Atheists: No Child Should Have to Say Pledge

Florida atheists despise the “under God” portion of the Pledge of Allegiance, and they want to make sure that students know they don’t have to say it. The Central Florida Freethought Community, in conjunction with American Atheists, sent a letter to Florida school districts this month informing them of their responsibilities under current state law.

“We will, after the start of the 2016-2017 school year, request a copy of your district’s student handbook(s) to verify compliance with Florida’s law requiring your district to notify students of their rights under the Constitution,” says the letter.

This clause was part of a school choice passed into law at the beginning of this year. Now atheists want to make sure that students know they don’t have to stand up and say the Pledge of Allegiance in class. They are telling schools that they must instruct their staff “that under no circumstances should they attempt to persuade students to refrain from exercising their right to nonparticipation, question students about their nonparticipation, or characterize opting out as misconduct or unpatriotic.”

So that’s happening. And that’s fine. If that’s the law, then that’s the law. And if you believe in freedom of speech, then a student should have the right to opt out of the Pledge if they so choose.

But let’s dig a little deeper. Why do atheists and liberals suddenly despise these symbols of patriotism? They call them devices of indoctrination and they say it makes non-believers feel unwelcome. Some have even said it is offensive to immigrants and makes them feel excluded. You can assign for yourself the importance of these concerns.

Here’s what they don’t get. These small acts of patriotism are important to a country with a national identity. Too much indoctrination can be a bad thing – look no further than North Korea. But it’s no better to throw all of it in the garbage. One of the reasons America is so great is that we grow up believing that America is so great. We want to keep the ball rolling. We want to make sure the future is as bright as the past. Brighter! Would we feel the same way if we grew up associating no more passion with the term “United States” than we do “North America”?

The United States isn’t above criticism, but we’re making a big mistake by turning our backs on national unity. We’re making a big mistake if we’re going to stop teaching our children how lucky they are to be living in such a wonderful country, and we’re making a big mistake if we don’t imbue them with a sense of responsibility to keep that greatness going.

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  1. The writer does not understand the issue. It is not the basic premise behind the Pledge. It is the religious indoctrination inherent in the “under god” part. The vast majority of people do NOT realize the pledge did NOT have god mentioned until the late 1950s. Originally, no religion or go was even hinted at. All they have to do is remove the religious component. And , it is illegal to force a student to worship any religion, god , or item. The easy solution? Make the school follow the law. Being a school does NOT give them permission to break the law.

    • Read the constitution moron.
      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

      • StupidConservativeValues

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          • StupidConservativeValues

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          • StupidConservativeValues

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          • StupidConservativeValues

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          • StupidConservativeValues

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      • Pamela Sellarole

        Citizen, I can tell you are a true patriot. But you are the second person today I have seen confusing the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence. God bless you for your attitude and the fact that you are a true liberty-loving American.

      • StupidConservativeValues

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    • StupidConservativeValues

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  2. Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    If any one that says the Pledge don’t want to say (UNDER GOD ) can leave it out. You aren’t forced to say (UNDER GOD ) BUT I DO CAUSE GOD MADE HEAVEN AND OUR EARTH.

    • Atheist not believe, but leave alone who believe and if interfere must jail. What must said? under a power of illegal nigger President and atheist influence? Are free religion and speech.

      • It is your imposition of christianity upon those who do not believe in such things that is the issue. Keep it in your churches and in your homes and out of the public square, especially the square classrooms where impressionable children will be indoctrinated.

        • Children are already being indoctrinated by the school system. If it was Islam, it would be embraced by the school system, guaranteed.

        • What better indoctrinated by leftist/socialist ideology, to put down the U.S. and our real history.

          • I would agree with that. We desperately need to start teaching US history and civics again. You do understand, however, that there is no such thing as ‘real history’. All history is based on the perspectives and beliefs of the historian. For instance, history books covering World War II from Germany and Italy would look significantly different than do ours.

          • 100% agree Paul.

      • hora… I’m guessing that English is not your native language…

      • Half ass nigger.

  3. Anyone who does not believe in OUR Constitution, laws, morals, customs, or ethics is welcome to leave and never come back.

    • Atheist must better leave USA, no any Law can pass a Constitution free speech plus freedom of religion, atheist are fuck, are two Laws against one.School must NOT accept children when parent are atheist.

      • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

        We are a DIVERSE nation of races and beliefs. You need to remember THAT!

        • Without laws to govern, Faith to lead the way, “Civilization” falls apart. Yes, America is a melting pot of nationalities, but most of them WANT to live in America and BECOME American, accepting our values and traditions – until the Fraud King obama was illegally forced down American throats.

          Being muslim himself, all his actions were to destroy American values and faith by ignoring our traditions and substituting his muslim ideologies – even so far as taking his presidential oath on the muslim quoran instead of our Christian Bible – behind closed doors. He has driven stakes onto our morals and Christian beliefs by creating “noise” about gay’s rights and transgender issues which have recently gone over the top in ignoring responsibility to all small girls and women. Bho is nothing less than a demonic Spirit that has grabbed Christianity by the throat and is choking it to death. Please do not believe his lies abt being a Christian. That bridge burned down by the hand of God a long time ago!

          Now he has the atheists doing their sickened actions of corrupting our future generations of children by demanding that no child has to day the Pledge of Allegiance to our Flag. Another twist of the knife obama has thrusted into the heart of America to kill her Spirit and destroy her strength!

          But, We the People, are DONE PLAYING GAMES WITH OBAMA, ATHEISTS, HOMOSEXUALS AND ANY OTHER DEVIANT THAT THINKS THEY CAN USE OUR CHILDREN AGAINST US TO FURTHER DESTROY AMERICA!!

          Those individuals are in for a huge surprise when Trump takes office! THey won’t be picking on children as their victims, but “They” will have changed roles and “They” will become the victims. Let’s see how they like it! PAY BACK IS A BITCH!

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            Oh, hon, PRESIDENT Obama is a Christian. Trump is an Atheist! So sorry for you if you can’t see through the con man Trump’s non-message. He’s too dumb to be President!

          • Do you have more money than Trump? I don’t, but I know that you can’t be a fool and amass an empire, as he has done. And, he didn’t inherit it all from his family – he got out there and worked for it. Too bad more people in this country don’t get off the dole and go to work! And, it’s too bad that DumBO has virtually destroyed the American economy and jobs for those on the dole. And if DumBO is a Christian, I’m the Saudi King!

          • Obama has never accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. He has never been baptised. He has said there are many ways to Heaven. That is entirely wrong. You only get to Heaven by accepted Jesus as Lord and repenting of your sins. When a person accepts Jesus, they receive the Holy Spirit. If you have not accepted Jesus, then you do not have The Holy Spirit.
            Now,about Trump, he does believe in God. His thinking is more on business, then going to church. (Today at church, our pastor said his favorite verse, is the one he is reading right now.) Trump is alive and can still accept Jesus as Lord and Savior .

          • Gag me with a spoon 🙁

          • I will help you out with that! Where, when can we meet?

          • Obama is not Christian and he along with most of his administration hate this country and all it stands for. I’m sorry that you are intentionally blind that that.

          • Really? Explain why he only prays with the Muslims, or didn’t you notice?

        • America is losing her Sanity and ability to control our Civilization. Too much of a good thing is no longer good for anyone. That is what is happening and obama let the fox into the chicken coop to cause this chaos.

          WITHOUT BOUNDARIES AND RULES (OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION), WE ARE NO BETTER THAN HEATHENS. If each person doesn’t feel pride and allegiance to the country they live, then they should live someplace else!! Simply stated TRUTH! We have too many races who “think” they should be running the whole show when they aren’t able to even take care of their own families.

          WHEN AMERICA DECIDES TO BECOME “UNITED” AGAIN LIKE ITS NAME STATES, AND PEOPLE PLEDGE THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO MAKING THIS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE FOR OUR CHILDREN, THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL AMERICA SURVIVE.

          HOWEVER, the Fed Govt MUST STAY OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS…PERIOD. THAT IS NOT ITS JURISDICTION NOR BUSINESS!

          Atheists need to back off, just like homosexuals need to back away from our kids. If they do not, misfortune will hit them all straight in the face. You can mess with adults your own age, but LEAVE OUR CHILDREN ALONE!! Or you’ll be sorry.

          • Excellent post! Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            Very sad thinking. You need to get some counseling. PRESIDENT Barack Obama was elected TWICE by intelligent, tolerant people. We are UNITED, don’t fall for false narratives saying we aren’t.

          • You are the one who isn’t thinking. Obama was elected the first time because of the low info voters who voted for him because of the color of his skin and because of the white liberals who wanted to be a part of voting for a black man. The second time he gained office was due to fraud, dead voters, black panthers intimidating people at the polls and the many blacks who voted more than once. And no we are not UNITED, this pos squatter in the rainbow house has divided the races by his race baiting. He has set race relations back 100 years. He is muslim, he hates America, American’s, especially Jews, Christians and Whites.
            Pull your head out of your ass and wipe the crap from your eyes and maybe you can see a little more clearly.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            The second time was because we LIKED his values and what he has tried to do to move the country forward. Do some research, there is NO voter fraud. It’s a Faux News, fear-mongering “talking point” that apparently fooled YOU!

          • The second time was just as I said. As for those who liked his “values”, what values are you speaking of? Would this be his values of forcing all public schools to allow boys in the girls bathrooms and shower rooms and vice versa? Or maybe his values of siding with and supporting the muslims, or how about his values of tearing down our military and purging the troops, or maybe how he financed the building of mosque with American taxpayer monies, or could it be his values of using the Cloward-Piven strategy to destroy and bankrupt America. This is the most corrupt traitor to ever set foot in the rainbow house. You need to do some research.

            https://getpocket.com/a/read/532302989

            And this one really shows what values he has:

            https://getpocket.com/a/read/1249171888

            http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/18/non-citizens-caught-voting-in-2012-presidential-election-in-key-swing-state.html

            http://www.newsmax.com/US/Carolina-voter-fraud-zombies/2014/04/03/id/563542/

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX6E2Ucv7S8

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party_voter_intimidation_case

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/new-black-panther-party_n_2082423.html

          • cheri; there is cure for stupidity. There is only appeasement. this isa labial of the wurs sort. argue all u want u r posting to an atheist, and a devil worshiper.

          • I have to agree with you except on the appeasement part. Appeasement only encourages these idiots further.

          • Another idiot. Atheists do not believe in devils any more than they do gods. geez.

          • A Libtard won’t do research – they THINK they already know it all!

          • You are so right, they can’t even think for themselves.

          • FOR SURE , HIS DAUGHTERS DON’T NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BATHROOM CRAP.

          • This is the most insane thing he has done yet, it puts all children and women at risk. It also puts males at risk because the decree applies both ways. There will be incidents of women going into men’s bathrooms and then claim they’ve been attacked or raped because they are looking for a payout. The man will have to pay for an attorney to try and clear his name and that could break him financially and he may never get the truth out.
            Obama’s daughters and his tranny wife don’t have to worry about this, they have security 24/7 and since he signed the bill for all presidents, starting with Bush, to have lifetime free security, they are well taken care of. Also, they don’t live like the rest of us peons, they have the very best at our expense. I’m sick to death of these freeloading traitors.

          • Good job! Thanks.

          • You’re welcome, and thank you 🙂

          • Speak for yourself, Libtard.

          • You “like” his values? You’re going to love the end result! You won’t be able to distinguish us from North Korea!

          • Robert M Stach Sr

            YOU DO SOME RESEARCH LOT OF VOTER FRAUD !

          • Then it WAS BUT A RUMOR that dressing and bath rooms in our public schools are given orders to permit trans genders to use the bathroom of whichever gender they “feel” like they were supposed to be?????????
            I am so, so GLAD that was just a RUMOR put out by Fox!!!!

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            Nah, that was Fox “news” and all the rabble-rousing, fear-mongering they do, without facts.

          • I’ve done my best to enlighten you but to no avail. Is it that you can’t learn or is it that you just won’t? I see no further use in continuing conversing with you, it is a waste of time, so this is my last comment and I will not respond to anymore of yours. Done.

          • WE CAN ONLY SPEAK AND ACT ON OUR PERSONAL TRUTH, IF THE MAJORITY OF US DO THAT, THERE WILL BE MORE BETTER THAT MORE WORSE.

          • Agreed.

          • Yes, that’s the same philosophy as Islam.

          • I can only surmise then that you WANT your daughter and granddaughter undressing with males! Deliver me!!!!

          • PRES. OBAMA IS NOT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. HE HAD A WHITE MOTHER. WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE DON’T REMEMBER THIS. I COULD GIVE A RAT’S BEHIND IF WE HAVE A BLACK, WHITE OR PURPLE PREDIENT, I JUST WANT ONE THAT WILL FIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY FIRST AND FOREMOST. OBAMA GOES AROUND THE WORLD , APOLOGIZING FOR OUR COUNTRY AND SIGHT SEEING ON THE TAXPAYERS. YES , WE HAVE MADE MISTAKES, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN THE WORLD’S DISASTOR WALLET. WHERE DID AND DOES ALL THAT MONEY REALLY GO????? HAITI SHOULD , BY NOW BE 100% BETTER THAN IT EVER WAS. IF ANYTHING , IT’S PEOPLE ARE WORSE OFF. STOP GIVING YOUR HARD EARNED TO OTHER COUNTRIES. GOD KNOWS, WE CAN THINK SMARTER AND GIVE IT TO OUR VETERANS, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN CRISIS, AND THE ELDERLY THAT LIVE BELOW SUBSISTENTS LEVELS. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE SILENT AND HURTING IN OUR OWN COMMUNITYS. THE WORLD HATES US. SO LET’S TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN FIRST. SOMETIMES,,,,,,,,,,,,
            “STICKING YOUR NOSE IN” IS A GOOD THING.

          • I must agree with all you have said. We should be taking care of our own instead of supporting every other country, most of which want to kill us.

          • tolerate of the jihadists that gave us-a the 9/11 event,$4.00 a gallon for gas,and heating oil. assholes in the obolahchamber telling ole people that they hav to turn down the thermostat for the sake of savin a few gallons of oil?! u r stupid and as thankless of the soldiers that fight and die 4 u r right to talk lick an drunk monkey with a paper asshole!? kisses n huiggs on memorial day?!

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            What are you saying?? It’s not comprehensible! Can you translate for me?

          • If you lack the grammar skills and ability to use context clues to understand sensrbtch, I could “translate” the posting for you!

          • DumBO was elected twice because of (1) fraud at the polls and because of people who have been made to feel “guilty” because their ANCESTORS MAY have owned slaves and they are trying to compensate for wrongs never done to any living Blacks by voting for an incompetent liar who happens to be 1/2 Black and who has a bit of pigment in his skin. Intelligence had absolutely nothing to do with it – in DumBO or in the fools who voted for him.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            You’re mistaking the Bush fraudulent “election” of 2000 with Obama’s election! We, who elected President Barack Obama recognize superior intelligence in our candidates!

          • You can’t even recognize yourself in your own mirror. I can tell you that ANYONE who was President of Harvard Law Review and NEVER published an article in the Law Review, was there because of Affirmative Action – not superior intelligence.

          • Robert M Stach Sr

            SUPERIOR STUPIDITY ON YOUR PART !

          • The foreign illegal muslim usurper SQUATTING in The Peoples’ House is absolutely NOT the PRESIDENT of these United States of America.
            Killary was promised the ’16 election to back off.
            obama was NOT ELECTED. he was INSTALLED. Our own govt. Was complicit.
            Romney was paid to throw the election.
            We are a Nation under occupation by an illegal, foreign muslim regime.
            he has done precisely what he was groomed & installed to do.
            Children absolutely SHOULD stand & recite the Pledge of Allegiance each morning.
            If you are an illegal, or are offended by our Nation, our Pride, our Love for our Great Republic, why are you here?
            LEAVE!!!
            This is a CULTURE war folks.
            These idiots want to kill our pride, our beliefs, traditions, our very liberties thet have made us the Greatest Nation the world has ever known.
            First time in history we have an anti everything good, a fudge packing queer with it’s “man wife” squatting in our WH.
            They are trash, were installed by trash, primary goal…..Trash & destroy America.
            Take GOD, FAITH, PRIDE & MORALS OUT OF OUR SYSTEM
            There ya have it.
            Trash trash trash.
            Get your filthy mitts OFF OUR KIDS you freaks.

          • Obama was elected by people that barely have the brain power to breathe and walk at the same time.

          • By PC people afraid to be called names. He is a racist.

          • I don’t know what rock or sludge pond you crawled out of but you are the problem for you are the uneducated one! Are you kidding? We’re united…….?? Guys like me fought your wars so you can be as dumb as you choose. That you would attack those who post their concerns and feelings is outrageous. You probably believe that this so-called “president” and his minions are the transparency they spoke of before obama became president. Stupidly, I voted for him even though my instincts told me not to. I did not repeat that mistake in 2012. Do us a favor and keep your stupidity in check. I am one Marine who finds creatures like you disgusting and I cannot speak for all who served but my guess is it is those who agree with me would be overwhelming. Do us a favor, either wake the ….. up or shut your piehole!

