City of Seattle Offering “White Fragility” Classes on Taxpayer Dime

The city of Seattle is quickly becoming one of the country’s most pathetic liberal wastelands. If they’re not hiking the minimum wage beyond reason, they’re going through the garbage to fine residents who don’t obey every dot and tittle of the city’s recycling laws. And now, apparently finding themselves with too much money in the taxpayer coffers, the city is about to put on some “white fragility” classes to further the progressive cause.

The classes will be run by Robin DiAngelo, a (white) University of Washington professor who has dedicated her life to studying the theory of “whiteness.” Along the way, she coined the term “white fragility” to describe the way white people were paralyzed with fear at the thought of confronting America’s racial imbalances.

White fragility, according to DiAngelo, is “a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves.”

One of these white fragility classes was held on Aug. 17 and there will be another on September 7; unfortunately, it’s sold out, so…you’ll have to find something more fulfilling to do on that date. Throw rocks at your own mailbox, perhaps. Jam your toothbrush as far into your ear as possible. Well, you can come up with your own.

How is it possible that these liberals don’t see the irony of this “white privilege” movement in academia? All of these ludicrous social theories reek of the same kind of racial nonsense that supported slavery two centuries ago. The effort is not to bring people of color up; the goal is to bring whites down. By the time these idiots are done indoctrinating the next generation, everyone in the country will be too busy squabbling over this idiocy to actually contribute to society.

Then again, maybe that’s the point.


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  1. the Audacity of Absurdity……

  2. What the HELL?!?!? The liberal city of Seattle can’t find anything better to spend tax money on???!?

    • Oh, they can, but the won’t. The streets are in terrible shape in a lot of places in Seattle, but the won’t fix them. There are places with no sidewalks, but they won’t install them. They’d impose Chicago like gun restrictions, but the state’s firearm preemption law prohibits it… they tried it once but were shot down in court.

      • What the heck is wrong with the taxpayers? Need to show up at their city meetings!!

        • Democrats are Like CANCER they just keep spreading

          • No, when people get educated they become liberal. It’s a natural progression. Conservatives are regressives and are losing more and more power and control. Look at the mess that is your GOP. Such a joke.

            Conservativism needs to die along with the bigotry that infests your party.

          • You are a VERY SPECIAL kind of stupid. You need to check into a mental hospital and get deliberalized before your brain becomes completely paralyized.

          • No, it just means you’ve accepted the silly premise of your PT article.

          • No, it means that science has proven that liberals are more intelligent. Did you read it?

          • As a matter of fact, I did read it. I’m not in the habit of describing articles as “silly” that I haven’t read.

            However, it’s apparent that you have not read it. The author has wishful thinking that his notion is true. But “science has proven”?


          • It’s better to read his actual study, rather than the summation in the article:


          • An article in a magazine, any magazine, is just one position on any given issue. The fact that you accept this one as true is merely feeding your already over inflated ego.

          • There is so much ca-ca in your post its hard tto grasp the consummate arrogance of someone like you – unless of course I put you in proper context like matbe the third grade play ground.

            Tell ya what; I’LL play arrogant for a while and correct the ca-ca; not for your benefit – I really don’t give a flyin’ phuque if you die stupid – but to those who may wonder…

            “No, when people get indoctrinated with LIES they become liberal. It is an Unnatural progression contrary to the intrinsic natural rights of the individual human and more importantly the TIME PROVEN Truth! Truth that is self-evident to all but the blind dung beetles who gobble up all of the $hit-lies dumped upon them by the globalist elitist socialists.”
            Got news for you, dung beetle – Party Politics was not an American invention. George Washington warned us not to enter into party politics because it is divisive. The Democrat party was started by French Jacobin REVOLUTIONARY immigrants in the 1790s. Moreover the Republican party was started by Communists Horace Greeley and Charles Dana in the communist commune located at Ripon WI in the 1850s. So ragging on the imagined chaos the msm tries to whip up into discourse, that you you dung beetles gobble up like so much $hit, doesn’t really mean much to those who stand upon our First Principles. The leadership of both parties are world socialists – on the one hand Lenin Communists and on the other Trotsky communists. BTW they both HATE Trump because he isn’t one of THEM.
            And finally, your last judgment is full of hatred and bigotry!! Ideology not withstanding what makes you any different from any conservative you wish to see dead? What? Does your blood glow in the dark or something?

          • There are so many grammatical and spelling errors in your post that I didn’t bother to read it. One skim was all I needed to know. It’s not worth reading.

          • Arrogance! None of what I said was meant for you anyway – those who have ears will hear and that is purpose.

          • THANK YOU

          • MSM = men who have sex with men.

            Is that what you meant?

          • It must really suck being an ignorant motherf*cker I bet your parents raised you to be a coward Grow up Skippy learn to think on your own Not what the government tell you to think You live in a giant parasite infested shithole

          • You’re the one who is a brainwashed rightwing sheep. Did the Koch brothers pay you to make that comment?
            My parents did indoctrinate me in the heterosexual lifestyle and Evangelical Christianity. Neither stuck.

          • Did George Soros or Media Matters pay you to troll and make such ignorant commentary?
            It must suck to be you!

          • I love being me, thanks. You would too.

            Did the Koch brothers pay you to make that comment? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.

          • That is why you are a Godless parasite! A typical soul less Demonrat

          • Why are you a racist bigot?

          • Please explain your determination of racism I can hardly wait I also own lots of firearms what does that make me???

          • Owning a gun is immoral- period.
            Racism is the nonsense we’ve heard from your side regarding Obama for the last seven years. It’s getting old. Racist is what I hear from your side regarding Black Lives Matter.

          • Owning a Gun is a Second amendment Right And Black Lives Splatter is a terrorist organization Racism is made up by you Racist Lying PARASITES go back to your safe space snowflake And borok o-buckwheat is an african born usurper squatting in the white House The last 71/2 years have been he ll on earth can’t wait for TRUMP to nullify all these fake executive requests cause the Coward GOP will not TRUMP will he has a phone and pen TOO OOPS!!! You Libtards sure are DUMB

          • BLM is trying to end violence based on racism. I fully support their ideal.

            I’m sorry that research shows that we liberals are more intelligent than you.

          • We liberals have a soul, which is why we support the rights of women, gays, blacks and immigrants. We don’t hate Muslims.

          • I only hate Cats they are the most vile disgusting varmints on planet earth right next to democrats&Muzscums By the way Muzscums eat cats LMFAO!!

          • You might be encouraged to know that Christians and Hindus eat dog. When my husband and I were in Indonesia, we were warned to avoid a certain item in the menu, which was dog meat. Muslims actually won’t eat it because they say it is unclean.

          • Obuckwheat eats. Dog he also eats s hit cats taste like chicken

          • You’re too stupid to even talk to. You make conservatives look even worse, and I didn’t think that was possible.

          • I have nothing to do with conservatives or Demonrats I’ am Independent I do not believe any Lying politician So you go ahead and live in Make believe world A safe world is a world with Guns Maybe you can have Dinner with an ISIS Killer they only use Machetes

          • In 2009, the University of Pennsylvania conducted a study of over nearly 700 unique shootings and came to one very important conclusion: those carrying guns are 4.2 times more likely to be killed during an attack than those who are unarmed. It was a baffling conclusion that flew in the face of any basic logic — wouldn’t having a sidearm actually prevent an intruder or an assailant from hurting you first?

            Apparently not. According to Prof. Charles Branas, who authored the study, although the number may have had something to do with the type of person carrying a gun (in this case, a portion of those toting a firearm had criminal histories), it was far more likely that the person carrying the firearm would overreact or fall victim to a skewed sense of entitlement — or perhaps they would simply venture into areas where they normally wouldn’t. Either way, said Branas, the numbers didn’t lie. Packing heat actually increased your chances of bodily harm.

          • The only people who believe LIBTARD professors are Other LIBTARDS Especially Yankee Libtards they are the Moat Ignorant !GUNS Don’t Kill. People Kill I can leave a weapon on my coffee it will never Kill anybody in a Hundred Years Sorry Libtard Try again

          • Sorry, dumbass, guns don’t protect anyone. You are four times more likely to die by gunshot.

            Be my guest.

          • Ha ha ha ha ha idiot I was trained by the United States Government How to kill and handle a weapon it is called The United States Marine Corp The biggest killing machine on earth bar none If nor for the military you would ne speaking Japanese LMFAO YOU COWARD moron

          • Figures you’re in the military. Not smart enough to get into college?

            Got it.

          • College is for Coward Pu**ies like you who are to afraid to fight for there country Next time some one enters your home and rape and kills both of you You can thank God you did not have a weapon Dumb F*%ks like you die every day One less pieceofshit on the planet Got It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • The word you wanted was their.

            Maybe you should have gone to skool?

          • Did you know cats are good target practice??

          • Did you know that conservatives are morons?

          • You fear education.
            You fear people.
            You fear Muslims.
            Is there anything you’re not afraid of, coward?

          • NOPE Fear is for cowards like you. Self preservation is my goal for myself and my Family maybe you should try living in Chicago for a week They have the Strictest guns laws in the Country besides DC Both 1st and 2nd respectively and they have the highest gun murders They do not allow Guns How is that workin out???????????????????????????????

          • Cowards own guns. Real men don’t need them.

          • Tell that to the Thousands of Veterans from WW2 they will laugh in you face if not for their sacrifices you would not be wasting good oxygen You coward parasite

          • Cowards are afraid of Guns such as yourself an unreasonable fear You should go to the range it is good for you

          • Guns don’t provide protection.
            I have no fear of guns. I won’t have them around. Nothing to fear. You need to fear them more than me. I’ve been held at gunpoint in a Manhattan robbery. I laughed at the moron.

          • Typical Yankee libtard

          • I’m not a Yankee. I lived in New York for 15 years. Now San Francisco.

            Typical braindead Texas hick.

          • San Fran?? Americas CESSPOOL the land of fruits and nuts and illegals LMFAO

          • Everyone wants to live here for a reason:
            Ocean, mountains, redwood forest, world class opera, symphony, museums, best restaurants.

            Median house prices are 1.2 million dollars. Studio apartments rent for $3500.

            You couldn’t afford to live here and we have a city ordance against conservatives. You’re not welcome here.

          • San Fran is a magottinfested sewer who in their right mind would pay 3500 a month for a shoe box with mentally ill neighbors I live on 85 acres in a 5 bedroom 4 bathroom 3200 Sq ft house and 3car garage and a barn for the horses and equipment Last nite I noticed mexifornia is burning down Great news

          • Barn and horses?
            That says it all. Land is cheap where you love because nobody wants to live there/

          • I would not pay the kind of money you a ssholes on property only idiots would

          • Don’t worry, you couldn’t afford it and we wouldn’t want you here.

          • Can you walk to the opera, symphony, world class museums and restaurants, as I can?
            Hell no! You have to drive thirty minutes just to get to Walmart!


          • Do you wipe your a ss with one hand or 2?? or better yet you probably are to Lazy

          • Too

            Do you lick your hand after you wipe your butt with it?

          • You’re already on the range. Texas is nothing but a big range.

          • Home Home on the range Nothing like it

          • Stay there.

            Texass sucks. I’ve been in Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio, Austin, Lubbock, College Station, Galveston, Houston, etc. they were all hellholes and I wouldn’t live in any of them.

          • TEXAS has no use for whining A ssholes rhe feeling is mutual San Fran is a liberal insane S hithole

          • The US has no use for Texas. You’re a drain on our economy and socially backwards. The rest of the country hates you.

          • If not for TEXAS Oil producers you a ssholes would be dead

          • Texas provides nothing but idiots.

          • I’ve been to Japan five times. The police do not carry guns. Their national gun death rate is less than 100. I want their system here. Too bad they didn’t win the war.

          • I suggest you move to Japan Skippy The brits don’t don’t carry guns either you how the Slaughter there is going maybe visit for awhile dodge some gun fire from the local terrorist get a real feel for Death might help you overcome Gun phobia before it is to late

          • The Brits are not having slaughter, you moron.

          • tell that to the people that were killed by Isis

          • Were you born stupid, or is it your lifestyle choice?

          • They used to not allow stupid people in the Military Back in the day But O-Shitstain perverted it now its a joke maybe you should consider they roast marsh mellows and play games

          • I get to travel the globe on other people’s dime. I don’t need to have a gun at my head to see the world.

          • Perhaps you can take taxpayers Dime and move elsewhere

          • Perhaps not.
            I’m one of the one percenters who’s lived in America’s most desirable and expensive cities. I’ve lived in New York, Minnesota, Ohio and the Virgin Islands. None of them compare to SF.

          • San Fran is the Modern Sodom & Gomorohha a regular parasite Pit

          • San Francisco is the most beautiful and desirable city in America.

          • About as desirable as Iran

          • Iran is quite beautiful and my husband and I have plans to go for a visit with my Iranian student as our guide.

          • Wouldn’t it be nice if you, your husband (M or F?) and your plaything went to Iran and stayed there. Would improve the IQ level in both places.

          • Wouldn’t be nice if you took your magic underwear to another country and stayed there?

          • A husband is a married male.

            A wife is a married female.
            When two men marry each other they are husbands. When two women get married they are wives. It’s pretty easy to understand. Ask your ward leader.

          • Good I hear they are Killing Americans better be scared they have GUNS

          • In the Middle East countries, the governments usually prefer to set strict rules and regulations for the possession of arms. The ownership of handguns and rifles is mostly forbidden in the regional countries. In a 2007 book titled “Small Arms Survey 2007: Guns and the City” published by the Cambridge University Press, it was indicated that only 3,500,000 Iranian civilians possess guns and the rate of private gun ownership in Iran is 7.32 firearms per 100 people. Iran has a population of about 75 million people. According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, the annual homicides by any means, including firearms totaled 2,215 in 2009. The same figure for the United States was 15,241 in 2009.

            According to the 2007 Small Arms Survey, the United States is the first country in the world in the ranking of guns per 100 residents. Of the Middle East nations, Yemen is the third country, Saudi Arabia is 6th, Iraq is 7th, Oman is 17th, Bahrain and Kuwait share the 18th place, United Arab Emirates is 24th, Qatar is 31st, Iran is 79th and Egypt is 115th. Tunisia is the 178th nation and it’s said that the imposition of strict rules of gun ownership by the deposed President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali had immensely restricted the civilians’ access to arms. The 2007 survey reported that only 9,000 Tunisian citizens possessed guns.

