Another Day, Another Phony Russia Story Debunked

Unless you’ve simply begun skipping over any political stories that include any mention of “Russia” in them – a practice you would be within your reasonable rights to exercise – you may have seen some of the supposedly-blockbuster articles that came out last week. USA Today, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and others carried water for this bombshell, which threatened to change the entire 2016 election narrative in an instant. According to this story, not only did the Russians use social media trolls to influence the election, and not only did they hack into the DNC, they actually tried to hack the voting systems themselves.

Yes, the story went that Homeland Security officials discovered – all the way back in June – that at least 21 states had been targeted by Russian hackers. The hackers may or may not have been successful in getting through these defenses, but they definitely made an attempt. And really, some of the darker reports suggested, there was no way for us to know if vote totals had been altered. Even if we could prove conclusively that they hadn’t been, there was still great concern that, through manipulation of the voter rolls, Russia may have suppressed the vote in some of the most closely-contested swing states. States like Wisconsin, where the Democrats have already charged Republicans with using Voter ID laws to keep those pesky blacks away from the polls.

All in all, a hugely-consequential story. Essentially, we can no longer trust our election infrastructure. We can no longer trust the vote totals. Hillary Clinton may have actually won. Donald Trump is a fraud. We are now Russia’s client state in all but name.

Horrifying.

And, as you may have guessed, completely fake.

From The Intercept:

So what was wrong with this story? Just one small thing: it was false. The story began to fall apart yesterday when Associated Press reported that Wisconsin – one of the states included in the original report that, for obvious reasons, caused the most excitement – did not, in fact, have its election systems targeted by Russian hackers.

The spokesman for Homeland Security then tried to walk back that reversal, insisting that there was still evidence that some computer networks had been targeted, but could not say that they had anything to do with elections or voting. And, as AP noted: “Wisconsin’s chief elections administrator, Michael Haas, had repeatedly said that Homeland Security assured the state it had not been targeted.”

Then, the Secretary of State for California said that after they had conducted their own analysis, they’d determined that DHS was completely wrong in their assessment. They couldn’t speak for Wisconsin or the other states, but there had been no intrusion – Russian or otherwise – into their voting systems.

Homeland Security continues to obfuscate on this issue, but the fact remains that there is no proof – NONE – that any hackers from Russia or anywhere else tampered with our election infrastructure. In fact, as we should probably remember, there is no public proof that Russia hacked the DNC.

We don’t know how much of this story is a hoax, how much is being hidden from us, and how much of it is true, but we do know that when you compare the EVIDENCE to the NARRATIVE, there’s a huge gulf.

And it keeps getting wider.

 

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  1. If this all turns out to be a hoax, which it likely is, the perpetrators must be identified and forced to pick up the enormous cost that the taxpayers have been hit with to pay all the Clinton and Obama supporters hired to investigate the ruse.

    Just Sayin’

    • Yea, “just sayin'” – just saying what needs saying and desperately needs doing. Taxpayers should definitely not be paying their enemies’ bills…….and the political left IS THE ENEMY OF DECENCY AND MORALITY, thereby trying to destroy our wonderful nation. Unfortunately they have brought our nation down several pegs already…..a few more pegs and our nation is GONE. The left wing nuts MUST be neutralized, and if our government would do its duty, we would not be in this mess.

  2. When has comparing the evidence to the liberal media narrative ever not shown a huge gulf?
    They lay blame for their stunning loses on everyone but the actual culprit. Themselves, and what can only be described as the most bizarre nosedive into depravity in modern history. This kneeling during our anthem is just their latest low.
    In the last year or so we have witnessed constant marching and sign waving that frequently turns into rioting, looting, mass flag burning and targeted violence while they’re bravely ‘fighting’ entirely imaginary hate with the real thing. Vagina hat wearing lunatics screeching obscenities at the top of their lungs while threatening to blow up our Whitehouse because of entirely imaginary hate while seething with the real thing. Antifa embarrassing themselves over and over with perhaps the most ridiculously contradictory and child-like philosophy ever concocted while running around in Halloween costume’s with cans of their own feces and nail studded bats fighting entirely imaginary fascism with the real thing. Continual, casual calls for the most sickening violence against the President, his family, his administration and conservatives in general by celebrities, talk show hosts, sports figures and politicians holding up severed heads while claiming to be the tolerant and compassionate ones. Outrageous rhetoric, hysterical accusations, constant false charges of a whole laundry list of ism’s and phobias and hyperbole that grows more extreme and childishly silly by the day that clearly has no basis in reality whatsoever. Attempting to force ‘transgenderism’ on our military and our children while trying to force ‘white privilege’ down our throats while they smugly condemn us for not ‘caring about children’ based on nothing but the empty accusation while assuring us that a baby is just a clump of cells ten minutes before birth that can be casually disposed of if it would inconvenience a ‘feminist’. And let’s not forget illegal aliens, who seem to have developed a passion for joining in the new liberal pastime of burning our flag. Then making constant demands and screaming about their rights in a country they have no right to be in, shouting down an elected official who then not only praised them for shouting her down, but for breaking our laws in the first place. This list could go on and on and on. Of all the ways Democrats, in their endless quest for more and more power and control have tried to divide us, to sow the seeds of envy, rage, greed and discontent, to cause exactly the same hate they claim to be fighting, to defile our culture, our beliefs, our way of life, our freedoms, our history, our flag and our anthem, the symbols of our unity. And yet they spend so much of the time they now have on their hands wondering why America rejected them. Unbelievable.