          • Thank you,
            Welcome Home ?

          • You’re welcome, Emma.

          • I send you my gratitude for your service, and the risks to yourself! Thanks.

          • REALLY?????????????? ALOT OF PEOPLE DRANK THE COOLAID. TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • no he was electing by parasites, members of the American Cemetery Residents Association, brain dead blacks, and those ahole coffee shop socilialists….supported by some clowns that try tell tell the world that they are journalists….instead of the commie cheer leaders that they really are…and your boy is trying his best to stir up the racist, hate cops, hate GOP, hate NRA, and all of the rest of the whitey groups…fortunately many people of color have finally realized that that african pretender is a racist rag loving communist illegal alien that thinks he is better than Real Americans….

          • Too, too late for you, Liberal! We the People have awakened!

          • I believe you and agree! Targeting our children is the last straw! We the People have reached critical mass in having our rights trampled.

        • Robert Kahlcke

          Fuck you

        • true! butt not under the guise of the constitution, or using the bill of rights to foster their twisted belief system. this is exactly tuat the jihadists are doing to the usa even as we debate the godless devil worshipers!

          • And so long as we treat Islam as a religion that will continue. When we reject it as the anti-Constitutional system of government it is we’ll have a chance of surviving their assault.

        • Diversity doesn’t mean that you can flaunt the laws and customs of the country in which you live. If you don’t like it – leave. I don’t care what color you are, what your sexual orientation is, where you came from, but if you want to live here, do as Americans do (or maybe I should say, as we DID before Libtard PC took over). If you don’t like it, you aren’t being held here against your will! You can go home. I would not expect that I could go to any other country and flaunt their laws or ridicule their customs as a tourist. I KNOW I couldn’t do that in any other country if I wanted to live there. This country respects the rights of immigrants who come here legally (illegals don’t count, IMHO), and they should respect the laws and customs of this country. If they don’t, they can leave.

        • You are right , however it seems like the evil on the left supported by their propgand machines the major medias are bent on DISTRUCTION of that S every thing now is the leftist/Marxist saying my way or the hi way! Not gonna fly S when you push people into a corner they have no place to go but out and Katie bar the door when that happens !

        • As should they as should you. According to the 2014 General Social Survey
          3%-5% of Americans are atheists and agnostics made up 3.3% of the US population.
          We, who make up the larger percentage, should not allow the few to dictate to the majority. The answer: if you don’t like it…don’t participate, don’t look, mind your own business and whine and complain in the privacy of your own home and leave the rest of us alone!

          • Nobody dictates to you, we only ask not to be stepped on and that should be easy for christians.

        • That is true & fine…however, If you are not an American Citizen, you have no say. If you are here illegally, you are a criminal with NO RIGHTS!
          As for “athiests”?
          Go someplace where you are appreciated.
          Why should what athiests think matter?
          Oh…. it doesn’t.

          • Why? I like it just fine here. So long as everybody leaves everybody else alone, especially our children, there should be no issue.

        • With one exception, if you don’t love this country and don want to swear allegiance to it then leave and don’t come back ever.

          • How narrow minded. I lived in Japan for two years and never felt any allegiance to the country. Was I wrong?

          • Did you pretend to be Japanese or did you remain an American? If you lived in Japan as an American then your comment has no relevance.

          • I remained an American of course just as they remain Japanese when they visit here. That’s the point, not everybody owes fealty to the US and there is no need to send them home.

          • They are not pretending to be Americans like the people who refuse to swear allegiance or stand and pay honor to our flag.

          • No, that is false. The people who refuse to stand and honor the flag/country are generally foreigners who were brought here by their families. Some, no doubt, were like me – there for a couple years and then back to the States. You’re angry for no good reason at all.

        • It was not meant from the beginning of America to have people who OPPOSED our system of Government! At one time, muslims were NOT

      • Apparently you avoided school to keep your religious bigotry pure.

      • BoundlessExistence

        You are either being sarcastic or you are truly a very illiterate imbecile. Which is it? Well, after reading your second comment on this subject I am certain that you are just another right wing idiot who should be locked up in a nuthouse.

      • Agreed! Let the atheists take their spawns somewhere else to learn. I’d suggest Home Teaching, but the atheist child would be so brainwashed against our nation’s beliefs, they could become home grown terrorists. The atheists/families just need to live in another country…Bueno for America, not so bueno for the atheists. Their choice.

        • You have no right to demand that. We pay taxes just as you do and we have a right to send out children to public schools where the laws are obeyed.

        • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

          Atheists are Americans, too! Intelligent, thinking, rational Americans!

          • No …you are not, or you would not work so hard to destroy our America, our culture, our traditions, our morals, to cry like a “vampire” caught in sunlight every time God is mentioned or alluded to.
            At the risk of sounding less than pleasant..
            Take a hike.

          • Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, Hindu and Jews can all practice their religion freely in this country. You are also free not to. When did someone’s individual need to be approved by you? Are only certain groups welcome in your America?

          • Depends on a few things..
            Are you here legally?
            Are you an American citizen?
            Are you here to harm our America, morally, racially, religiously, economically?
            Are you here to burn our flag, destroy our culture, traditions?
            If you answer in the affirmative to any but the fist two questions, then no, you are not welcome .
            Take your butt back to where you came from.
            Thank you for your cooperation.

          • Whose religion/culture/traditions, Emma? Black? Hispanic? Navaho? Nez Pierce? Cajun? Red Neck? Mexican? Irish? Puritan? Chinese? Amish? Portuguese? And 1000 others who have changed our traditions cultures and had theirs changed as well? Or are you talking about white history/religion/culture/traditions as given in our school textbooks?

            Tens of millions of foreign nationals live and work in America legally. Some become citizens and some never do. None should be required to “Take your butt back to where you came from.”

            Let’s see, there’s a word that describes all this. . .ah, yes. . .BIGOT!

          • Not bigot…
            PROUD AMERICAN.?

          • Your words belie your assertion. You look down on people who don’t measure up to your standards. You don’t know what a proud American is.

          • I don’t look down on you.
            I feel bad for you, but no, I don’t look down on you.
            Further, I absolutey Am a Proud AMERICAN.
            Now, you don’t know my background, therefore you are talking thru your hat.
            Now… this discussion is finished.
            No intention of continuing to cross swords.
            You are who & what you are.Niether of us is going to change our point of view.
            I hope you do one day, but if it is to be, it will.
            If not, I am truly sorry.

          • Just avoid my children as you retire from the field of battle.

            As a proud American, I find your narrow-minded viewpoint disgusting and I sure hope that you change your point of view someday.

          • That’s okay. You also are digusted & frightened at the mere mention of GOD.
            I am in good company.?

          • You are correct about one thing.
            I have very high moral standards, & tend to avoid toxic people.;)

          • Yep, it shows. What are those deadly sins again?

          • There are seven. Feel free to look them up.

          • WHOOSH! Right over her head.

          • No.. it didn’t.
            Caught it &tossed it back . Ball is in your court.
            Your beliefs or non beliefs are your business, provided you keep it to yourself & leave people of Faith alone.
            I do wish you well , but will no longer respond to you.
            I am sorry for people who have no faith n our Creator.
            I do not understand how anyone can NOT know the truth.
            I wish you well.

          • When ‘people of faith’ learn to leave the rest of us alone (which they won’t), then we’ll go back to our comfortable silence. Until you do, expect us to speak our minds and call out your stupid belief system especially where it seeks to indoctrinate our kids and grandkids.

          • BRAVO Emma!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Emma
            You are Made of True Grit.

    • DPMP,
      Amen to that… These people should go ahead and use one of our Many Freedoms and LEAVE. Try another country…Like CUBA perhaps. Oscumbag has opened up “relations” with them, so maybe you people that don’t “like” it here can go live the life of a Communist and experience just how “good” you got it here. (but of course when you go…we shouldn’t allow you back)

      • Not “Shouldn’t” allow them back, but WON’T allow them back.;)

        • Agreed for sure! But we need the “right” people running the show, so that will be enforced. (we really lack that now)

          • Yes….TRUMP 2016

          • Hell YES! Make America Great Again! TRUMP 2016!

          • As long as you keep vuying those foreign made goods, Ameeica will never be great again.
            You have the Reagan Adminsitraion to thank for those problems.

          • Have you forgotten who signed the NAFTA “free trade agreement” It sure wasn’t REGAN! Does the name “clinton” ring a bell?? NOW we have the TPP being pushed by the left for “round two”. I make every attempt to by USA whenever possible.

          • THAT SIGNATURE WAS TO ENSURE THAT AFTER THEY LEFT OFFICE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN INCOME STREAM BECAUSE THEY WERE “BROKE” REMEMBER? THESE COUNTRIES HAVE CONTRIBUTED MIGHTILY TO THE CGI. ACCORDING TO HILLY, THEY WERE BROKE WHEN THEY LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE……REALLY? AND THE IMMEDIATELY MOVED TO CHAPAQUA NEW YORK BROKE TO THE CLINTONS IS HAVING TO LIVE ON 1 MILLION A YEAR. SHE SAID THIS WITHOUT A FLINCH. WHAT DOES THAT TELL US ABOUT THESE TWO POLITICIANS???????

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Ебать вы глупо capatiolist. Ленин, Сталин и Путин уже Бог! Ебать вы глупо capatiolist. Ленин, Сталин и Путин уже Бог!

          • It tells me what ANY intelligent AMERICAN should know, THAT “those two” “politicians” should NOT be ever allowed anywhere near OUR White house EVER AGAIN, OR even in anything to do with Government.
            BROKE?? Maybe THAT is why they had to attempt stealing several items from the White House when they “left” (but I guess they were “informed” they had to be returned if that ever happened)

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            If WE had done that WE would still be in prison for “Stealing Government Property” but somehow Billy and Hillary “Got Away With It”.

          • You will find there are two “sets of rules” in this Country of for “We the People” and another for “The Elites” We go to jail when we do wrong, “they” get promoted” , a new “position” and of course a hefty raise in pay.

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Well, hopefully IF Trump gets in a lot of that BS will disappear.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Hillary should be brought on charges for what SHE DIDN’T DO in BENGHAZI!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Вы забыли, кто подписал agreement торговых “free НАФТА» это конечно не Риган! Делает “Clinton имя” кольцо колокола? Теперь у нас есть ТЭС, толкаемых слева для “round two». Я делаю все попытки США, когда это возможно.

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Ach! Ruusian now.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Ебать вы глупо capatiolist. Ленин, Сталин и Путин уже Бог!

          • Just flag it Roy, who or Whatever will go away.

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Hey! Pappy. I’ll just ignore both of them as “not worthy of attention”.

          • agreed!

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Now he’s pushing for a “Free Trade Agreement” with Europe and the result will be like Mexico with what little jobs are left will move to France or Spain.

          • Roy,

            You got it…But some of the idiots on this blog are LOVING the idea. I guess they don’t work for a living, don’t care if they do, and collect their Welfare and EBT cards on OUR dime.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I get the welfare and it good to me. Me and my woman have many kids to get more $$$. We also scam our food stamps and got figured to buy whatever drugs. We be section 8 and its good to us. I probably never have to work! America is great…thanks!

          • it should …ak69ergirlie is one of the many thousands of airheads that want to give billy “the rapist traitor” clintoney, a lewinsky….maybe lots of lewinskys. My guess is that these same clowns are going to vote for the traitor’s former leg hump, the ho clintoney, for the position of prez…another insult to the oral office. I wonder if they will have time to disinfect the place after the african pretender leaves…

          • Kent,
            Maybe she is looking to be billy-boys next acquisition! she wants to get her licks in while she can! LOL

          • If Trump can’t make a difference, I think America as we know her may be gone!
            But, DT has rattled many cages and awakened the decent Americans, So, I won’t give up hope yet!

          • If we can get George Soros paid HACKERS away from the voting machines and make voter ID mandatory,where only LEGAL American Citizens vote, this Country may have a chance of being righted again. But, as you know, the democrats are fighting ‘tooth and Nail” to stop mandatory voter ID. (I did see that some States ARE finally enacting it though, but oscumbags AG is vowing to fight it)

          • Oh! You are too, too right about our voting issues.
            I have to carry around a wallet full of ID’s to function in my world–but I don’t complain.
            But, the real difference is that some folk have “values” and some have agendas!
            I think it is high time that We the People got an agenda and fight for the right to have accountability for all the abusers of our freedoms!

          • When a person gets over 100% of the votes and the amount of votes outweigh the amount of people that live there and are registered, THAT should have thrown up some red flags, BUT because it was the BLACK DEMOCRAT that got this vote…Nothing to see here..move along, move along. What a CROCK!

          • Yes, a CROCK that is full of it.
            I hope I am seeing a lasting trend of We the (decent) People beginning to stand up for our values and rights.
            Have you noticed each and every time the Libs seriously bring up more gun control, gun and ammo sales skyrocket? I believe the People are becoming afraid of their own government!

          • Mary,
            I live in N.Y. State and I see our “governor” is doing the same thing as hitlery and furiously deleting e-mails right and left because now HE and his staff are under “investigation” for corruption. He did the “safe act” bill in the middle of the night with no input from the public and is attempting to disarm people the same way oscumbag is..
            Must be a scumocrat thing.

          • I like the “scumocrat” label!
            I believe all the chicanery the Libs and especially the government are doing is going to gain voters for Trump.
            Have you noticed the Libs and Liberal government crawling out from beneath the rocks during this election cycle? They aren’t ever hiding anymore!

          • Yes I noticed..The whole bunch, the “elites” including the RINOS are terrified that TRUMP will be elected and all that “power and Money” will be taken away slowly but surely. Expect an attempt for rampant “voter fraud”, voter ID suppression, driver’s licenses for “illegals” and an uptick in “false ID’s”.

          • Oh! I hadn’t even thought of such things! I SHOULD have though!
            Well, if Obama keeps up his crap like I think he will before the election, perhaps DT will have such a lead on the Hill, that voter fraud won’t keep him from winning.
            I dread to think of what Obama will be up to during his Lame Duck time. It may take DT a month to erase the junk he will do.
            We probably need to vote out as many of the Legislature’s establishment politicians as we can.

          • Term limits would be another item to push.”Serving” is supposed to be a privilege, not a lifetime career. THAT is how these people achieve Millionaire status after sucking on the Government teat. (or OUR Tax dollars)

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Yes, it was Bush who signed it and blamed it on Vince Foster. that’s why he “killed himself.” Also, TPP is short for “toilet paper” in Mexican and Jeb! married a Mexican! Can you see how it all makes sense now? Neil Bush is the one who set up so Marvin Bush could be a decoy when the twins went ice skating.

          • WE NEED TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT TRULY MEANS. YES, WE WANT IT ALL…..CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP, BUT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT. CHEAP. THINGS THAT DON’T LAST, LANDFILLS FULL OF CHEAP, AND OUR PEOPLE WITH NO JOBS. WE ALL WANT TO MAKE A LIVING WAGE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. ENOUGH TO TRULY BE CONTENT OR MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES , EXPENSEIVE CARS, LABELS ON OUR BACKS THAT MAKE US FEEL “IN”? WHAT DOES ALL OF THAT MATTER IN THE END?????? WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT? SOMEONE I LOVE DEARLY JUST GOT A BRAND NEW CAR AND FOR ABOUT FOUR DAYS THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE PURCHASE, THEN I ASKED HER IF SHE WAS STILL EXITED ABOUT THE NEW CAR,,,,,,,,,”IT’S A CAR” WAS THEIR RESPONSE. THINK ABOUT IT. WE ALL LOSE THAT EXCITEMENT ABOUT THINGS…..WHAT DOES THAT TELL US???????