          • I don’t really give a S hit I just pointed out the obvious Even the state Dept is advising Americans to Stay away By all means be my guest 2 fewer A ssholes in America is always a good thing happy hunting!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • You’re a coward. My husband and I have traveled in dangerous places before and aren’t afraid. We don’t carry guns. Only cowards carry guns.

          • Remember when Gunfire breaks out serpentine That means zig zag while running for your life maybe you can out run it but I doubt it Have Fun!!

          • Just remember that if you have an intruder in your house you are eight times more likely to be harmed by your gun than helped. Guns don’t provide protection.

          • Like i said I live on 85 acres the driveway is 1/4 mile long Nothing enters my property without me knowing If they do and the Dobermans don’ get em I surely will cause i LOVE My Guns Make believe does not provide protection either does Surrender

          • You’ll be another statistic. Gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot.

            You sound paranoid, cowardly and insane. It’s good that you live in an isolated area and nobody has to put up with your insanity.

          • Take 30 seconds out of your pathetic life and go to Fox Enjoy now

          • Unlike you I actually have a life. I also get to travel the globe and be paid for it. You’ve never been anywhere hat a gun wasn’t pointed at you.

          • I have Like minded neighbors we barbecue every couple of weeks We also watch over each others Property We know who belongs out here and who don’t. we don’t even need the cops We invite them to eat with us when we barbecue it is pretty awesome LMFAO!!

          • No thanks. I’ve had Texass BBQ and it sucks.

          • Cowardly really?? tell that to all the DEAD Gooks we left in Nam i’am sure they will appreciate it Oh wait they are DEAD OOPS

          • You’re dead. The life you lead is nothing short of death, torture on earth.

          • How long does it take you to drive to Walmart? 45 minutes? I can walk to the opera and symphony in eight minutes. Five minutes to a 24 hour grocery store. Three gyms wirhin twenty minute’s walk. Countless restaurants of every variety, museums and cultural sites. You live in hell. I live in paradise.

          • I do not shop walmart Who gives a s hit about symphony I can sit on back porch and listen to coyotes crickets and Owls even Bull frogs in the pond why would I bore myself with other Self serving A ssholes I don’t need a gym I can move a hundred bales of hay in a couple hours and don’t pay membership dues like you Losers I don’t even walk to my mailbox I drive 1 ton Dually Diesel with the AC on high cause it is hot But just remember when the power goes out where you live cause of an EMP attack you people will be dead in a week or Less No food no water no nothing it will be like fort apache the Bronx or thunderdome Me I just fire up the 45KW generator kick back and have a beer and watch Mexifornia slip in Oblivion And Not to worry I can kill and eat deer or a couple Cows Plenty of food So Libtard enjoy your self serving NOTHINGNESS I got room for my entire family you ain’t got S hit LMFAO

          • I really pity you. What a horrible life you lead. Your loneliness reminds me of when I lived in the Virgin Islands and heard crickets and seabirds instead of a symphony orchestra.

            No wonder you’re mentally ill. It’s all making sense. You live in a hellhole in hot weather.
            Poor dear….

          • Lonely ?? You really are a dumba ss i have 4 grown college graduated Children 3 Boys one girl And 12 grandchildren some of whom help me run the tractor So enjoy your pathetic selfish look at me life. and die alone in some foreign third world country LMFAO Adios sunshine Friday nite is Poker nite Oh wait Libtards don’t play poker sorry

          • Yes you’re lonely. You live where there is zero culture and no restaurants, except McDonald’s. I get why you are bored with life. This is what my views was like from my balcony:


          • I won’t be dying alone. I have a wonderful husband and multi-cultural and national friends. I have close friends in Australia, Argentina, Singapore, the Netherlands and London. Yes, I visit often.

          • Just remember I live in a city that is always cool. We don’t need air conditioning nor heaters. It’s always in the 60s. Plus I have culture within reach and world class restaurants.

            What a loser you are. So sad…..

          • Culture LOL Since when is Mickey Dees culture I don’t really care what the temp is It the COMPANY that counts So shove your thumb back up your A ss and Enjoy SEE Ya never

          • That’s just it, you have hicks for company. I have people from all over the world, who speak different languages. Your life sucks.
            This is the nude beach I used to visit every day. It’s one of the top ten beaches in the world and has gay sex going on constantly.


          • McDonald’s is the closest thing to a restaurant you’ll ever experience.

            This is my view today:

          • Don’t worry, there is no chance in hell I would live anywhere near your hellhole. I don’t even enjoy visiting there during the holidays. Can’t wait to leave and get back to culture.

          • Talking to you makes me very grateful for what I have . Your life sounds miserable. Hot weather. Uneducated family and friends. No culture. No restaurants. Boring scenery. No ocean, no mountains, no redwood forests. No gyms. No swimming pool, sauna, steamroom (with hot man on man action). No opera, no symphony, no supermarkets. No foreign language speakers. No airports.

            Why don’t you just kill yourself and get it over with?

          • Let’s see, by the time it takes you to walk to your mailbox my husband and I can walk to three Japanese restaurants, three or four Chinese, Italian, two Brazilian, seafood, Thai, Mexican and Middle Eastern food.

            What a horrifically boring life you lead in Loserville, Texass. You are to be pitied.

          • Where do you get toilet paper?

          • Time to step in again nobrains. When you have an hour or so take time to tease out the contributing factors in your insidious comment. That is if you have an objective bone in your entire body. Statistics like this are descriptive, only. The do not offer cause and effect conditions and are one tiny step above a survey of attitudes, or voting preferences. I’m not going to help you with it but any first year college student taking statistics can see how you skew your figures to meet your personal bias. Conclusion: you have wasted half a page proving how juvenile your grasp of data is.

          • Too bad Americans are ten times more likely to die by gunshot. Statistics aren’t a liberal plot.

            Americans are 10 times more likely to be killed by guns than people in other developed countries, a new study finds.

            Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the United States’ gun-related murder rate is 25 times higher. And, even though the United States’ suicide rate is similar to other countries, the nation’s gun-related suicide rate is eight times higher than other high-income countries, researchers said.

            The study was published online Feb. 1 in The American Journal of Medicine.

            “Overall, our results show that the U.S., which has the most firearms per capita in the world, suffers disproportionately from firearms compared with other high-income countries,” said study author Erin Grinshteyn, an assistant professor at the School of Community Health Science at the University of Nevada-Reno. “These results are consistent with the hypothesis that our firearms are killing us rather than protecting us,” she said in a journal news release.

          • Replying to your brain lockup and the same comments over and over; same BS different flies.

          • No brain lockup, just facts:


            Shoot yourself now. Make the world a better place.

          • You’re losing it, No Brain. Go to your therapist and demand chlorpromazine or related anti psychotic drug. You’ll function like new.

          • I don’t believe in an imaginary Heavenly Father. You do. I’m not the one who needs drugs.

          • Dysfunctional, delusional, and depressed. The 3-Ds of liberalism, and you show them perfectly. You do need drugs, your atheism isn’t productive.

          • Your Heavenly Father just texted me and told me to tell you to shut up.

          • Religion: Belief that a god exists

            Delusion: A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.

            Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness

            Therefore: Religious people are mentally ill.

          • In 2009, the University of Pennsylvania conducted a study of over nearly 700 unique shootings and came to one very important conclusion: those carrying guns are 4.2 times more likely to be killed during an attack than those who are unarmed. It was a baffling conclusion that flew in the face of any basic logic — wouldn’t having a sidearm actually prevent an intruder or an assailant from hurting you first?
            Apparently not. According to Prof. Charles Branas, who authored the study, although the number may have had something to do with the type of person carrying a gun (in this case, a portion of those toting a firearm had criminal histories), it was far more likely that the person carrying the firearm would overreact or fall victim to a skewed sense of entitlement — or perhaps they would simply venture into areas where they normally wouldn’t. Either way, said Branas, the numbers didn’t lie. Packing heat actually increased your chances of bodily harm.

          • You’re the last one who should be talking about brain lockup. You belong to a wacky religious cult that most Christians reject outright. Did you about this?

            This is bad news for you. The more religious you are the lower your IQ:


            I’m sorry to break it to you, but it is a well established fact that those with higher education and intelligence are more likely to reject religion. If you believe in god, you are more likely to be less intelligent than those of us who do not believe:

            A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades
            has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than
            non-believers. A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies.

            According to the studyentitled, ‘The Relation Between Intelligence and Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations’, published in the ‘Personality and Social Psychology Review’, even during early years the more intelligent a child is the more likely it would be to turn away from religion.


            Here’s proof that you are wrong. Low education level usually goes hand in hand with a tendency to be religious:


          • “The NRA has convinced people that a home with a gun is safer than one without a gun. That is a lie. Not even close, and the odds are about 8-to-1 that if someone does get hurt with that gun, it’s not going to be a bad guy. It’s going to be the owner or a friend or family member.”
            Tom Arnold, whose 24 year old nephew killed himself with his own gun.

          • The National Rifle Association maintains a blog called The Armed Citizen, which highlights defensive gun use. The latest entry, from April 9, describes three incidents: Two from 2013 and one archival example from 1969. It’s not hard to see what the NRA’s getting at, but just in case, a sidebar on the site states: “Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that the presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances.” In other words, as Wayne LaPierre put it after Newtown, “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

            That’s almost as catchy as “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” The problem is: The 2 million figure — often inflated to 2.5 million in N.R.A. literature — is bogus. Defensive gun use is actually quite rare.

            A new paper from the Violence Policy Center states that “for the five-year period 2007 through 2011, the total number of self-protective behaviors involving a firearm by victims of attempted or completed violent crimes or property crimes totaled only 338,700.” That comes to an annual average of 67,740 — not nothing, but nowhere near the N.R.A.’s 2 million or 2.5 million.

            Readers can judge for themselves whether the V.P.C. or the N.R.A. is likely to have better numbers. The V.P.C. used data from the National Crime Victimization Survey, conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. The N.R.A.’s estimate is the result of a telephone survey conducted by a Florida State University criminologist.

            The V.P.C. also found that in 2010 “there were only 230 justifiable homicides involving a private citizen using a firearm” reported to the F.B.I.’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program. Compare that with the number of criminal gun homicides in the same year: 8,275. (That’s not counting gun suicides or unintentional shootings.) Or compare it with the number of Americans killed by guns since Newtown: 3,458.

            As the V.P.C. paper states, “guns are rarely used to kill criminals or stop crimes.”

          • You sure do quote a bunch of useless bulls hit talking points most of you libtardss do cause you can’t think for yourself

          • I’m sorry the NRA made you a brainwashed sheep. Statistics aren’t a liberal plot. They’re just facts.

          • Shoot yourself now. Make the world a better place.

          • You over educated Morons are Wasting my Oxygen why not take your last gasp do us all a favor You ilk is the problem with this country You and the rest of you Commie Cowards

          • Why do you conservatives capitalize words in the middle of a sentence? It’s not appropriate in English, maybe for German.

            I provide ten thousand times more benefit to society than you do. Killing people isn’t making the world a better place.

          • Just to Piss off anal retentive A ssholes like you!!! As a matter of fact In your honor I am gonna go buy 2 new Guns tomorrow Cause the world is a dangerous place with crazy people around running around thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • You are four times more likely than me to die by gunshot.

            Buy ten guns, please.

          • 10 LMFAO I already own about 40 I collect them cause when obama wants to get rid of em I don’t have to worry i got plenty There are a lot of dangerous people out there You can never be to Prepared You should try It cause throwing a Rolex at a burglar ain’t gonna stop him

          • Trump just texted me and told me to tell you to kill yourself ASAP. Hurry, it’s a matter of great importance.

          • You should vote for him he will keep you alive Hillary won’t

          • Trump wants to build concentration camps for Muslims.

          • No he does not why waste the Money send them back where they belong

          • Many of my university students are wonderful Muslims.

          • Yep until they slit your throat Sure thing

          • Nope. More than one Muslim attended my gay wedding and are very supportive.
            More Muslims support gay marriage than Evangelicals:


          • Blogs are written by like minded morons probably the same morons you teach LMFAO

          • Stats don’t lie. More American Muslims support gay marriage than Evangelicals.

          • Is that why they kill them by throwing them off buildings??? LMFAO!!

          • That’s ISiS, which has nothing to do with Islam. They also behead Christians, which makes me laugh so hard!

          • Hillary is coming for your guns. Build your bunker now. Store up lots of Kool-Aid.

          • Hillary will be dead in 2 months if she gets any fatter she is gonna explode Or have a massive stroke Either one works for me

          • She’ll take your guns first.

            Be prepared.

          • Nothing to worry about myself and 3 million other TEXANS will not tolerate yankee invaders If they want them they are gonna have to take em Not gonna happen Enjoy the dream Libtard

          • Texas needs to leave civilized society yesterday.

          • TEXAS is the only Civilized society left in AMERICA Libtard

          • Texass is a hellhole. It’s an ugly state and the people are backwards and ignorant. My husband grew up on Houston and hates Texass.

          • If you promise to shoot yourself in the head I’ll buy the ammo.

          • I got plenty of ammo. No point in owning a weapon without ammo Libtard

          • Don’t believe everything you think, darling.

          • I believe statistics. It’s a liberal plot to destroy you.

          • You may be untested in knowing I’m a concert pianist, who plays only classical music. I’m also a university professor.

            I’m sorry you’re brain damaged. That’s the only possibility to explain why you’re a conservative.

            Guns don’t provide protection. You should know this.

          • You may be interested in knowing I could give a rat’s ass what you do as a commie sympathizer in love with a fat, aging, sick presidential candidate. I do care that you presume to be intelligent when, in fact, you act like a sorry little pock faced juvenile delinquent boasting a vicarious love affair with the wicked witch of DC.

          • You may be interested in knowing that you’re an old bigot and your Mormon values are dying out. You’re a joke. Trump is your Hitler hero. Bow down.

          • Are you a Moron, oops, I meant Mornon? Where is Dixie State?

          • Do your grandchildren know you’re a racist? I bet they’re ashamed of you.

          • The soul you speak about is spelled “sole”, as in only one, or the bottom of a foot or the inside of a shoe. Typical commie trying to play smart, aren’t you?

          • Too bad research shows that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives. Thanks for confirming.


          • I have a Ph D, and four published books.