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    • WOW! Great commentary, totally on target, and a most interesting read. The political left becomes more and more deranged and downright nasty. They cannot win by spouting their philosophy because they have none except those issues that they believe Russia or Syria handle the best. The political left is NOT what the previous true liberals in our country were. Our once liberals were of sound mind, true Americans who loved America, were as honest as the rest of us….they were as they SHOULD BE: REPRESENTATIVES who used their brains to make decisions, NOT their emotions. Democrats and Republicans at one time could mostly work together to get the proper things done because BOTH loved their nation. Such is absolutely NOT TRUE today. Today’s democrat is either extremely stupid or extremely determined to rule the nation, come hell or high water. IOW, they will do whatever it takes to make all the laws as they cannot continue to survive without their decadence and hate. Decency and morality are their enemies, and that makes them sub-human in my book.

      • I think you left out a few other things that they lack, like ethics, common sense, honesty and I’m sure if I thought long enough I could come up with quite a few more!

        • LOL! I can come up with more and have done so dozens of times on these sites. I sorta get tired of enumerating the numerous things leftists lack: morals, integrity, logic, love, empathy, sympathy, and souls to name a few. 😉

          • Yup, Yup, Yup – I’ve done the same thing many times as well, but you just added one I hadn’t thought of that’s one of the very best I’ve ever seen “souls”. I absolutely love that one, thanks for reminding me!

          • Any time ~

          • Thanks for the chuckle.

          • The circle jerk continues…

          • You realize, don’t you, that your mob mentality depends on your constantly reinforcing each other’s bullshit.

          • The only “mobs” that I know exist are either left wingers OR the mentally deficient, frequently one and the same. The right does not do “mob” stuff like smear people with feces, defacate on cars, appear half naked, leave the streets a mess. Nor do we engage in “mass” crap – that is a leftist thing to protect each other. What I speak is not BS, you have that confused with YOUR comments which I suppose you are not capable of understanding, but then, the left is not radically intelligent OR observant, but that’s another conversation.

          • What’s so terribly sad, love, is that you actually believe that bullshit.

        • Their lack of “SANITY” immediately comes to mind.

        • You can come up with a lot, as long as you realize that you’re making it up to suit your stubborn opinion that you are right to support the likes of Donald Trump.

          • Most of America supports Trump. Try reading sometimes something other than the NYT and the WaPo and Huffy. Many others actually report truthful reports, but you have to hunt for them. Whenever you want to join the human race, give me a sign and I’ll introduce you to some decent sites besides this one…..there are thousands of them where you can hear logic and truth.

          • Don’t forget Tasine, liberals have never been known to have used the words logic or truth. Both of those words simply don’t exist in the hollow voids of their cranial halves nor do they exist in their vocabulary,

          • I know. They are devoid of intelligent human traits…….I must assume; however, that they have few qualities if any that resemble what I have always known as human behavior. These leftists behave as rabid animals out for blood or death. They sure did keep those personalities quiet and protected for the most of the past decades. But as soon as Obama was installed in the WH, all hell broke loose and the creatures exited their cages and began to wreak havoc on civilization.

      • My dear, when you have taken leave of your senses, as you apparentky have, the sane people appear to be crazy. If you are as unaware of what democratic proposals are as youvseen to be, that’s your fault, not theirs. And calling political enemies sub-human is a sure sign that you aren’t operating on a reasonable plane of reality. Even a swine like Donald Trump squeaks by the definition of human, so get your mind out of the sewer an open a window or something. You need some fresh air.

        • Biggest lie you have told today. The very last thing I will ever be is YOUR “DEAR”. Everything else you said is the same old left wing lie philosophy. I wish you would get a life, for goodness’ sake…..oops, I guess the word “goodness” scrapes on your mind.

        • Actually Jim Dandy, I feel his description of you and your kind “sub-human” fits pretty well and is spot on!

    • Ronnie Cowlishaw

      That could not sum these low lives up any better, thank you people on the left need to read what you said and do a reality check on them self’s.

    • You are right on the money. Thank you. Something needs to be done about them . First and foremost the should be considered terrorist, no if,s and,s or but,s . The fact is if you dress like , carry weapons like , use the same tactics like a terrorist then you are a terrorist. This should have recognized from the start and they need to spend some hard time ,

    • “AWESOME TO THE MAX”!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SPOT ON !

    • Well stated… Kind of sound like the progressive endgame of top down, bottom up, inside out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iiiD-Fh32Q

      For more insight:

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    • Fantastic analysis and right on the mark. Interesting that the left never mentions that they ran the most corrupt candidate in US history, very unlikeable and admittedly guilty, along with the party high-ups, of rigging Bernie out of the primaries. Not that I was a Bernie supporter, but his treatment made blindingly clear the corruption of the left and the American people said, “Enough,” in a loud voice and elected a total outsider. THAT is the spark that has brought in so much outside agitation, outside money and angst from the radical left globalists. America was, and still is, on the brink- socialism/marxism at the bottom of the abyss, civil war to the left with the anarchists of all stripes and true Americans desiring a return to traditional values. I’m not a good enough psychic to see where this will end, but I do know the country I grew up in and love has virtually disappeared before my eyes in my lifetime. I can only pray and help as I can to turn our government around through the election process. We have made progress, but there is a long way to go. God help us survive the spineless and evil forces set against America.