          • StupidConservativeValues

            МЫ ДОЛЖНЫ НАЧАТЬ СМОТРЕТЬ НА СТРАНЫ ПРОИСХОЖДЕНИЯ И ВЫЯСНИТЬ, ЧТО ЭТО ДЕЙСТВИТЕЛЬНО ОЗНАЧАЕТ. ДА, МЫ ХОТИМ ВСЕ ЭТО… ДЕШЕВЫЕ, ДЕШЕВЫЕ, ДЕШЕВЫЕ, НО ТО, ЧТО МЫ ДОЛЖНЫ ПОКАЗАТЬ ДЛЯ НЕГО. ДЕШЕВЫЕ. ВЕЩИ, КОТОРЫЕ НЕ ПОСЛЕДНИЙ, СВАЛКИ ПОЛНЫЙ ДЕШЕВЫХ И НАШ НАРОД С НЕТ РАБОЧИХ МЕСТ. ВСЕ МЫ ХОТИМ СДЕЛАТЬ ПРОЖИТОЧНОГО МИНИМУМА, ЧТО ЭТО ЗНАЧИТ. ДОСТАТОЧНО, ЧТОБЫ ДЕЙСТВИТЕЛЬНО БЫТЬ СОДЕРЖАНИЕ ИЛИ МИЛЛИОН ДОЛЛАР ДОМОВ, EXPENSEIVE АВТОМОБИЛИ, ЭТИКЕТКИ НА НАШЕЙ СПИНОЙ, КОТОРЫЕ ЗАСТАВЛЯЮТ НАС ЧУВСТВОВАТЬ СЕБЯ “IN»? ЧТО ЖЕ ВСЕ ЭТО ДЕЛО В КОНЦЕ КОНЦОВ??? ЧТО ДЕЙСТВИТЕЛЬНО ВАЖНО? КТО-ТО Я ЛЮБЛЮ ДОРОГО ТОЛЬКО ЧТО ПОЛУЧИЛ НОВЫЙ АВТОМОБИЛЬ И В ТЕЧЕНИЕ ЧЕТЫРЕХ ДНЕЙ ОНИ БЫЛИ РАДЫ, О ПОКУПКЕ, ТО Я СПРОСИЛ ЕЕ, ЕСЛИ ОНА БЫЛА ВСЕ ЕЩЕ ВЫХОДИЛИ О НОВОЙ МАШИНЕ,,, «ЭТО CAR» БЫЛ ИХ ОТВЕТ. ПОДУМАЙТЕ ОБ ЭТОМ. МЫ ВСЕ ПОТЕРЯТЬ ЧТО ВОЛНЕНИЕ О ВЕЩАХ… ЧТО, СКАЗАТЬ???

          • It tells me that you’re SCREAMING! and we’d all appreciate it if you would STOP!

          • Are you “foreign made goods”? Someone reported you were not an American.

          • At least Reagan was 1,000,000 times better than traitor, head muslim obama.

          • Why do you need to tell this lie?

            Why do you embarrass America this way?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?

            Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

          • Why do you try to convince people are working but you are never wrong
            WAKE UP AMERICANS CA. This is what obama and the democrats and muslims are trying to do to us. When you become worthy AKlady(?) I will again converse with you. U til then goodbye nutcase.

          • billdeserthills

            Why do You?

          • Why do you post the same blurb in every conversation?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Fuck the Republicants

          • StupidConservativeValues

            جهنم بله! آمریکا بزرگ را دوباره! 2016 مغلوب ساختن پیشی جستن!

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Nicht Sprechen Arabic, English is spoken in the U.S.A.

          • not by admirers of the african clown boy….like ak69ergirlie and and the stupid,

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Ебать вы глупо capatiolist. Ленин, Сталин и Путин уже Бог! …

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Agreed! You speak the truth!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Nope, you’re wrong. It’s not the official language of the U.S. This country of immigrants uses many languages. Just because you’re an ignoramus and only know English…Ебать вы

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            I did not say English was the Official Language. I implied it was preferred.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            You didn’t imply anything other than English is the official language via your quote: “English is spoken in the U.S.A” Obviously, hundreds of other languages are spoken as well, so what you wrote and your explanation makes no sense, as it does not hold up to logic. Oh wait, nothing of the conservative mind holds up to logic, critical thinking scrutiny.

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            If you wish to take my statement out of context because I said ” English is spoken in the
            U.S.A”. Please do so. I DID NOT say it was the official or the only language spoken. Ich nicht dumkoph, mein Herr. Zie ist. Most News id done in English including newspapers and television. It’s just a matter of interpretation..

          • StupidConservativeValues

            See, there you go again…lying.

          • I think you’re wasting your time! What do you think?

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Dan, I reached the same conclusion listening to that fool that reminds me of AKLady,too

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I agree Roy! AKLady is of greater contribulliah than what you typically find in the raopwklinmy.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I admire you so much, Roy!

          • Reckon he’s gay. A total nut job.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Hi Arizona Don! Is that you in your little picture? I hope so, you have a really nice hat! Do you like your hat a whole bunch?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I think you look awesome in that hat! Were you in the public restrooms last night looking for action? Your hat looks very familiar!

          • Then stay out of public restrooms looking for action and you won’t be noticing people’s hats.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            So it was you!

          • Nope. It had to be you since you are the one noticing what people are wearing or doing in public restrooms.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Squirt your waste on Roy’s chest. Agreed for sure!

          • SCV is a liberal troll…this is just an attempt to piss people off! So don’t give him the satisfaction. You’re just wasting your time replying to the twit!…

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Paul – Thanks for the tip-off.

          • billdeserthills

            If you want to be the only one who can read your illegible scribble, I don’t mind if you keep writing, that way I don’t need to see your ignorant thoughts

          • StupidConservativeValues

            WTF!?! That’s makes less sense than most conservative babble.

          • billdeserthills

            Because you are ignorant

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Yes, you are correct…I’m an incorrect liberal.

          • billdeserthills

            That too

          • StupidConservativeValues

            To that that too. You are one hairyless conservative.

          • billdeserthills

            Arizona Don thinks you are a queer, I do too

          • If he’s not queer, I wonder why he wears his underwear backwards and gets a nose bleed every 28 days.

          • GodBlessRealAmerica!

            The Liberal Democrackhead party is alive!!!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I’m still ignorant.

          • billdeserthills

            You wear it well

          • StupidConservativeValues

            You wear it well well thank you.

          • Sus palabras son tanto tonto. Creo que si, una mula sabes mas de usteds.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Ебать Вы кусок дерьма! Лизать мою мудак. Сосать мой мяч. Я трахал труп матери, в то время как ваш папа взял фотографии. Ваш педофил!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Get the goat dick out of your mouth so I can understand you fool.

          • Tan malo! No creo que si que tu esta hablando palabras sucios sobre tu madre! Tan malo es tuyo!

            Mida! Al proximo vez cuando esta duchando, tomo tu dedo major del tu mano direcho, pongalo dentro su boca; entonces tomo tu dedo major del tu mano izquierdo, pongandalo dentro su ano. Cual, como tu sabe, esta lleno de mierda.

            Despues algunos poco minutos, con rapido, excambio los posiciones de tus dedos. Es una juego se llama y conocido en ingles como, “switch.”

            Por su puesto, y verdad, tu sera comiendo tu propio mierda,..como son su palabras….cual son bastante lleno de mierda!

            Oh, we are done. I’ve wasted enough time with you.

            Bye!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Bye…fool!

          • Only a liberal with an eighth grade education would pick someone’s post in such a childish way. If you didn’t understand what they meant then be an adult and ask them instead of attacking them for being right. By the way, English is the official language of several states.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            How did you know I was home schooled by conservative Christian Republicants until the 8th grade? This is uncanny. Your insights are spot on! English is not the official language of the United States of America. Note I wrote “States” and not “State,” which means federal law “trumps” state law (as stated in your coveted constitution). So typically, what you hold to be true as a conservative and obvious fool is in fact a fallacy. But rest assured, once Sharia Law is instituted in every court in the U.S. we’ll make sure Arabic is the official language of the U.S.

            لذلك يمكنك الذهاب يمارس الجنس مع نفسك و لعق بلدي الأحمق و لعق كوم والد منوالدتك

          • StupidConservativeValues

            btw- This all Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid’s doing. Oh yea, and that Kenyan, Obammy.

          • Sorry, federal law does not Trump state law. That is why we have a Constitution to limit the powers of the federal government. I didn’t say you were taught by conservatives and know that is a lie. If you had been taught by conservatives you should have an education and common sense, Troll.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            لذلك يمكنك الذهاب يمارس الجنس مع نفسك و لعق بلدي الأحمق و لعق كوم وال” “منوالدتك

            Translates to: “See, there you go again…lying out your ass.”

          • Sorry if telling the truth nowadays is lying for you. Look up the Constitution and get someone who can read to explain what it means.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            That’s your “version” of the truth, only what you want to believe to be true. But of course, it’s wrong as always. Alas, you and your conservative “values” are flawed at best, but ultimately downright repugnant to the memory of our Founding Fathers and the agreed upon liberal precepts of our great nation.

          • LMAOROF AT YOU!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            And…..you just insist of making yourself and “cause” re foolish. And that’s the truth (Laugh-In).

          • Can’t write, too busy laughing at you.

          • Actually, federal law almost always trumps state law (but Trump doesn’t). Where federal law has conflicted with the Constitution, States often challenge federal law but with the generalities built into the Constitution it’s a rare issue indeed when they succeed.

          • That is why there are a little over 60% of the states required on board for a constitutional amendment change. The Constitution sets forth the rights of the federal government where as the bill of rights sets the rules for citizens. All other laws are the responsibility of the states. This is not the current administration view, but that of our founders who worried that the feds would hijack the Constitution and take control of states rights. As has been done now.

          • That is not strictly true, the Constitution attempts to set forth the duties of the federal government and the Bill of Rights attempts to limit federal oversight of individual rights. While the 9th and 10th Amendments attempt to limit federal authority, the Constitution gives broad latitude which politicians have rushed to take advantage of such as the commerce clause, the domestic tranquility clause, the undefined ‘natural born Citizen’ term and the ‘all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the forgoing’ clause among others. Equal protection under the law is our current conundrum as we grapple with the rights of the LGBT crowd (whether or not you agree that they have rights). A woman trapped in a man’s body should not be forced to go into shower rooms, locker rooms or rest rooms with a bunch of men but ‘she’ cannot be allowed to use women’s facilities as dear leader insists. We must find a different solution. I personally believe that federal law should stipulate that where there is no space for an individual rest room where they can be accommodated that there should be no sexually designated rest rooms; that all rest rooms in that facility should be single occupant. It is the only sane solution.

          • I agree that what you say it true today, I’m talking from the founders intent to curb an expansive federal government. Their intent was for the states to govern themselves and a small federal government to govern continental and foreigner affairs. I understand the feds grabbed power in the late twenties and thirties under federal commerce acts.now, South Korea only has private restrooms where tourist flock. Anywhere else they have one restroom for men and women. The difference being they have less perverts than we do. Pervert=pedophile. The law in NC was never aimed at transgender, it was passed because the feds failed to come up with protections for the rest of America.

          • Yet the words in the Constitution belie that and their actions reinforce it. Are you familiar with the Whiskey Rebellion? You just can’t get much more unamerican than the action George Washington took.

          • There are plenty of pervs in Japan, trust me.

          • True, they are mostly underground. Been there many times.

          • Wow… A single use bathrooms are fine for a small business. But a large restaurant would have to have at least a dozen single use restrooms…do you see the issue with space there? Kitchens and dinning rooms pay the lease, while bathroom space does not. Dedicating more space to bathrooms means the kitchen and dinning room will now have to produce more revenue. That means higher prices…higher prices means less business, less business means people lose jobs…
            And have less bathrooms, it will mean long, long lines. Could you imagine the debacle that would cause at a sporting event?…Just saying…Maybe have a mens’ and womens’ as usual, and 1 single use bathroom. All I know is that business’s should ne able to decide for themselves…not government!

          • 0.3% of the population is involved. In a high school of 1500, that is 4.5 students. Male and female restrooms with one or two individual restrooms will work just fine for the largest of restaurants. It’s doable.

          • No, THAT would be similar to segregation.

          • So you think integrated bathrooms/showers/locker rooms is the correct answer. got it.

          • I have enjoyed most of your posts, so when did you stop thinking? Of course I don’t think showers/locker rooms should be integrated. If a person has male genitalia they should use male showers. Rest rooms are an entirely different situation. Re-read my post.

          • The problem is that that is the wrong answer.

          • With no thought to the needs of the individual. I totally disagree with that.

          • Very simple, and the solution is reasonably cost effective. The “fancy” (like on movie sets) port potty with hand washing etc..Simple & cheap;but, that is not what this is all about–admit it.

          • The porta-potty works for a temporary fix in some situations but isn’t the answer.

            I fully agree that this is about driving an agenda by a twisted group whose ultimate goals allude me frankly – unless it’s legalized child abuse and bestiality. At some point we’re going to have to draw that line but I hope that we manage to accommodate everybody’s restroom needs before we do.

            I know it’s hard but try to put yourself in their shoes for a moment and think about the dilemma they face. Realize, also, that men dressed as women have been going into women’s restrooms since forever without our knowledge because that is where they feel most comfortable. What they have done re. locker rooms and showers all this time is beyond me but it has been brought to our attention and we need to resolve it. Maybe if we can find an acceptable alternative we can avoid the unacceptable ‘solution’ we’ve been given.

          • Gary Von Neida

            Thee are caught up in “straw man” scenarios when an entire Nation existance is at stake.

          • They argue about FAR less important matters on a daily basis. My granddaughters showering with boys or sleeping in the same motel room with them on outings is not a ‘straw man’.

          • ” All I know is that business’s should ne able to decide for themselves…not government!”. . .While I want to agree with that, I’m a constitutional conservative, I know that I can’t. Back when we had separate facilities for black & white – blacks had at least some place to relieve themselves, not so with the sexually confused. We must provide relief for them while protecting our women and children and I see no better way that individual facilities that they can use.

          • Drawing parallels between this issue and the days of segregated restrooms is bogus.
            Even in the days of racial segregation there were black men’s rooms and black ladies rooms. No one forced men and women to use the same room.

            It is also fallacious to imply that transgender folks have no place to relieve themselves. They are not prohibited from using ALL rest rooms, just from using those rooms that are reserved for people with certain biological equipment.

            Single use facilities would be the ideal situation, but it is economically impractical in many cases (schools, especially). The logical solution is to declare that everyone use the facility that matches the gender the individual ‘presents’ as. Cross-dressers have always used that standard. It causes the least discomfort for all. If you present yourself as male, go in the men’s room. If you’ve made the effort to look female, go in the women’s room.

            Communal showers present a different problem, but using the standard I mentioned above resolves that as well. A cross-dresser may be a male wearing a dress, heels and make-up but a cross-dresser ceases to present as female when he removes his clothes.

          • So the male cross-dresser is forced to go into the men’s locker room/showers where he feels totally uncomfortable and will be treated worse. Wrong answer.

          • Enough of the PC crap. Yes, he’ll feel uncomfortable, but not as uncomfortable as 20 or 30 teenage girls will feel if he uses the girl’s shower. And who caused the problem? One person who is uncomfortable with his gender or 30 girls who aren’t?

            The bigger problem is the government’s attempt to pass one rule for both rest rooms and showers. They are two different situations. My point, in case it wasn’t clear, was that a man dressed as a woman will cause less uproar in a women’s rest room than he will in the men’s room. The opposite is true in a shower/locker room.

          • Not advocating that.

            I agree that the government’s ham-handed ‘solution’ has, as usual, simply created new problems (and I believe deliberately so). I think had Obama said, “There is a problem, you fix it or we will.” would have gotten some creative juices flowing and saved many hard feelings.

          • Not half as bad as he’ll feel if he tries to shower with a female family member of mine…That’s for DAMN sure!

          • Precisely why a different answer must be found.

          • You would totally disagree with your own comment were you he. That’s the wrong answer.

          • Guess we’ll just have to agree, that we disagree. Because to me…your answer is wrong. Like I said….if you have male parts and walk into a bathroom with my wife, you won’t have those parts to worry about for long. Like I said…he’ll be feeling quite bad

          • I agree with you that that should never happen and any man who does that should go to prison (at best). OTOH, there are people whose minds are screwed up and who need our help. It is the responsibility of society to provide relief for those people and individual use facilities is the only logical alternative.

          • that’s exactly what I heard transgenders saying on talk radio…

          • Ok…here’s another issue. How many times can they change their identity? Can they be boy one day, a girl the next, and then back to being a boy the following week? Do they need to have a letter from a doctor stating their problem? I have heard many a transgender on radio talk shows saying they have never had any problems. One girl who was changing to a male said she’s been using male restrooms for over 20 years without a problem. So…just who is it that’s complaining…or is this just an issue because the democratic party wants it to be?…

          • Good question but what you are describing are perverts, not the LGBT and precisely why we don’t want those who ‘identify as’ in the same rest room, locker room or shower with our daughters.

          • 0.3% of the population is involved. In a high school of 1500, that is 4.5 students. Male and female restrooms with one or two individual restrooms will work just fine for the largest of restaurants. It’s doable.

          • I’m sorry, but I don’t think it’s doable. You know it’s NOT just bathrooms, right? You realize that schools and other businesses would also have to have showers also, right. Such a athletic clubs, public swimming pools, martial arts clubs, and on and on. Every business would have to raise their rates, while receiving less revenue per square foot. It’s no different than minimum pay…it will raise the price to the customers.
            And, I can tell you that all of my friends and co-workers all agree…If a person with male parts walk into the bathroom with a female member of our family, he won’t have those male parts for long…

          • I am fully aware and I fully admit that it would be cheap/easy. If you have showers/locker rooms then you’ll have to have individual shower/locker/rest room for our ‘problem’ children. I am with you on the male appendage in the female facilities issue.