            You claim to be a university professor. I’ve never met a conservative college professor. Not a one…. We have better sense than that.
            Since when does liberal make one a commie?

            You’re a stupid man. Shoot yourself.

          • Supporting the rights of gays, women and Muslims makes one a commie? Do you live in Oklahoma?

          • Time has come for you to change your post name; NOBRAINS. That more accurately describes your muslim sympathizing, Hildy humping lifestyle.

          • I get that you hate Muslims, women, gays, blacks and anyone who isn’t like you. Why don’t you leave America? You’re not wanted here.

          • No, you want to assume that, nobrains. You use the typical liberal logic of piling everything in a neat little pile then labeling the pile with a adjective that best suits your agenda. You don’t have a clue beyond the fact that yes, at present, I have absolutely no use for muslims, especially in this country. When you can cite irrevocable fact that non-terroristic muslims are standing up and supporting non-violence and the American way of life, including honoring the flag, the constitution, and laws, on any level, then post it post-haste and let me review your endeavors. As for women; you seem to suggest that Hildy is a woman which is a gross misinterpretation of the term woman. She is not a what, she is more of a thing. Now don’t wet yourself during your childish tantrum, go to work and find some facts.

          • America has no place for Mormons.

            Get out.

          • Make me you spineless, whiny little wimp. You better hope Hildy has a long apron so you can blow your nose, wipe your butt, and hide behind it. BOOOO!! There you go wetting yourself when frightened.

          • Get out of my country, bigot. Your Mormon values don’t belong here.

          • Mormons are the most hated group in America. Nobody wants you here. That’s why you live in a compound in Utah.

          • Joseph Smith was a child molester and wife beater.

          • More American Muslims support gay marriage than Evangelicals. It was your cult that paid for Prop 8, which was a flop.
            Get out of my country. Mormons have no place here.


          • A Turkish Muslim woman attended my gay marriage. I have several Muslims who are students that support gay rights. Your cult had no business fighting against the civil rights of gays. You’re un–American. Mormons don’t belong here. Leave/

          • I should have picked up on it earlier. A tinkerbelle. How simply oozy of you.

          • I picked up on you a long time ago:

            1 you hate Muslims, blacks, gays, women and immigrants
            2 you belong to a wacky religious cult that dengrates women, blacks, gays and immigrants.
            3 the above qualifications make you a prime candidate for a conservative Republican.

            You’re an anti-American.

          • Oh my, you are a big mouth who nobody likes:

            Retired emeritus psychology professor Nolan Ashman called for Larsen-Rife’s resignation in a letter to the editor of The Spectrum this week, blasting her as “greatly ignorant” of the school’s history.

            “I just don’t think she’s a member of the team,” Ashman, 80, said by phone Wednesday. “I think she would be happier if she went someplace that she felt more comfortable.”

            Larsen-Rife has said she respects and understands the region’s identity, but that recent events have changed things. She also said she is “shocked” by Ashman’s “lack of support for academic freedom and the First Amendment rights that are central to dialogue at a public institution of higher education.”

            Free speech or not, opponents such as Ashman contend the moniker honors the region’s history and the Mormon pioneers who carved out an existence in the unforgiving desert. The area shared little with the slave-owning South, they say, aside from a temporary attempt to coax cotton from the red, rocky dirt.

          • Don’t get your magic panties in a bunch!

          • Dear reader; Nobrains is some kind of humanoid of the female type. She loves thongs. Her favorite song is; “Thongs for the Mammaries.”

          • I’m male. I have a husband- duh!
            My favorite song is the opera Parsifal by Wagner.

          • Says the moron spouting bigoted nonsense. It’s really quite amazing that you don’t see your own glaring hypocrisy. Liberals never do. They’re to busy patting themselves on the back for their ‘tolerance’ and ‘compassion’ while screaming other people down and acting like Nazi’s. Embarrassing.

          • I’m glad you have formed an opinion. Now if only you had the brains to comprehend what it was and how it impacts humanity. Where did you get the “natural progression” crap? You have to make it up because there isn’t an iota of scientific support for such a lame-brained comment.

        • Just who do you think put the commie assholes in power? Face it. Seattle is an unmericana Marxist enclave. Hereat place to despise of surplus nerve gas.

          OK, not PC but it’s the diein’ truth.

        • If they are as far gone as CA. Showing up at city meetings won’t solve a damn thing because they will do what they want anyway. Hence how we got here in the first place.

      • Just what is this preemption law ??????

        • In Washington State there is a law, RCW 9.41.290, State preemption:
          “The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality.”
          Ok, shooter9mm… got it now?

          • WOW!…that got my attention….I will be doing some remedial training here my man!…thanks for that heads up!

          • Glad to help. I try to keep up on the laws, rules, regulations, etc. in order to be able to know with a reasonable degree of certainty that I am carrying legally wherever I decide to go. There is a pamphlet published and updated annually, Traveler’s Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States by J. Scott Kappas, Esq., that is a good basic guide for those folks who travel with firearms. Massad Ayoob also authors some good books and articles on the subject. Molon Labe my friend.

          • Thanks for that title …will be looking for it first chance I get. I am covered with a permit to carry in Washington State and 31 others with the Utah permit. I’m also working on one for Oregon. That will be an accomplishment getting one of those as it is the hardest state in the union to get a permit to carry in. You have to know someone….and I do but it is still hard to get one of those in Oregon but we will see.

            Stay frosty Clay and practice situational awareness as much as possible. You never know where it is coming from or when it will arrive.

            Here is a story for you to consider in that light. This is a real one. I was on my way to his home to give him backup and rolled up as the shell casings were still almost bouncing on the street. My son is a LEO and told me that police were blown away by the slack he cut this man before he shot him. I would have opened fire the second I saw that rifle pointed at me. He has a nice little red furrow type mark under his right nipple the round came so close….it was a burn mark from an AR 15 round!….it just kissed his flesh as it tore through the shirt he was wearing!!!!

            Mark is one blessed Dude….let me tell you! Hear you go….


          • Too bad guns don’t protect you.

            Why are you a coward?
            I am a white man who worked in Harlem for seven years. I was mugged more than once and one time was at gunpoint. No amount of money in the world would get me to carry a gun. I also have a dead relative who killed himself with his own gun. We don’t know if it was suicide. He was alone and not here to tell us what happened.
            Gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot. Pussies carry guns. Real men don’t need a gun.

          • THANK YOU NO2GUNS

          • You’re right on one thing at least, guns cannot protect you… they are inanimate objects. However, training in the use of firearms and situational awareness is how one can protect him or her self.
            BTW, the statement that gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot is merely a shibboleth of the anti-firearms factions, not based on anything with a solid foundation of objective observation.

          • Tom Arnold is a gun owner whose nephew recently killed himself with his own gun. I also have a relative who did the same and isn’t here to tell us about it.

            Arnold said this:

            Arnold takes aim at the National Rifle Association for preventing Congress from passing stricter gun control legislation that bolsters background checks.

            Democrats stage sit-in on House floor over gun control​
            “I wish I could wave a wand and make Congress fearless. Then they wouldn’t kowtow to the NRA so easily. Same for a lot of my fellow Americans,” he argued. “The NRA has convinced people that a home with a gun is safer than one without a gun. That is a lie. Not even close, and the odds are about 8-to-1 that if someone does get hurt with that gun, it’s not going to be a bad guy. It’s going to be the owner or a friend or family member.”

          • WOW! That guy was one lucky fella. He was definitely watched over by a power much greater than mere mortals.
            Yeah, I’ve got WS CPL and the Utah permit also. I’ve seen ads for classes to get both the Utah and Oregon permits. When I took the training for the Utah permit, the instructor mentioned how difficult it was to get the Oregon version, but also stated that there’s a sheriff in southern Oregon, I think it’s around Medford/Grants Pass area that is more open to issuing permits to non-residents.
            Stay safe my friend.

          • Yes he was. But, he is former USMC and was trained to react which helped in terms of the mindset you need to kill. However, in this case the guy he had to kill was another USMC Vet and had a lot of problems he was trying to help him with. But obviously, the guy was to far gone.

            That Sheriff you are looking for is the one in Pendleton Oregon. I have that from a good source that shall remain nameless. Document your need for the permit in a cover letter along with any successful weapons training certificates you have may have and submit them with the application. Believe you are “between the lines reader” and understand the instructions.

          • bernieunelectableloser

            hunters and trappers are vermin who should be gut shot in sight

          • …boy!…you’re getting carried away with your bad ass out her partner. Think you are invisible don’t you?…..LOL!….keep thinking that ….

          • bernieunelectableloser

            how’s that lead filled COWARD Chris kyle doing?

          • ….boy!….now you are insulting American Veterans. You are a confident MF I’ll give you that.

            Any veteran hackers reading this…I have a mission for you if you choose to accept it. I would like to out this guy to the world. Any one out there up to this task?

            You had better hope a very intelligent man with IT who is a Combat Vet comes doesn’t find the hole you are hiding in. ….you jerk. I’m through talking to you.

  3. This is nothing but an attempt to explain why leftist policies don’t work and created a total mess in many black communities. Liberal policies don’t help anyone, they try to bring everyone down to the same level of mediocrity.

  4. I’m a racist! I was born that way. I can’t help it ’cause I’m white.
    So where is my privileged protected status?!

    • Is that a trick question??

      • On;y to a liberal useful idiot with a 14 year old girl’s mentality.

          • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You made a joke there, son.

          • That’s a joke… as are you.

          • No, sweetcakes, that ain’t a joke… you are!

          • Nope, I’m not joke.

          • That’s an opinion about yourself, other observing you in this forum believe otherwise and don’t take you seriously, hence… you’re a joke, but not a very funny one.

          • You have proof of this? How ’bout you and I butt heads then compare notes. Think you are smarter than I am?
            ….let’s play, dung beetle!

          • I have a Ph D.
            I speak five languages.
            I have four published books.
            I’ve taught at four universities from New York to California.
            As a pianist I’ve recorded 18 CDs and performed 68 piano concertos from memory.
            My alma mater, Juilliard, is five times harder than Harvard to get into.

            Now you’re turn.

          • I don’t point to my list of credentials as a gauge of my intelligence. It is the ability to think critically (preferably sans the institutionalized lies and liars) – for ones self that determines wisdom. I am intelligent enough to realize arrogance cannot rescue me from being wrong. Like all humans I hate to be wrong so I seek out that which is greater than myself to know and maintain that I am right.

            That thing which is greater than all of us is the Truth. Supposed “intelligent” men try to tell us truth is relative. but it is NOT. That makes them fools. So take that as my regards to your credential (meaning all the more evidence you are a dung beetle).

            Lies depend upon the Truth to exist but Truth needs nothing to continue; i.e. if everything in the universe was suddenly gone out of existence the Truth would still remain in this simple phrase – There is nothing.

          • You talk in circles about nothing. Typical brainwashed rightwing sheep. You attack the media because you cannot attack the message. That’s a typical conservative fall back and it’s lazy. Yes, we liberals control the media and academia. That’s because intelligent people are liberal. We are more successful in life. Don’t like it? Try to do better next time.

          • I am not surprised this is what you think. It takes intelligence to understand these principles – even tho they are as true and simple as the falling rain.
            I realize you don’t really care to prove how smart you are, since you believe I am beneath you (based on no more evidence than you identify me as a “conservative”). But the more you talk with ever diminishing evidence of REAL intelligence (as opposed to a collection of third hand knowledge in your partially polymerized brain; knowledge that some other nimrod told you, “now, this is what you think…”

          • So, what does that make you, except, perhaps a highly educated idiot… if true?

          • It makes me more educated, that’s all.

          • By the way, can you explain this paradox? Conservatives claim they are against big government, and yet the red states take the most in federal aid and the blue states take the least. Without the blue states, the red states would starve. I’d like to see what Alabama did if we stopped sending them federal (blue state) checks?


          • I already answered this question. But I’ll summarize.

            The “federal” government has usurped the Sovereign States’ authority to conduct their own affairs; using the Administrative Bureaucracy (that creates both laws and taxes in the form of regulations and fees ILLEGALLY) thereby robbing both blue and red Sovereign States of the funds it would have otherwise been at their disposal.

            At this point and until they nullify the false powers of the “federal” government they are trapped into this system.

            This is classic Socialism. I’m sure you love it!

            I’d like to see the system destroyed and then see how well Alabama does.

          • Yes, I indeed want socialism, and an encouraged that our country is moving in that direction. As a professor, I saw how enthusiast my students were for Bernie. It gives me hope for the future.

          • Socialism is a failed system based upon lies. It assumes that not all human beings are equal. It sell this lie by ignoring or even hiding the truth about human equality. It is true that humans are not all equal in terms of traits but as stated in the Declaration of Independence we are all equally human each having individual rights. Put another way there are no Naturally Superior (as suggested by Karl Marx) therefore no human is more human or less human than any other human. No human has the superior quality of such authority as to tell any other human how he can live – beyond that of Natural Law (laws to which humans naturally adhere, such as don’t murder your neighbor).

            Of course Socialism attempts to do just that and more. It attempts to promote EXPERTS over every aspect of our lives. Socialists must lie in order to veil their true purpose which is to elevate themselves at the expense of what is natural for human beings to do; seek the freedom to exercise their intrinsic rights as human beings.

            Socialism is an easy sell when generation after generation has been taught to depend upon government instead of the truth about life – there are no guarantees and your happiness is completely up to you – that your circumstances are not the source of your success or failure – you are. When people believe their circumstances are to blame they are ripe for socialism. They want the government to take care of them because they are hopeless of themselves.

            In the end Socialism falls apart and turns on its own people. Socialism makes legal for government that which is commonly illegal for individuals such as theft, blackmail, wrongful imprisonment, kidnapping, slavery and murder. Example; Venezuela.

            Of course the dung beetle hasn’t the attention span or intelligence to have read this far. but that’s fine with me. It is a lost brain and COULD NOT comprehend these truths even if it did read this far.

          • You’re talking in circles and not making any sense. Your rightwing talking points are stale.

            Try something new.

          • Correction – it appears to You – that is, in your opinion – that I’m talking in circles.
            You are entitles to your opinion.
            I’m pretty sure any number of the “stupid” (less intelligent than you) conservatives here would likely disagree with your opinion – even if some of the ideas were new to them.

          • Where did you earn your Ph D?
            Are your published books for sale on Amazon, as mine are?