      • So true…ever notice the so-called authorities will NOT arrest nor prosecute one democrat crime…NOT A ONE!

        • charles johnston

          That is what is mind-boggling, Ron. The evidence is everywhere, and we supposedly now have an AG who will get things done. So what’s happening? Nothing. My dad said years and years ago that the democrats and republicans are now just two arms on the same dragon. Trump is trying to drain the swamp, but he’s swimming upstream against a river full of aligators, many in his own party. I would love to see an ocean of orange jumpsuits on a bunch of democrats, but I won’t hold my breath. Be well.

          • Really! When is Sessions going to arrest crooked Hillary and all the other crooked democrats?

            Donald Trump is my AMAZING PRESIDENT and like he promised, president for all AMERICANS!
            President Trump is the best president ever and the most brilliant leader in the history of the world! MAGA, greater than ever before! AMERICA and AMERICANS FIRST!

          • Crooked Hillary 4 Prison
            All Americans that care about this country, need to write their Senators & Representatives every day and demand that crooked Hillary be arrested, prosecuted and punished for her crimes against America and the American people!
            COPY, PASTE, EMAIL BELOW MESSAGE TO YOUR SENATORS & REPRESENTATIVES EVERY DAY!
            I want to know why Hillary Clinton hasn’t been arrested for her crimes against the government and humanity. This woman has broken more laws than can be counted on both hands. If you think that Hillary what difference at this point does it make, that four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods died Clinton, hasn’t broken many laws, committed treason and was a complete failure as Secretary of State and a WPOS Senator, you aren’t fit to be a member of Congress! I am an American citizen and I demand justice for all. Hillary Clinton is not above the law, she is a criminal, she risked America’s national security and certainly is not fit to hold any government position in the greatest country in the world!
            HILLARY CLINTON BELONGS IN PRISON!
            The Equal Protection Clause is part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The amendment which took effect on July 9, 1868, provides that no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction “the equal protection of the laws”.
            Anyone with a functioning brain should understand that this means all criminals shall be held accountable for their crimes as well, aka protecting law abiding citizens from such criminal elements (equal protection under the law)! I demand that Hillary Clinton return or replace the six billion dollars that went missing from the State Department when she was Secretary of State, that is taxpayer money and we want it! LOCK HER UP!

          • CROOKED CLINTON’S
            Crooked Hillary Clinton belongs in prison and it is the responsibility of every member of Congress to put her there.
            She violated federal law when she used a private email server and that alone is enough to arrest and prosecute her.
            She also lost or stole six billion dollars of taxpayer dollars from the State Department, most likely the latter.
            She lied to Congress and she lied to the FBI and lying to either is a felony whether under oath or not.
            Hillary Clinton is guilty of treason by nature of the fact that she emailed government information, from confidential to top secret via a non government, unsecure server that anyone could access and the entire world knows they did.
            Any Representative or Senator that is not pushing for the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton is not fit to be part of the Government of the United States and should resign immediately and denounce their citizenship.

            I demand Hillary Clinton be arrested and charged with treason! I also demand that Hillary Clinton replace or return the money she lost or stole from the State Department, most likely the latter!

            WHO ELSE CAN STEAL FROM THE WHITEHOUSE AND RETURN LESS THAN HALF THE LOOT, STEAL SIX BILLION DOLLARS FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND EXPOSE AMBASSADOR STEVENS LOCATION IN BENGHAZI THAT LED TO THE DEATH OF FOUR AMERICAN HEROES, LIE ABOUT IT AND STILL BE WALKING AROUND FREE? THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF HER NATURAL LIFE!

          • CROOKED HILLARY 4 PRISON
            Crooked Hillary Clinton belongs in prison and it is the responsibility of every member of Congress to put her there.
            She violated federal law when she used a private email server and that alone is enough to arrest and prosecute her.
            She also lost or stole six billion dollars of taxpayer dollars from the State Department, most likely the latter.
            She lied to Congress and she lied to the FBI and lying to either is a felony whether under oath or not.
            Hillary Clinton is guilty of treason by nature of the fact that she emailed government information, from confidential to top secret via an non government, unsecure server that anyone could access and the entire world knows they did.
            Any Representative or Senator that is not pushing for the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton is not fit to be part of the Government of the United States and should resign immediately and denounce their citizenship.

          • PRES. TRUMP MUST TO FIRE SESSION. I THINK HE IS A R I N O !!

          • Your father IS exactly correct. America is controlled and run by “the ruling class” which is made up of leaders of the democrat communist party and the GOP establishment(aka rinos). .

          • My dad pointed me to the Anti-Federalist Papers, which until then I didn’t know existed, and George Mason, Patrick Henry and other patriots warned that the federal government would become a new ruling class just like the king. Looks like they were pretty damn good psychics as well as patriots.