          • Gary Von Neida

            Another answer would be just large rooms without dividers where people just come in, sit , wash up and leave as was done 2,000 Years Ago. No One would attack another as the place would be truly public——–The places still exist, just now no one uses it.
            I mentioned “straw Man” arguments as I believe that more important things should be reviewed in this election Year–for an example; China Gate, where the Clinton Administration gave “High Tech” missle aiming and MIRVING secrets to CHINA. Now the “wronged” woman (Hillary) wants to OCCUPY the White House—the “straw man” then was infidelity ( funny name for rape of girls and women) instead of High Treason involving technology from Loral Industries and Hughes (both California companies) .
            Ron Brown ( Commerce Secretary ) paid with His life.——–America talked about Monica — and sex——wow——-that is what I mean about “straw man arguments”, the Clinton lawyers had a name for it—WAG THE DOG.

          • Clearly you don’t have daughters or granddaughters – or you’re a pervert?

          • Gary Von Neida

            When in a public place none of My offspring went into a restroom alone until They were of Junior High School Age; not to say that They were totally safe then.In grammar school there were often times a teacher would walk in and it was a safe place.
            I was attacked by a gang in Jr. High within the rest room and dragged Myself out Two sets of doors into the school yard with Two of them trying to drag me back——-I know what a danger such a place can be;but, We have to grow up somehow. I say “red herring” alert when there is all this talk of rest rooms for quasi sex individuals when the Nation is going to hell in a hand basket for far more dangerous things.

          • Taking a beating is manly. Being raped is not womanly. Wrong answer.

          • Gary Von Neida

            That is not what Hillary thinks apparently as She attacked those 15-19 females Bill raped as being BIMBOs.

          • Gary Von Neida

            It is true that restroom areas can be dangerous and often a place for predators of all types.

          • And parents should never allow minor children to visit them alone. It’s a lesson clearly lost on many. That does not change our aversion and disgust in inviting pervs into women’s facilities.

          • Gary Von Neida

            Have You read the Tenth Amendment? —- Law from the “top down” is what has undermined those that wrote the Constitution——unless a power is directly given to the federal government it remains with the STATES.
            The Supremes were originally given the duty to protect the Constitution, not re-write it at the whim of those that lobby for their own reasons which usually involve money and power.

          • I am familiar with the 10th Amendment. I am also familiar with the limitations that were tried to put on the federal government. However I also know how the courts have interpreted such loose verbiage as ‘common defense’, ‘regulate commerce’, ‘natural born Citizen’, ‘secure…Liberty’ and other phrases our founding fathers saw fit to ‘bless’ us with to exponentially expand on their duties. Had the founders simply tacked on “the government is given the following 18 limited and specific tasks.” we might not be in the mess we’re in. But they didn’t so they added the 10th to try to limit the damage. It hasn’t. It should and we should work to restore the Constitution but I hold little hope that will happen. The left gives bread and circuses, the right attempts to minimize that. The left grows, the right shrinks. We’re headed the way of Rome and the only question is what flag (barbarians) we will salute in the future.

          • Gary Von Neida

            Your point is taken and the document has been interpreted to it’s virtual death while leaving the spirit in which it was drafted in the wake of those that lobbied for their own needs and not those of the people. Originally only those that “had stock” in the Nation (land owners) voted;
            Today the HELOTS plan for “green Card” holders to elect the left with the “bread and circuses” and produce a situation where the proletariat will be controlled by the Dictators and will spell the end of the only free Nation in World History.

          • Yes, that’s another constitutional issue that desperately needs to be addressed. Only PROVEN citizens should vote in any election.

            Unfortunately, even citizens have become aware of the ‘bread and circuses’ you mention and I do not believe that we will reverse that trend. My only question is whether we will succumb to the lullaby of Socialism/Communism or will we succumb to the vote (of Muslims who will impose Sharia Law on the nation).

            But those are different issues.

          • Gary Von Neida

            Possibly not all that different. Goals of World Government begin by destroying religion By introducing a religious war the government can arrive on it’s white horse as the great mediator and replace GOD giving cradle to grave direction to the slave class——thus the government being master.
            Creeping socialism, like placing the frog in tepid water and then bringing it to a boil———–

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Do you use shoe polish?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Do you like Roman wrestling?

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Never saw it.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            There are theme parties where people dress up…kind of like the Renaissance Fairs that seem so popular. They get all the details right…even down to reenacting the anal sex orgies the conservatives of the day had with dogs.

          • Most likely, you’re the result of the sex with dogs!! Woof! Woof! Say that in your Arabic language while you’re wiping your ass with your bare hand!!!

          • GodBlessRealAmerica!

            CROOKED HIILLARY WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!!!!

          • GodBlessRealAmerica!

            ENGLISH ONLY AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD YOU DON’T LIKE WE WILL FIND U AND DEPORT U!!!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Trump all the way to the prudency!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Very good! It’s also spoken in Australia and England (from where it originated)!

          • then why are you answering in German ?

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Bulldog- I was showing StupidConservativeValues how dumb his reply was in arabic which very few people know or Russian either. Does that satisfy your curiosity?

          • What is a stupid muslin goat lover doing here.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Muslin is a fabric that is not sentient and is therefore incapable of loving goats. However; I can sense your love of muslin and I took the liberty (because U.S. soldiers fought and died for my right to do so…thanks fellers!) researching where you can find a great price on various bolts of muslin. Check it out good ‘ole friend! You can thank me later!

            https://www.fabricdepot.com/quilting-fabrics/fabric-type/muslin?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=03%20-%20Fabrics%20%26%20Basics&utm_term=%2Bmuslin%20%2Bfabrics&utm_content=Muslin

          • You muslim lovers are absolute ly stupidliberalsasses. When idiotic stupid libetards are worthy (which will never happen) I will allow you to talk to me. Until then bye bye obama ass-kisser.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Are you upset because you couldn’t find the muslin you wanted? Sorry!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Вы мусульманских любителей являются абсолютной ly stupidliberalsasses. Когда достойны идиотские глупо libetards (которое никогда не произойдет) я позволит вам поговорить со мной. До затем bye bye Обама целуется в задницу.Вы мусульманских любителей являются абсолютной ly stupidliberalsasses. Когда достойны идиотские глупо libetards (которое никогда не произойдет) я позволит вам поговорить со мной. До затем bye bye Обама целуется в задницу.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I love you deeply…remember what we told each other last night about never doubting our love for one another’s droopy parts between our legs.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            So let me get this straight; Muslim heaven = plunging one’s cock into 72-virgins and generally having a good ‘ole fuck fest, or Christian heaven where you have to be a goody two-shoes. I’ll take being Muslim!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I’d wager you’d like to roll around on a sheet of muslin wrestling a greased up nude Muslim?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Why do you believe the Christian god is an illusion, but that Allah is the one and only GOD that will provide man’s salvation? I find it odd that when reading the texts, the Christian god (let’s call him Bob) and the Muslim GOD (let’s call him The Fearless Almighty Allah) that you would think Christianity real. Muslim faith is the way. Convert so you too can get into heaven and fuck your balls off!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Every time Alabama porch monkeys get some $ and/or power they fuck it up. So us superior white folks need to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            TRUMP ’16!

          • GodBlessRealAmerica!

            OBAMA A LOW ENERGY PRESIDENT

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Agreed for sure! !!!!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            شما لذت می برد امثال تقدیر کردن شکم پسر حیوان خانگی خود را که دستمال مرطوب الاغ خود را با زبان

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Yes, that would be really great!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            We need whites to lead the way as always. Every time Alabama porch monkeys get some $ and/or power they fuck it up. So us superior white folks need to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            I love DONALD TRUMP 2016!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Agreed for sure!!!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            ¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.

          • Speak OUR language of English or got to hell back where you crawled from.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            We need whites to lead the way as always. Every time porch monkeys get some $ and/or power they fuck it up. So us superior white folks need to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            The “right” people are us Christians!

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Agreed for sure!

        • StupidConservativeValues

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        • It WILL be Trump 2016!

        • StupidConservativeValues

          Agreed for sure! !

        • What is your plan for “those people” who are 100% legal, born here Americans, yet think differently than you do?

          • She clearly doesn’t differentiate. It’s her way or the highway.

          • That’s the way everyone is (this year especially.) No one wants to compromise on *anything,* yet America is a nation of laws, not just Strongly Held Beliefs. So we will look forward to four more years of gridlock.

          • If they choose to leave this great land because they are not comfy here, stay gone.Things in this country have become rediculous in the extreme since the freak queer with it’s he wife &no!!!! obama is NOT the POTUS.
            An ILLEGAL ALIEN, a queer,muslim pos.
            Bent on the destruction of this Great Nation.
            Not going to happen.
            We are taking Our America back & taking out the trash.
            Where do you stand?

          • Depends on your definition of trash. You have an obstacle to overcome – ‘equality under the law’.

          • So, Obama hasn’t been the President for the past *7.5 years,* even though *our* Constitution, both houses of Congress and our Armed Forces recognize this. Since you clearly do not support these laws of America, maybe you should leave. Just a thought.

          • No, he has not nor is he now.
            We are a Nation under occupation by an illegal foreign regime.
            How can you not see what is right in front of you.?
            I can hardly wait for the day when he & his cohorts are brought before a judge for sentencing for their crmes against. America, her people, humanity.
            Then… the gal lows.
            That is justice.

          • As much as I would like to see it, you will not. You will have to suffer through incessant talk about his ‘presidential’ library and what a wonderful potus he was for the next year or so. 🙁

          • I truly hope that is not the case.
            Someone did a cartoon of his “presidential library” a few years back. It was an out house. 😉

          • No, he is an illegally seated foreign muslim marxist squatter .
            We are a Nation occupied by the enemy & it squats in the Peoples’ House !

          • No, seriously, then! All those people who voted had nothing to do with the outcome of the election? Your theory, then…

          • this usurper was installed by TPTB & our own govt was complicit.
            Some did vote for him. Machines were indeed rigged, overseas Military votes were not counted, & even dead people voted.
            he was never vetted, there are no available records. All sealed. That was first order of business you know.
            If you are truly interested, research him. I think you will find he is not who you think he is, or wish him to be.
            People are awake now. This will never happen again.
            He was installed to destroy our America. He nearly succeeded, but he didn’t quite make it. Nor will he.

          • I’m pretty sure we’d disagree on what sources we each consider credible, but I appreciate you taking the time to outline your thoughts.

      • The Cold War has been over for decades.

        The Soviet Union ceased to exiat quite awhile back.

        People have traveled to the U.S. quite freely. One could buy special passaports in Mexico and South American countriea.

        Cuba simply did not stamp the passports of Ameeicans who visited while thw embargo waa in force.

        • Thanks to oscumbag…looks like the “cold war” is again ramping up. Jet fighters doing “flybys” soviet helicopters taking picture of our military vessels, and soviet bombers flying off our west coast. So “over” I think not since we have a do-nothing sitting in OUR White House.

          • Fool, I live in Alaska.

            You have a serious case of self-imposed ignorance.

            People like you have not paid for the two Bush wars. Refuse to pay for them.

            Oh, and by the way, onlu Congress can declare war.

            A Preasident has only 90 days of troop deployment without Congressional action. That 90 days includes 30 to get them out and home again.

          • hey AK “lady:” you had better calm down before you blow a gusset.
            Either that or your “spellcheck” is broken” LOL

          • Roy Fredrichsen

            Hey Pappy 450 – Don’t pay any attention to that senile old lady that only likes to insult or criticise what ever strikes her fancy.

          • I have noticed that. I guess some just get their kicks from seeing if they can get something going.. Best to ignore and flag the comment, just like I just did with the “foreign language crap. Really I don’t think she is a “lady” at all, or actually knows what an AK is… I have shot them, don’t really care for them much. (waste of ammo) LOL

          • it is wonderful how many folks have no clue that the last war that the USA was in came to a formal close in 1945….a lot of linger issues have been addressed since then and many more need to be resolved, but the cowards get to vote to….much like demanding to be fed, but refusing to do the chores…

          • That’s right Kent! For almost 8 years we have had the king of “wealth redistribution” shoved down our throats thanks to the ‘takers”. Welfare is up, food stamps are up and EBT cards are handed out like candy, while WE have to “pony up more” to feed them.

          • Wow. I thought you might actually have an honest discussion with a commenter! But, your rage just bubbles up and you must be abusive without reason. Quien sabe?

          • StupidConservativeValues

            … Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。

          • the twit ak69ergirlie thinks like many of the airheads that support kenyan boyo, the democrapo party, and other assorted crapola organizations that communism is dead…not only that the twits and twats think that Mikhail Gorbechav brought the wall down…sounds like commies cheering for commies does it not…of course hos do not think that prostitution is wrong either, why it is capitalism right ???

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Obama is your Christian GOD. Hillary will be your next Christian God.

          • StupidConservativeValues

            Traitor referring to our WONDERFUL president by a such a nickname.

          • How about OGAYBOY??? Better??

      • StupidConservativeValues

        … Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。

      • StupidConservativeValues

        Ебать Вы кусок дерьма! BLOW ME Лизать мою мудак. Сосать мой мяч. Я трахал труп матери, в то время как ваш папа взял фотографии. Ваш педофил!

      • StupidConservativeValues

        When I was four, I a dog that followed me everywhere. Did you ever have a dog?

      • StupidConservativeValues

        Yea, boy you said it!

      • I’ll send you luggage and a U-Haul, if you don’t like it here you can leave.

    • So you believe the forced saying of a loyalty oath makes us better… how?

      • Roy Fredrichsen

        Nobody is FORCING anybody to say anything. If you DO NOT want to say it, all you have to do is stay silent.

      • So tell us, how does it not make us better. Nothing wrong with standing up for your country where you have so many freedoms.

        • Yes, indeed, we should stand up for our country IN SPITE OF the Pharaoh Barry’s antics, trusting in Yahuwah Almighty to deal with him, since our congress is too cowardly to do so.

          As Yahuwah Almighty says in a few references, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay,” and repay He will, and give rewards to His servants, in the Name of our Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus), omein.

      • Atheist wouldn’t understand no matter how reasonable or logical the explanation. Atheist are mental retards. Better to ignore them and let them lie in their bile.

        • Our country was founded on freedom from religious persecution. Meaning we do not have a “state religion,” and we can believe in whatever we want. We also have the same right *not* to believe. Your calling atheist “mental retards,” is not “reasonable or logical .”

          • But you do not have the right to interfere with my beliefs or my worship. If you don’t want to participate then don’t. This is the same argument I have with whole gay marriage argument with the Baker. He didn’t desire to participate.

          • I have no desire to interfere with *anyone’s* belief or worship. People believe what they want to believe (or not) for their own reasons.

        • That has nothing to do with Atheists, it has to do with allegiance. You cannot proscribe allegiance.

          • interesting use of the word “proscribe”, wiki sez it is wright. ordinally I do not pik words.

      • It is a matter of pride.
        Of knowing, without doubt we are indeed, one nation, under GOD,
        To give that feeling of love, safety, care, etc.

        • But we are not all under your god or any other. No god is needed to feel love, safety, care, pride, etc.

          • There will come a time you will call HIS name.
            Yes, you surely will.

          • FUCK GOD!!

            How’s that?

          • What are you so afraid of that even the mention of HIS name sends you into a tail spin.
            Personally, I don’t care one way or the other whether you do or don’t believe. It is you who will reap what you have sown.
            Fact is, as long as you leave folks of Faith alone, stop trying to cram your non beliefs down our throats, trying to remove any indication or mention of our Faith in our Holy Father, I am good with your tossing away your soul.
            Sooooo….as for your ignorant & oh so classless remark, lol,
            Wow….real winner there bucky boy. What an ignorant fool you are.

          • I’ll leave you alone when you leave me and my children alone and not before. We’re going to push separation of church and state until you howl.

          • Hey bucky boy… your kidlets do not have to participate in prayer, however, they absolutely should be required to stand & recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
            Yes…one Nation Under God.They can skip saying GOD, but you nor your cowardly GODLESS lot will take this Nation any further down the road to perdition.
            You are not on the right side of this bucky.
            BTW. A Judge ruled you athiests DO have your own special day.
            It’s called April Fools Day.;)

          • No, they should not. No child should be forced to recite any pledge and that’s with or without god in it. unbelievable.

          • Yes.. your idiocy is indeed unbelievable.
            We are finished talking.

          • Buh-bye loser

          • Finally!!!!

          • You try that shit with my kids and you’ll be in federal court explaining why you defied federal law.

          • Hey….it is Freedom OF Religion. fella..
            NOT Freedom FROM Religion.
            Get over it.
            I don’t care what you do or don’t believe, but you will no longer dictate to this populace that we are not free do same.
            Your kids can sit out if they choose, & the rest of us will simply go on about our business , INCLUDING THE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG & ……,.PRAYER.
            I am tired of the inmates running the asylum.
            Most people are.
            Can’t just get along.. Noooo.
            Has to be YOUR way .. or else.
            Not going to be that way.

          • We’ll see. I don’t know that you’ve noticed but you’re losing ground and you are a prime example of the reason why.

          • It is not Fed law.
            Only congress can make law.