            Where can I pick up one of your CDs?
            Mine are on Amazon, as well.
            Which universities have you served as a faculty member? In which states?
            I’ve taught in New York, California, Ohio and the Virgin Islands.

            I bet you’re embarrassed now.
            You should be.

          • LOL! You are one of the most arrogant dung beetles I’ve run across. But this is great (I’m having a good time).
            For all your credentials I don’t feel the least bit intimidated. Whatever I’ve done is none of your business. I’ve told you the true root of my intelligence. If that isn’t good enough for you – or if you wish to feel superior – I don’t care.
            I’m talking to the audience – not you. They will judge you – not me. And they will judge me – not you!

          • Your issues are quite deep. Seek counseling.

          • Hmmmmmmm…
            Well. Speaking of my “issues” it occurs to me that you’ve rudely ignored a question I asked earlier. In response to your “intelligent” desire to see all conservatives DIE because their party was full of bigotry (and I added “hate” because those two terms seem to like each other in conversation) I pointed out that you seemed full of hate and bigotry yourself. So I asked; setting aside our ideologies, what was the difference between us? If you are so bigoted and hateful that you wish me and all the other conservatives dead, how doers that make you any better than me? How does that make you any better than Adolph Hitler OR, based on your mythology, any better than Donald Trump?
            Human nature surrrrre is a bitch, ain’t it?

          • Liar. I said conservatives are dying as is conservatism. It is long past due for me to block you.

          • Not a liar.

            This was the post I referenced as it reads now (strangley the word conservatism is mis-spelled wereas before it wasn’t. Dunnnnnng beetle… you didn’t edit your post did you?)

            “No, when people get educated they become liberal. It’s a natural progression. Conservatives are regressives and are losing more and more power and control. Look at the mess that is your GOP. Such a joke.

            Conservativism needs to die along with the bigotry that infests your party.

          • You talk too much and it’s not compelling.
            Peddle your garbage elsewhere.

          • Well perhaps I do talk too much – but words have meaning. And being intelligent I appreciate that.
            Moreover I think you are wrong about not being compelling – you were compelled to loose your temper, tell me to shut up and quit the head butting contest about who is more intelligent, You understood very little of what I said, even of that small percentage you actually read.
            You are an arrogant (I’m guessing), woman(?) who has somehow gotten it into her head she is better than the rest of us. You say a lot of stuff we’ve all heard everywhere, already, but cannot back it up with substance, fact, self-evident truth. You thinks so much of yourself, noTOguns, that you think you have the justification to wish all of us DEAD!!!
            That’s pretty compelling in my “hateful” circle-talkin’ “bigoted” book!

    • We all are Black or White,,,But that doesn’t mean we can’t live together and work off each others strengths and screw the differences and let us all be ourselves with out some collage boy assbag shoving integration up our asses. . .

      Hey, Screw the PC BS. 2- of may all time favorite TV shows are ” Sanford and Son” and “In living Color” – Because Fred and the Waynes Brothers are bigger recasts than the White Honkey Son of a Bitch that I am. Bringing it out in the open clears the air and if you start looking carefully you will find our prejudices are more alike then they are different.

      I have this to say to the Seattle liberals.
      “Up yours, you big dummies”

      • Geez Matthew, I would say exactly the same things – except, I was born a racist (because I’m white) so ANYTHING I say is racist. For instance; I told Harry Reid (Senate Majority Leader at the time) I objected to Obama-the-lawless because I’m certain his birth certificate is a forgery – that he was born in Kenya – and that his presidency was illegal. He called me a racist. I thought it was because I happen to be talking about a president who is neither black or white and yet is both. But now I see he was calling me a racist because I was born white.
        I accept that I’m a racist. In fact, I’m quite content being a racist. I’ve found that when you find yourself it gives you a certain sense of liberty. If I offend someone by being white, I really don’t give a phuque! If I may be so bold as to say this in any liberals face THERE ISN”T A SINGLE LEFTIST DUNG BEETLES ELITIST P>O>S> out there I have the least interest in making an impression upon. So KISS my WHITE RACIST A$$$!
        But to all my American-who-happen-to-have-a-different-skin-color friends; I STILLLLLL Lub ya!!!

        • Racism is neither inherent in, nor unique to, people of European ancestry. Don’t get sucked into believing that B.S.

          • SSSSSSSSHHHH!!
            You start spoutin’ the Truth – you’ll ruin it!
            Bein’ white, racist is all I got
            Heck! you start saying things like that, the collective might start to think I WASN’T Born this way. Then where will I be?

  5. Idiots in Seattle

  6. Insanity has gripped America and the morons are taking full advantage. No better place to start than by a university in a crazed liberal state.

    • The entire state isn’t liberal, just the most populous areas around Seattle are. Unfortunately, they get most of the dumbest things passed through the state legislature that screws thing up all over Washington.

      • Thanks for that clarification my man. Look at a Map of Washington State. See the Cascade Mountains down the middle of the state? We who live in this beautiful State often use the words East of the Mountains and West of the Mountains. East of them is liberal land ….where all those who think they know how to run your life better than you do and have created an almost Socialist feeling with their insistence on PC. Then the rest of the State West the mountains, there are a lot of people who don’t need or want the Left Coasts nanny state….own guns….fish and hunt….camp and hike …who believe in live and let live. Mind your business and I will mind mine.

        But no matter, they are driven to control and manage and each year more insanity comes into law from Olympia. It won’t continue for ever anywhere in the nation…..big change is coming….get ready folks.

        Here is a little something I saw on the web the other day and have been sharing in places and with those I think can read it, evaluate it….and make your plans if you think you need to do so.

        Here you go. What do you think?

        Here’s a very scary thought for you consider…

        I had to take my vehicle to the mechanic the other day for service. The Service Manager, Pete, gave me a ride home and on the way he told me his theory a bout the upcoming election and the next four years of U.S. government.

        At first I thought it a bit far fetched. But as I listened to him it began to make sense, scary sense…

        “I believe that Hillary Clinton will win the election in November,” Pete began. “Then, sometime between November and January, Hillary will be indicted.

        The IRS is now investigating the Clinton Foundation and the whole e-mail thing isn’t over yet.”

        “Once under indictment she won’t be able to assume the Office of the President in January. Tim Kaine, who will not actually be the Vice President because neither he nor Hillary have been inaugurated, cannot assume the Presidency.”

        “The Speaker of the House can’t move up to it because there is already a sitting President and Vice President. So President Obama, in an Executive Order citing “emergency situation,” gives himself another four years in office is the only way possible.”

        Pete believes Obama has been planning this for a while now, knowing he has enough on Hillary to indict her. Had the Attorney General indicted her based on evidence from the FBI this plan wouldn’t have worked because the DNC would have quickly come up with another candidate.

        If you think about it, it’s not that outrageous. Many people on the left, including the President, want Obama to stay another four years. The law prohibits him from being re-elected so the only ways he can do it is by declaring martial law and suspending the election (which would be a very negative thing for the country) or to declare himself still President because the elected candidate cannot assume her duties.

        The latter makes more sense and is actually more feasible. And since it’s never been done before, it would set a precedent that would be difficult to challenge.

        Of course, if Trump wins the election none of this is going to happen. But what if Pete is correct? Four more years of Obama and a mostly useless Republican House and Senate would give Obama the time he needs to continue destroying changing the country to fit his stated goals.

        I thanked Pete for the ride home… and for messing up my day. Now I’ve got more things to worry about!

        • I think you have East and West inverted ?

          • You’re right my man!…I do have them switched. Have lived back and forth over those mountains in the last 50 years so many times I loose track…..but you got the message I believe.

        • If you are reading this …..note that I switched East of the Mountains – think Wenatchee, Yakima, Spokane – and West of the Mountains – think Seattle, Everett, Tacoma in the narrative.

          To those of you who aren’t from this area, just think of what I am saying as a Conservative type person, is that a lot of people who live on the West side of the Mountain are seriously committed Marxist/Socialist/Communists/Anti-Gunner type people who want to regulate all us because they know better.

          Of course, that is only my opinion – which is shared by a large group of people who live East of the Mountains in this state – that I can still express freely as much as those folks West of the Mountains would like to restrict it. And if any of you Liberal folks are reading this, let me also say as an American citizen and a veteran who served in the military, I will continue to do so until you kill me. Say what I think.

          Protect and serve is an oath I swore over 50 years back and there was no expiration date on that oath.

          “Don’t tread on me!” with a coiled rattlesnake says it all for me.

          • There is one flaw in your mechanic’s theory. There is nothing that says someone who has been indicted (charged with a crime) with a crime can’t be president.

            I wouldn’t worry about it, though, because despite the phony polls, rigged voting machines, and dead people and illegal aliens voting, Trump will have enough margin to overcome and flatten the cackling witch. But unless the lot of them of them flees to a place without extradition,she DOES have every chance in the world of making the can. (Kind of a reverse Bastille day for America)

            BTW, I’m pretty old now but I’ll gladly assist in any way I am able,(with the help of a few Jewish military veteran friends) to mount a mission to snatch the traderous felons and bring them back here for a fair trial and then,,,get a rope.

            Trump for the White House
            Clinton for the BIG house

          • From your lips sir, from your lips.

          • Mathew …. I will put the word out if you show up on our perimeter to bring you to me immediately…..chuckling….you are exactly what we need…and for what is worth…..I have been breathing air 50+ years out of high school…served in the military….nuclear weapons….been to a few rodeo’s….and have always healed from the injuries.

            The Gadston flag has deep meanings for me. I have always had a problem with authority in a quiet sort of way ……but not so you can tell.

          • Semper Fi!! Anyone touching my Gadsden flag will feed the crabs in my creek.

          • Vote for Hellery to reside in Leavenworth for the next 10 to 20 years.

          • I wish I thought you were right. However, given the fact that they don’t poll the cemeteries, voter fraud, rigged machines and crooked vote counters, I suspect that politics in this country will move from the second to the third box within a year.

          • The “edit” button is below your post. Just fyi.

          • Thanks for your service…even if the libturds west of the mountains are too brain-dead to appreciate (although I am friends with one liberal in suburban Seattle who DOES appreciate our armed forces).

          • At this point, I am even beginning to think some of the conspiracy theories hold some truth. Nothing much can surprise me anymore.
            I fly a tall large US flag, and recently on the front of my house a Confederate flag and a Don’t Tread On Me flag. I bought a POW flag but don’t quite know where to put it.
            I mostly fly the two on my house and a Trump sign in my yard to gig the Hillary voters.
            I live in a small costal town in FL and there are many TRUMP 2016 signs in yards here. But, NARY a Hillary flag have I seen.
            I traveled to a town fifty miles east and again saw only DT signs. Not ONE Hillary!
            I can’t help but suspicious of those poll numbers which show the Hill quite a bit ahead of DT??????
            Know what I mean?

          • Yes I do Sir….thanks for your comment….

          • Hey, I have lived my seventy-one years with little spatial awareness. When I travel in unknown territory, I can’t tell north from south, or east from west. So I always travel with a compass and GPS. Without those, I am lost and feel panicky.
            I also confuse right and left.
            Just life’s little problems!

          • …chuckling…thanks for that Brother…..I do compensate and have a few close friends who watch out for me….be well……smiling at you…

        • You just ruined my day. But your right it is plausible. Except that Trump clearly has WAY more support than Hillary does. Despite the liberal media’s desperate attempts to make it not so. I think the only way Hillary has a chance is through cheating. America will know immediately what happened and I think at that point patriot’s will have had enough. Of obama’s hated for this country, of his utter lunacy. Of liberals disgusting determination to ‘fix’ what isn’t broken. Things will get ugly. That’s a guarantee.

          • Sorry…but I killed your day but I’m glad you are aware now!…. Post this story everywhere….I am….

          • …oh yeah!….that is a given in my mind. Race War….Civil War….Revolution….maybe all three….it isn’t a pretty picture.

          • If things get ugly, I will be in the middle of the protests and more if possible!

          • If the red states want to start a civil war, let them. I say we should let them go and form their own racist conservative country. They do nothing but ask for free stuff from the federal government. They take the most in federal aid and we blue states support them. States like Alabama and Mississippi would starve without the federal checks we send them.

        • If Hillary should somehow win in November, I wonder if Trump would consider the position of president of those states that have seceded from the union.

          • Do you think any states will be allowed to leave the union?…really. Not a freaking chance in hell will that happen and if they try…tanks will be in the streets immediately.

          • I wish we could get rid of the red states. They are a drain on our country not only financially, but socially. We had to drag them along with the gay marriage issue. Conservatives are stuck in the 1950s. Most of them are heterosexual, uneducated, white, over the age of 60 and religious. They are a dying breed and can’t die soon enough.

          • Again with the embarrassing ignorance. You really should crawl back into whatever hole you came out of and stop wasting other people’s time with your nonsense.

          • I just looked at your profile. It’s private but has over eighteen thousand comments. Which tells me that your a troll. Probably paid by hillary or soros or whomever your master happens to be.
            Your ‘job’ is to disrupt conservative conversation and distract us from talking to each other right? Well I for one would just like to thank you. See because what you’re actually doing is forcing conservatives to defend themselves by explaining their positions. Which is a very good way to show people who come on here who maybe aren’t convinced just what our positions are in a clear and concise manner. It’s actually a pretty good way to get our message out and convince others of just how right we are and just how dangerous and un-American liberal democrats have become. They are truly the biggest threat this nation faces.
            As they chip away at the very foundation’s of what made this country the greatest in human history and go further and further from reality, common sense, reason and freedom. Waving their communist flags and advocating the hugely flawed and many times failed system of socialism.
            Your asinine comments, obviously inaccurate information and outright bigotry only help to strengthen our positions so thank you, every little bit helps.

          • Very good, Nat, I could not have stated any better. Those, like No2Guns, like to flaunt their assumed moral superiority and lord it over those they feel are intellectually inferior, but that sort of arrogance only makes them not only no better than anyone else, but actually more than amply demonstrates their hypocrisy and illustrates their moral inferiority.

          • Tell me where I can sign up to be paid to do this. I’m obviously very good at it. I got you to write a very long rant, which I didn’t read.
            How much are the Koch brothers paying you?

          • Conservatives are the biggest threat to America and you are dying out. It can’t happen soon enough. Your party is in complete shambles and you put out a candidate that truly represents the majority of you:
            Racist bigot who is narcissistic and nationalistic.

            The GOP is on its last gasp.