          • I originally read the Federalist Papers to find out more about James Madison, someone that has pretty much ignored or at least pushed into the back row. Shortly after that I found out about the Anti Papers. There were even more that were against federalism for the very reason you state. Even Jefferson railed against a “central bank” as more dangerous than a standing army in several of his writings. But the guy that most people are taught is a great hero is Abraham Lincoln who basically entrenched federalism by elevating the “UNION” (federal government) to the omnipotent category. He single handedly abolished the Tenth Amendment which was the keystone element to the free republic that was originally intended for America to be. From that time forward “states rights” were totally ignored by Congress and more importantly by “state legislatures”. If I am correct state legislatures have never mounted a single challenge to the rein of terror from the federal government. As potential future members of Congress, why would they want to negate their powers over us.

          • charles johnston

            I think Oklahoma has passed a law covering the 2nd amenement in their state and citing the 10th as foundation. I have heard that similar mpves are on the floor in other states. I hope the push to revive states rights continues, but the Fed hates these ideas. Be well, my friend.

          • I’m with you all the way. The place we have to put greater pressure is at our own state legislatures. Most of these people think they are playing in the junior varsity because the Union (aka federal government) has been so overreaching. Technically they do not have much of the authority they are using because the Constitution says so. Listen to the awful lies and fear tactics Congress uses against those calling for an Article V Convention. They call it “dangerous”. Yes, dangerous to them. The Founders created the Article V and left it for their posterity for and as the sole method of reining in a rogue government short of a revolution. Congress deserves to have much of the power it has confiscated over the decades returned to the people of the states.

          • As I look now, the only dangerous flaw in the founder’s thinking was that they never conceived of a career politician. In their day, serving in government was a duty and a sacrifice, to finish and get back to their busuness, farm, whatever, as quickly as possible. Livelihood as a government toady was a foreign thought, even though some saw the danger and warned against it. Article V is a definite danger to the status quo in DC, buy it may be necessary.

        • The dems have way too much on everyone in DC to worry. The GOP always protect their cushy do nothing jobs and they will do nothing to expose the dems.

      • You are absolutely correct about the “outside money” and I am dumbfounded why George Soros is allowed to live and breath on US soil. Whistleblower magazine devoted an entire volume years ago listing close to 100 organizations, named to sound patriotic, that Soros supports for the sole purpose of undermining and over throwing our form of government. Just because we pride ourselves as being a “free country” does not mean we have to allow Soros and others like him to be here working their evil. I understand that Soros is “wanted” by Russia. Why does the US not turn him over to Russia or at least Israel as a “persona non grata”?

        • Beats me, Maxx. The best thing that could happen to the US in the near future if got that mazi to walk in front of a large bus. The number of organizations is now up to about 170. Soros is like a termite. He’s everywhere. Surprised sombody from mosad hasn’t taken him out long ago.

          • I would liken Soros as being like the common cockroach, always scampering around after dark, lurking and hiding out in the darkest of dark shadows, dwelling in the sewers of the underworld, pillaging and plundering everything and everyone he comes in contact with. His demise couldn’t come soon enough!

    • WELL SAID!! Your comment should be published!!

    • and then there is this..One of your sources for facts one might think…..

      https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas-massacre-has-hallmarks-being-scripted-deep-state-democrats-and-their-islamic/218106

      Natalie- Your are an excellent writer…why don’t you respond to my replies to your comments? I have tried to be objective because of you writing etiquette….but you just “post and run”.. What’s up with that?

      • If I were looking for facts I would not go to media matters, nor should you. It’s why you’re so very misinformed and frequently make a fool out of yourself commenting on actual, real facts based on that liberal nonsense. You have never, as long as I’ve seen you posting been objective Rich, you’ve been like every other smug liberal looking down their nose at all those they feel are beneath them based on a false sense of superiority and the same false information you mistakenly believe gives you that superiority. If you were truly objective you would be forced to admit, based on the abundance of real, actual fact that it is liberal ‘progressives’ who control the media and the narrative, which is why sites like this exist. Without them their would be no dissenting views, or reality at all.

        • Way to go Natalie, he needed that, well done!

        • “If I were looking for facts…” Am I to assume that you are not interested in facts?

          “You have never, as long as I’ve seen you posting been objective Rich, you’ve been like every other smug liberal looking down their nose at all those they feel are beneath them based on a false sense of superiority and the same false information you mistakenly believe gives you that superiority”-
          Everything you post is opinion with no factual of documented back up-You are accusing me of you own behavior-I have repeatedly ask for you to provide documentation for your opinions and you have never complied-

          “…which is why sites like this exist. Without them their would be no dissenting views, or reality at all.”

          I assume you are referring to the Alex Jones site-

          https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas-massacre-has-hallmarks-being-scripted-deep-state-democrats-and-their-islamic/218106
          Do you think this is reality?

          • I’ve replied plenty Rich, one time I even asked you why you didn’t answer my reply. Was it because you had no liberal babble to answer with? You’re a liar Rich, and you continue to try to prove ‘fact’ using a liberal site that provides none in the same predictable smug tone. It’s embarrassing, and boring. You’re smugness appears to be all you have. How does it feel to be part of a group that has come to be identified by it’s smug arrogance and empty, strutting rooster like superiority?

          • “I’ve replied plenty Rich, one time I even asked you why you didn’t answer my reply. Was it because you had no liberal babble to answer with?”