          • Keep pushing and you will loose…Religious Freedom…You want freedom for men to go into ladies bathrooms but not for the right for others to practice their faith…No one is forcing any kid to pray…Pledging to the country flag that will give you everything you need to succeed in this world is not a bad thing…Who is the narrow minded idiot ???Tell Isis your story and you will loose your head…Get a life…

          • Where did that bullshit come from? I want to protect my kids not expose them to people with twisted sexual predilections.

          • Fact is, you’re full of shit. Religionists do NOT leave us alone and it shows up everywhere. You and your fellow cultists disgust me.

          • I doubt that’s what you’ll be saying there bucky boy.lol

    • That would include the present UN-American occupant of the Oval Office, nu?

      WHEN (not if) the Master Yahushua intervenes on behalf of His people, the children of Israel (Jewish and the non-Jewish majority of Israel), then Pharaoh Barry will fall hard and be broken, just as the Pharaoh of the Exodus came down hard and finally ordered Moses to take lock, stock, and barrel out of Egypt, after hardening his heart for so long. There WILL be plagues on this country that will rock the boat and threaten to sink it, until the Pharaohs of these Dark Ages finally order the children of Israel out of their countries, this one included, and provide us with the means by which to do so. Hundreds of millions of the descendants of Israel will go home to the Promised Land under the leadership of the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus).

      “Omein! Even so come, Master Yahushua!”

    • Inappropriate

    • but the Law also said do not help any poor Immigrants but so many churches has ministries that helps the Immgrants why do you want the Government to ban all churches for helping the Immigrants?

      • Illegal immigrants violate our laws (and the laws of the countries from which they originate). Knowingly aiding and abetting (helping) lawbreakers is also a crime. Legal immigrants have sponsors, including churches, who are charged with helping them. No immigrant should ever place a burden on society with the sole exception of those who have sought and been granted assylum and that aid should be temporary.

    • OUR Constitution grants children the right not to say the Pledge ogf” Allegiance and/or not to say the “under God” portion of it. And, indeed, those who don’t believe in this, are welcome to leave and never come back.

    • Works for me! All who disagree with the Patriotic mores of the United States of America are more than welcome to Pack Up With Goods and DEPART. NO one is placing a Gun to their heads and demanding that they stay!

      • Nobody has an issue with “our Constitution, laws, morals, customs, or ethics”. We have an issue with religious indoctrination which is illegal under the 1st Amendment of OUR Constitution.

        • That decision should be left up to the parents and as such, is a parents responsibility to discuss with their children. Atheist are simply driven to inject their opinions into the activities of schools and any and all activities on any Public place, as a matter of course!

          • You would feel differently if your child came home from school and told you that they said the Shahada in class today.

          • as is shari law,the notion “kill whitey”, an all black thing! woman are less then, paid less, less appreciated; a notion by all womans. lets see hoos did I fofaggot, that all peoples must put up with my sexual proclivities no matter how queer they are?? walk into my shitter queer and I will flush u down the crapper! threaten with u r wet-spot and I will give u a pink-eye! NO! dogshit! u r wrong. and carry a plastic bAG WITH U ATALL TIMES.

        • This is not a matter of religious indoctrination. This is a matter of loyalty to this country.

    • The Pledge has not been recited in a public school since the 1960s

    • StupidConservativeValues

      Then you’ll have to go back from where you came from…you illegal POS!

    • DON’T YOU JUST LOVE ATHEISTS??? THEY LOVE TO BASH EVERYTHING THAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO BASH EVERYTHING. NEXT THING YOU KNOW , WE WILL NO LONGER BE MEN AND WOMEN……..WE WILL BE “IT’S” IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE IN OUR COUNTRY THEN FIND A COUNTRY THAT SHARES YOUR BELIEFS AND BE HAPPY. OTHERWISE , GO OUT AND DO A KINDESS FOR SOMEONE, IT’LL MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. AND BY THE WAY YOUR BELIEFS DON’T BOTHER ME. NONE OF US KNOWS FOR POSITVE ABOUT THE AFTER OF THIS LIFE. NOW DO WE????????

    • StupidConservativeValues

      ¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.

    • StupidConservativeValues

      … Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。z

    • StupidConservativeValues

      Ебать Вы кусок дерьма! Лизать мою мудак. Сосать мой мяч. Я трахал труп матери, в то время как ваш папа взял фотографии. Ваш педофил! FUCK YOU!

    • StupidConservativeValues

      I don’t believe in magic. I think is more like an illusion and really magic. Kinda like religion and stuff like that. You know, all the fucking weird shit in the bible that we all know that there is no way any of it could have happened. But we just go along like it’s real, but knowing it’s not.

    • StupidConservativeValues

      Вы мусульманских любителей являются абсолютной ly stupidliberalsasses. достойны идиотские глупо libetards (которое никогда не произойдет) я позволит вам поговорить со мной. До затем bye bye Обама целуется в задницу.

  4. If you do not believe in God, then you will fall for anything, and I feel sorry for you. I know that many have said that there is no God, but if that were true, and it is not,, then none of this makes any sense. What a miserable life you must lead, thinking that there is nothing beyond this world.

    • EnemyoftheState

      Romans 1

      God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
      18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
      unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. 24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the
      creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen

    • Margaret MacGregor

      I agree. If you don’t believe in SOMETHING (God) you will fall for anything!

  5. These atheist need to take a hike right into hell. If you don’t believe in it that freaking leave the ones that do believe alone. I think Americans are tired of having to cave in to the wishes of the devil which is what you atheist are.

    • Michael Dennewitz

      What’s funier than a fart in a space helmet :: Years ago I worked with some “so-called” athiests. Three were up on some scaffolding when it broke. They were about 30 ft above the ground. And from the time of the breakage, all the way to when they hit the ground, all I could hear was, “OH My God, OH My God!”
      Nuf said??

    • Leave our children alone. Your indoctrination is not welcome in the schools that our impressionable children attend.

      • If you don’t like the way your children’s school teaches, If you don’t believe in God or the United States, then put your children in an Athiest School or teach them yourselves. The other Religion’s have their own schools, why not yours.

        • It should not be necessary for me to hide my children from public schools or to pay twice for my children’s education. Give me my money back and I’ll do precisely that but as long as you keep my money then you should follow the law.

          • Speaking of laws, I don’t see anywhere it says that a child has to participate in the Pledge of allegiance, they can stay seated, not say under God, or wait outside the classroom. If you know your laws then you also know that when your child doesn’t attend a school the school does not receive your tax dollar, the money follows the child unless the child is home schooled.

          • When I taught, children were not allowed to leave the classroom. There was no requirement to participate but they all stood and gave respect.

            Regardless of whether or not my child attends school, the money is confiscated – under no circumstances does the money follow the child to private schools or to the home if homeschooled. Hopefully soon.

  6. Why do we continue to deal with these life forms.
    Haven’t you had enough of the liberal dem bloodsuckers the perverts, bent genders and atheists, yet?
    What will it take for you to get enough?

    • THIS is the only place in the entire Universe; right here on Earth; where you have Right By God and Wrong By God co mingled side by side. THATS why we have to deal with these piles of walking; talking krap; unpleasant as it is sometimes.

      • It was only a century or so ago — consider the intervening millennia — that parents shopped their children off to atheists for indocrination. Frankly, even then, only in America.

    • Well said. No more pc crap from this boy. My wife gets a little upset at me at times but I tell it like it is and say what I think.

      • The easy way is to stop the public pipeline. Shut down the schools. It will save our children and make parents take responsibility again for their own progeny.

        • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

          Listen to YOURSELF! You are spouting Taliban rules. There’s NO room for American Taliban HERE…move on…

          • Taliban? No way. People who want pubic schools can pay for pubic schools.

            What I object to is being taxed several thousand dollars every year to support a pubic school system that knowingly and deliberately smears our kids’ noses into stinking commie sh&t.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            An EDUCATED country is a strong country. PUBLIC (p-u-b-l-i-c) schools are the back bone of a CIVILIZED, progressive country.

          • I agree except that ‘progressive’ is a dirty word, let’s use ‘growing’ instead and tack ‘capitalist’ behind it.

          • Exactly. The public school system is designed to make all our children PROGRESSIVES. That’s indoctrination.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            No. The public school system is to teach children to become literate in the world and to excel to the best of their ability. THAT is not “indoctrination”. You’ve been duped by the indoctrination of hate radio, which (think that drug user Limbaugh) laughs ALL the way to the BANK…at you!

          • Pubic schools are the … er, black boned … administration of an anti-Christian, pro-Stalinist gulag. We certainly don’t want Christians raising their nasty heads there, simply because they pay all of the taxes, now do we?

          • No, we absolutely do not when they’re usurping the Constitution.

          • Move on MFer

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            Don’t have anything intelligent to say?

          • Sorry, low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical c-sucker, you scum are not qualified to judge, intelligent.

      • I’m tired of it, no question in my mind, we separate ourselves from them or the civil war starts

        • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

          Imagine PEACE!

          • Imagine no socialism/communism.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            Communism is dead. Even China has a form of capitalism and Cuba is going fast towards capitalism. Socialism, on the other hand, like PUBLIC schools, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Universal Health care, Police, Fire, Military protection, Food Safety, Medidcal Research are what GOVERNMENT is FOR! Government is for the betterment and protection of the PEOPLE. Government is NOT a business.

          • That’s absolutely moronic drivel. Only an unaware, uneducated idiot believes that. Just look at Venezuela for a prime example of the reality of socialism.

            http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/collapsing-venezuela-is-out-of-food-prepping-became-illegal-long-lines-mandatory_02152016#comment-3563912

          • My Chinese friends who were born there and just came back from visiting there would beg to differ with you on that. Read the Constitution, the only real purpose of the federal government is to provide for the common defense, that’s it. While social security and medicare might be social in nature, they are pay to play, you don’t put in, you don’t get back, but dear leader is doing his darndest to subvert all these programs. We all see what a universal healthcare does to working people, forcing it down people’s throats, driving up costs, while they lose coverage. Then if they can’t afford the new coverage, they are penalized with an equally high penalty. It was never about getting people healthcare, it was about tax revenue, pure and true socialism at it’s finest. You love your government, and wish for a nanny state, from cradle to grave benefits, how sad. There’s no such thing as a free lunch especially from your beloved grubermint. The rest of us taxpayers have to pay for it, so the freeloaders can get their freebies. Typical sanders logic.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            We don’t have Universal Healthcare…yet…

          • Obama has been slinging drones around, dropping bombs on how many different wedding parties? All on our dime.

            Imagine NO TAXES!

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            No Taxes?? Go live in a Third World Country and see what NO TAXES buys you!

          • Prior to the military/industrial complex we did quite well without them and we could do so again if we started charging for our ‘police’ work around the World.

          • Don’t have to imagine liberal dem low life scum bag c-sucker, we know what it is, we will have it again, the only question, how many of you liberal scum will we have to bury to get it.

      • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

        Sounds like your wife is the heart and brains of the family! It takes a woman to heal the country!

    • Say no to all tax measures for “pubic” schools.

      We know that we have to take extra measures for girls and boys who self-identify as “transgendered”, but why don’t we scrap the rest of the crap?

      • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

        An EDUCATED nation is a strong nation. YOU are spouting hogwash that would make us a THIRD WORLD country. Go visit one…you need to see how the THIRD WORLD lives to appreciate what we have here in the good ol’ USA, while the rest of us, already educated REALIZE the benefit of tax supported PUBLIC education for ALL of our children.

        • There are places in the country that have good pubic schools. I happen to pay tons of taxes to support bad ones. No one I know sends his/her kids to these commie rat holes.

          Do Barak and Michelle? Did Hilly-billy?

    • You thing who born evil with dark mind be will change? need destroy.

    • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

      This is 2016. Change is the only constant. The world will change with or without you. It’s better when you go along with our diverse nation.

      • What…… By destroying the very freedoms that make this country strong. You are talking like a socialist, whether you are or not.

        • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

          Socialism is a good word. Fascism is NOT. Hyper patriotism is fascism. The Nazis were fascists…even though they called themselves a “socialist” party. Kinda like Trump calling himself “conservative”.

          • Lol. Socialism is akin to communism, no matter what pretty sounding title you call it, “democratic socialism”. Look at all the so called “Good” socialist countries, Venezuela, Greece, Germany, etc. And their all doing so well now aren’t they.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            Germany is the MOST prosperous country in the European Union! AND they PAY all workers quite well! Venezuela was doomed due to poor leadership.

          • “Was” the most prosperous, not any more. Just like all social experiments gone wrong, they put their socialist ideology above the good of the people. Now their going broke with their immigrant experiment.

          • Going broke? Germany just got put on the US Treasury death watch because the Germans save too much money.

            WE are going broke because we have a pack of drunken sailors at the helm. I don’t care. Dad told me a long time ago that any country that could elect a selfish, corrupt slob like LBJ as a president was doomed to die.

          • I will agree about the us part. We have selfish, greedy leaders that believe the answer to a new problem is a new tax. And then spend what we don’t have.

          • Germany’s economy will go the way of Argentina’s/Brazil’s, it’s just a matter of time. And if they continue to allow Syrian refugees into the country that will come sooner rather than later.

          • That is one of the most idiotic comments you have posted. I have friends who just moved here from Germany and this administration has you COMPLETELY fooled. All you have to do is do to Youtube and look it up, you’ll see that your delusion and their reality are opposite sides of the pendulum.

          • Germany ca. 1940? The National Socialists?

            Adenauer and his Christian Democratic party actually found a middle way which has proven quite successful. A case can even be made for Ostdeutschen Ulbricht and Honeker, who tried to soften the Stalinista death camps, those death camps so beloved by American academics … but don’t ask me to make the case. Ask our friend KGP to explain why socialist death camps are so successful.

          • Hello! Fascism was simply socialism with a human face. “True socialism” was the Gulag, death camps for the gullible.

          • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

            No, hon. THAT was Communism under Stalin.

          • Did you know that under SOCIALIST Jane Sanders’ presidency, Burlington University has gone bankrupt and will be closing their doors forever? I guess her husband didn’t get the government to rescue her and the school. That’s a great example. Too bad the lamestream media won’t cover the story.

      • Dec 2014 11.4% of the people thought that their state should secede from the union.
        Dec 2015, 23.9% of the peopel thought that theiir state should secede from the union
        You liberal dem bloodsucking scum have about 2 years.
        It’s not about politics anymore liberal scum, leave us alone, or we will bury you.
        We will close off the borders to our states, station marksmen there, shoot anything crossing illegally, and go back to running areal country.
        Then, we will kick back and applaud as you liberal garbage starve to death.

        • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

          Only the Texas low info people want to secede. We’d be happy to see them go!

          • You are dreaming,low life liberal dem bloodsucking parasitical c-sucker,
            we aren’t going anywherewe will be right here watching as you scum starve to death

          • Hopefully we can make that happen for you.

    • Why do you assume all atheists are liberals?

  7. Atheists are their own dictators over their kids They force their will onto their kids why they most likely have no Bible in their home.. so why do they bother to ask their kids what they even want for dessert , just dish what ever they want to out on the kids plates , slam it on the table and tell them to eat it and shut up.. Won’t even let their own kids choice and what path to follow .. They would most likely teach them to be haters… Sound more like Ielam and Communism cause that is the path l see them following… Or even follow SATANISM … but atheists have no gods so that lets out the little god satan,

  8. Once again the left uses the Bully pulpit for removing Normal peoples rights The Lgbt& atheist Movement are less than 00.3% of the population If you losers don ‘t like it LEAVE!! Why do the Needs of the Many get shoved aside for the wants and desires of a Few Sickos?? I say send em packing GOD Bless!!! bite It crybabies

  9. EnemyoftheState

    How many children are atheists? How can atheists (who by definition are fools) be so frightened of what they consider to be an imaginary being?

    What does God say?

    Matthew 18:6

    [ Jesus Warns of Offenses ] “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

  10. IgnoreTheFools

    I would dare say most kids look forward to the pledge, especially at a young age, no one has to say it and shouldn’t t be forced too. It is part of who we are and patriotism is a good thing. If a child doesn’t want to take part, fine but they don t need to be coached against it.

    • You are ignorant of what goes on in today’s classrooms. You have no right to coach (indoctrinate) our children.

      • Children are already being indoctrinated. Most kids think that Lincoln was a democrat. Even if you’re an atheist 9 of the 19 commandments are good rules.

        • Ummm, there are only 10 commandments and virtually none of them are moral. The first four have no moral value whatsoever. We need a religious law to convince us that murder is wrong? Seriously? We need to be told to honor our parents? Some of the worst parental disrespect I’ve ever seen happen in good, christian families. The 10th is immoral – if we did not covet (desire) we would not work.

          You clearly don’t understand atheist morals, this article will help with that: http://atheists.org/activism/resources/ethics

          • So no killing, stealing, disrespecting your parents or neighbors is immoral? Yep! You’re a liberal.

          • The point was that the commandments are logical, not moral. No rational person believes that murder, stealing, disrespecting others (especially parents), etc. are morally acceptable, they are not.