          • THANK YOU

          • I’d say it’s you put out a representative candidate for Democrats. Corrupt, greedy, dishonest, completely self interested while pretending to care about others, advocates a proven failed system so they can set themselves up as kings and queens of the world and have lesser
            beings like yourself grovelling at their feet. Head in the clouds unrealistic. Failures at everything they set their incompetent hands to.
            ‘Racist bigot who is narcissistic and nationalistic’ you can’t even come up with a real complaint, you have to spout the make believe party line.
            What exactly is wrong with being a nationalist? Liberals are so far out in left field they’ve now tried to make pride in your own country a bad thing.
            Like I said. Completely unrealistic nonsense.

          • Wow your brainwashing has been complete. Keep drinking that Koch Kool-Aid. Those of us with a brain are voting for Hillary.

          • You must enjoy being lied to. Does your boyfriend tell you that he won’t cum in your mouth?

          • I love it when husband cums in my mouth. More protein.

          • How about that??? You do possess one redeeming quality. But the rest of you is shit.

          • Which means you support lying, cheating and all forms of corruption.

          • Quite the contrary. I don’t support any of those things. I also don’t support people who make up stories about Hillary, which are not substantiated.

          • I have over 50,000 comments and nobody paid me a penny for any of them. I’m a proud Democrat, as are most Americans. Suck it up.

          • You Go Natalie! I believe you hit him right on the head…an antagonist paid by the clueless dead dems!

            Thanks for the excellent ream job…hope he felt every dig deep and true!

          • Your welcome. So sick of these idiots. Of course it’s best not to engage them, but I just couldn’t resist as this one is particularly ugly and absurd. If you like this read on, I had an interesting exchange in this discussion with another one named Rick who is more dangerous than this one. Because I think he really beleives the lefts propaganda and continued to advocate for Hillary while being completely unable to defend ANY of her actions. It was a couple of days ago but it’s a very good illustration of what were up against. It’s also on my profile.

          • I know what you mean abt some of the worms that slid onto this website. They seem to be on all the Conservative websites.

            Now I just play with them until I get bored. But some are just arseholes no matter how you look at them…and not wirth your time.

            I really loved your attack because you were intelligent and factual. Most libs can’t deal with facts and try to change the direction they’re going.
            Keep up your Awesome comments Natalie! Love what you do!

          • And if you had your way No2Guns… you would usher all of us heterosexual, uneducated, white folks, over the age of 60 and religious…. off to the nearest FEMA Camps right away to start the culling process.

            But know this, when you come to get me…..

            (oh!…that’s right!….you’re an anti-gunner judging from your handle here so you will send others instead of doing it yourself like all of your type)

            and other “old white guys”, (since you are hiding out here in terms of your profile that has 18,000 plus posts and we can’t read them I like Natalie below believe you are a troll) you should come well armed to get us. And bring backup….you’ll need it….actually, it would be best to come in massive overwhelming force.

            A lot of us in that uneducated “Codger Brigade” are much better educated than you are Sport to say nothing about our experience in life, living and warfare. Rest assured will greet you very warmly when you come.

            So!…. when you get your shit together, come for it!…we are waiting and will leave the light on for you! Have a nice day…

          • In communist countries, they have camps like that… infamously called “reeducation camps” where you either get reeducated on the superiority of the current regime or eliminated. That is the way of the left.

          • Typical rightwing moron who thinks physicals threats trump intelligence. Sorry, we are smarter than you and we will collect your guns. Be prepared. Build your bunker now.

          • ….I’m waiting my man….come ahead on it

            I am actually looking forward to that attempt when and if it comes and it won’t end well for your enforcement agents career paths….who ever they are…..because I know damn well your ass will be hiding in your hole where ever that is.

          • You’re a coward.

            Only coward own guns.

          • Exvuse me!! Are you brain dead? People who care abt their loved ones own and know how to use a gun, a compact bow, a knife, a rock, a stick — whatever it takes yo stop any intruder or criminal. YOU have just told an criminal reading this blog that you have no weapons. Nice going! Good luck with that. They know there will be no resistance at your home — “you” are the perfect target.

            In a world with NO GUNS, your neighbors wouldn’t be able to help defend you or your loved ones.

            Chicago has the highedt crime rate of any American city and it is a “Gun Free” zone. Stupid. But that city is run by criminals – white and blue collar. Its inhabitants don’t have a chance to survive and are robbed raped and abused regularly. Nice living conditions.
            So get your head out of your behind snd use some common sense.GUN FREE ZONES ARE A CRIMINAL’S WET DREAM! Say that 10 times fast and believe it. Removing anyone’s guns only makes more targets for criminals…and YOU are the next one they will be seeking.

          • Stupid. Guns don’t provide protection. Keep being a dumb idiot and you’ll end up dead. Ask if I care..::

            In 2009, the University of Pennsylvania conducted a study of over nearly 700 unique shootings and came to one very important conclusion: those carrying guns are 4.2 times more likely to be killed during an attack than those who are unarmed. It was a baffling conclusion that flew in the face of any basic logic — wouldn’t having a sidearm actually prevent an intruder or an assailant from hurting you first?

            Apparently not. According to Prof. Charles Branas, who authored the study, although the number may have had something to do with the type of person carrying a gun (in this case, a portion of those toting a firearm had criminal histories), it was far more likely that the person carrying the firearm would overreact or fall victim to a skewed sense of entitlement — or perhaps they would simply venture into areas where they normally wouldn’t. Either way, said Branas, the numbers didn’t lie. Packing heat actually increased your chances of bodily harm.

          • Additionally, a 2011 study in the American Journal of Lifestyle Medicine indicated that those who kept guns in their home were at a much higher risk of being harmed with them. Wrote study author David Hemenway:

            Most children, older adults, and women are murdered at home. A gun in the home is a particularly strong risk factor for female homicide victimization. … There is compelling evidence that a gun in the home is a risk factor for intimidation and for killing women in their homes, and it appears that a gun in the home may more likely be used to threaten intimates than to protect against intruders.
            Given the vast quantities of data at our disposal, the debate over gun control in the wake of the Charleston mass shooting should be considered with not only the victims in mind, but those future victims that have not yet been given a voice. All that’s left now is for those in power to speak up.

          • Gun free zones will never work in a free society. We need to ban guns nationwide, including disarming police. They are part of the problem.

          • Too bad about these facts, they destroy your argument:
            1 guns don’t deter crime and gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot
            The recent mass shooters had this in common:
            1 natural born US citizens
            2 legally obtained guns
            3 no criminal record
            4 there were good guys with guns on the scene in Orlando the moment the shooting started and the couldn’t stop the shooter

            I keep my family safe by having no guns anywhere near my home.

          • Then how come all the major cities are full of shit infested slums look at pictures of Detroit and Chicago, and Minneapolis and they are the ones with stricter gun laws but there are more murders their than anywhere else in the states.

          • The word you wanted was there. Of course cities with more population will have more murders, there are more people-duh.
            One hick from a small town in South Carolina was gloating that he lived in a place with less crime than my home city of San Francisco. I did a quick research and found out that the per capita murder rate of his town was higher than San Francisco. Oops!

          • If you want to get rid of the red states that can be arranged. They can just secede from the union. In case you haven’t noticed, there is a solid block of red states that runs from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico. I know a few people who live in red states and in terms of quality of life they got you beat all to hell.
            As an example Detroit was once a beautiful city. Now it is crumbling away with it’s dilapidated houses with caved in roofs. Other examples are Milwaukee, Baltimore, and Chicago. Just shows what over half a century of Democrat rule will do for you.
            And when Hillary brings in the thousands of migrant Muslims and the women in your family start getting gang raped just like is happening now in places like Sweden and Germany, don’t say that we didn’t warn you.

          • Ive been in 42 states and the only ones left are red states . I honestly can’t think of any red states I’ve been in that I would choose to live. They either have bad weather, are very economically depressed and/or socially backwards. No thanks!!! I’ll stay blue. Median house prices in my city are 1.2 million dollars. There’s a good reason for that. It’s a desirable place to live.

            I have no problem with Muslims. I have several Muslim students, including two from Iran. They are lovely people. A Turkish Muslim woman attended my gay wedding and was very supportive. My husband and I traveled in the largest Muslim country, Indonesia, and were warmly welcomed as a gay couple. Your stereotypes and talking points are based on rightwing paranoia and ignorance. Get out more….

          • By the way, the main reason I don’t like any red state I’ve been to is primarily the weather. But they are also ugly in terms of topography. I can walk to the Pacific Ocean and be in a redwood forest and climb the mountains on the same afternoon. I usually follow that up with an evening at the opera. Not many red states where you can do all of that.

          • The demise of Detroit is due to one thing: the capitalist greed of the auto industry, who moved their business to places where labor was cheaper. Don’t pin that on the Democrats. We had nothing to do with that. Nationwide the trend is towards people moving to the cities and small towns are literally dying away. That’s why the red states need to take the most in federal aid. The small town I grew up in is an example. The high school is now half the size it was when I was a student. Everyone is leaving. Manufacturing jobs dried up and the steel industry collapsed. It’s all due to capitalism.

          • You can!!! Leave for Iran and leave the states for us.

          • Those tanks are not driven by members of the joint chiefs of staff but by enlisted men. Probably many of them are from the red states. I served in the Army back in the early 1960’s and I would have refused to turn on my countrymen in support of someone like Hill-liar-y Rotten-ham Clinging-dung and I believe that many of the guys in my unit would have done the same. I see above that you served in the military. Would you not have done the same?

          • ..absolutely!….we both took the same oath…it hasn’t changed….and it had no expiration date.

          • bernieunelectableloser

            may your loved ones die of cancer

            hunters and trappers need lead in their worthless guts

          • Tanks crewed by conservative Trump voters.

          • He will have to move from NYC.

        • “East of [ the mountains ] is liberal land”

          Um, don’t you have that backwards?

          • Both east and west of the mountains is liberal land. The only states which are still conservative are in the South, where ignorant people live.

            By the way, can you explain this paradox? Conservatives claim they are against big government, and yet the red states take the most in federal aid and the blue states take the least. Without the blue states, the red states would starve. I’d like to see what Alabama did if we stopped sending them federal (blue state) checks?

          • Wow, what utter,absurd nonsense.EVERYWHERE democrats are in charge or live in large number you can guarantee two things. Government corruption and a massive amount of government money, or I should say our money, tax money, being poured into a strange vortex where much of it ‘disappears’. Usually into the bank accounts of corrupt democrats who could care less about the people they pretend to be helping. Just look at ANY inner city. Endless millions spent on ‘revitalizations’ and ‘initiatives’ and they are almost all a crumbling mess and have been for years. Just look at hillary’s foundation. She’s amassed a fortune while ‘serving’ the public, or herself, if you live in reality. I’m not saying republicans are perfect. Many of them have become just as corrupt and conscienceless. Without taxpayers in the red states to keep entitlements coming it’s the blue that would starve, quickly too because many consistent democratic voters have become hopelessly dependant on them and why not. Under the current administration and its piles and piles of new ‘regulations’ meant to further fatten the federal government businesses have run screaming out of this country. That’s reality. And condemning an entire half of the country as ignorant because of an outdated and inaccurate stereotype just shows how very ignorant, and ridiculous you are. I live in Pennsylvania. There are many, many conservatives here. Philadelphia, where I grew up. Is one of the crumbling messes full of traditionally democratic voters who continue to condemn themselves while enriching their ‘leaders’, and since Philadelphia has a greater population it overshadows the rest of the state. I suggest you read more than one article before making asinine comments, and a fool out of yourself.

          • Too bad it’s the red states who are always looking for the handouts, despite claiming to oppose big government:


          • That is simply a lie. Which is all you lefties know how to do. Hope you die tonight.

          • Nope, read the facts.

          • No can do. They do not exist. Not your “facts” anyway.

          • Conservatives don’t do facts and statistics. I know this.

          • You’re such a cheerful piece of sunshine. I get that conservatives feel outnumbered by us liberals. Your paranoia is warranted.

          • Not outnumbered. There are just way to many of you idiots among us. But nature has a way of correcting itself from time to time. The idiots kill each other or themselves or just do stupid things like try and take guns away from people when they themselves are unarmed. That would REALLY whittle down your numbers.

          • Yes you are vastly outnumbered, which is why you’re trying to suppress voters.

          • My precious, my precious, I’m coming for you my precious.

          • You’re the paranoid one, not me. I know that liberals outnumber conservatives.

          • Tell me, Most people that play the piano also play the swinette. Can you play the swinette?

          • Don’t know what that is.

          • It’s a piece of string stretched across a hogs ass and you play it with your teeth. Or in you case, tooth.

          • Is that what you hicks play in your small towns?

          • No time for you now. O’Reilly is on.

          • More Kool-Aid for you.

          • Nope. I’ll be up and down all night peeing. Just getting facts.

          • Excessive peeing is a sign of old age.

          • Were you not inferring that I was ingesting an enormous amount of Kool-Aid? Or am I mistaken in my assumption?

          • It’s called a metaphorical analogy.

            Do try keeping up.

          • You are a humorless wench.

          • No, I am not. But you are an intolerable liberal pig that I’ll bet weighs in at about 400lbs. Only fat women think like you.

          • I’m at the gym working out as we speak. I do this four times a week.

            I’m male. I have a husband-duh!

          • Ahhhhh! I’m sorry dung beetle. I thought you might be a woman – but your as phag-gut.

            That explains sooooo much!

            You Will be so good as to forgive me…..?

            So I have this little story to tell you. My girl friend (an actual woman) has a friend who lives in Orlando and she told my GIRL that she and her husband and daughter are members of a local gun club. They went to the range shortly after the Orlando Shooting and noticed it was inordinately crowded. Knowing the owner of the gun range they asked him about this. He told them that nearly all of the new members were GAY!

            I thought you would want to know in case you want to warn all your butpumpersnaplickers friends that they are now 4 times more likely to die by a gun!

            Seriously tho. Its amazing how quickly humans of all persuasions revert to Americanist principles when it is THEIR rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness that is threatened!

          • I bet you’re an uneducated white heterosexual male over the age of 60.

            “I love uneducated voters.”
            -Donald Trump

            At least one person loves you.

          • That’s the name she gave her husband but they had to change it to goatette since the swine part didn’t set well with the camel jockie set.

          • One conservative with a gun can knock off 100 liberals with signs demanding our guns.

          • Gun owners are four times more likely to die by gunshot. Works for me.

