In separate interviews on Sunday morning, both former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and current Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani had the same message for Special Counsel Robert Mueller: If you try to subpoena the president to testify, you’re gonna have a court case on your hands. Neither Giuliani nor Lewandowski believes that Mueller has the authority to compel Trump to testify before the grand jury, and their concurrent arguments makes us think that this is something the Trump team believes is coming down the pike.
On Fox News Sunday, Lewandowski said that Trump’s legal team was just waiting for Mueller to throw a subpoena down on the table. “They will take it to court,” he said, “and I believe the court’s going to be on the president’s side on this.”
That said, Lewandowski confirmed that President Trump was still willing to sit down for an interview with the special counsel. The legal team, however, wants to make sure he isn’t walking into a perjury trap – an expansive interview covering minute details for hours on end, simply in an effort to catch Trump in some kind of procedural, trivial lie.
Over on ABC, Giuliani said it outright: “If Mueller tries to subpoena us, we’re going to court.”
Both men were speaking in light of a letter that Trump’s legal team sent to Mueller in January – a letter that leaked to The New York Times this weekend.
“It remains our position that the President’s actions here, by virtue of his position as the chief law enforcement officer, could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction because that would amount to him obstructing himself, and that he could if he wished, terminate the inquiry, or even exercise his power to pardon if he so desired,” reads the letter.
From all fronts, it’s clear that Trump now has a legal and advisory team willing to play hardball with Mueller, and that’s exactly what the president needs right now. With everything that has come out about this case over the last three months, only a partisan fool would recommend that Trump treat this investigation with any shred of respect. The mainstream media can cry foul all they want, but this is no longer about the “rule of law.” The stewards of the law are using it for their own political purposes, and that means Trump may disregard their efforts with impunity.
The mere fact that Mueller still has a job means that Trump is determined to give him every last benefit of the doubt. We’ll see how long that benevolence lasts.