            Nope, conservative constitutionalist but you believe what you like – kind of like believing in imaginary things like devils and superman.

      • IgnoreTheFools

        It seems you are the one trying to brainwash our kids, Libs like you are the ones making sharing bathrooms the norm. You take care of Your business and I ll take care of mine. I know what’s right and I ll fight to the end to defend common sense, so Screw you lib.

        • In what way? Because I want the word ‘god’ stricken from our pledge? That cannot brainwash your kids. Now if I was insisting that we substitute the word ‘satan’ for ‘god’ then your accusation would be accurate – but we don’t.

  11. Someone slap this ass, make him a believer.

  12. No child should have to be brainwashed by the commies in control of our public schools. It is time to repeal all public money for the commie project.

  13. I should not have to abide my all of these small groups either.

  14. No pledge no citizenship !

    • When they choose to become citizens, they choose to say the pledge. it should not be forced on anyone.

  15. everybody that is in the us to stay should haft to no and say the pledge of allegiance mostly our children and like dpmp said if you don’t like it then leave and good riddance

  16. ALL Children should have to learn and say the Pledge, they need to have respect for the country they live in, but if a child wants to opt out (because their parent wants them to) that should be allowed. Atheist if you don’t like our Constitution, laws, morals, customs, or ethics move out of the country, I assure you that there will be no one forcing you to stay.

    • No, they should not. You have such tunnel vision that you do not see or respect the feelings and backgrounds of others.

      • If you don’;t believe in this countries customs what the flag stands for then what the hell are you doing here? And apparently you did not read my response, if a child wants to opt our of saying the portion they don’t want to say they should be allowed to. I have a lot of respect for other people, but I also respect the flag and what it stands for. I don’t care what people believe, God or no God, that is a personal choice, but their needs to be respect for our country and flag. Kids don’t have to say the words “under God” if they don’t want to,but they should participate in the rest of it.

        • You’re speaking to me – a deeply patriotic American who insisted on respect from my students? What in the world gave you the idea that I’m not? You do seem to be a bit insensitive to students from foreign lands however – sad that.

  17. I still don’t understand why the atheists have such a problem with the pledge… even if it DOES say “under God” in it. We’re not forcing them to read the Bible. We’re not passing around the plate for tithes. We’re not preaching sermons or even PRAYING, for goodness sakes… what’s the big deal?? It’s all about loyalty and love for COUNTRY!! If they don’t like what America stands for, they should just pack up and go. There’s quite a few countries that wouldn’t mind if they aren’t Christians. If our schools aren’t allowed to instill in our youths a love for country, America might just as well throw in the towel and let those damn Muslims take over. (BTW, where are the atheists’ outcries when Islam is mentioned in schools?!?)

  18. Atheist, Communist and those who are Anti American have always feared the word of GOD and even the
    mere mention of His name sends them into a panic. Much like cockroaches when exposed to light they scurry
    away and hide in the dark. If you are here Legally and Lawfully and want to become an American Citizens then
    you must (NO EXCEPTION) pledge allegiance to the Unite States of America. You have the right as an
    American to your religious beliefs and freedom of worship. But you must obey the laws our our land as
    set forth by our Constitution and our duly elected representatives.

    • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

      Nobody “fears” the word “God”. Some of us just have different beliefs. And we ALL do not continue with what we learned as children. Most of us learn to think for ourselves.

      • Yet you run and hid behind a “moniker” that keeps you safe from others. FEAR is in your
        heart and you cannot deny it no matter how loudly you proclaim a “higher intelligence”
        and reasoning. It is nothing more than you denying a truth that you know exist. You
        would even deny other their religious freedoms to try and justify your own fear. How
        sad.

  19. Far past time for the government to say who should do and not do; let people think for themselves. Seems everything this administration does is directed toward the muslim way; and that is really frigging stupid. A religion that promotes hate? Take it back to the Middle East and let them dissolve their wierd beliefs. Deport those in the US who advocate violence. Live and learn.

  20. Why does the majority of the people have to follow the mis-guided requests of the mindless? They want to force their unfounded mind sets on everyone but if you were to talk to them about the truths found in the Bible they would complain about being prosiletized. An atheist does have Gods that they believe in just not the True God that created heaven, earth, man and everything that exists called nature. Atheists worship the god of dissent, evil, disruption, promotion of sinful acts against people, a god commonly known as Satan, the Devil and hater of the true God who cast Lucifer out of heave for being disobedient. Atheism is not free speech, it is being spokes persons for the plan of Satan to destroy the human personality.

  21. Bunch of libtard morons. If THEY don’t want to conform to social standards no problem, keep their little morons home. Hitlery has been flying around on her broom declaring war on the constitution and the Christianity on which this country was founded. This is what their election day will look like….

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58991c337fafe30ae42d8443113c08e4724bae1501d1a7516ab0b38bbeffed30.gif

    • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

      Our country was founded on FREEDOM of religion and FREEDOM from religion! There was NO Christianity requirement. Time to check the history books.

      • Freedom from tyranny. Our founding fathers included “IN GOD WE TRUST” for many reasons. Not that there was a Christianity requirement, they jst believed in it. The moron in chief wants the country to become Mooslime but, his limited amount of time in office won’t allow it and since keg-legs $chitlery will be tanking in the campaign, perhaps Trump can stop the lunacy that OlBluegums has perpetrated upon this once great nation. As I recall, the words “In God We Trust” are plastered in every court in out once great nation.

        • Strange that they would follow the 1st Amendment so closely with an unconstitutional motto. Human nature never changes and rules are made to be broken I guess.

          • “rules were made to be broken”, the credo of the demoncraps when they don’t want to follow the rules. Just like the wetbacks, even though there are laws by which they could come here legally, they don’t need to follow the rules because morons like OlBluegums and $chittlery tell them they don’t have to.

          • Well I’m a constitutional conservative so you can save it. Experience has shown that conservatives break the rules just as often as any other group when it serves their purpose. Maybe when we start following the law and the Constitution we’ll start attracting more people and start winning more elections.

  22. As long as Inman Obama and the Demon-o-Crats control Washington Anti Americans will have a voice in the media!

  23. All athesists should be shipped out of America and never allowed to come back if they are found trying to commit Treason in America in anyway! The Patriots of America should stand up NOW and be counted!

    • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

      In America, we have NO religious litmus test. So all the “atheists” can vote, work, go to school and enjoy ALL of America’s freedoms…and they do!

  24. Robert M Stach Sr

    THIS IS AMERICA FOUNDED ON THE FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND LIBERTY , NOT A MUSLIM ,OR ISLAMIC NATION THAT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN NOT SAY OR BELEIVE , I PLEDGE ALLEIGANCE TO THE FLAG AND TO GOD SO YOU ATHIEAST CAN KISS YOU MUSLIM ASSHOLE PRESIDENTS ASS AND GO TO HELL !

  25. I say we demand they be sent to the Muslim country of their choice . These people are about corruption and are dictatorial about making everyone believe their way. Hell is waiting and the choice is theirs. .But better get your self out of my way . Take your crap to someone who cares ! Not this country !

  26. I join those who simply say, the child does not have to say the two words when citing the pledge. Simple as that. But no other change is necessary not should any other option be made. Let’s not panic and take a serious part of life out of our lives.

  27. Look if you dont believe in god, thats fine, but dont tell other pepole that they cant ,our even say his name, all you atheists can go to hell………………………………..

  28. Francisco Machado

    What is the value of an oath that has been taken by coercion? There’s even a Supreme Court ruling that no student should be compelled to say the pledge – 1943. “Under God” got added in the mid fifties and isn’t the way I learned it. Probably doesn’t make any difference to an atheist by philosophy, as it’s simply meaningless to them – but there are people to whom atheism is itself a religion and, like many other religions, consider anyone with different beliefs anathema. I prefer God as a personal relationship, private, unregimented and uncoerced.

    • It means a great deal to Atheists who do not want their children indoctrinated.

      • Francisco Machado

        That’s what I said – who react negatively to beliefs antithetical to their own, not to people who are atheist by nature of being completely unconcerned about the issue of the existence or non-existence of a god or gods. When you absolutely know the unquestionable truth about something that is by its nature unknowable, intangible and unprovable (or disprovable) that belief is an ideology, a religion. You must think youngsters indoctrinate very, very easily. I’m afraid of the Common Core history and politics they’ll be taught – now THAT’S indoctrination. The Pledge is not part of the curriculum. In grade school we said it every morning and, at that age, I think I didn’t attach any real meaning to it. We just did it.

        • You do not understand indoctrination and the power of authority over children. I agree with you on the Common Core stuff, it is evil but it is no more evil than any other type of indoctrination that undermines parental authority. You would be furious if your children said the Shahada in class and with good reason. It is not a prayer, it is a pledge and some take its utterance very seriously. Were you a Saudi Arabian working in the US for two or three years, you would not be happy to learn that your child had been forced to pledge allegiance to the US flag. We need to stop indoctrinating other people’s children.

  29. Roy Fredrichsen

    O.K. We dismantle ALL the Confederate Memorials, take “In God We Trust” off all our money, take out all the religious aspects including Mohammed and we end up with NO Moral guidance which makes us worse than Stalins version of Communism ever was. That is when, Like ROME, we disintegrate to “caveman” status. Is that what athiest are promoting?

  30. Since their whole life stands for nothing why would you expect it to change when it comes standing up for something.

  31. Archie Cogollos

    Another pathetic ridiculous cause…for those reaching out for their 15 minutes….you don’t wanna say it fine…you feel uncomfortable tuff shit…there’s other places you can live…when in Rome do as the Romans do…there was a reason they said that!!!!!!

  32. disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

    I recited the “pledge” EVERY DAY for 12 years in Catholic school back in the 50s and 60s. How many times do I NEED to pledgy my “allegiance”? I’m NOT doing it anymore…I’ve pledged enough already!

    • We’re not talking about old, delusional morons like you. The subject is the pledge and school children. Did you old timers kick in?

      • And no school child can/should be forced to say it.

        • `When in Rome. If you don’t want your kid to follow the rules of THAT school, simply home school them or send them elsewhere. Great person you must be to want to teach your kids they don’t have to follow rules. How is it that you think we’ve ended up with all these entitled moronic kids who will elect $chitlery or Burnout into office? Elect one of them and your women won’t have a choice but to wear a burka. That is something either of those 2 idiots will be ok with.

          • I want the schools to obey ‘Rome’s’ laws and not the desires of a cult even if that cult is the majority.

      • disqus_KGPoEhQkwi

        With age comes wisdom…with you…not so much. And it’s NOT “old timers”, it’s Alzheimer’s. Is that too Germanic a word for you?

  33. independent thinker

    The atheist says that religion should be taught at home not in the schools. Well so should their lack of religion (actually lack of belief in God since atheism has been declared a religion).

    One other thought, I never hear of the atheist protesting the teaching of anything concerning the pseudo religion of islam in the schools.

  34. The idea that any American should not say the Pledge is bull! No two ways about it. It’s an excuse to exploit a viewpoint and is totally without merit. If you cannot pledge allegiance to your country, it is not your country. If “under God” truly is against your beliefs, omit it. Simple as that. There is no law that says you MUST include those words. But to use this as an excuse to not say the pledge a disgrace. IF you don’t believe in your country, why are you living in it?

  35. if you scum bag liberals do not want to say the pledge,just don’t,but do not try and force those who want to be an American and say the pledge not to.Just stand there and look like the asses you are.—by the way—-
    GOD BLESS AMERICA—-if that offends you,you can kiss my rear end…. .

  36. Atheists and non-believers obviously see only from their perspective. Their minds are shut like steel traps against God and country. They shout “Indoctrination!” at those of us who believe in God and country, when in fact they are constantly indoctrinating youngsters who are sufficiently innocent to accept the “No God, No Country” indoctrination from rabid adults who insistently profess no belief in God and the U.S. Constitution. To what end do these “No God, No Country” people aspire?

    Many of these who are adults cannot hearken back to the Hitler Youth times, where those children of the Nazis were so steeped in Nazism and killing “for the Fatherland” that they had to be regarded by American soldiers as the most dangerous of the worst. They had become so single-minded in their missions which constant indoctrination had produced, the result was the making of child-like heartless murderers. Many of them could not be taken as POW’s. Their NAZI indoctrination also brought them to believe that fighting to the death and always to the end striving to kill their enemies was their only recourse.

    I often compare the Hitler Jugend to the children of Hamas and the PA who’ve also been brainwashed to behave like the Hitler Youth of the twentieth century. The only difference existing today is the children of Hamas and PA do their deeds for Allah, whereas the Hitler Jugend were sworn to their god, Adolph Hitler. The question; while their brain-washers believed they were producing “atheists,” were they really atheists? Or, were they taken at the ages of “tender years” and taught to believe in the god of Nazism, Hitler? And, what were the consequences for German children, and for that matter, today’s Arab children, who were and are misdirected by evil teachers to become human weapons? It’s a totally confusing question, to which there will be a multitude of answers. I think that we are seeing wasted young lives, who are taught to waste other lives, and for the most evil of purposes. The question is actually beyond my own reckoning, I cannot rationalize why young lives are so wasted for the hate they carry.

  37. Dexter L. Wilson

    Here we go again. The atheist seem to forget what happened to Ms. O’Hare by the rest of her atheist friends. Not only is she burning in Hell, but all of her remains were ashes. Now, there was no Christian to pray for her proctection from the Devil except her son who became a Christian. Her choices made this country suffer and it is still suffering today. Benjamin Rush, the Father of Public Schools said that if you remove the Bible from the Classroom we would have more violent crime that we would not be able to deal with it. Guess What!

  38. The phrase ‘under god’ was unconstitutionally inserted into the pledge. Remove it and the issue goes away. Of course there is still the issue of the children whose allegiance is to a different country. As an ex-teacher/substitute teacher, I can attest to the pervasiveness of that issue. I do not feel that it is useful to force children to break allegiance with their country of origin, that is a process that takes time.

    OTOH, I believe that they owe respect for our pledge/anthem and I required them to stand silently as we would be expected (demanded) to do if we visited their countries.

    • Don’t like God in the pledge? Run to your safe zone.

      • I do not. It is insulting to many people and especially to those people who you would want to become citizens. There is no requirement to believe in a god to be a citizen and many citizens don’t. Why do you feel it appropriate to force your belief on others? Is that not tyranny?

  39. The real truth about the atheist deal is they hate religion…They can’t relate to people that believe in something they can’t see, feel ,smell or touch… Some believe in Santa or the tooth fairy for a long time….It’s not hurtful to those children that believe that…They figure it out…Kids in school are learning by remembering what they are taught…The pledge of allegiance is a great tradition and an odd to our beliefs….As young people they will figure out what they should or should not believe…Don’t they have that right ..?

    • No, we hate what religion does. Hundreds of millions of people have been butchered in the name of one religion/god or another including christianity. Religion kills.

  40. Any atheists not wanting to say the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’S Pledge of America can go live in the “Muddled East” with all those towelheads who also don’t believe in our American values or faith.

    Atheists have the right to believe what they want, but they DO NOT DICTATE DOCTRINE TO OUR CHILDREN OR OURSELVES IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WAS FOUNDED ON CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES! If they feel the need to “prey” on “OUR” kids with their confused and unsubstantiated beliefs, they had better watch their backs because We the People are done with their unfounded and hurtful actions.

    STAY OUT OF OUR CHILDREN’S SCHOOLS!!! ATHEISTS AND HOMOSEXUALS CAN CREATE THEIR OWN DENS OF SIN AND CONFUSION IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR HOMES, BUT DO NOT VENTURE INTO A WORLD WHERE YOU TWEAKS DO NOT.BELONG…SOMETHING NASTY WILL BE WAITING FOR YOU.

    After Trump is elected, both you “subcultures” may want to find another country to live – your kind of misguided America will be swept out the door…and you with it. Your twisted thinking should have never been allowed and has NO PLACE IN AMERICA…PERIOD.

    So take your cocky attitudes/arrogant selves and find a country who thinks like you. Good luck with that — there are NONE! Perhaps an uninhabited island in the.Bermuda Triangle will suffice?

    Just keep your filthy hands/ideologies off our children!! Back off or else! Parents and Grandparents are done with your trash thinking and that “Liberal” created excuse called political.correctness – be gone from all children’s lives and be gone from our Nation and take those homosexuals with you!

    • Nobody is trying to dictate to your children, we are trying to prevent you from dictating/indoctrinating ours. Keep you religious beliefs in your churches and your homes and out of public schools.

      • Wrong…keep your own ideologies away from ALL school children – Period! That means reigning in those atheist radicals who arrogantly think they can change things up. PRAYER FOR YOUR INFORMATION IS NOT DONE IN SCHOOL!!!!!

        WHat the Hell are you talking about. We are discussing saying the Pledge of Allegiance – which for your info is not a PRAYER! It is a pledge to support our country and.TWEAKS like you need to get your info straight! No wonder this country is such a mess with prople like you commenting on subjects they know nothing about.