          • Shoot outs between black thugs in Chicago really do not count. Check those numbers against registered, lawful, NRA type gun owners.

          • Fact:

            All mass shooters share this in common:
            1 natural born US citizens
            2 legally obtained guns
            3 no criminal record

            they remind me of you.

          • I’m flattered.

          • Hmmm. there’s something missing here.
            Oh, I know what it is;
            All of the mass or high profile shooters of the last century and a half were either Registered Democrats or connected to the Democrat party!
            On the other hand was the shooter in Orlando natural born? We seriously need to get rid of birthright citizenship!

          • You are one lying muslim lover, momsy. You lie every chance you get and you take hundreds of chances every day.

          • I love Muslims.
            I don’t love Mormons. It was Mormons who attempted to remove my civil rights in my state. You’re an evil cult.

          • Works well for the muslims and the left wing retards and the only difference between them is muslims chase goats for their carnal pleasure and left wingers chase jackasses for the same.

          • And what about all those Republicans who stuff their pockets with vast amounts of cash in order to give favors to large corporations, big Pharma, oil interests? You act as though the Republicans are sinless here.

          • I actually said in this post that some Republicans have become as corrupt and conscienceless as Democrats. So wrong yet again. And I’m still waiting for a reply to the other post. Is that why you switched to this one? Can’t defend the undefendable mein feuhrer? Or are you consulting with Goebbels first on the legality of calling anyone who disagrees with liberals enemies of the state? Wouldn’t want to make another embarrassing gaff would we mein feuhrer?

          • Name calling — always so helpful.

          • STILL no defense. And you didn’t seem to mind it when you were doing it. That’s it. I’m done. Can’t debate someone who has no position.Just try to remember as you navigate your way through life as a clueless liberal, those with other opinions ARE NOT enemies of the state, and won’t be, unless hillary ‘what difference does it make’ clinton worms her way out of her many ethical or ethic less legal issues and worms her way into the Whitehouse for four more years of abject failure. And the moon is NOT made of cheese.

          • I do my best to listen to and to understand the opinions of others, though I may/may not agree with them. I have never held that people with differing opinions are enemies of the State. I do maintain that name-calling is not conducive to intelligent discourse since nothing is achieved by such a tactic.

          • There are Bad Apples in EACH PARTY!

          • Douche breath liar!!! Leave from here you sick troll bitch.

        • But, if Hillary is elected and then indicted and unable to assume office (because she is in prison) shouldn’t/t the election go to Trump? Don’t recall covering this in my 8th grade civics class.

        • Sicklesteele, someone sent me an email a day or so back, with basically the same message. It is a scary thought, but I think, I hope & pray there are millions of ppl like you & me who have had a stomach full of Hilary & obama. To even think of him or her getting the oval office for four more yrs,. gives me a migraine. If this was to happen, I am an old man in my late seventies, I think I would just as soon go on to the promised land. Our children & grandchildren are the ones who will be left to suffer. The American dream will have vanished. America, as we know it, will no longer exist.

      • Just like it’s neighbor Oregon, where the libtard controlled population centers decide everything for the rest of us.

      • I will accept your premise on the populated areas. My presumption of Oregon and Washington states are the Liberal Progressives in California picked their way up there to be free of the mess they have made of California. They took their liberal ways with them though. So now we’re seeing the results in the major cities. These people have never met a city they couldn’t corrupt and destroy. My apologies for the outlaying rural folks.

        • I’m born and raised Washington Native in that I was born in this state and grew up here. I worked as an IT Consultant my whole working life and spent a lot of time in high tech Southern California….1980’s-1990’s…..while based on the East Coast. I saw then the mess the liberal left were making in CA.

          Then I moved back to Seattle 2002 time frame and saw damn near the same failed policies and government employees running the California Programs entrenched in Seattle!…go figure!

          I now live in Central Washington and those leftist folks that don’t think I can take care of myself without their enlightened rules and regulations are now coming in here where I live taking over the local government. I have gone out of my way to let them know they and their BS politics that are not appreciated by the majority of the folks living over here and will continue to do so.

          I had the experience of one of those guys follow me out of a bar I frequent a month or so back to let me know he didn’t appreciate my attitude toward the left. My training is to confront a threat directly and did so. I replied “You have a right to your opinion as I do just as long as your expression of your opinion doesn’t involve you beating me down with your hands to make your point.”

          But, that was exactly what he had in mind and did slow his roll as he continued threatening to kick my ass as he walked up to the passenger side of my car. I was unlocking it to get in standing on the drivers side as came up to the passenger side where he paused as I said that. I had the drivers door unlocked and opened as the stupid asshole started around the car with the express intent of kicking my ass and talking about how much he was going to enjoy that. This guy was half my age and about half again as big as me. I’m a big unit at 6′ even…and weigh in at 200 pounds. Told him that I objected to that was not going to happen as he started around the back of the car telling me to “get ready to have an ass whooping!” and he started laughing with the anticipation.

          Wrong! … Wrong! …..Wrong!

          As he came around the back of the car and continuing to proclaim how much he was going to love kicking my ass, the punk smile almost literally froze on his surprised face. As I turned to meet him that was the last thing he said as he saw my response to his dumb ass!

          I carry an HK USP .45ACP with me every where I go in my ride. It was there in the holster between the door frame and the drivers seat where I always leave it when I go into the bar in order to be able to get right to it if need be coming back to the car. Good idea as I think about it now. I’m 67 and walk 5 miles a day, work out three times a week and can put 3 out of 5 rounds in a 4 inch circle at 21 ft. or seven yards.

          We then had a very serious heart to heart talk there for a few minutes in the parking lot about how butt fucking stupid he was assuming he could just walk up and assault an old man because I as exercising my first amendment right to free speech. Got him to nod that he knew about the 1st Amendment with that big barrel pointed right at his face which he was very intently focused on. The huge black hole is all you see when you are looking at that weapon pointed directly at your face from the wrong side of the trigger.

          Don’t believe he will make that mistake ever again….his eyes were huge looking down that barrel from about 21 feet away when I brought it up and told him “Don’t come another step closer to me asshole or we will make the morning papers and you will be dead!” He believed me and turned and ran when I told him to get gone….and he was a few seconds later. People like him – a millennial – are not going to fair real well in the future that comes our way rapidly,

          • You’re a pussy coward.

          • Millennial’s are the current scourge of the west but they’re not stupid by any means. The young man you described will be one that will work to remove the Second Amendment to allow him to have the upper hand in forcing his beliefs on others. This tactic is currently in play by Leftists and Progressives today. Here in California, my town and the “I know better than you” politicians have just made the (back page A3) decision to take over our electricity. They recently took over the water company and now our water bills are higher than ever. The granny state is in full swing and they’re very open about their agenda to rule. We apparently are same age, same mindset about the politics of self governance and same right to carry. One exception is I stay away from bars. Two subjects to never discuss in such places is religion and politics. These two subjects seem to be contentious when speaking to friends and family many times.
            The truth as I see it is many of these millennials are in our universities. The reason I say they’re not stupid is we see an obvious disconnect with them. This disconnect is their ability to reason the meaning of truth as it really is, i.e. they believe there are no absolutes, and that they are absolutely right about it. Circular reasoning that they don’t understand. It’s like the man that claims to know nothing, yet he knows he knows nothing so therefore he does know something. Millennials seem convinced they have intelligence in truth and reason. They missing the real truth though. They associate nothing with God and that there are two distinct forces at work in the world. He makes us all different and the choices we make are either right or wrong. To a millennial there is no wrong answer but that makes no sense to common sense thinking. From what you’ve written they are now resorting to violence to make us submit to their foolishness.

          • Very well stated my friend …very well indeed. Let me say here your advice about who and where I talk about politics is well taken. Since that incident I have put new rules for me in place. No more discussions of politics with people I don’t know. The reason? I don’t want to go to prison for killing one of the “enlightened ones” defending myself from their insistence that they are right and are going to beat that view into me.

            Stay frosty and ready my man….I am.

      • They must have migrated there from California. They have some of the same idiotic plans. Do you remember when they voted out segregation? The blacks would be able to come to the white schools, & by assimilating with the white kids, both blacks & whites would learn from each other. I don’t see where the whites have learned from the blacks, except how to trash the English language, & how to wear their pants on their hips, I can imagine what kind of liberal gobbled-gook B/S this “know it-all guru” will teach in this classroom.

      • I would agree with your comment. Washington State citizens are having to carry the burden of sins produced in city council meetings. It seems the city administration should be counseled on the symptoms of senility and dementia since there is reason to believe that there is an epidemic of cerebral wasting and atrophy of the frontal lobes. That would explain the impairment of their decision making ability. As for the quack professor, she obviously had great difficulty remedying the ravage of her mind when she reached menopause.

  7. I moved out of Seattle 35 years ago and have never regretted it. But the idiots have followed me.
    I hardly ever go into Seattle anymore and try to avoid even driving through on I-5.

    • I hate that traffic and when I have to go there these days I don’t stay any longer than I have to. I moved east of the Mountains 135mile in 2002 and settled into the mountains where I was born and raised. Myself and a group of high school class mates were talking about all the 206’s – a term for those from the Coast who have moved in land because of the social climate there and 206 is the area code for Seattle area – who are leaving what they created with their “progressive’ rules and laws and are bringing them here!

      Now that they are here, of course they are now in our local government over here trying like hell to turn this area into another version of what they left and we the people who lived here before they came, resist at every opportunity.

    • I’m sure Seattle doesn’t miss you.

      So you live in a bunker in the middle of nowhere?

      You’re right where you belong.

      • You continue to behave like an arrogant jerk, making assumptions based on pure conjecture. I actually live in a rather more upscale community on the Sound about 25 miles north of Seattle, known for it’s lighthouse and adjacent park. It’s also home to businesses such as Electro-Impact, Rane Corporation and Honeywell Marine Systems among others.

  8. A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots! AND TYRANTS AND BUREAUCRAPS!!!

    If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but 
not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might 
live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or 
to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might 
live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a 
check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not 
to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that 
was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from 
owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty 
F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a 
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but 
not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make 
you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is
 run by idiots.

    If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a 
wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman 
in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head 
searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but 
is run by idiots.

    If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions 
of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a 
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his 
teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class 
in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation 
that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more 
government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with 
Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free
 cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses 
but is run by idiots.

    If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to 
provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment 
checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was 
diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation 
that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest 
big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a 
wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government 
forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a
 nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself 
makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a 
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If the media panders to your openly socialist leader while the IRS targets groups with dissenting views— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your government ‘cracks down’ on legal gun sales to law abiding citizens while secretly supplying illegal guns to Mexican drug cartels— you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    If your local government (Chicago) outlawed gun ownership for ‘the safety of its citizens’ and now boasts the worst murder rate in the country — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

    What a country!

    How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America?

    This was borrowed from another blog, authors unknown, please spread it far and wide!

    • Borrowed or not, great post.

    • It was taken from Jeff Foxworthy comedy routine

    • You need a check up from a mental health professional.

      • You mean some bust out from a liberal cesspool with safe spaces like say,,,,,Harvard ????

        Like the Duke said, Not Likely, Pilgrim.

        Just a question for you moonbeam. If you get rid of all of us that will stand up for your right to be a commie, and some thug comes up to you and steals everything you have and them flattens your sissy ass, who you going to call? (Clue Gangbusters will not be there to bail you out my metrosexual friend. )

        • Just a question for you, conservative: how come you red states claim you don’t want big government and yet are first in line to collect federal aid money?

          • Whoa!!! ….Brother!…you are dealing with a lot of issues aren’t you!!!???

          • Yes, conservatives do have a lot of
            Issues, that’s for sure. It’s nice to see that conservatism is dying out so rapidly that their party is scrambling to stop it.

          • Typical 2-dimensional question that is un answerable yet makes the target look “stupid”. You are one clever dung beetle, aren’t you?

            Well here’s an answer for you, dung beetle. A long time ago a bunch of socialist Illuminist Liars (lying, deceiving and tricking are the only ways they can accomplish anything) began working on a scheme to steal the entire planet. In this country they have ever so gradually stolen the original Federation and replaced it with their socialist democracy CRAP – including usurping the original authority OVER the Federal Government possessed by the Sovereign States!!

            The central government has co-opted every institution by which people might know the truth, media, education, the historical accounts – summarily LIES!

            We have been conned.

            Now we are entangled in this system and getting out of it will require we the people to actively put a stop to it. AND WE WILL!!

            Think I’m just making stuff up and phartin’ in the wind?

            “And for the International Order that we have worked for generations to build, ordinary men and women are too small minded to govern their own affairs. That order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all powerful sovereign” – Barrack Obama (The Lawless) , Bilderberg Group, Brussels Belgian, 23 May 2014

            But specifically, clever dung beetle, what Red States are “THE FIRST” that you speak of – like there is some line to stand in like movie tickets? Or was that just a bit of your EMO drama at play?

          • Too long.
            Not interesting.

            You like hearing yourself talk. Too bad nobody is interested in anything you have to say.

          • Liar! It isn’t “too bad” in your opinion so don’t blow smoke up my ass by saying that it is.
            You are not the only one reading here. If I thought you were I would never have bothered.
            The premise remains; your question has one purpose – to make the target look stupid. I answered your question and you ignored it. Do I need any further proof of your intent?

          • Why do you inappropriately capitalize words in the middle of a sentence? Only German does this. We don’t do this in English, retard.

          • I do it to emphasize the word. I could not care less about the grammatical correctness on these kinds of forum. Conveying ideas true to how I wish to express them is the objective.

          • You’re a brainwashed nut, this is obvious. Keep drinking that Koch Kool-Aid.

          • Are you getting frustrated? I mean… I expect more from someone who claims to be smarter than any of us stupid ol’ conservatives.
            You are disappointing me, dung beetle. You aren’t any different from the rest of the dim wit lie-believers. If you are the poster child of socialism I can stop worrying…

          • I’m positive you don’t have a partner or mate. They would have committed suicide a long time ago.

          • That was your last post. I hope it was worth it.


          • Well I have to admit. It was!
            Let’s do it again sometime – whaddayasay…?

        • I won’t be needing a gun to protect me and my family, moron. Guns don’t provide protection. Only cowards own guns:

          In 2009, the University of Pennsylvania conducted a study of over nearly 700 unique shootings and came to one very important conclusion: those carrying guns are 4.2 times more likely to be killed during an attack than those who are unarmed. It was a baffling conclusion that flew in the face of any basic logic — wouldn’t having a sidearm actually prevent an intruder or an assailant from hurting you first?