            When you have replied you failed to provide factual documented proof for you opinions-You have simply accused me of being a liberal and a fool.

            You’re a liar Rich, and you continue to try to prove ‘fact’ using a liberal site that provides none in the same predictable smug tone. I have no recollection of this -please provide an example.

            Why won’t you respond to .-

            https://www.mediamatters.or

            Do you think this is reality? Don’t you think Alex Jones actually said this-do you think this is fake?

          • Media matters is a ‘progressive’ website dedicated to misleading fools like you into embarrassing themselves by going on sites that report actual facts armed with nonsense to ‘fight’ entirely imaginary hate with the real thing. I don’t watch Alex Jones, know very little about him and fail to see what point you’re trying to make here. Except that you get your ‘information’ from a site where I spotted several glaring falsehoods in the momentary glance I gave it. I also notice you appear to believe repeating my posts back to me somehow gives yours more legitimacy? Or something, or perhaps it’s just another opportunity for you to practice your smug. Why are you here Rich? Really? Do YOU have proof of Russian collusion, or any of the absurd, empty accusations liberals so love to make? Can you back up any of your ‘points’ with documented facts? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

          • “Media matters is a ‘progressive’ website dedicated to misleading fools like you into embarrassing themselves by going on sites that report actual facts armed with nonsense to ‘fight’ entirely imaginary hate with the real thing.”

            So what are you saying here-It is really difficult to understand- In the first though it would seem as though you are saying Media Matter is “progressive” and all “progressive thoughts .ideas are not factual. I can’t understand the rest of your statement-Please restate so I can understand

            “I also notice you appear to believe repeating my posts back to me somehow gives yours more legitimacy?”

            I quote a statement you make so you will know what I am specifically referring to and will give a response to that sprecific subject

            “Why are you here Rich? Really?”

            For a similar reason you are-Here is a quote from you-

            (I am on this comment section for this purpose)

            ” Leading leftists into making fools of themselves with their own words and exposing their absurd hypocrisy is a hobby of mine..”

            For me substitute for “leftists” -“far right crazies with non fact based opinions”

            Here is your reason-

          • You used up a lot of space to say nothing, answer nothing and provide no facts at all in the same smug tone you’ve been using all along while. Like I said Rich, boring, embarrassing and repetitive.

          • “Can you back up any of your ‘points’ with documented facts? Go ahead, I’ll wait

            Which “points” are you referring to?

          • Quote you-

            “Can you back up any of your ‘points’ with documented facts? Go ahead, I’ll wait

            Which “points” are you referring to?

          • Something to back up your stance!!!!!!
            Copied From Girls Just Wanna Have Guns!

            “During the whole Trump Jr. scandal, you would think with the way Democrats have been acting that they’ve never sought the help of the Russkies .

            Turns out their ‘white hats’ are stained with guilty finger prints.

            Here a 5 former leading Democrats who tried to use Russians to leverage them into office.

            1. Former Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA). He reached out to the Soviet Union for election help twice.

            According to Michael Reagan, Sen. John Tunney (D-CA), at the behest of his friend Ted Kennedy, lobbied the Soviet Union “to sabotage [Jimmy] Carter’s foreign policy efforts,” as this was during Kennedy’s primary challenge against Carter in 1980.

            “One 1980 document stated that Kennedy offered to condemn President Carter’s policy toward the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in exchange for KGB help,” wrote Reagan. “News accounts of that period prove that Kennedy did, in fact, openly criticize Carter’s Afghanistan policy.”

            In 1983 Kennedy also reached out to the Soviet Union, attempting to impair Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy and weaken his re-election chance in 1984.

            He even offered to set up TV interviews in America to make the Soviets seem more “peaceful.”

            2. Barack Obama said to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev: “After my election I have more flexibility”, in 2012.

            These words were captured on a hot mic, meaning no one was supposed to hear them.

            Obama was communicating to Medvedev he needed Putin, the newly elected Russian President, to ‘give [him] space’ on Russia-related affairs until after he was elected. To which Medvedev replied, “I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you.”

            Obama even snarked to Romney during a 2012 presidential debate, “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

            Once Obama was re-elected, Putin took advantage of Obama’s “flexibility” with invading Crimea and taking lead in Syria.

            His ‘white hat’ is hardly clean.

            3. Jimmy Carter attempted to leverage the Soviet option to improve his chances in the 1980 election against Ronald Reagan.

            Michael Reagan also noted in his column that Carter, through his political ally Armand Hammer, lobbied for the Soviet Union to let “Jewish ‘refuseniks’ emigrate to Israel” to strengthen Carter’s standing in important states, but the Soviets rebuffed Carter.

            Interestingly, Reagan biographer Craig Shirley wrote in one of his books that during the 1976 election, the Soviet Union “had made overtures to the Carter campaign,” even going as far as suggesting “that they could possibly pursue policies that could affect the outcome of the election so as to favor Carter.”

            4. Bill Clinton tried bargaining a deal in 1996. He promised support of Russian President Boris Yeltsin, if Yeltsin agreed “to clear up ‘negative’ issues.”

            The Washington Times found a confidential memo in 1996 that revealed the following: President Clinton, in a private meeting at the recent anti-terrorism summit, promised Boris Yeltsin he would back the Russian president’s re-election bid with “positive” U.S. policies toward Russia.

