets pal???? . . . …
      WHY is the DJIA at record levels now, OLD FOOL & GOAT lips?…

  24. The only thing that’s going to happen if they do this, these people are going to move out and they’ll lose alot more of their tax base.

  25. lennybiased in response to the LUNKhead ===>>>sandraleesmith46 •
    Who are the Koch Industries brothers pal? How Much are they worth? Who is Sheldon Adelson? How much is he worth?
    WHEN Wall street embraces a “NYC Swindler guy” like Donald Trump & Family, don’t they expect their Wall street SWINDLING GAMES Will do real well for putting money in their FAT CAT pockets pal???? . . . …
    WHY is the DJIA at record levels now, OLD FOOL & GOAT lips?…

  26. I believe that the guesses one might make re how much ” good” this new scheme will do could be summed up as follows. Not Much

  27. With $15 an hour looming and take home wages for the low income citizen because of that and now trying to impose an income tax on the high-end earner we soon should see a new Chicago in the great Northwest, that is if the Seattle liber council gets away with it. I would move to a different state and take my cash with me for better representation. Well if you can call this representation.

  28. No one in this country should ever pay a greater percentage of tax than anyone else. If a person is a billionaire, they should not have to pay a higher percentage than other citizens. I thought the delusional democrats believed in fairness. Fairness in taxation should be achieved through the same percentage for everyone.

  29. Liberals say “I’m doing this for your own good. Stop complaining about making less money, I’m out there fighting to make the businesses pay higher wages! And I’m succeeding, so stop your complaining!”

  30. The Seattle mayor is another liberal jackass who thinks he can usurp the laws of the land and the authorities in charge just because he is a liberal leftist bully thwarted because his illegal hero was trashed in the national election. He should be removed from office and a human put in to replace him.

  31. It’s fascinating to see how DISGUSTING right wing extremists and White Supremacists actually are now that they’re all out in the open! America is now a Nazi regime!!

  32. The number of threats of violence by White Nationalists and personal attacks by out-of-control right wing extremists which we now are seeing in these public forums is truly amazing! And Donald Trump even supports it and refuses to acknowledge or condemn it. Adolf Hitler would be proud!

  33. Tax welfare – they tax social secutity up to 75% ,remember you and your job paid into ss , nobody but the taxpayer pays for welfare

  34. I live close to Seattle and our mayor is a liberal idiot and our governor is so stupid he has declared our largest city to be a sanctuary city putting us all at risk. Foolish libs. will bring nothing but riots to Seattle. We’ve already seen this last weekend after the riots in Va. and every May we experience riots.

  35. The liberal Left claim that new taxes are for fairness. Then why do they do everything to avoid paying them. They say 1 thing but do the opposite.

  36. Like other cities —- they want to chase people out and bring trash IN —— What the FFFF.

  37. “Hammer time !”

  38. WHAT?! There’s a “conservative” living in Seattle?

  39. SAD! When you want to tax the people, usually it’s a tax that all the people pay NOT just a select group!
    IF Obama didn’t just spend spend and spend and double the debt we wouldn’t be needing to tax anything!

  40. Trump just gave the most insane press conference about Charlottesville

    mashable.com/2017/08/…/donald-trump-press-conference-infrastructure-charlottesvill…

    2 hours ago – Donald Trump took questions from the press about the Charlottesville, Virginia, white supremacist and neo-Nazi rally over the weekend.

    Seth Meyers on Trump: A ‘Racist,’ ‘Insane,’ ‘Bitter Little Clown’

    http://www.newsweek.com/charlottesville-fallon-kimmel-meyers-reaction-650958

    9 hours ago – On Monday night, late-night hosts took the first opportunity they had to speak out against hate, and against Trump’s initial unwillingness to do …

  41. This could and should be said about alot of things that are being done right now for one reason or another. If democrats are involved don’t do it, its that simple.

  42. Is it just me, or is most of the commentary below not related to the article?

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