          Apparently not. According to Prof. Charles Branas, who authored the study, although the number may have had something to do with the type of person carrying a gun (in this case, a portion of those toting a firearm had criminal histories), it was far more likely that the person carrying the firearm would overreact or fall victim to a skewed sense of entitlement — or perhaps they would simply venture into areas where they normally wouldn’t. Either way, said Branas, the numbers didn’t lie. Packing heat actually increased your chances of bodily harm.

          • And some people will believe just about anything, even if it’s not true. Huh, sweetcakes?

          • You mean those people who think global warming is a liberal plot? Or, are you referring to the conservatives who think sexual orientation is a choice, and you can change it at any time?

          • Let’s be honest. The debate is not about whether global warming happens – the climate has been changing for billions of years, and Earth has been both warmer and cooler in the past than it is now. The real debate it is about the extent to which intermittent recent warming trends are due to natural causes and how much they are due to human activity.

          • You’re one of ’em! You believe what ever you want, sweetcakes.

          • You can believe in Santa for all I care. You cannot deny science. You also cannot use your religion to deny me civil rights. That’s not America.

          • Yup. Another dung beetle that heard some expert liar and got all warm and fuzzy about it.

            Item one – FALSE

            Item two – FALSE

            Item three – FALSE

            Item four – FALSE

            Item five – FALSE

            Item six – FALSE
            Think I’m wrong? Prove it with fact – not opinion!!!
            That warm and fuzzy feeling in your chest doth not the Truth make!

          • I have proven everything with fact.

            Conservatives wouldn’t know a fact if it hit them in the head.

            “I love uneducated voters.”
            -Donald Trump

            At least one person loves you.

          • Facts are … what? What someone has spun and you’ve gobbled it up like the dung – lies the msm and socialist communist professors taught you? Hitler may have used racism to promote himself but it did not elevate him to power. The circumstances in Germany created by world banks and foreign intervention brought him to power.
            In your opinion – and that of those who oppose him – he is a racist. (I suppose for the same reasons I am a racist – we were born white). Any white person who stands out as a Rugged Individual is a racist – according to collectivists who cannot abide with Rugged Individualism.
            Just one example of your falsehoods.
            You are one laaaaazy dung beetle. Easy to say stuff. Not so easy to back it up

          • I went to Juilliard and not one word about politics was ever mentioned in any class I took in all three degrees. There goes your talking points out the window.

          • Oh, I know, twinkle toes. But come on and be honest, was there not an overture of socialism there. I’ve been in the arts and I know what kind of people gravitate to that kind of touchy feely crap. Socialist, self appointed care-ers for humanity. Of course humanity as in “the collective” – not as individuals; the unenlightened, passive minions, just waiting for someone to take care of them. Someone like you!
            Wistful thinking, dung beetle. My points are still here because ALL academia save a few “actually” private institutions are sold on and dish out the principles of socialism on a perpetual basis! Its a culture.
            Perhaps I’m not as “intelligent” as you but I’m not stupid so don’t try to sell me bologna as if it where steak!

          • lol
            You are not only stupid you are a bad sport to boot!

          • You really must enjoy spewing leftist, liberal, propagandistic lies. It must give you some sort of support for your attitude of superiority over all others. Actually, all it does is make you appear to be a arrogant jerk.

          • No, all it does is prove that I’m more educated than you.

          • That’s exactly what your hero Trump is doing. He’s stirring up xenophobia and Islamophobia by claiming it’s the immigrants who are causing our problems.
            That’s fascinating considering the facts:

            All recent mass shooters had this in common:
            1 natural born US citizens
            2 legally obtained guns
            3 no criminal record
            The mass shooters sound like you, not like Muslim immigrants or refugees.

          • Oh yeah, and, as someone else already pointed out, registered democrats, too.

          • Now that’s ironic, considering the fact your conservative talking point is that we liberals oppose guns. Apparently not all liberals oppose guns? I do, but not all.

          • Just remember that the talking point about illegally obtained guns and immigrants/criminals being the problem regarding guns is wrong. That was my point. How can we distinguish the mass shooters from you? Immigrants and criminals aren’t the problem and neither is illegal guns.

          • It’s become quite obvious that you’ve attempted to engage in a battle of wits completely unarmed!

          • Too bad my points go right over your head. What is your level of education? Bear in mind I have a Ph D and have taught at four universities from New York to California. I have four published books.

          • Can’t address my points? Got it.

          • The biggest problem I have with gun control is that its proponents typically focus on disarming civilians while leaving government law enforcers armed. History shows that this is an invitation to tyranny.

            If you believe the results of the study you cite (that carrying a gun increases your chances of harm), then advocate for disarming the police first. Otherwise, forget it.

          • I do advocate for disarming police, as they’ve done in Japan, the UK and and New Zealand, to excellent results.

            I don’t think anyone needs a gun. We have more humane ways to gather food.

          • I love telling this story. During WWI the Kaiser threatened to march a million man army thru Switzerland. The Swiss leadership informed the Kaiser what would happen if he did; “Our citizens will come out, fire two shots and go home!”
            Germany has NEVER marched thru Switzerland…

          • Well. My sincere hope (truly, I’m not kidding) is that you get a chance – soon – to prove your claims!
            Pop goes the weasel! ROFLMAS!
            Please let me know how it goes…

          • I don’t need to prove it. Research proves that guns don’t provide protection.

          • Clearly you are only looking at research tailored to what you have pre determined. There are any number of other studies that prove quite the opposite. Furthermore you’ve admitted certain variable found in your esteemed study the bring into question the quality of its findings.
            Of course being the arrogant dung beetle that you are, you once again fall back onto you self-pride to tell all of us we are beneath you.

          • Shut up, turd.

            What a disgusting person you are.

          • LOL…!
            Here is another truism for you, dung beetle. When you resort to abusive language- having no intelligent answers – you’ve LOST the argument!!!!
            May I suggest you quietly exit this and other forums where real people with actual, demonstrated, intelligence converse? And take your disgusting anti-Americanism name with you!

          • Oh, Noooo, little dung beetle. No, no, don’t go! I was having such fun…
            And you NEVER proved you were smarter than me. You prrrrrommmised!

  9. Does racial prejudice exist in this Country? Absolutely and not just toward blacks. Do blacks have prejudices against whites? In Milwaukee, I see.

    • Try working in Harlem as a WHITE GUY, if you want to see & feel REAL prejudice. My advice, make the Fathers support their many kids, if not, jail them & put them to work for the state, to support their children. MAKE the kids attend school, no quitting allowed, you stay in to you pass & graduate. After that DRAFT every teenager male & female, MAKE then learn discipline or suffer the article 15’s consequences. Stop the coddling, force them to grow up & act like responsible adults.

      • shooter9mm,
        We are not supposed to be a nation of forcing anyone to do anything. We have been a generally biased nation for way too long. What we HAVE to do is set forth programs for fixing our ills and then proceed to do exactly that. We are never going to make all poverty go away. But poverty is being caused by not only the government. It includes people who have lost their drive and willingness to succeed coupled with the majority who just plain do not care about how many poor we have. That has happened in many countries going way back in time. It led to their downfall. Time to wake up or go down with the rest of them. This nonsense is costing us a huge sum of tax dollars that could be put to better use.

    • Sure, bit so what? Stop ramming this integration up our asses and we will get along together just fine, but that is NOT what his Royal Exalted Boma ( the golf pro) and his cronies lke Sharpton and Jackson want to see. — an in the last 7 odd years that is exactly what they got.

      Just leave us alone and and this PC so called racism will collapse of it;s own weight. It;s human nature to band together to survive and split apart to live. Most of all, with damn few exceptions, everybody wants to get ahead and live comfortably, and that includes black and Latino people. Knock it off with the welfare and artificial hand outs and we will all do just fine wit out a nanny state.

      • Mathew,
        I wish Trump could make it clear to blacks and Hispanics that liberals are taking them to the cleaners. Yes, they get welfare. But not all can get by on it. Crime is the way they “get by”. and sometimes to excess. The Democrats just provide enough to get their votes and then ignore them.

        • Trump isn’t the one to deliver that message – he comes across too hostile to people of other races and backgrounds. They won’t listen to him. Also, crime comes in many forms, but police tend to focus on violent or blue-collar crime, not white collar crime. Many wealthier people of European descent are breaking the law in other ways, but don’t see themselves as criminals. In fact there are so many laws on the books that virtually all of us are breaking laws without even knowing it. It creates a situation where if those in power want to go after you, they’ll almost always be able to find something if they look hard enough.

          • starchild,
            I disagree. Trump is a good a choice as there is. No one else in the GOP is going to take up support for the poor.

            Uniform police are the ones to deal with blue collar crime. We have other agencies who deal with white collar crime.
            Those in power can come after you but they can’t make it stick if there is no proof.

          • Rand Paul and others in the GOP have spoken out for the poor, but not enough Republicans take it to heart. Key is understanding that while in any individual case there may be things a poor person could do to get ahead if they have the right character and values and drive and so on, it’s kind of beside the point, because statistically there is going to be a significant percentage of people who have economic trouble as long as they are in a system overburdened by taxes, regulation, and government controls. So blaming individuals for their circumstances in poverty, as Republicans too often do, is missing the larger picture that puts people there.

            But speaking out for the poor should not mean adopting Big Government Democrat-type solutions, and this is where Trump (in addition to coming across as racist) too often goes astray with his talk of economic protectionism, “free”government benefits, and so on. What it should mean is removing roadblocks to grassroots entrepreneurship, repealing licensing laws, lowering the startup barriers to business, etc.

            And also, just as importantly, reforming the criminal justice system and government in general to stop discriminating against poor people. For instance, spending more money on maintenance of parks in “nice” parts of town, criminalizing things like sleeping in your vehicle or on the streets, etc.

            I agree that having uniformed men (mostly men) with guns go after blue collar crime but not white collar crime has been the longstanding custom of the State in this country and perhaps elsewhere, but what is the logic behind it? It amounts to this: If we think you committed a “rich person” crime we’ll file some papers against you, handle things in a civilized way; if we think you committed a “poor person” crime, we’ll have armed goons haul you roughly off to jail and throw you in a cage. How often do we see, say, executives accused of bank fraud spread-eagled on the hoods of police squad cars?

            I’m not saying they should be treated that way; I’m saying poor people should be treated with the dignity and respect that The Law™ more often reserves for the wealthy. There’s a blatant double standard. It’s not at root a racist thing, it’s a power thing – O.J. Simpson’s murder case might be Exhibit A. But it ends up being a racist thing in practice, because poor people are more likely to be ethnic minorities.

          • starchild,
            WOW, a lengthy and informative response. Thanks.
            As a historian I am aware of the general tendency in any civilization to ignore the poor. I cannot think of even one who ignored the poor and survived for very long. The Roman Empire was a classic example of this concept. We are well into that category. We best wake up. Yes, the Bible says the poor shall always be with us. But it also encourages support or the poor.

            Any sort of aid to the poor must be founded on the principal of positive response from the poor. Any aid I would provide for the poor comes with the understanding that improved lifestyle is a given. No effort and the aid ceases.

            Three outcomes are evident:
            1.The poor are despondent to the max and give up on themselves.
            2. The poor will violently fight back in various ways.
            3. The poor will not defend the country when left to failure for a long period of time.

            That is precisely our wake-up call.

          • Thanks, Jerry. I think another key principle of aid to the poor is that it should not be dispersed via government, where it does not scale well, becomes politicized, and generates resentment due to the involuntary nature of the funding, but instead by voluntary sector organizations and individuals at the local level.

          • starchild,
            Fortunately I live in a place that has no slums and the public supports charities that provide food, shelter and clothing to the poor year around. We have an annual coat drive for school children every fall. We have a Paint-the-Town project every summer and fall cleanup of local parks. Yes, food stamps are available but it is mostly the elderly and the Hispanic poor that make use of food stamps. We also have community shelters. But the legislature is looking into the high cost of shelters and local jails that are eating up tax payer dollars. Volunteer work is underway to provide small houses for the homeless. Not bad for the reddest state in the country.

          • Starchild,
            I responded to this since but apparently did not post it so here I go again.
            WOW, I good detailed response. I like that.

            I may not respond to everything you had to say or I will have a very long post. But here is where I am on welfare or helping the poor.

            The Bible says we shall always have poor people. But it also says we are to show compassion toward the poor and help them. But here is a right way and a wrong way to do that.
            The wrong way is the liberal way of providing basic welfare and then ignoring them except at election time.

            The wrong was is for the GOP to ignore them altogether.

            The right way is to offer aid to hem on many fronts but with the understanding that if they do not avail themselves of what is offered and advance themselves, then all aid ceases, period. Is that cruel? Can it lead to cannibalism? Yes, it has at certain times and places within the US.
            I am a classic example of what you can do if mistreated by a police officer. Invite him to the police station and insist on going there with him/her. I have had two occasions to do just that and both times charges against me were dropped. I also had one occurrence where I went to court prepared and won against an officer. I have also twice agreed with why an officer stopped me and said I was quite specifically wrong. Once I was not ticketed.

  10. It seems to me that there is only black, muzlim, illegal, and refugee privilege exists. How about actually ending EEO crap and base jobs, education, winning contests, and other things in life on how well people put effort into improving themselves, learning, and making an effort to improve their lives?

    • Whoa!! You must be racist and anti-progressive/socialist!

      • Tom Buyea -- Fla.News service

        I am a Proud Minority hating American, I can talk because there is nothing left they can take from me ! (;^))

        • Never believe that. They can always find something else, no matter how small, that they can grab on to and take away from you.

    • Tom Buyea -- Fla.News service

      Yes end Affirmative Action, Don’t you just love it when you call Emergency Rescue and the paramedics got hired due to their colors and Not do to their scores on the pre-employment tests !! ?

    • Doesn’t fit the lib agenda. Remember, trophies and accolades to everyone (who is a lib) for simply breathing.

  11. The people of Seattle deserve everything they get. Great place to visit if you do not have to interact with the people.

  12. What a crock of steaming crap is the pathetic moronic thinking of this parasite

  13. Anyone left that still thinks that we can coexist with the liberal dem bloodsuckers?
    We must physically separate ourselved from the ersatz life forms, it is that or civil war.