            In exchange, Mr. Clinton asked for Mr. Yeltsin’s help in clearing up “negative” issues such as the poultry dispute between the two countries, according to a classified State Department record of the meeting obtained by The Washington Times.

            Mr. Clinton told Mr. Yeltsin that “this is a big issue, especially since about 40 percent of U.S. poultry is produced in Arkansas. An effort should be made to keep such things from getting out of hand,” the memo said.

            Bill Gertz, who reported on the memo and is now an editor for the Washington Free Beacon and a columnist for The Washington Times, explained that the memo “exposed the Bill Clinton style of leadership — going to bat for his political donors and other vested interests in his home state of Arkansas.”

            5. Former Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill wanted the Russkies on the Democrats’ side during the 1984 election.

            Michael Reagan stated in his column, O’Neill told Soviet ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Dobrynin, “that it was in everyone’s best interests if the Soviets would help the Democrats keep ‘that demagogue Reagan’ from being re-elected.”

            “O’Neill warned Dobrynin that the ‘primitive instincts’ of this ‘dangerous man’ would plunge the world into war,” penned Reagan.

            Each of these examples, with the possible exception of the Clinton-Yeltsin one, were easily worse than Trump Jr. agreeing to a meeting with a Russian government lawyer for dirt on Hillary Clinton. Again, this does not excuse Trump Jr’s sleazy behavior, but it does show that the Democrats are more than happy to do the same thing when it helps their side.

            –Daily Wire

            Next time a liberal cries Trump Jr. is colluding with Russians, show them this article.”

          • while you are wasting your time on another “trump non issue” , this is going on-What is Trump doing about it? Zilch.

            http://www.msn.com/en-us/ne

          • Natalie, LOVE your post(s)!! Richard is a LibTURD! I took note that MOST of his recent replies to you is copy/ paste of your reply to him!! HE IS A TROLL!!!
            Here’s one for you to toss back at him, it sums it up greatly!!

            “Arguing with leftists is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious.”
            from RealScience.

          • Thank you for the kind words and the laugh. Leading leftists into making fools of themselves with their own words and exposing their absurd hypocrisy is a hobby of mine. I work hard for my living and to provide theirs, so I consider it a fair trade off.😁

          • Well then my dear, no offense intended, “Give’em H E L L!!!!!

    • I believe that sooner rather than later the left, which is the home of all these organizations you mention, will be dealt with. The patience and tolerance of good decent Americans is pretty close to the “flash point”. Just make sure you have a method to defend yourself and family because what will take place will not be pretty but is necessary to save America as instituted by “our founders”.

      • I hate to say it but 100% agree about the flash point rapidly approaching!! Keep your powder dry and stay locked and loaded!!
        Not looking forward to it as even though I’m up in years I still have my wife and adopted daughter to worry about!! Me? I’m half in the casket health wise so bring it on!

        • Hey I am 7 decades plus and still causing trouble for the liberals, communists, progressives or however you refer to them. We old guys and gals are the only ones that know what America was intended to be. Our history was rewritten for the texts but now our history isn’t even part of the curriculum. I know a lot of old guys that are willing to fight again if called again.

    • Obama and his LIBERAL NAZI party stated all of this,they like us to be be divided and then concur ,this is the whole socialist idea!

    • No true American would disparage people exercising free speech as depraved with a lowlife like Donald Trump in the White House. Too bad you aren’t bright enough to get the meaning of the vagina hat, or loyal enough to your country and it’s Constitution to support free speech even when you don’t get it. And Natalie, you aren’t getting it at all. Maybe we libtards need to dumb down our protests a little, just for you.

      • Crawl back into your cave! When we want any B.S. we’ll go find a bull, NOT listen to you!!

      • Well there Jim Dandy, since brightness is generally measured by the amount of lumens it has. I would say without hesitation, Natalie has proven that when compared to a liberal, she could be classified as 1000 lumen bulb, which is over a thousand times brighter than your one candlepower will ever be. Shine on Natalie !

      • You realize you called yourself a libtard? Are you trying to prove your point, or mine?

  3. Thank God someone other than ‘Big Brother’ is watching the fort! Those who have hacked must be smacked down! My opinion is the Dems are behind all of this nightmare! Like I said, “What goes around, comes around!”

  4. As bad as it is, we know for sure who the bastardolas are now so we can their asses!

  5. Are we to assume that the federal government which has had decades of experience in codes, ciphers, encryptions and encryption gear and communications security (COMSEC) and which must be the major player with respect to internet security systems involving them, did not or does not foresee liabilities to the component parts of networks?
    Let’s not be completely naïve or make exceptions—even for the Democrat Party—! This is so much hype and nonsense. It may well be that Hillary Clinton was presumptuous to the extent of believing that clear text, unencrypted communications were a contemporary norm, but something does not smell quite right if the lessons of history have been taken to heart and we know that leadership in this field would preclude such blatant ignorance and outright stupidity. That there are no federal regulations and published guidelines for states to adhere to with respect to communications security is an implausible notion.
    Is anybody really falling for this nonsense?

  6. Michael Dennewitz

    These DUMBASSES just never give up, huh?? 😁😂🤣😃😄😅😆😉🤣

  7. If there’s nothing to the Russian Connection, one wonders WHY Donald Trump is trying so hard to weasel out of his contact with the Russians?