        Just so you are aware…many, many Americans are DONE cowtowing to the radical Left…more people than you can imagine, many many more. Things are going to change not to your liking in the not too far future. Life isn’t going to be like the Left thinks, but a reverse for everyone. Just be aware. It’s nothing you nor I can change…it will just happen. Your “radicalism” has tipped the scales of good and evil…the world can only take so much evil and then Mother Earth revolts…it is coming.

        My suggestion to you is to home teach your children if you don’t want to be a part of our Nation. The U.S. was built on Christian Foundations. If you don’t like that — please leave. No one is going to bend over backwards to please someone who refuses to honor our Country. They will, however, ask you to leave. Better start researching other countries to live in. America isn’t available for you or any other dissident to bend to your demands. It’s going to all STOP soon.

        • Of course, I wouldn’t dream of doing otherwise. Can you make the same promise?

          Careful, you’re losing it.

          • I had plenty of opportunity to sway children because I was a teacher both in elementary and secondary schools. But unlike many clueless libs, I didn’t feel it was my place to teach religion to my students, God knows how many children could have used some help in that area. But I never interfered with that part of their lives because that is for parents to do, not public.school teachers.

            Another startling fact is that I gave my own children a Christian.religious education when they were in elementary school. By the time they were high schoolers it was up to them how they worshipped or didn’t worship. Of course I didn’t pressure them, but they chose worshipping God because of my example of how I lived my own life.

            All children should be free to make that decision and no organization has the right to try to remove that right from them, especially any atheist group. They are way out of line here and need to back off.

            Funny, you didn’t flinch abt the event that is going to change things up for everyone. Easier to think I’m a cuke snd doesn’t know what I’m saying. You’d be wrong. Learn about prophetic dreams and then think about what I said. I was told about my mother’s cancer battle and her death via a very disturbing prophetic dream 20 years before she died. I was also shown that our Civilization will disappear and the only thing left in D.C. will be 3 columns of the White House, nothing but rubble for as far as you can see and Philadelphia Ave was a dry river bed. Lots of moaning and wailing and intense sadness covered America.

            Scary dreadful prophetic dream…and there is nothing I can do to change it from happening. Why do you think this will happen? Yes, you guessed it — people turned away from God and the world stumbled and fell.
            Believe it or not, but it will come true just like all the other prophetic dreams did…

          • Re. teaching, you’re a rare bird indeed. Most teachers believe that they’re obligated to indoctrinate.

            Unlike christians who are always in your face, no atheist group has ever tried to take belief from anybody. We will happily discuss our positions and why we feel the way we do but it’s up to the individual to decide. Atheists believe strongly in the separation of church and state and that is primarily because religion does not mix well with government in general, it invariably ends with a state sponsored religion and it infringes on our right to raise our children as we see fit.

            As to the prophecy crap, sorry, I don’t buy that.

          • I concur with most everything you said except the prophecy thing. I wish I didn’t have those dreams because they are horribly frightening – especially when it’s about losing your Mother when you are 17 years old. I couldn’t even tell her at 17 because that would be validating my dream.

            I told her abt my dream when she became sick and went in the hospital 20 years later — abt 6 mos before she died. She didn’t seem surprised and said there were many mysteries that happened to me as I was growing up from age 2, many where I should have died, but was saved by some quirk of fate. She said I should keep a journal of those strange things. I never did because many things I didn’t want to remember — too scary — so I have blocked them. She also said “Fate” happens even when we don’t want it to.

            But the main subject matter of this blog is atheists making sure our kids don’t have to say our U.S. Pledge of Allegiance. The “Pledge” isn’t a prayer to God and it doesn’t even have the phrase “under God” in it any more, so why would atheists make such demands? What they are doing is undermining our Country by turning our children against it by allowing them a choice when this subject matter has no choice!

            If our Country doesn’t pull itself together and become United as a whole, we WILL become another 3rd World Country with its people destitute and poor and the Govt running our lives, I.e. “Socialism”– the killer of countries! We as a people need to be strong and present a united front that controls our Fed. Govt, not the Govt controls us.

            That Pledge needs to be memorized by every U.S. citizen so we can act as a whole not a bunch of independent factions trying to out power the other guy. If we do not come together as a whole, we will lose our Nation. You don’t have to be a Christian to see the danger in the road ahead – there are red flags everywhere and most of them were caused by obama. TMI. I’ve done so much research on that person that I feel I know every cell in his body…and none of it is good nor real. But that is for another time.

            Americans need to be united, no matter race, creed, or culture. The “Pledge” is an integral part of bringing us all together from childhood, a united front that makes our Govt work for us, not the other way around. It’s the beginning of learning to work together, to strive for a strong country, to make better lives for all of us. It has to start somewhere and school is the best place to remind all kids we are all in this together. Anyone not wishing to do this (say our Pledge of Allegiance) is nothing but the weakest link in the chain…and America can’t afford that to happen any more.

          • Sorry, not interested in your psychological problems. See a shrink.

          • That’s okay. Wasn’t asking for your opinion, just stating facts.

            Don’t believe in shrinks. Everyone I know who went to one is more screwed up than before. Don’t need them, don’t want them, don’t trust them.
            Have a nice life…chao.

    • As soon as you equated atheists with homosexuals you showed your complete lack of intelligence. Some people will notice that, but I doubt if you will.

  41. Atheists. They are offended by something they don’t believe in! How about shut up, they definitely believe in that.
    Why aren’t these atheists being offended over schools making girls wear muslim garb? That dress code is religious…what’s the matter atheists AFRAID to call out the muslims that are insisting on every sharia?

    Until you creeps take a stand against islam in our country and the rules our government is enabling them with…shut the hell up. Disgusting hypocrites ALL!

    This is from CNN so the trolls can’t accuse this crap as being a Right Wing Conspiracy!
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/30/us.school.headscarves/

  42. Atheist are the scum bags of the earth. Without atheist the earth would be a safer place to live. Atheist have no moral compass consequently nothing is right or wrong with them. Sickos.

  43. As a Constitutionalist, I never say the “indivisible” part.

  44. The Atheists should make their own pledge, but then who would they pledge to? What DO they “believe in”? Nothing? Something? Themselves? That’s it they can pledge allegiance to themselves. Oh they already did it.

  45. I’d like it better if they didn’t say God in it but what’s the big deal anyway? I grew up saying it; said it in the Army and still believe in all the other parts of it. If you’re loyal to this country you should ignore that and go ahead and say so. Stupid point to use because you’re to damned lazy to stand up and say it. If you won’t say Pledge of Allegiance your should be considered a terrorist and run out of the country. For the people who don’t believe Atheists have a right to their beliefs you can my royal red azz!

  46. Robert Kahlcke

    This is American culture, if you don’t like it get the Fuck out.

  47. George E. LeFebvre

    Just remember that the National Atheist Holiday is APRIL 1ST fits well doesn’t it.

    • A bad joke. . .

      ” The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists , atheists , and other secularists and freethinkers in response to the National Day of Prayer , a legal holiday in the United States.[1] [2] The day is celebrated on the first Thursday in May of every year, to coincide with the National Day of Prayer , which many atheist and secular groups view to be unconstitutional.[3] The purpose of the National Day of Reason is to “celebrate reason—a concept all Americans can support—and to raise public awareness about the persistent threat to religious liberty posed by government intrusion into the private sphere of worship.”[4] The National Day of Reason is also meant to help build community among the non-religious in the United States.”

  48. It is possible to love this country – to feel patriotic – without being religious. The idea that God favors this nation above all other nations is ludicrous. God loves all his children and doesn’t play favorites. Why would anyone worship a God that did?

    “Under God” was not in the original pledge. Maybe it’s time to remove those two words so that ALL patriotic Americans can repeat the pledge.

  49. it’s strange & unfortunate how a very small group of idiots & LGBT are able to screw up the vast majority of patriotic Americans.

    • It is strange and unfortunate how the majority tries to oppress patriotic minorities who disagree with them. Fortunately we have the Constitution to protect us.

  50. Exactly…You hate religion…Religion has done nothing to you …It’s an excuse to get five minutes attention…In God we trust is not a threat to you or me…You are a threat to freedom…

    • Why? Would we really lose any freedoms if ‘under god’ was removed from the pledge? Or would it, in fact, encourage more people to become citizens?

  51. Loving America

    Maybe you will not be able to enjoy them for long! Anyone that does not adhere and
    wants to be a tyrant and committ treason against Americans and America could be put to the test to rid and send you where you all would be happy under China or Russian Rule…. then you could get together and jabber your athesists butts off with the rest of the residents in those Countries!

  52. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

  53. With so many students who are not citizens of this country, schools should adopt the position that the pledge not be required. However, there is no reason not to stand up while others say the pledge out of respect for the free education that they are provided at the expense of the American taxpayer.

  54. To live in America, you should uphold our American values. If you don’t, then you don’t deserve to
    live here. Ship ’em out, we don’t need godless haters…….

    • And who is us? In my experience it is always christian values that have to be upheld and that is unconstitutional. Maybe it’s short sighted religionists with tunnel vision who need to leave the country?

  55. More bs. Children to decide when they grow up. I hope they make a better decision than these whiners and hope they grow up.

  56. Loving America

    In early years the educational system taught Us the Patriots that tyrants come in all sizes, religious beliefs, and beliefs that border on being treason against America when they push and dictate over religious beliefs which include non-believers trying to convince everyone to sway to their side. The crashing of America could be led and directed under non-believers which is communist connected. Sorry but the Old
    educational leaders were right!

  57. time to purge the devil-worshipping atheists! and the witchunter lawyers that work for them.

    • Only people who believe in the Christian concept of God also believe in the devil. Atheists believe in neither, so why would you think they worship a devil they don’t believe exists?
      Pardon me, but your ignorance is showing. LOL

  58. Come on, anyone with an eight grade education and the ability to reason knows that there is no such thing as an atheist. People who sadly delude themselves, obviously.

    • I take it you didn’t graduate from the 8th grade. dumbass.

      • Actually I did. I also read. In the 13th century Thomas Aquinas put forth 5 ways to prove the existence of God. These proofs have NEVER been disproved by the best minds in the world.

          • Like I said no successful refutation, not even at PATAS. Weak.

          • Weak to you and that is fine. Believe. Have faith. I do not find the arguments logical or compelling. Just don’t lay the imaginary friend crap on others – especially our children.

          • How can saying the Pledge of Allegiance have any effect let alone an adverse effect on children who recite it? What causes the hatred from atheists?

          • Replace the word ‘god’ with the word ‘satan’ and get back to me on that.

          • If there is no God then there is no satan and “Might makes Right” and I’m done.

          • I agree that there is no god/satan but might does not make right. Think the Inquisition.

          • What about the inquisition. Without God, the strong are right and the weak are toast. How can you refute that? Night follows day and day follows night. It’s obvious!

          • Really? You’re suggesting that your god was in control of the Inquisition? I rest my case.

          • If that’s the best case you’ve got, you need to remove yourself from the field.

          • Your perception of us, ‘hatred’, is incorrect. We do not hate – you can’t hate what does not exist. Now what does exist is prejudice and indoctrination and speaking to my children of your imaginary friend and his pal, satan, and especially in so formal and official a manner as in our pledge, is indoctrination as would be the mention of ‘satan’ or ‘allah’ or ‘ra’ in its place. Would your child not ask leading questions if our pledge said “under Ra”? Think about it.

  59. The atheists are pretty cocky now but, when they stand in judgment before God and are cast into Hell, they’ll sober up pretty quickly.

  60. Green Eyed Lady

    Horrible. Don’t add to the destruction of our safe and unique way of life. Our children deserve the best.

  61. Crazy atheists! If you are an American citizen you know and want to say the pledge of allegiance to our country and homeland that once was but has been delerately destroyed via plenty of forethought and BIG money bribes!

  62. eat shit commie you don’t like the pledge get the hell out the USA maggot

  63. All there is to say to these idiots in Florida is ‘Beat it”. Clearly they are not from the U.S.. Clearly they have a bad opinion of America and all it stands for .Clearly they should leave and not be recognized whatsoever. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass, ASS(donkey)

  64. They do seem to be against anything and everything that is good and right!

  65. The Pledge was dropped from schools about 50 years ago. Can’t right-wingers come up with anything but stupidity.

  66. How about this right, if you don’t want to swear allegiance to this country get the he!! out. Go somewhere that you can swear allegiance to.

  67. A.C.L.U., atheists , socialists, communists… in America all of your kind are free to spout off and believe what ever you want, just quit trying to force your anti-American garbage down the rest of patriotic Americans throats. If the American way is too free for you to handle please feel free to thumb thru travel pamphlets to find a deprived country that would suite your specific needs. When you find one, feel free to go there and loose you American passport and citizenship papers along the way…With one more America hating loser gone , there will be one more breath of clean air for an AMERICAN LOVING person to breath

  68. Guys like me served our military proudly and gave athiests the right to be insanely stupid. What is more worthless than a person who so blatantly hates as do these knuckleheads? That you could spend your entire life hating makes you no better than the terrorists who massacre children, women and old people, tells us that you may prefer the company of isil………of course, they would then destroy whatever sense of humanity you have left. I’ll pay your one way ticket out or America……but you have to promise NEVER to return to America!

  69. There are some people who are basically nothing and have no standing at all in this nation. Therefore, they become something of something and in this case it is The Central Florida Freethought Community filled with atheists. I wonder if any of these freethinking atheists have ever been in a war and shot at by somebody who wanted to kill them.

    • Many have of course.

    • Is that what it takes to be an American in your view? Millions of people have never been in a war and never been shot at – that’s probably most of the people who are posting here. Are you going to tell them they are “nothing”?

      Think before you type, fool.

      • Nope. It is just that atheist have for the most part, never stood up like they are now. They had nothing. Now all of a sudden they become something of something (freethinkers) they call themselves. I would think that most of us are freethinkers or have the right to think how we wish to think. My comment in regards to being shot at in an attempt to kill was that there are no atheist in foxholes. Please keep in mind that I served this nation over 23 years and yes, I fought a war for it also as a Ranger Reconnaissance Senior NCO, Combat. If I did that to let atheist have the government remove God from our pledge, then yes, I am a fool. Free thinkers have no right to shove their beliefs down our throats.

        • I also served. There were a lot of bullets flying in Nam. Among other things that could also kill you.

          I was raised Catholic, but after all I’ve seen I studied many religions and found most of them lacking. I don’t think atheism is the answer, either (I’m a Deist) but most atheists I’ve met got there by seeing through religion’s nonsense.

          Don’t get me wrong. I DO believe in God, I just don’t believe in Religion. And I don’t think God does, either. There is only one God, so if He condoned a religion there would be only one religion. Even Christianity has 681 different denominations. At least 680 of them must be wrong. Maybe all 681?

        • Should we not stand up and express ourselves? Do we not have the same 1st Amendment right to free speech that you do? Do we not have the right to demand that our children not be indoctrinated? You would be the first to scream on the White House steps if the word god in the pledge was changed to allah yet allah is no more offensive to some people than is the reference to a god is to others. The government does not have the right to support one group of Americans over another.

        • Totally incorrect.
          The athesist in foxhole fiction no longer flies with educated, thinking people.

        • Oh, and the “under God” was added in 1954 — when the Cold War really started to gain speed.

          It is a bit of government brainwashing propaganda. You see, the Soviets were portrayed as Godless.

  70. Marcus Antonius

    I have been an atheist for at least 70 years and I say the pledge. It is not anyone else’s responsibility to tell others what to say or not say, when it concerns a personnel matter. The Pledge of Elegance is a personnel matter. So you other atheists, Shut the hell up, grow up, and go about your business and leave others to do what they choose to do.

    • Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.

      • Marcus Antonius

        It most certainly does !

        • No, it doesn’t. You don’t get to tell anybody to shut up or go away or to leave others alone. The pledge is offensive for two reasons and we will continue to work to change it. If you don’t like it — tough.

          • The words “under God” were added in 1954.

          • Yep, that would not happen today.

          • Well, that was a time when the Cold War was heating up. Government brainwashing propaganda taught people to believe that the Soviet people were godless.

          • Marcus Antonius

            It is only offensive, if you choose to try and control others and what they believe and say. Instead of going about your own business and ignoring what others say, you choose to control them. I suggest you go live in some nice Marxist State, like Myanmar, and control what the people say and do there. Your agenda is a form of tyranny.

          • Once again, your words do not affend (or affect) me at all. Your words affect our children which is unacceptable. Shut up and we can all live in peace.

          • Marcus Antonius

            I am not trying to affect you or offend you, just make you think. That I see is not possible !

          • Ditto, clearly I failed as well.

      • The words “under God” were added in 1954.
        Those words are not those of theo author, or our Founder’s beliefs.

  71. Richard Trundle

    YOU GUYS ARE THE CRAZY PEOPLE ON EARTH> KEEP THANKING THAT AND IT WILL BE REAL HOT WHERE YOU GUYS OR GOING,

  72. A true atheist does not care about the word GOD because they don’t believe. Those that hate the word are devil worshipers and Satanists. They should also be declared a religion and forced to follow the same rules as the churches do.