    • I agree, What we have here are irreconcilable differences. The left has determined that anyone who disagrees with them is a racist, or homophobe, or some other derogatory term. It’s amazing how intolerant the “tolerant” are. There’s no compromise with them.

      • The liberal left see themselves as the intelligentsia and see anyone that disagrees with them as people who are not able to think well.
        The current mess in Europe is symptomatic of their way of seeing things. They see themselves as correct and see nothing wrong with forcing us to agree with them.
        I think it unlikely that, they will allow us to separate ourselves from them, peacefully.
        However, we should try, if it come to that, then, I am a former marine and have been there and done that and have no qualms about dealing with them in any way necessary.

    • It’s kike coexistence with and aggressive malignant cancer,,,,or worse yet the Sheri law type Moslems (Which at least actually TELL us they will kill us if we do not convert unlike the sneaky backstabbers like the cackling witch)

      Trump for the White House
      Clinton for the BIG house

      • Which provisions of sharia law do you find objectionable? The reason I ask is because I see all kinds of right-wing concerns about the topic in very generic terms, never any specifics. My feeling is that laws shouldn’t be imposed on people, but if Muslims want to voluntarily follow religious dietary guidelines or go to imams for arbitration who make rulings based on sharia traditions or what-not, fine – that’s religious liberty. Practicing Jews and others often have similar religious laws in their communities that they follow, and this is their right. It actually saves taxpayer money and reduces the burden on the government courts. Let’s think about this rationally and not succumb to simple-minded fearmongering.

  14. Tom Buyea -- Fla.News service

    It appears that the last “51 Years” Of Affirmative Action have Not destroyed White People yet, So they need to try to get them to help destroying themselves ? ! And very unfortunately, Some will probably co-operate in it ? !

  15. Just when you thought some folks were as dumb as you can get and still breathe…….. I’m going to try that thing with the toothbrush the writer suggested.

  16. More Progressive Liberal horse manure to help bury our society in.

  17. Believe me, you do not want to know what I think about this newest idiocy. The inmates are running the asylum.

  18. James Moe Morency

    What a pack of whiney, cry baby liberal safe space seeking limp wrist delicate little snowflakes! PATHETIC!

  19. Funny how these so far out in left field that we can’t even see them libs, apparently believe when the sheet hits the fan, THEY will be immune, because they are the Alpha & Omega of all knowledge! Are these fools being paid by someone to spew the never-ending stream of gibberish they come off with? Do they tape their lips shut to keep from laughing out loud at the insanity they come off with?

  20. LOL!!!
    So, I’m as ‘white’ as can be, from Germanic and Irish background, and I have to tell ya, I have NO problems with discussing any “race” issue.
    I’m NOT guilty either, since MY Grandparents fled indentured servitude in Ireland.
    We are ALL responsible for our actions in the here and now, the PAST actions of others upon ourselves OR our families or people have NO bearing on OUR actions in the present time when it comes to those who had NO responsibility in what happened to our past peoples.
    NO ONE gave me a handout, nor did I go looking for one.
    I started working when I was 14, I’m NOT special, if I can do it anyone can.
    Any other claim is socialist claptrap, designed to reduce us ALL to the LOWEST common denominator.
    Free your mind, free yourself.
    Let NO one person, group or populist social claim steer you from your own personal destiny or path, for they want you to be part of the herd that they can corral and manipulate for their personal gain, or because they themselves are weak minded and fell for the socialist line.

  21. Seattle is a giant Liberal S hithole that is why kurt cobains wife Shot and killed him she was depressed

  22. HAHA how about buttwipe fragility classes for the libtards? cmi…they meant well, just like Hitler meant well. I’d like to see the results of this clASS.

  23. I think they should move Seattle to California and build a double wall around California with a mine field in between.

    • Margaret MacGregor

      Isn’t the state of Oregon between Washington and California? And California has the same problems. The coast is as far left as it can get, while the rest of the state is Republican.

  24. They need to have sharia law fragility classes.

  25. People’s minds are as malleable as silly putty. THIS GARBAGE is all they can teach? Nothing like promoting a civil war.

  26. This one of the most assine things I have heard of ,this generation of whites have been so woosified they are afraid of a crack in the side walk, my GOD our military has turned into nothing but a bunch of queers and lesbows our schools have been turned into Mosques our so called reps in Washington are Muslimized to the point that they bow to Omuslimes ass every few hours . Damn wake up and see all of this bullshit so that we as a few men that are left with balls can wipe this bunch cowards and queers out before they finish the destruction of our country damnit LOCK & LOAD while we can. kill em’ all and let GOD sort them out

  27. Just because the people of Seattle have the name Washington as their state does not mean they should embrace stupidity as if in D.C. As they say on the NFL games “Come on Now”! It is now evident that listening to academia is a case for neurological problems. Quit sucking car fumes and start standing up to the liberal bullies on the west coast.

  28. I’m waiting for the classes for black people. Teach them how to live in a civilized society where if you obey the law you won’t get shot. Burning your own neighborhood is really stupid. Finish high school and you have a better chance to get a job. Stop having children that you can’t raise then sending them out in the streets to pillage and attack people. Stop blaming every one else for your crappy neighborhoods, you’re the ones living there, clean it up yourself.

    • Be careful about setting up “obeying the law” as the litmus test. It’s a double-edged sword. Have you signed up for Obamacare? Remember, it’s The Law™! I agree with Martin Luther King – unjust laws deserve to be broken (and Obamacare is one of them).

  29. That city deserves a black riot more than most others. It would be recompense for their stupidity. Educated, responsible normal black people have far fewer problems than ever before in history, at least, prior to electing Obama.
    It is the uneducated trash blacks that create the problems. Seattle must suffer from mass dementia if they believe this program will be of benefit to anyone. With such a guilt complex, isn’t there a high bridge out there they could jump off and at least reduce the stupid level?

  30. I, for one, am WHITE! And I am NOT fragile about anything, especially about the moronic liberal left’s ideas about how Americans “must” think! Higher Academia should be ashamed of itself!

    Those people enrolled in that ridiculous class better realize that the Professor’s “tweaked” ideologies abt the White Race will end the moment they vacate the Prof’s classroom!! The rest of the World is smarter than that professor! Academia definitely have their heads in the clouds when it comes to reality.

    Hopefully the Professor will meet up with some very angry and verbal White students who will make her feel like an idiot when confronted with a class that has no merit nor baring on
    what is truly happening to the Race situation in the U.S…and it’s been sparked by a useless bigoted fraud President. Any Prof furthering bho’s attempt at separating the Races needs to be reprimanded and threatened abt losing her credentials…totally unacceptable!

  31. What would would these professors do without their Ivory Towers to shield them from reality.
    Amazing how much education these people have and how stupid they become.

  32. My brother was a resident of the state of Washington. He left in disgust with where this is going!

  33. Sheeple keep taking it up the ass! REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION – guaranteed!

  34. news direct from St Petersburg west…or is it east?….well I guess it all depends on which way the aircraft flies when the pilot gets her going for sure…..

  35. Liberals need both hands and a flashlight to find their own butts. Sadly for them, hilariously for the rest of us when they find them they are aghast that their own butts are white. The women look like men and wear the pants in the family. The men act like women and wear panties. Which fit just fine after the neutering.

  36. Socialism is the firewall between Darwinian pressures and those who aren’t the most qualified, prepared and motivated. Mother Nature wants her best children to reproduce. Socialism brings “pissing in the gene pool” to a fine art. The social justice warriors do NOT want Darwinian pressure to thin out the herd. The white male is at the top of the food chain when it comes to productivity and innovation. Those further down the ladder want him handicapped so that they don’t look so bad.

    • The greatest American composer, productive and innovative in class, intricacy, intimacy and bringing joy through sharing and encouraging the evolution of the soul; the standard of important human accomplishment; when asked what he thought was his best composition replied “The next one.” His name was Edward Kennedy “Duke” Ellington, Our white ancestors tore down and scattered to the wind their Darwinian superiors by destroying the Harlem Renascences. New Orleans tore down the birthplace of modern American music while driving their white barbaric bull dozer over the home where Louis Armstrong drew his first breath to build a…police station. Irony at its purest in 2016 America. What the ‘top of the food chain’ has created, innovated and produced is a world starving its soul and fight to survive because of a cave dweller’s concept of what holds importance and value, the free expression of the human spirit be damned. Your ‘top o’ the food chain’ of survival has choked out those who would rise above mere survival and out of fear, jealously and a desire to control those who won’t stay in the tiny box of ‘top o’s.’ Suppression creates lack of desire to believe that the next one will be the best. They learned it from watching you.

  37. Whites continue to be under attack in this country. It is very evident. Look to a certain parasitic class as the culprits for that . If whites in this country are so priviledged as the script goes, why would those white rulers promote this ongoing attack? They wouldn’t. The sneaky Khazarian mafia that rule over the U.S. and Europe aren’t white. Whites are a threat to them in some way.

  38. A moron leading other morons. Well thank you I ‘ve had my laugh for today!!!!!!

  39. It’s absolutely the point.

  40. Symptoms of The Bureaucrat Plague..

  41. What a twisted mook, I understand why the author didn’t bother to leave a name.

  42. People who never leave school, who go from learning to teaching, who never work at a real job, end up with an idealistic & unrealistic mindset or way of thinking from what I’ve observed. . An idea does not always work the way the person envisions it. Things can look good on paper, but when implemented in the real world, it doesn’t work that way. Unfortunately, most people who live in this fantasy world are as stubborn as they come in their thinking.

    • Mr/Ms Them,
      Your life has obviously been affected by schooling and by teachers. It is a shame that those who taught you to read and write are now under your boot by the use of the tools that you were taught . What a waste. I am thankful for my pre-school teacher Mrs. DeHaven, who introduced me to then Sen. John Kennedy and set into motion a lifetime of public service, through the last professor of my MA, Dr. Porter, who inspired me at 57 toward new expansion in art and writing. I honor both and all in between . I can think of no greater profession, no more of a real job. Your comments come from concrete about a world which is only the illusion created by group thought. “As a man thinketh so it shall be”. What are the unknowing but the responsibility of those who know?

      • No one can change the truth…it just is.

        Your quote seems to be taken from Proverbs 23:7, but was changed. Here is what it says:

        Proverbs 23:6-8 (NKJV)
        6 Do not eat the bread of a miser,
        Nor desire his delicacies;
        7 For as he thinks in his heart, so is he.
        “Eat and drink!” he says to you,
        But his heart is not with you.
        8 The morsel you have eaten, you will vomit
        And waste your pleasant words.

      • I’ve noticed in your responses to others and to myself, you make broad assumptions that aren’t necessarily true. My teachers and schooling are not under my boot and have nothing to do with observations I have made over the course of my lifetime. I think it’s wonderful that people dedicate their life to teaching and to public service and to helping others.

        As I’m sure you realize teachers and teaching are not what they once were. As with the media the curriculum in the schools has become biased. When we grew up teachers and reporters were not to give their opinions but to teach the facts and let the students draw their own conclusions aka think for themselves.

        To have a class offered that teaches others to demonize any other group, be it by gender, race, religion, skin color, age or anything else is inhumane & certainly not the American way.

  43. Nobodi' Bilderberger

    Another useless gasbag, never created anything,
    these people make me sick.
    The reflex action is from your incessant whining and because you are wrong.
    380, 000 violent crimes against white people a year is a not a fragility you drooling puss bag.

  44. Maybe they should have classes taught by all the successful Black people who found a way to succeed rather than blame everyone else for holding them down. All these white people who hate themselves should just give their job and money to some black family and let the rest of us alone..

  45. White fragility is a myth created to advance an agenda. It goes right along with the EUs and UNs elite climate change/global warming/Agenda21/agenda2030/ sustainability/ social and economic justice. However liberal college and university profs need a fragility course in how to defend themselves against the rest of the real world.

  46. So true, the leftwing liberals are running rampant at trying to harass and injure anyone white. Although most of these liberals are white too. These liberals are so happy that a black man is president and that a liberal woman is running for his job, that they are peeing in their pants every day–they are so excited. They will say and do anything to boost the support of the liberals, whether it is lieing, stealing, making false storys about anyone who opposes them and supporting Americas enemys. Yes these liberal groups are behind welcoming anyone, friend or enemy, legal or illegal to this country. Then they do everything to make sure these people receive welfare, free housing, free phones, free health care and register to vote for Democraps. We true Americans must defeat these liberals before they kill OUR country. Before we become another Mexico with thousands of drug gangs killing as they please, or another Brazile where the president has been removed for corruption (we should do this but the coward congress is too scared and besides they might loose their cushy jobs and pay checks and expense accounts that sometimes are larger than their pay). Unless hellery wins, then Obama will hold the record as most liberal and corrupt government EVER. If Hellery wins,then she will take that record and Obummer will be second.

  47. Tyronne Shoelaces

    These people need to be taken into a dark alley and get the sh*t beaten out of them.

  48. The mentally ill need treatment, not political correctness.

  49. Paging Dr. Crane….Dr. Fraser Crane, the entire city has gone mad.

  50. hell of a drug and homeless problem in that city why dont they work on that

  51. Seattle is getting as sickeningly PC as the moral cesspools in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia.

  52. To the administration, whoever the nameless author(s) are, maybe you should sign up for the White Fragility class. Sounds like you could use some education.

  53. the people in seatle need to tell there local government to go to hell and not pay for there liberal mentally ill lies and distortions. liberalism is killing your city and state, I urge the people to get rid of every democrat liberal before its to late.

  54. Can anyone tell me just where White people do not enjoy overwhelming privilege?

  55. Has America become a nation of idiots? This is so ridiculous it scares me. I think only God can save us now.

  56. Maybe some of those ‘white people’ of mixed races born after 1990 are “fragile” enough to take this class, but the rest of us have confronted many controversial racial issues up through the years. After returning from Vietnam back in 1970 and continuing my education, I was confronted many times by hipsters because of my military style hair cut, high and tight. Most of the time whenever I stood up to the rioters and protesters, they backed down and ran. Every now and then, one would get frisky with me and they would end up on their ass screaming a foul language. My kids were taught never to back down from even a bully much less a wimpy wanabe modern day tough guy or gal. It seems that old socialist and union thug Sal Alinsky is alive and well.

  57. This person must have plenty of white where her brain should be,it’s empty!!!

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