    • President Trump knows the old saying, ‘keep your friends close, and your enemies closer’. If you haven’t noticed recently we are on the brink of war with NK. Japan, South Korea, China and more Eastern countries need to help squash the situation. Economics play a large part and sanctions have been necessary. We need partnership to defuse NK. Unity in the USA is a must for the USA to gain respect. The lack of unity will eventually, bring us down,

    • Haven’t seen any weasle, well, except you. They have been hunting wiches for a year now and the entire story was manufactured by Podesta at a meeting right after the elections. It has been fake news from the start, manufactured especially for dimwits like you. Enjoy.

  8. Oh sure and the Donald Jr’s emails of his excitement at the opportunity to collude with the Russians to elect his dad just exposes the fake news above to be a lie.

  9. It appears that LeeRoy and Daisy Mae are still solid in their support of Comrade Donald Ivanovich. They probably will be, even when the comrade is led away in handcuffs.

  10. The government of this once “most powerful nation in the world” has shown itself to be corrupt and rotten! The mainstream media blames Donald Trump for everything, but never under any circumstances does it blame the liberal “First Black President” or any of his one-time staff, (including Hillary Clinton), for any of the problems we see today! This should show us that unless America turns back to its Judeo-Christian roots, it is finished! With the “collusion” of the ACLU and a number of other liberal groups, America has “officially” turned away from God, and the liberals fight any attempt by Trump or others to turn back to the Almighty! This once great nation will reap what it has sown! It has already started its fall! “Every nation divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.” (Matthew 12:25 NIV).

  11. William McNamara

    Ex-chairman Obama and his terrorist democrats tried to take over our election system by sowing the seeds of doubt in it’s trustworthiness. Ex-chairman Obama and his terrorist democrats were hoping the American people would beg them to “protect” our voting rights by having homeland security and the insane democrat party oversee elections “for our own good”. How wonderful.

  12. Just more Demonrat Libturd LIES!! NOT fake news just LIES and excuses!! Notice how Hitlary and her losers,I Mean Voters, always have a lot of excuses!!

  13. The Manure Stream Media and the Manure shoveling democRATS are trying to make Russia the culprit on everything. If Homeland Security did, in fact, publish this report, it was done by appointees of Obama or friends of the filthy muslims he put in place there.
    There doesn’t seem to be much security from people who follow the dirty book that COMMANDS them to kill or enslave all who do not convert to headbangers, does there ?

  14. When are people gonna wake up,and tell the people in congress to get on the stick and shut this witch hunt down ,and stop wasting our money on these clowns and their stupid money ,wastin shit! Mueller has wasted enough money on his revenge witch hunt !

    • We need to DRAIN THE SWAMP – Article V of the Constitution allows “WE THE PEOPLE” to go around Congress (when they get out of control) and change the parameters they work under!

      • So does the 2nd Amendment. …. Foreign AND DOMESTIC!!

        • Thank God Hillary was NOT elected or the 2nd Amendment would have been GONE! NOT so much REPEALED, but so constricted that no one would be able to buy a gun or maybe just not able to buy ammunition. Government put LEAD on the list of poisons to try and stop ammunition from being sold – Various Government Departments that have NO NEED for ammunition are buying up all the available inventory thus driving up prices for LEGAL gun holders.

          It’s TERRIBLE what happened in Las Vegas & Democrats IMMEDIATELY started the call for MORE Gun Control.

          The Supreme Court is also out of control. Example: Ruth Ginsburg recently said that Hillary lost the election because of SEXISM – This is the type of CRAP she brings to the Court

          Sorry, I went a little long.

  15. OK with this I am sure that Adam Schitfff is experiencing LOWER Intestinal Cramps and Mueller/Comey/Clinton feel the NEED to Hire More Clinton Lawyers … just to Prolong the COMEDY they have Created from their THEATER of the ABSURD!

  16. There is proof that the DNC wasn’t hacked…it was an internal download and walked out the front door. But for some reason journalist’s are scared to death to report it…???

  17. It doesn’t make sense, WHY would Russia prefer Trump over Hillary?, She and Obama were the ones who looked the other way, provided uranium and bowed down to Putin, NOT Trump, Liberals lie and lie, lets MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

  18. Why is it always Russia. I mean really, it is getting redundant. How about Italy, or France. If those are to dicey, how about Zaire. Please, spread the blame all around.

  19. Before any of you fall for these defense propaganda stories, just wait until the very thorough Mueller gets all he needs together and watch Trump leave his tower in handcuffs.

  20. That’s two states. How about all the others?

  21. Thank You Patriot News Daily. I didn’t believe it when I read and almost didn’t read it because there has been so much fake about the Russian connection it was a waste of time. I did however scan on of the reports & forgot about it. Now if they want something to report on that is true let these fake druggie reporters report on hilliareous clin-tons sale of our uranium to Russia!! Now that is a story and reason to investigate her deeply this time!!

  22. These ASSHOLES are going to keep on doing it as long Trump is in office.

  23. The Russians do not try to change any of our elections. The take who won and go from there.

  24. Another cover up by the DNC………and some rinos…………

  25. Donald Trump is my AMAZING PRESIDENT and like he promised, president for all AMERICANS!
    President Trump is the best president ever and the most brilliant leader in the history of the world! MAGA, greater than ever before! AMERICA and AMERICANS FIRST!