    • To Chicken Shit Anonymous:

      False. While the word god is meaningless to us just as are the words devil and satan, we care about all of those words because they are used to indoctrinate our children, to instill fear where there is nothing to fear.

      We are perfectly aware that you are commanded by your silly book to convert the whole World. You are devious and insidious and you know that you need to get into children’s minds early. We are forced to care.

    • I have covered that over and over and over again. If you are not comfortable with changing the pledge to “under Ra” because that word is meaningless to you then you understand our position.

    • LOL.
      Satan is the devil.
      Maybe you should educate yourself.
      You are spounting nonsensw.

  73. peeweetanner@yahoo.com

    the atheist should be rounded up and sent to RUSSIA then they will not bother anyone else in their rights or beliefs

  74. WHY IS IT THAT THOSE WHOS NUMBERS ARE FEW ARE ALWAYS HEARD? THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIZENS WANT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE ,JST THE WAY IT IS AND THAT IT IS SAID EVERY MORNING IN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS PERHAPS IT IS TIME THAT THE FEW WHO HAVE THE BIGGEST MOUTHS HAVE A SOCK STUFFED IN IT,AND THE MAJORITY VOICE IS HEARD AND ENFORCED. GOD BLESS AMERICA ,INSPIITE OF OUR SELF DESTRUCTIVE DEEDS. GO SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU FOOLS AND PLEDGE WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT TO WHAT EVER YOU WANTBUT GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

    • StupidConservativeValues

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    • Because minorities have rights too. The whole purpose of the government is to protect the minority against the oppressive majority.

    • The Pledge has not been recited in public schools for at least 40 years.

      Until 1892, there was no such thing as a Pledge of Allegiance. The author, Francis J. Bellamy, who was a minister and an advocate of the tenets of socialism.

      The Bellamy Salute consisted of each person — man, woman or child — extending his or her right arm straight forward, angling slightly upward, fingers pointing directly ahead. Yes, exactly the same as the Nazi salute.

      On December 22, 1942, Congress, just before its Christmas break, took care of it. On that day, the amended Flag Code was passed, Section 7 of which decreed that the Pledge of Allegiance should “be rendered by standing with the right hand over the heart.”
      The words “under God” were not part of the original author’s work. Those words were added under in 1954.

      • IS THERE A POINT HERE? THIS NATION WAS CLEARLY FOUNDED ON CHRISTIAN-JUDEAU VALUES. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. IF YOU DON’T LIKE SOMETHING YOU DON’T BUY IT,EAT IT, OR WHATEVER. IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE LIFE YOU HAVE AS A CITIZEN OF THE USA,THEN GO AWAY. MAYBE RUSSIA OR ONE OF THOSE WONDERFULL COUNTRIES WHO BELIEVE WHATEVER WAY YOU DO. WE WELCOMW PEOPLE HERE WITH OPEN ARMS,THAY ARE FREE TO BELIEVE AND SAY AS THEY WISH. THEY ARE NOT AT LIBERTY TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY TO CONFORM TO THERE WHIMS. PLEASE STOP THE FOOLISHNESS.

        • “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man”- Thomas Jefferson

          “Lighthouses are more useful than churches.”- Ben Franklin.

          “It is the fable of Jesus Christ, as told in the New Testament, and the wild and visionary doctrine raised thereon, against which I contend. The story, taking it as it is told, is blasphemously obscene.”- Thomas Paine

          “The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession.”- Abraham Lincoln

          “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”- James Madison

          “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”- Thomas Paine

      • And gay used to mean happy. My how far we’ve ‘progressed’ 🙁

  75. StupidConservativeValues

    ¿POR QUÉ ES QUE ESOS NÚMEROS ESAS SON QUE POCOS SON SIEMPRE ESCUCHADOS? LA GRAN MAYORÍA DE CIUDADANOS QUIERE LA PROMESA DE ALLEGIENCE, JST LO ES Y QUE SE DICE TODAS LAS MAÑANAS EN TODAS NUESTRAS ESCUELAS QUIZÁ SEA HORA DE QUE LOS POCOS QUE TIENEN LAS BOCAS MÁS GRANDES TIENEN UN CALCETÍN RELLENO EN ÉL, Y LA VOZ DE LA MAYORÍA ES ESCUCHADA Y FORZADA. DIOS BENDIGA A AMÉRICA, INSPIITE DE NUESTRAS ACCIONES DESTRUCTIVAS DEL UNO MISMO. IR A ALGÚN OTRO LUGAR QUE ENGAÑA Y COMPROMISO CUALQUIERA QUE SEA EL INFIERNO DESEA LO WANTBUT OBTENER EL INFIERNO FUERA DE MI PAÍS.

  76. StupidConservativeValues

    … Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。v… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。… Oscumbag のおかげで、”cold war のように見える”再びランプアップします。”Flybys を行うジェット戦闘機「ソビエト ヘリコプターの軍艦、私たち西海岸オフに飛んでソ連の爆撃機の写真を撮る。だから “over”私達のホワイトハウスで座っている無策があるのでないと思います。

  77. StupidConservativeValues

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  78. StupidConservativeValues

    De konservative er i kærlighed Hillary og Obama! De konservative er i kærlighed Hillary og Obama!

  79. Teach the children the meaning of,the reciting of our PLEDGE,include the same”INRE”our great U.S.constitution,ALL its amendments,,then load ALL athiests,ILLEGAL ALIENS,the current DOJ the current SCOTUS,the current legislative,everyone in the W.H./include All associated with the W.H.,load them ALL on high capacity airships,with VERY low fuel,tow them out over the Pacific Ocean,then send the/our U.S.Airforce out to”play” target practise with the”balloons.”

    • You do not seem to understand much of the Constitution.
      Suggest you sign up for a COnstitutional Law class at your local college.

      • SAVE any suggestions you may and APPLY THEM TO YOURSELF.My first encounter with ALL our U.S. national documents began”approx” 69 years ago.In our past internet encounters I have stated to you”perhaps you read,but you DON’T COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ !! I will not respond to any future responses from you !!

        • I have studied law.
          I have cases cited in law books.
          You obviously have very little legal training and/or experience.

  80. Be assured the atheists will be calling on GOD to save them 5 minutes after they land in hell!

  81. OF COURSE MINORITIES HAVE RIGHTS TOO! SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TO PRESERVE THOSE RIGHTS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE A MINORITY AND HAPPEN TO HAVE A BIIGER MOUTH,THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE MAJORITY SHOULD NOT BE HEARD. THE MAJORITY STILL NEEDS TO BE IN CHARGE ,RIGHT?,MAJORITY RULES. THATS HOW WE VOTE. ITS TIME THAT THE MAJORITY IS HEARD. SUCH AS THE 85% OF THE CITIZENS THAT BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TRANSGENDER BATHROOMS,AND ON AND ON IT GOES WITH THE LUNACY. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF ALL OF THE LEFTEST CRAP.

    • Where did you get your numbers?
      Citation please.
      You see, the majority of America does not agree with you — they simply don’t care.

      • THE VERY LATEST IN PUBLIC POLLS. AND YES MOST PEOPLE REALLY DO CARE. THEY JUST DON;T WANT ANYONE TO KNOW, THEY DON.T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. I BELIEVE THE POLL WAS THROUGH THE WASHINGTON POST,BUT COULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH OTHER MEDIA AS WELL. IT DIDN;T MATTER TO ME AT THE TIME. SEEMED REAONABLE ENOUGH. THE MINORITY VOICE AS USUAL IS THE LOUDEST,SO THEREFORE PEOPLE JUST ASSUME THAT THE VOICE IS A MAJORITY. PRETTY CLEVER REALLY,IF YOU ARE FAR LEFT. JUST LET THEM THINK THAT,RIGHT?

  82. Abu Tom Subject: TWIST THE TRUTH. THE WAR BETWEEN COMMUNISTS AND SOCIALISTS.

    Subject: LETS TWIST AGAIN THE TRUTH IS COMING

    DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THINGS WERE REALLY HUMMING. NOT TO WORRY TRUMP IS COMING.

    AMERICANS who look the other way will be slapped in the face for the first time in their life that there is a takeover of the democratic in name only party. Bernie Sanders and the communist party will over power Hitlery Clinton and the socialist party will be defeated and relegated to a lesser role in the new communist party..The difference between A socialist and communist is socialism is the next to final stage. Socialists pretend to endorse peaceful revolution until they can murder their way to control. Sander’s communist party is ready to go violent. We have already seen previews of coming attractions. Never forget the 45 goals of the US communist party since 1963 many have already been realized. Goal number 15 is capture one or both of the political parties in the USA. SEE RENSE.COM

    Once it becomes apparent that Hitlery cannot win. She will be betrayed and abandoned like she was last time. They kept her at bay promising her the next presidential win. The Bolsheviks took over Russia promising bread and freebies. Sanders who honey mooned at Lenin’s tomb has promised free stuff from tuition to half thy neighbors goods. Once the communists realize El Trumpo is coming they will kill Hillary politically and support the real communist.

    This is the closest time in history that the communist revolution is on the threshold of capturing the USA. Obama is going to join Hanoi John Kerry in Hanoi and spit on the American war mongers WHO ELECTED HIM.

    Will Hanoi Jane sing the Internationale? We are all going to see how great the communist victories have been since the end of WWII. They control the universities and the media. 40 days before 911 forty eight senators voted to burn the flag. They called it freedom of speech. See you tube flag burners of record abutom. In addition 55 days before 911 one hundred twenty five Viet con grease mice voted to burn the flag. 80% of flag burners are baby killers denying children about to be pulled apart anasthesia. They said baby’s don’t feel pain as they get $3400.00 per brain. See you tube save the kids abutom.

    There is a saying: You never miss what you never had. Our freedom is on the line and two generations already have no idea how many freedoms they have lost. Stalin once said in order to destroy the USA three things must be destroyed first. Spirituality, Morality and patriotism. How are we doing?

    The supreme court is already in the hands of the communist party. The supreme court upheld a law to kill babies. All those original judges are now on trial in heaven. Witnesses to baby murder flock in from the USA at the rate of 4700 babies a day.

    Bill Ayers once told Obama that 20% of the country will never surrender to communism and must be liquidated. El Trumpo will never let that happen but if we put him in the oval office with no back up. He will fail. As the tidal wave sweeps him into the presidency it must also wash out all opposition. Let’s have one big flush and a clean sweep.Like the scene in the Godfather, today the American family settles all business.

    Think of the money we will save not having to build three bathrooms A 2% rise in the GDP will kick off the recovery.

    The new world odor deceivers and their communist media allies won’t be able to sing let’s twist the truth again. Any body who says things are better in Europe has no idea We never wanted to be like Europe. We are Americans and if we fall who will take us in?

    TRUMP IS THE REAL REVOLUTION.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/trump-may-have…

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/trump-and-secretariat…

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/trump-can-start-a-second…

    TRUMP TAX PLAN EVERYBODY PAYS TWENTY DOLLARS

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/trump-will-open-the…

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/…/fbi-endorses-trump…

    BRAZILIANS VOTE FOR TRUMP .http://www.jibjab.com/view/Dj5Y2guoRJ-aUrNpUqSelA

    ARGENTINIANS VOTE FOR TRUMP. http://www.jibjab.com/view/Ez_EuZrXR-m2gyuLMikppA

    MEXICANS LOVE TRUMP http://www.jibjab.com/view/-YqpouV8SiWUDWWve5_b4Q

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/spi…/2016/04/13/trump-is-love

    • ..
      Why do you need to tell this lie?
      Why do you embarrass America this way?
      Why do you believe it is acceptable to lie?
      Why do you believe it is acceptable to repeat lies?

  83. why don’t we just go back to an older version of the pledge that did NOT include god?

  84. While being an atheist means that one has everything to live for and, literally, nothing to die for, it is precisely because the atheist has everything to live for that s/he needs the security provided by government. Government can not function successfully or reliably without allegiance and loyalty. Atheists are a part of the diversity of America which makes allegiance and loyalty irrelevant.

  85. If these Atheists do not want to say the pledge, why would they prohibit others from doing it? They are insane and they should be exiled to a Muslim country where they will learn quickly that there is God.

    • Nobody want to prohibit anybody from saying the pledge. sheesh.

      • It’s their ultimate goal as I read it between the lines.

        • And you read between the lines why?

          • Why not? Let me give you an example: The gay marriage. When they got their legal right to marry, they did not stop there. They want more. They want the straight people to accept them. And not only that, they want the government to force people to accept them no matter what, whether it’s against their religion or not. And if they don’t comply, they sue them. Got it?

          • What has that to do with saying the Pledge or believing in some bullshit god?

          • -It has to do with satanic-influenced thinking. Another example is the transgender. First they want to be accepted as they feel from day to day. Feeling man today and woman tomorrow. And then they want to use both men and women bathrooms according to their feeling, not their birth gender.
            -And by the way, why do you hate God when you don’t believe that there is God? Why hate someone that you believe doesn’t exist?
            -Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior says in the Bible “In the beginning, God made male and female and they become one flesh. God created two genders, not three or 4.
            -I have shared with you good arguments and I now rest my case. I will be praying for you. God has created you and He loves you.

          • Oh bullshit. You people need to get over yourselves. There is no satan.

            I’m with you on the bathroom issue. While these people do deserve a place where they can relieve themselves comfortably, they do not have a right to insist that everybody else has to be uncomfortable and in danger. The only solution to this problem are individual rest rooms.

            As to the god thing, no thanks.

          • There are NO Atheist dwellers in fox holes. After being around the dead and dieing I might suggest that World History shows a “very long” period where a multiplicity of gods were “given offerings”;then, came the Jews and One god, known as GOD.
            This GOD had but one requirement—–ENJOY THE WORLD HE CREATED——-a simpleton can (by simply viewing of a flower) wise to the reality that the World did not “self create” from “pond scum”.
            GOD gave life thru Mary a Human Child whose sole purpose was to be an “offering” to the gods , HIS ONE AND ONLY SON. If You do not accept that, it is up to Your “free will”; but , do not deny the children that GIFT.

          • Yep, he had requirements just like all the gods before and as will all the gods that come after. Yawn.

            So how many times did the all powerful, all knowing god of the Bible change his mind? How many times did man upstage him and get a repreive? How many times did he contradict himself? Why did he send satan and his minions to this third rock from an average sun in an average galaxy out of a universe of billions of galaxies where later he decided to put the creatures he created in his own image rather than blinking satan and his minions out of existence or sending them to another dimension? Why is god so stupid? Why do you believe in such a stupid god?

          • Gary Von Neida

            none are so blind as those that refuse to see. Do this, go to the Grand Canyon——look over the edge (north or south rim) then pick a flower and look close——GOD, none less made this, least thee forget and realize thou are but ash in time whereas these will persist

          • Which god? Are you absolutely sure you’re praying to the right supernatural being? Or is that a non-sequitur?

          • Gary Von Neida

            The GOD of Abraham.

          • I guess that’s as good an imaginary friend as any. Enjoy yourself, I’ve got better things to do with my time.

          • You will rot in hell

          • Opinion noted.

    • What about we go back to the original Pledge?
      The words “under God” were added in 1954 as part of the Cold War brainwashing.

  86. So “they” feel offended, huh? I could not care less. “They” chose to reject the Son of God, our Lord and Savior. “They chose to deny the Deity. “They”, in effect, chose to go to hell. So be it.

    May “They” have a change of heart, opening up to God’s grace, His Son and the Holy Spirit, in the Name of Jesus, Amen.

    • “They” do and ‘they’ have every right to do so under our Constitution. I suggest you read it sometime.

      • I suggest you learn to read properly and objectively. Not subjectively. You can avoid taking comments disagreeable to you out of context.

        Certainly, “they” have every right to do so under our Constitution. Hence the operative word “chose”, which effectively recognized said right, i.e. freedom of speech, assembly, religion, petition the government.

        Mr. Smith, obviously you found my prayer for them offensive.

        If it did, simply reject it. You have a 1st Amendment Constitutional Right to do so.

        As stated previously, I could not care care if “They” or you are offended.

        • Thanks for your suggestion, I’ll take it under advisement.

          “, obviously you found my prayer for them offensive.”. . .I could really care less about any prayer you might utter unless it intersects with my children’s ears at which point I will strenuously object.

  87. Kirby A. Morrison

    If you refuse to pledge allegiance to the USA. The GTFO of this country!

    • StupidConservativeValues

      Amen brother….get the fuck out if you can make a pledge to OUR God and OUR country!

      • “Our” god? I don’t think so and you have no right insisting that ANY god or goddes is our god or goddess. That’s what gets people killed.

    • Another narrow minded twit.

      • Kirby A. Morrison

        If you’re not proud of this country and support it . Then as I said get your F#$!king ass out of it! Paul Smith! Is that narrow minded enough for you!