  26. California doesn’t need any Russian help to screw with voting they have MORE that enough voter fraud due to illegals voting using their unvetted “drivers licenses as ID’s. Motor voter was created by the democrats solely for the purpose of registering everybody, legal and otherwise. M.V. should be abolished since it has never required a valid birth certificate or any other way to prove the person is a legal citizen.

  27. There are two simple solutions to stop foreign hacking our voting machines, and domestic voter fraud. Lets start w/the EZ one….
    1. Foreign Hackers- throw the computerized machines away,and go 100% PAPER BALLOT. They can’t hack that.
    2. Voter Fraud- Lets make the Election Supervisor and Poll Workets libel for any discrepancy. Here are some examples:
    A. If a bunch of dead people are still active voters, and vote. The Supervisor of Elections should be held accountable for not cross checking voting records with death records. The penalty for any violation the Election Supervisor makes 3-5 years in prison and a $5,000 fine to be paid before release, or serve another 3 years.
    B. If the Pool Workers violate the law.
    Lets say only 350 people can vote in that precinct, and there are 500 ballots in the box. The Poll Worker let extra people vote. The penalty should be 5-8 years in prison and a $10,000 fine to be paid prior to release, or do 3 more years.
    If we make individuals accountable for illegal actions, they might think twice about cheating………

  28. Is anyone taking notice that the Majority of the population are still with Trump? Just look at some of the polling being done by Conservative News outlets. You won’t hear it on the Lamestream & Driveby Media. No, unless you read Conservative and Tea Party News & Surveys you won’t hear THAT. Libs just can’t get over that Killary was a Loser Again.

    • Is, stupid. The word population is clearly singular.

      Do you need Bill Clinton to teach you what the useage of is is?

      (Who’s the sorta’ female-looking man in the photo with you?)

      • Who is stupid now Chi or whoever That is my husband of 61 years. Maybe you are crossed eyed and was looking at me. I am the one with the hat on.

  29. I love way so many people making themselves look like stupid azzes, trying take Trump down,, Next ……Lol

  30. Anyone who still believes the grossly misnamed “mainstream media” is probably a good candidate for the “Want to buy a nice bridge?” scam. I would not allow a television in my house at this point, since nearly all of the programming is studded with false narratives and liberal propaganda. This includes nearly all of the “entertainment” shows and even a lot of information networks like The Weather Channel or Discovery. Liberals are the sole owners of racism, hate speech and fascist violence today and they spew their product out in large waves.

  31. Don’t you clowns get tired of putting out your phony “fake news.” The only ones dumb enough to believe you is Chump and his Uneducated minions. The Nazi won’t be around much longer anyway, Comrade!!!!

  32. You’ve got to step outside the box, think outside the box and view the big picture. The one party apparatus which operates out of the Capitol Hill Country Club & Bathhouse – comprised of Wall Street Democrats and their RINO accomplices in crime – is engaging in a major diversionary tactic and disinformation campaign in the entire Russia collusion hoax & fraud. These one party types are buying time and serving as effective cover for their handlers – the globalist/banker/pedophile power elites who operate behind the scenes and who pull the strings. So very much is at stake for these pedophile power elites – trillions and trillions of ill-gotten U.S. dollars, the ongoing promotion of a twisted and warped personal psychology, the sustenance of a more than questionable “life” style. NOW is the reader beginning to Get The Message? NOW is the reader piecing the puzzle together? “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” The nation’s vital public business remains woefully incomplete. Meanwhile, the pedophile power elites are laughing all the way to the bank.

  33. Yikes, for a blog that calls itself patriotic, you are awfully cavalier about summarily dismissing DHS’s report of attempts, at least, to hack our voting systems. I would think that if you are so unconcerned, you would at least take it seriously, confident enough in the security of our systems to let the investigation run its course without having to ridicule it. Why are you righties so pro-Russia?

    FYI, the Deibold voting machines still in use in some swing states use a regular Windows operating system and upload voting results to the tally using an everyday FTP code, the same tools you, your kid, or any other webmaster uses to get into their website to make changes. All a hacker has to do is find the right server and enter a single password to be able to change the vote tallies any way they like it erase them altogether, leaving almost no trace of evidence of having done it. A Russian hacker could simply flip the tallies in favor of their pick—the Russians backed Trump last year—and win a close race within the system’s reasonable margin for error. Voila! Trump wins the squeakers.

    Guess what. Last year, Trump won the squeakers where Republican gerrymandering had skewed Electoral College representation away from the popular vote. Hillary won the national popular takky by 3 million votes, but lost the swing state squeakers where—guess what again—they use Deibold voting systems and no paper trail of votes whatsoever. Without any remaining question, the Russian PR campaign on Trump’s behalf happened. The simplicity of reversing vote tallies alone makes it worth looking there, as well.

    It isn’t Dems, and it sure as hell isn’t DHS, who’s obfuscating. It’s you, and you do it to confuse Trump supporters who buy your drivel because you claim to be patriotic. If you were really patriotic, you would be insensed at the slightest hint of election tampering, and our intel services have found Russian footprints all over the place.

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    jim dandy, soros troll…typical

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